Where Did Who, What, When, Where, Why Go?

by: Matt Stoller

Sat Dec 06, 2008 at 12:04


There are a whole host of social habits available to elite journalists and political actors which marginalize liberal or dissident voices.  One of them is the use of anonymous sources to spread rumors about populist politicians.  Another example is using vague terms, such as 'bloggers', 'progressives', or 'some' as straw men instead of referring to specific people making specific political claims.  

All of us to some extent are guilty of generalizing, and generalizing is just a way of recognizing patterns and explaining them to the world.  But taken to an extreme, this is simply a political weapon used by dominant political actors.  George Bush uses straw men precisely in this manner, as Liz Cox Barrett noted.  Read this passage.

There is a certain attitude in the world, by some, that says that it's a waste of time to try to promote free societies in parts of the world... And I fully understand that that might rankle some, and be viewed by some as folly. I just strongly disagree with those who do not see the wisdom of trying to promote free societies around the world... I - I simply do not agree with those who either say overtly or believe that certain societies cannot be free. It's just not a part of my thinking... there is a attitude among some that certain people may never be free - they just don't long to be free or incapable of running an election. And I disagree with that. And the Afghan people, by going to the polls in the millions, proved - proved that this administration's faith in freedom to change peoples' habits is worthy.
Matt Stoller :: Where Did Who, What, When, Where, Why Go?
By refusing to actually named anyone who thinks that Afghans don't 'long to be free', Bush is belittling responsible critics, using a grade school debating trick to misrepresent the motives of those who don't agree with him, and preventing named parties from responding.  Bush will be gone soon, but the habits he practices are actually long practiced rituals of those in power.

This practice is widespread in DC, among establishment journalists.  I'll take two examples.  New York Times journalists Scott Shane and Mark Mazzetti blog about Dianne Feinstein's stance on torture, which generated conversation and reporting primarily from two prominent people who publish online.  

After some bloggers raised concerns that Senator Dianne Feinstein might be shifting her stance on the issue of American interrogation policy, the California Democrat has sought to clarify her views.

Actually, Glenn Greenwald and Spencer Ackerman raised concerns.  They have names, and their work can be cited (instead of stolen, as it often is).  Glenn Greenwald, a published author, an attorney specializing in the first amendment, and a consultant for the ACLU, wrote about it here.  Spencer Ackerman, a journalist who has traveled extensively in both Iraq and Afghanistan and worked at an important think tank, wrote about it here, in fact doing original research on the story as a journalist.

Because their names are withheld, readers can't know or read the original work, so their reading is devoid of context.  Moreover, they can't respond to this piece directly as objects of criticism, because Shane and Mazzetti aren't explicitly referencing them.  They are simply pesky unnamed and irresponsible bloggers asking for information, as likely to be Chris Crocker as a respected constitutional scholar or war correspondent.

This is not isolated to establishment journalists at nonpartisan centrist institutions; liberal journalist David Corn did something similar with 'progressives' in this piece for the Washington Post titled 'This Wasn't Quite the Change We Pictured' about what progressives think about Obama.  Corn would probably call himself a progressive, and to be fair, he does have one $250 donation listed in the FEC database to a pro-choice group in 1998, but in this piece, he's presenting himself as some sort of representative of all progressives.  The piece is peppered with references to what progressives think, ten unnamed assertions total.

For evidence with actual context, he cites a well-worn quote from Chris Bowers, a quote from twp anonymous labor officials, and quotes from a few anonymous Nation writers backing up his points.  Is this what progressives think?  We have no idea.  It could just be what David Corn thinks, with a carefully parsed selection of quotes.  And that's fine, if he weren't acting as the representative of progressives to readers of the Washington Post.  Without evidence that this piece is representative of a broader community, it's irresponsible for him to speak for anyone except himself. By making a claim to speak for a broader group without specifying the members of that group, Corn avoids having to actually show the work he might have done of talking to elected officials that might have a claim of speaking for a broader group and avoids showing that he actually examined and summarized a wide variety of opinions by a heterodox group of people.

The habits Shane, Corn, and Mazzetti use are cut from the same cloth as that of Bush, a vague set of allusion to an out group, without references to many members of that out group.  It's very annoying, gossipy, and insipid.  It is also a specific power play, often done inadvertently, so hopefully by calling attention to it we can gradually help whittle it down.


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The irony of implying that others are irresponsible (0.00 / 0)
while engaging in this sort of talk is rich.  Self-appointed progressive spokespersons need not defend their own beliefs if they are attributed to (anonymous) others . Bush is need not defend his actions or their consequences if to raise questions about these issues is to call into question freedom.  

Politics is the art of the possible, but that means you have to think about changing what is possible, not that you have to accept it in perpetuity.

Dubya has always been good at this .. (0.00 / 0)
But taken to an extreme, this is simply a political weapon used by dominant political actors.  George Bush uses straw men precisely in this manner, as Liz Cox Barrett noted.

That's why so many people(granted it is down to 20% now or so) still stick by him .. he takes glee in it too(meaning the straw men .. and calling those who oppose him un-American and all that) .. heck .. Republicans in general are good at it .. and speaking of reporters .. it's funny that a lot of them(and the papers they work for) don't realize that spitting in their readers face isn't doing anything to help their dying industry .. it's exactly why I could careless if the NY Times or the WaPo goes belly up .. it would suck for people like Will Bunch(aka Attytood) .. but having a guy like Man-on-Dog Santorum grace your editorial pages after he gets his ass kicked .. is just an insult to your readers


I believe David Corn is (0.00 / 0)
the token Pajamas Media progressive.

He was also a big apologist for Hitchens.

My blog  


According to Citizen Spook (0.00 / 0)
Corn speaks for the CIA.

Anonymous Sources (0.00 / 0)
Actually, I think the ability to gain any traction with this is a leftover from Watergate.

It's on its last leg.

As journalists abuse this, publish nonsense such as the latest about Palin, which turned about to be nonsense, then the credibility of journalists inches down.

It's been inching down for 5 years or longer.

Journalism is no longer respected by those who aren't slow on the uptake.

It's just PR, or if this is more palatable, boosterism.

Today, any article without an actual name?

I pay zip attention to, other than I note the journalist's name.


Great post. Surprised you didn't mention the other (4.00 / 1)
elephant in the room, namely, that "journalists" are actually in serious competition with "bloggers," a category for which some print journalists can barely conceal their disdain.

The fact is that some of the best "bloggers" are doing such good original reporting, and some "journalists" are missing such big stories that the distinction that many "journalists" so want to maintain is really silly.  The issue, after all, is who is doing good work.  I even wonder whether some "journalists" even understand that the growing irrelevance of newspapers is not because "bloggers" exist, but because they dig into important stories that are routinely ignored by major papers.  


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