Why Was Eric Holder Nominated for AG Yesterday?

by: tremayne

Tue Dec 02, 2008 at 11:00


This is not a post about the relative merits of Eric Holder for the position of Attorney General. Nor is it about the ideological makeup of the administration officials Barack Obama introduced yesterday (parenthetically, while the group lacks in progressive leanings they are at least a diverse bunch, 3 of 6 female and 2 of 6 African American).

As I watched Obama unveil his national security team a jingle from childhood went through my mind:

"One of these things is not like the others,
One of these things just doesn't belong,
Can you tell which thing is not like the others
By the time I finish my song?"

The one that didn't belong was Eric Holder. I'll explain below.

tremayne :: Why Was Eric Holder Nominated for AG Yesterday?

Of course you could argue that maybe Bob Gates is the one that didn't belong or maybe Jim Jones and those points would be perfectly valid. But my point is different and it's this: the Attorney General, the head of the Department of Justice, should not be lumped together with "national security." Since when is national security the right label for what AGs do? 

Since December 1, 2008 apparently and I think the symbolism in that is disturbing. Yes, the Justice Department is involved in counterterrorism and has been embroiled in the question of what to do with "enemy combatants." But the department should not be viewed as one more tool of an administration's foreign policy. Here's the defense of this approach from Marc Ambinder:

Announcing, at once, an  attorney general, the homeland security chief, Obama's defense chief, his chief diplomat, his chief negotiator and his chief adviser sends the message that Obama's conception of national security includes the need to defend against terror attacks at home and to devise a sensible mechanism to detain and punish those who attack us. More prosaically, Obama has chosen to render the foreign policy decision making mechanism as a table, over which people will disagree to the point of consensus.

The Justice Department has intersections with every cabinet-level agency in the administration. It is no more one cog in the national security apparatus than it is one part of the Department of Commerce or any other grouping. Obama is sending a signal, intended or not, as to what he sees as the primary role of the AG.

I think it is unprecedented but it is hard to research prior to the last two administrations. George Bush nominated John Ashcroft for AG on the same day he nominated Christie Whitman to head the EPA. Bill Clinton nominated Zoe Baird for AG on the same day he announced his nominations for Secretaries of Agriculture, Interior and Transportation as well as Surgeon General and United States Trade Representative.

At one time the AG's office was seen as primarily a domestic agency like those above. Apparently in a post-9/11 world the Justice Department is more rightly seen as part of the national security apparatus. The Bush administration made this clear when they installed Bush minion Alberto Gonzalez to the job and apparently the subjugation of the AG's office is to continue.

I don't like it. My preference would be for an independent Justice Department which would have been better symbolized by making the announcement on its own day.


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I agree. (4.00 / 2)
I wondered about this grouping too.


I think you guys are reading way too much into this... (4.00 / 3)
Besides, given that the AG is closely tied in with the FBI and other Law Enforcement AND the AG is supposed to be the nations "top cop" AND the fact that the FBI and law enforcement for better or worse have become a part of National Security in trying to stop terrorist threats domestically as well as domestic terrorists... It does make sense.  

Either way, while it does seem a little puzzling, I am doubtful of anything to worry about here.   The Justice department has changed over the last 8 years and I think this is just more reflective of the role Justice carries in the current enviroment.


I was under the impression (4.00 / 6)
That Obama's take was that terrorism was a law enforcement issue, and saw the AG announcement in that light.

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Yes (0.00 / 0)
That was how I interpreted Holder's presence, as an acknowledgment that terrorism can be treated as crime.

Further, I think his presence could be interpreted as demonstrating concern over the protection of constitutional rights in terrorism cases.

But mostly, I think we're making too much of his presence.


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moreover (0.00 / 0)
That terrorism is a crime to be treated by the AG's office and not by the Department of Defense.

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DHS (0.00 / 0)
Protecting the US from terrorism falls under the purview of the DHS.

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ATF (0.00 / 0)
Though I suppose ATF could qualify as national security.

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Time for new tea leaves. (0.00 / 0)
Of course the Department of Justice is involved in many other things than terrorism. But they also announced the UN ambassador yesterday, and the United Nations is involved in many affairs unrelated to war and terrorism. They announced the Secretary of State, and the State Department is involved in affairs unrelated to terrorism as well. Who would say that Obama is trying to define USAID or the World Health Organization out of existence by combining these posts into one announcement?

All of the posts which were announced yesterday deal in some way or another with national security. Only half do so directly. I think you are reading too much into how they are rolling out the announcements. Personally I saw the inclusion of the top law enforcement official in the country as a sign that we are indeed to start treating terrorism as a law enforcement issue rather than something to abstractly "declare war on".


The UN ambassador is a foreign relations job any way you cut it, though (0.00 / 0)
The AG is not.  

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National Security (0.00 / 0)
They never claimed this was the "foreign relations" team.  This was the "national security" team.

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Signs (4.00 / 1)
Being the optimist, I was taking this as a sign that Obama planned to pursue terrorists more as criminals then soldiers.

I think it's a good thing (0.00 / 0)
As others have said, the idea that terrorism is in large part a law enforcement issue is something that progressives have been arguing for since 9/11/01. The AG's job is to prosecute criminals, which is what terrorists are. The notion that protecting the "homeland" against terrorism is a matter of fighting wars overseas is a profoundly Bushian idea, and while Obama has obviously not rejected this entirely, his acknowledgment of the law-enforcement element of terrorism is to my mind a positive development.  

Ambinder must think the country is stupid still. (0.00 / 0)
When almost all of Obama's heavier appointees are from the Right - that's a majority where I come from.  So, if you can  picture the lone and lean vegetarian sitting around a table with a herd of carnivores not coming out without a few body parts missing  -then U must be a member of the DLC.

Note that the one Progressive non-Clintonian of the pack, Susan Rice, was given the least influential job.
As a 'repesentative' of the US, you can tell how much the position is worth by asking yourself when was the last time you saw Khalilzad??    Khalilzad who?  He's been our current Ambassador for several years.

As to your early memories, I too was remined with this 'which is not like the other' game:

Security
President
Obamam
Trust
Clinton

Have fun with that one!

Nationalism is not the same thing as terrorism, and an adversary is not the same thing as an enemy.


"Clintonian" (4.00 / 2)
I must say, I'm getting kind of sick of the term "Clintonian".  This assumption that anyone who worked in the Clinton administration is just part of the Borg collective mind dominated by the Clinton queen Borg (or, whatever) really makes no sense at all.

Any Democrat who has worked in the federal government has either a congressional background or is "Clintonian", by this logic.

There are enough real criticisms to be made of the various appointments that I think we can do away with the imaginary ones.


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On Rice, (4.00 / 1)
I'm actually kind of excited about Rice, in conjunction with the upgrade of the position to 'cabinet-level' which functionally doesn't mean much but as I think Yglesias pointed out can be a signal of a presidents priorities and intentions. Perhaps we'll see some meaningful UN diplomacy and initiatives again.  

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File Under... (0.00 / 0)
"Look, I'm not a DFH." (sigh)

Holder had a huge challenge (0.00 / 0)
Bush did a lot of damage in the Justice Department.    A LOT of cleanup needs to take place.   I think Holder is up to the job.    I see no reason to think otherwise.  

His job is important enough that it merited its own announcement.  

At the same time, Holder has a bigger than normal scandal hanging over his head - his involvement in the Mark Rich pardon.   That should not matter - but it does.    Maybe Obama is trying to do a low key announcement on Holder.  







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