A Fairly Conservative Jim Jones as National Security Advisor

by: Matt Stoller

Tue Dec 02, 2008 at 01:43


A few months ago at an event for a group of youngish Democrats in DC, I ran into one of General Jim Jones's staffers at the US Chamber of Commerce.  It's odd to find a Democrat at the US Chamber of Commerce, since that is one of the most partisan and ideologically conservative groups in the country.  We had a nice chat, and he essentially led me on to believe that Jones was heading up the Chamber of Commerce's Institute for 21st Century Energy to make some money after his time in the military.  I don't know how much stock to put in this conversation, but it's quite common for generals to make money after leaving the military, and I wouldn't be surprised if Jones just didn't know or care that he was working for a hardcore conservative group.  Military leaders respect industry leaders, and vice versa.

Anyway, this conversation became relevant recently because Jones is going to be Obama's National Security Advisor, and he'll place special emphasis on energy security.  I have some background in the politics of climate change, so I spent time on the plane today reading through the recommendations of his energy center to get a sense of this man's priorities and thought processes.  While I don't know him or how he works, after reading Jones's transition plan I have come to share the Center for American Progress's Brad Johnson's hope that Obama is setting energy policy and Jones is on the periphery of any policy formulation role.

Matt Stoller :: A Fairly Conservative Jim Jones as National Security Advisor

Based on this policy document, it's clear that Jones is not only not a progressive, but stands in clear opposition to the need to reconceptualize how our society uses and distributes energy.  Dealing with climate change is not about switching gas powered cars for battery operated Teslas, it's about changing from a mindset where consuming resources at an ever increasing rate is seen as a virtue to a mindset that focuses on community, sustainability, and ruthless cooperation to ward off the greatest threat humanity has ever seen.  

Jones diagnoses the energy problem within the context of national security and business interests, and in doing so, he's pretty reasonable.  He discusses the economic costs of energy shocks, energy poverty, and resource nationalism, but he is essentially as conservative as it is possible to be on the substance without outright denying global warming.  For instance, he argues that "whenever government tries to pick winners and losers, whether through burdensome regulations, central planning, or open-ended subsidies, it fails, and taxpayers and consumers pay the price."  But he also argues that the US should commit to and expand clean coal and nuclear energy with huge Federal subsidies, while eventually phasing out renewable energy tax credits after twelve years.

It's pretty dishonest to argue for specific energy technologies, including a fund controlled by fossil-based utilities with taxpayer capital, while arguing that the government shouldn't pick winners and losers, but it's also standard DC fare.  In keeping with this tilt, Jones argues that "climate policies must not provide a revenue windfall to the government", suggesting that carbon taxes are off the table, and that national climate policy should be contingent on an international agreement.  For good measure, Jones also thinks the Clean Air Act should not regulate carbon, and that Federal standards should preempt state standards.  I'm not sure if he means that California's greenhouse gas laws would be invalidated, but that's what Bush and the US Chamber of Commerce were trying to get done, so I wouldn't be surprised.

All in all, this is what CAP's Brad Johnson describes as a rehash Bush's policy of "Don't just sit there, do nothing."  Considering Jones's portfolio is on the national security front, and that he wants to focus on energy, this conservative ideological tilt translated into policy is something to note.  Whether Jones was simply operating at the behest of the people paying his bills, whether he's going to take clear orders from Obama, and what the ultimate policies are going to be, are unknowable.  Jones's positions on energy are to the right of Obama's, but they are fairly mainstream within the cross-section of DC in both parties that rejects denying climate change outright but wants to find a solution to the problem that involves keeping the same people in charge who got us into the mess in the first place.


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Hmmm (0.00 / 0)
What's the problem with nuclear energy?  I really think we need to get over this paranoia that sub-weapons grade nuclear reactors are somehow more dangerous than pollution.  Other than that, I agree that Jones's views are problematic.

Nuclear (4.00 / 4)
Historically, I'm mostly "pro nuclear" as well, but you've got to admit nuclear waste is a problem.  These days, there are so many practical ideas out there that consume few resources and produce no direct byproducts it seems the nuclear thing should be considered obsolete by this point.

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no problem (0.00 / 0)
I'm technology agnostic.  Nowhere did I write that nuclear power is inherently bad.

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Subsidies and time (4.00 / 2)
The other big problems with nuclear power are the massive subsidies, especially in the forms of government insurance, to get it to be competitive, and worse from a climate change perspective the very long lead time to get plants built. Essentially a strategy that puts a lot of emphasis on nuclear power is a way of punting the issue down the line, and if anything changes (we realize more urgent action is needed, the power plant construction deals fall apart, etc) we've just wasted another several years.

I'm not opposed to having some nuclear plants as part of a solution, but that has to be a complementary piece to renewables and efficiency, not the main plan.


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That, and the acquisition of uranium (4.00 / 1)
Which comes from decimating hillsides or sponsoring violence in the Congo.

And nuclear waste, guys.  Nuclear waste.


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The problem (4.00 / 1)
is with government subsidies for nuclear while phasing out subsidies for renewables. There's a decent argument that government should not be in the business of picking winners and losers - but if that argument is followed then nuclear shouldn't be getting subsidies that other energy sectors aren't getting.

The better argument is that government should be subsidizing start-up technologies to give them a fighting chance against established business-as-usual. Without that initial subsidy, the market can operate excruciatingly slowly to figure out which technology provides the best cost-benefit balance. That's basically what happened with the US car industry: government subsidies for post-internal combustion transportation weren't big enough, disincentives for gas-guzzlers weren't big enough, and there were in fact government incentives for SUVs, so the market kept rewarding car makers for continuing business as usual - until suddenly business as usual fell off a cliff.

Specific subsidies to nuclear -- an established technology whose failure to take off basically stems from an unfavorable cost-benefit balance -- are counterproductive. If nuclear will be competitive in a post-carbon economy, then government disincentives to carbon-based energy and general subsidies to start up non-carbon power plants are all that is really necessary to let the market figure out what the best mix of energy sources for the new economy will be. Specific subsidies to nuclear will prevent the market from realizing that something else is more efficient - say, a solar panel on every roof and in every window.


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To bad on energy (0.00 / 0)
When I first heard the connection between Jim Jones and energy, I had hoped it was a good thing.

Jim Jones worries me a lot more than Bob Gates, (4.00 / 3)
because I see the obvious political utility in having Bob Gates oversee your Iraq withdrawal, but I don't see any obvious margin at all for having a non-famous guy who endorsed McCain be your NSA.

I don't know how much direction you actually take from your readers, but if you could dig around on Jim Jones a little more, I'd be fascinated.  Gates and Hillary have been talked to death, but I haven't heard much of anything about Jones.  The Jenin angle has been reported a bit, and I'd heard a sentence or two on the energy angle.  Not the Chamber of Commerce part though.


Incidentally, I wouldn't be surprised if the truth was just a vulgar transaction: (4.00 / 3)
Wherein Jones lends his name to some trashy document written by a 26-year-old Chicago grad, in exchange for a pile of cash.  That transaction would work out well enough for both parties, and would surprise me less than Jones having actually done meaningful, 40-hours work for the Chamber of Commerce after his retirement.  It's also what your buddy at the ice cream social said, for whatever that may be worth, good or ill.

It's pretty discouraging to appoint someone who would lend his name to Chamber trash for lucre as NSA; even more discouraging to appoint someone who actually believes that dreck.  I think the former is probably as or more likely than the latter, but I'm not really in a position to know.  Again, I think it'd be rad if you could find out.


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Thank you for pointing this out (4.00 / 1)
There is a disturbing trend, even among potential allies, to position the goal of energy policy as Energy Independence instead of addressing the Global Climate Crisis.

We are out of time for solutions that do not address CO2 reductions first and foremost. Our national security is threatened more by global instability due to global climate change than it is by interdependence with other countries due to energy sources.

Also, the solutions by the "energy independence" crowd are rarely designed to do anything other than extend the status quo (drill here, drill now). Addressing C02 reduction will actually do more for energy independence than more exploration and drilling.

Finally, after all of their money dumps in W.Va. elections, I don't trust the U.S. Chamber of Commerce one iota. I don't care if Jones was "just earning a paycheck," he didn't do his due diligence if he has any progressive leanings what-so-ever.

They call me Clem, Clem Guttata. Come visit wild, wonderful West Virginia Blue


An actual conservative would be a change in the right direction (0.00 / 0)
A humble foreign policy; no nation building...

How does one deal with failed states (0.00 / 0)
if not through some form of nation building?

I completely disagree that humility is, in any way, representative of a conservative world view.  Hubristic nation-building was and is the theme put forth by the PNAC. While "actual conservatives" will simply turn a blind eye to the failed states, until they can find an excuse to bomb them or invade, that is.

"It sounds wrong...
     ...but its right."


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