The Fake Liberal Ideological Gap

by: Chris Bowers

Wed Dec 03, 2008 at 13:00


Pew recently releases a much-discussed survey arguing that, despite massive partisan gains for Democrats, the ideological balance of the country has not shifted much. Their key piece of evidence is that the gap between the number of self-identified conservatives and self-identified liberals has remained, statistical noise aside, pretty much constant over the last ten years. This finding needs to be disputed, and to do so we need to start with its headline numbers. Specifically, ideological self-identification numbers are not an accurate means of determining the national ideological mood at any given time.

There are three main problems in using ideological self-identification numbers as a means of testing the national ideological mood: self-identification often does not mesh with either worldview or policy preference; the rise of the term "progressive" as a center-left ideological marker; and a "Liberal Bradley Effect," where the ideological gap between liberals and conservatives is far closer on Election Day than it every is in telephone polls. More detailed and comprehensive ideological surveys do in fact show a significant leftward drift in America that has accompanied the Democratic partisan gains.

Detail on this argument can be found in the extended entry.

Chris Bowers :: The Fake Liberal Ideological Gap
There are a lot more lefties and center-lefties in America than polls show. Here are three reasons why:

1. Self-identification does not mesh with policy preference
Ideological self-identification does not accurately place Americans into categories representing coherent worldviews. This is a point that the Pew survey itself makes, though it has received less attention than the topline numbers:

Still, ideological labels do not always predict opinions about key policy issues. For example, about half of Americans who describe their political views as conservative say that all (24%) or some (27%) of the tax cuts passed under George W. Bush should be repealed. More than four-in-ten conservatives (43%) say that abortion should be legal in some or all cases. On the other hand, nearly half of self-described liberals (49%) favor more offshore drilling for oil and gas in U.S. waters.

Just because someone describes him or herself as a liberal, moderate or a conservative, does not mean that person actually is a liberal, a moderate or a conservative. Data supports this conclusion as well. The long-term trends of the Harris poll shows that ideological self-identification has changed little since 1978, with the percentage of "conservative" self-identifiers remaining between 34%-38% in all but two of the last 30 years, and with the percentage of "liberal" self-identifiers remaining between 17%-20% in all but one year. However, political scientist James Stimson shows that despite this apparently static national ideological mood, the national inclination toward public policy has actually shifted dramatically and frequently during the same time period:


Although it is more expedient in terms of public polling to simply ask people if they are liberals, moderates or conservatives, a more accurate reading would involve a battery of questions about general worldviews and specific policy inclinations. For example, the more accurate ideological reading of the electorate in the 2008 exit poll came not from the ideological self-identification question, but instead from the following classic public vs. private sector question:

View of Government
Should do more: 51%
Should do less: 43%

Although it leaves out cultural issues, that is about as straightforward an ideological positioning question as one can possibly ask. The result revealed a slightly center-left nation, quite different from the ideological self-identification question.

2. The Rise of Progressives
The last ten years has witnessed a marked rise in the use of a different left and center-left ideological term in America: progressive. This rise has been so pronounced and widespread that "progressive" is now the most favorably viewed ideological term in America, surpassing both "moderate" and "conservative."

July 2007 Survey By Rasmussen Reports
Label Positive View Negative View Net Favorable
Progressive 35% 18% +17%
Moderate 29% 12% +17%
Conservative 32% 20% +12%
Liberal 20% 30% -10%

There are now two competing ideological labels for the center-left and left in America, liberal and progressive. The chic term, "progressive," is viewed far more favorably than "liberal," but it is not offered as a choice in public opinion surveys or exit polls. Given the enormous difference in favorability ratings, it isn't even remotely a stretch to argue that more people would identify as a "progressive" than as a "liberal" if the term were offered in public opinion surveys. The absence of "progressive" in such surveys thus creates a false sense of a national ideological advantage for conservatives, as being a "progressive" is viewed more favorably than being a "conservative."

3. The Liberal Bradley Effect
The third way ideological self-identification polling numbers skew toward conservatives is what I term the "Liberal Bradley Effect." In terms of ideological self-identification, the gap between liberals and conservatives is always much smaller in Election Day exit polls than it is in national telephone polls. This indicates that people might feel less social pressure to identify as either conservative or moderate on Election Day than they do over the phone and in the abstract.

For example, in 2000, the conservative posted a 9% advantage on liberal in the exit poll, despite holding a 20% advantage that year according to Pew and a 17% advantage that year in Harris. In 2004, the exit poll gap was 13%, even though it was 18% in both Pew in Harris. In 2006, the exit poll ideological gap was 12%, even though Harris pegged it at 18%. There are consistently more liberals, and fewer conservatives, on Election Day than in abstract telephone surveys. Given the negative public views of liberals noted in polling data above, it isn't a stretch to argue that this gap is the result of a "Liberal Bradley Effect," where many people do not want to admit they are liberal, and many others claim they are conservative, in order to maintain public appearances.

Conclusion
The direction of the national ideological shift was better described by a far more detailed survey undertaken by Pew two years ago. The survey, with topline results alone more than 100 pages in length and supported by more than twenty years of data, identified a leftward ideological drift in America:

Increased public support for the social safety net, signs of growing public concern about income inequality, and a diminished appetite for assertive national security policies have improved the political landscape for the Democrats as the 2008 presidential campaign gets underway.

At the same time, many of the key trends that nurtured the Republican resurgence in the mid-1990s have moderated, according to Pew's longitudinal measures of the public's basic political, social and economic values. The proportion of Americans who support traditional social values has edged downward since 1994, while the proportion of Americans expressing strong personal religious commitment also has declined modestly.

Pew will release another one of these detailed "core values" surveys early in 2009. At that point, we will be able to determine if this leftward drift has continued, accelerated, or reversed. Until that time, try to avoid looking at ideological self-identification numbers, as they are a particularly poor measurement of the national ideological mood.


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In the second paragraph: (0.00 / 0)
"self-identification often does mesh"

Looks like you left out the "not"


Liberal vs progressive (4.00 / 2)
Presently, "liberal" and "progressive" seem to be used more or less as synonyms. But if you've got two different words, shouldn't they have different meanings?

The conservative propaganda machine made "liberal" a dirty word in America; progressives might as well go along with using it as a pejorative term. That's especially the case since in Europe, "liberal" means pro-free market.

I think that from a progressive point of view, liberal should mean a false, conflicted, or lukewarm progressive. Liberals, unlike progressives, look down on people to the left of them, and try to avoid struggle against conservatives (better called "regressives") in the spirit of "compromise" and "bipartisanship".

Thus, for example, a liberal will take impeachment off the table when the president has committed high crimes and misdemeanors, but a progressive will not.


They already have different meanings (4.00 / 4)
Particularly when they apply to trade, as you point out.

Also, Liberal refers to being generally favorable to an expanding government presence in our lives.  Progressive, to my mind, refers to a re-calibration of the mission of government in our lives.


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Furthermore (0.00 / 0)
When you consider the stability of the L v C numbers during the period covered by the Harris series, most would agree that the period of the late 70's into the 80's was the defining period of conservative ascent, as evidenced by huge landslide victories by Reagan and the enactment of sweeping conservative polies, yet the L v C numbers hardly moved during this period.  If the L v C numbers didn't reflect that shift, why in the world would they be evidence for no shift now?  


Labels (4.00 / 3)
You are right about labels. Another Pew survey found that 30% of "atheists" believed in God!

People use terms without understanding what they imply. That's why someone earning $200K can call themselves middle class.

I think there are really two basic divisions in society. On one side you have the basically authoritarian view of social structures. This means a belief in top down organizations and the "strong father" attitude towards decision making.

On the other you have the more communal and deliberative view of social organization. Everything should be debated and the best social policies should emerge from the process.

Notice that the plutocrats have a vested interest in promoting the first view and do so through a variety of propaganda outlets and bribing of politicians. Since they have most of the money they are also more successful in getting their viewpoint disseminated.

What specific policy positions are at any given time changes. At one time it may "liberal" to support trade barriers, while at another it may be "conservative". That's why asking about policy questions only works if you know what the position of the two sides is at that moment.

During inflection points such as at the present, neither side is sure of what position to take on various issues and the general population reflects the confusion.

It seems likely that the US will get poorer relative to the rest of the world and lose its absolute power in military matters. The question then becomes how to share the shrinking pie. At that point personal interests come to the fore and ideology goes out the window when your personal livelihood is at stake.

Government could be leading, but it is still in reaction mode. Obama isn't proposing anything except patchwork fixes that have all been discussed before. New ideas are hard to come up with and frightening to those enjoying the status quo when they do emerge.  

Policies not Politics


Paraphrased: Many liberals think they're moderate or conservative (4.00 / 1)
aka: Many self-described moderates and conservatives have liberal values.

Years ago (4.00 / 2)
on DKOS A Gilas Girl argued, persuasively I thought, that as many woman held feminist views but rejected identifying as feminists, so many held liberal views but rejected idenifying as liberals.  

For many, liberal has become a prejoritive term that  distorts the underlying views of the electorate.    


Ideology (0.00 / 0)
My own sense of change in the electorate is that the past 8 years has loosened the grip of any notion that "I am the master of my fate."

The facts of life are clear.  

My portfolio isn't a matter of my fate.  I'm connected, obviously and painfully.  Katrina wasn't a matter of personal fate.  Iraq, well.....I could argue that both ways....but when you think there are weapons of mass destruction, that affect the psyche after 9/11.

I think the hard-core conservative idea of "leave me alone" has been shook down to the roots.

However, there's still a vast gap between individualism and socialism.

So, more will be revealed about where the "common voter" lands.

I'm an avowed "nothing."

I'll take each proposal, idea, and action on its own merit.  I vow to keep an open mind without falling into ideological idiocy.

I think polls about these issues always come up short.  They are too unsophisticated.

But in the end, trends matter the most.


People should remember this (4.00 / 2)
next time someone writes a hectoring article or blog post and insists that we eschew the term "progressive" and embrace "liberal" because we should be proud of who we are.

It's a brand name. If one brand name is very appealing to people, another not so much, you use the former. "Ayds" candy should have just renamed their product; instead they went out of business.


Here's what I think you're missing (0.00 / 0)
Yes, the substance of people's policy preferences (such as they are) don't necessarily match the labels they attach to them.  And yet, labels remain important.  Labels collect emotional tinge more so than policy positions.  To the extent that being "conservative" is seen as a good thing and being "liberal" as a bad thing, Republicans have a built in advantage in campaigns.  Such as:

REPUB: He's a liberal!

DEMOC: Actually, I'm a progressive.

REPUB: Same thing -- you just won't admit it.

DEMOC: No, no, they're different in, um, the following seventeen subtle ways....

Far from running away from a "failed brand" and thinking that calling ourselves "progressive" solves anything, we should be rehabilitating "liberal."  (By the way: anyone remember Hillary saying during the campaign that she wasn't a liberal but a progressive?  Need the argument against any fixed superior meaning of the latter term be made beyond that?)  There's no shortcut to lasting success without doing so; what was done to "liberal" (and, before that, to "socialist") can be done to "progressive" as well.

Noting how the word "liberal" has been unfairly maligned as part of three decades of Republican flim-flam sales has to be an essential part of our pitch to voters, who should be angry at how badly and brazenly they were bamboozled.  "Yeah, we're liberal, and here's what that means" is a good pitch that will only get better after successful health care reform.

In the meantime, the persistence of this gap is significant because it shows the difficulty that we will continue to have in campaigning until and unless public perceptions shift.  Yes, the public may agree with us (or be willing to give us a shot) when it comes to policy, but the public's main role is not to pass judgment on policies but on people -- people who appear to them with labels.


It Appears Your Views Have Progressed (0.00 / 0)
I remember back in your MYDD days, you wrote a series of articles about how it was necessary to improve the liberal brand name in order for the Democrats to win presidential elections, or at least improve the liberal brand in enough swing states to tip enough electoral votes to Democrats.  If I remember correctly, the analysis was based on liberal self-identification in each state and how well Kerry or Bush ran in each state.  The analysis showed that where self-identifying liberals were below a certain threshold in a state, Kerry lost the state.

Man, that was a long time ago.  I might have forgotten the exact point of those posts and/or the exact analytical methodology employed.  Unfortunately, there do not appear to be any Chris Bowers articles left on Mydd, at least that I could find.  So I can't check to be sure.  In any event, I agree with the OpenLeft Bowers, who says we should look at other measurements and polling data to determine how far left the mood of the country, not just the self-identifying liberal metric.  That MyDD Bowers, who was that guy anyway?


It is a MISlabelling problem (0.00 / 0)
this clinched it for me.  When I was in Conn working for lamont in th eprimary, a nurse I was canvassing said this to me.

"I called myself a conservative, until I took some quiz and then I found out I was really a liberal"  So she realized she ahd to vote for Lamont and get her family to vote for Lamont.

It is a labelling problem.  These surveys should let people pick positions and then at the end and after they've verbally chosen their labe...tell them that these answers mean they are X even if X isn't what they called themselves.

"Incrementalism isn't a different path to the same place, it could be a different path to a different place"
Stoller


I agree, but what are the positions that define us? (0.00 / 0)
I remember Chris deriding an attempt at creating a progressive policy platform saying it was a waste of time, but I often find myself scratching my head when a liberal/progressive blogger gets on their high-horse for some cause that seems to me to be wrong or just plain silly.  Other than EFC and net neutrality I am not entire sure exactly what the bloggers here agree on as the policies they are fighting to see advanced.  

For instance I am all for universal health care, but from a policy position I think anything that isn't single-payer, government-run is just a recipe for disaster that could inspire a conservative-led backlash that puts us back decades. So is the moderate position universal health care since that seems to be agreed upon by the majority?  Is that also the liberal/progressive position?  Does that make me a DFH of health care policy?

Can we even agree on what should be the top priorities of progressives? I am all for a less bellicose foreign policy but are we supposed to be pushing for an entirely pacifist approach where our military never involves itself unless by act of Congress or should the President still have discretion for smaller scale operations and does such nuance even matter enough to be part of the label?  Should our energy plan include policies like regulated off-shore drilling that almost half of self-described liberals seem to approve of, or should any fossil fuels be verboten and is this something a self-identified progressive should focus on as part of their political identity?  While I am not looking for top-down marching orders it is kind of hard to discuss how people mislabel themselves based on policy if no one agrees on what policies define what labels.  


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