Simple Dramas Packaged For Consumption

by: Chris Bowers

Tue Dec 09, 2008 at 17:53


As far as the whole "the left vs. Obama" narrative goes, this passage from Greg Sargent is on the money (emphasis mine):

The problem here is this bizarre need to decide one way or the other whether the entire left is or isn't irrevocably dismayed with the Obama presidency and whether it has or hasn't completely given up hope on it.

This is fairly straightforward. Some liberals have concerns about this or that particular appointment or this or that particular policy statement. They're voicing those concerns. That doesn't make "the left" as a whole unhappy with Obama's entire presidency. Those same liberals are happy about other things Obama's doing, and many of them are generally optimistic. Believe it or not, people can simultaneously entertain more than one opinion about Obama's evolving administration.

The problem here is the desire that the news orgs have to tell a simplistic story about those poor, sad, delusional lefties whose silly idealism blinded them to Obama's "pragmatism" and "centrism."

Developing a one-line description of what "the left" think about the entire Obama administration is a silly enterprise lacking any investigative seriousness. It is, instead, an attempt to create a simple drama pitting two not very well fleshed out characters ("the left" and "the Obama administration") against one another. Dozens of news organizations have sought to use me as one of those characters, recycling two quotes of mine from three weeks ago as somehow representative of a vast anti-Obama uprising among foolish, idealist, hard-left bloggers.

Of course, not only is such a narrative too simplistic in its depiction of "the left," which is a vast and diverse institution, it isn't even an accurate portrayal of me. I, like "the left," think a lot of different things about "the Obama transition." Further, the Obama transition, like "the left," is a vast an ongoing process that cannot be accurately described in a single sentence. There are many constituent parts of the Obama transition, which is in the process of hiring 8,000 people. There are many internal debates within the transition, which is not a monolithic reflection of the inside of Obama's mind. There are debates inside and outside the Obama campaign. Not only is that a good thing, but those debates also tend to be over specific appointments and policies, rather than vagaries about "the left" or "pragmatism."

I don't know why so many news organizations are struggling to pay their bills these days, but I can't imagine that using people to fit into a simplistic, pre-established narrative about something that is actually complex--and very important--is helping that much. Granted, my little media outlet is far smaller and generates far less revenue than most, so perhaps I don't have the secret to media profitability. However, I think news consumers are better informed and smarter than they are often given credit for being by news producers. This belief comes from having to deal directly with many of the people who consume my website on a daily basis. If you write something that is inaccurate, then some of them will know it is inaccurate, and tell you right away, every single time you do it. Although there are exceptions, devolving into the simplistic is often the same as devolving into the inaccurate, and it might be turning off a lot of consumers who now have the ability to consume news elsewhere.

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True that (4.00 / 1)
Over-simplification is inaccuracy. Fair comment.

Amend that to my earlier comment today about excessive qualification of comments diffusing clear communication and understanding. Reporters have to find a balance and not oversimplify.


Dear God please make this discussion stop (4.00 / 1)


If you hate it so much (4.00 / 3)
Why do you keep participating in it?

[ Parent ]
Chris... (4.00 / 3)
...that puts semblance in a difficult spot. I also think this entire discussion is a waste of time, and is taking the focus away from where it should be. And I, for one, do NOT weigh in on every thread to say that. But I think semblance is right, it would be awesome if "the left" could move beyond this and re-focus on the matters at hand. Rather than feeding the ridiculous big media hand-chosen narratives, force them, since they are paying attention, to consider the big ticket items that matter:

---the environment and global warming solutions and energy independence

---oversite for the billions that Paulson is looting from the bailout in plain site

---a real discussion on Afghanistan (kudos for pushing that yesterday, Chris, much appreciated)

---others as people are so moved, but those are the ones that have my attention most often, for instance.

So, yeah, I share semblance's frustration. I feel that in some way, whether unwittingly or no, this site, Greenwald, kos, etc., have played into a narrative.  Having now realized that, perhaps it is high time to stop the continuous "Dear Leader" posts (another from Sirota yesterday) and the self-referential wallowing in this, and return to the issues oriented stuff that has been the hallmark of what you do, Chris.  

I hope that gentle nudge is received as I intend it, in a spirit of calm suggestion, rather than being received as needless criticism or trolling. Because I am not.  


[ Parent ]
Yes, and no (0.00 / 0)
The yes part: IMSHO, Chris is undoubtedly right to focus both on a media critique, and on the attitude of authoritarian follwership that some sources are all too willing to instill in some Obama supporters; he's got to clear a space for alternative messages!

The no part: Membengal has it slightly wrong; it's not "billions" (with a "b") that Paulson is looting (no transparency; no accountability) but "trillions" (with a "t").  At least two, maybe three, and with a world GDP of $42 trillion, that's a lot of the world's money to be under the control of one man. That's a huge story, and while this C list blog [blush] has written hundreds of posts on it, many in near real time as the bailout was passed, the A list seems to have given the bailout very little attention. Yet, the sheer scale of the looting will constrain every program "the left" wants for years, and the Constitutional/governance issues are critical as well. Something's wrong with this picture, and OpenLeft is one place that could rectify the problem.  

I am in earnest -- I will not equivocate -- I will not excuse -- I will not retreat a single inch -- AND I WILL BE HEARD.  


[ Parent ]
thanks for the heads up... (0.00 / 0)
... I have bookmarked your site and will give it a thorough read. I wisk kos, Chris, the mydd gang, booman, et al would shine as much light on that issue as is possible. And, no, I have no problem with Obama shouldering a chunk of the blame for the continued lack of oversight. He needs to do more. Desperately.

[ Parent ]
Enjoy.... (0.00 / 0)
Or not ;-)

I am in earnest -- I will not equivocate -- I will not excuse -- I will not retreat a single inch -- AND I WILL BE HEARD.  

[ Parent ]
One Reason Newspapers Are In Trouble, Perhaps (4.00 / 3)
might be the insistence on such dumbed-down reportage.

If you think you're writing for dummies, and you dumb down your stories to write for them, sooner or later folks are going to start to notice.  They are not stupid, no matter what you may think.  They know they're being treated like 6-year olds, with fairy-tale narratives of simplistic black-and-white conflicts, and sooner or later they're simply bound to lose patience.

This shouldn't be hard to figure out.  Just look at prime-time TV, and look at the longest-running programs.  They are not one-dimensional dramas or comedies.  They infinitely-surprising cartoons like The Simpsons and gray-areas-are-us police procedurals like Law and Order.

"You know what they say -- those of us who fail history... doomed to repeat it in summer school." -- Buffy The Vampire Slayer, Season 6, Episode 3


That's why I read the sports page mostly (0.00 / 0)
Believe it or not, it's often the one section of the paper that doesn't treat its readers like idiots.

I'm sure there are examples of dumb sports columns, but at least in my hometown papers, their articles and analyses are usually smart, nuanced, and more than just a rehash of conventional wisdom.


[ Parent ]
Since when? (0.00 / 0)
They know they're being treated like 6-year olds, with fairy-tale narratives of simplistic black-and-white conflicts, and sooner or later they're simply bound to lose patience.

I find this implausible, since that would make them smarter than you and Sirota.

They infinitely-surprising cartoons like The Simpsons and gray-areas-are-us police procedurals like Law and Order.

Special Victims Unit would be a great name for this site.


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Bleh (0.00 / 0)
Newspapers  make money, or don't, based on their advertisers, not their readers.

Electronic advertising is cheaper and more effective and cheaper, so the advertisers ditch the newspapers.

If a majority of news consumers really gave a damn about having their intelligence respected, how do you explain the popularity of FOX and CNN?


"It sounds wrong...
     ...but its right."


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Believe It Or Not, Things Can Have Multiple Causes (0.00 / 0)
Newspapers have been losing readership for a long time now.  Dumbing down political coverage only exacerbates the other problems they have.

FOX and CNN aren't really that popular.  Far more people get local and regional news from their local and regional papers every day.

"You know what they say -- those of us who fail history... doomed to repeat it in summer school." -- Buffy The Vampire Slayer, Season 6, Episode 3


[ Parent ]
I take your point as to multiple reasons (0.00 / 0)
and am glad to have expanded the view beyond the single reason in your original comment:)

Presidential politics, cabinet appointments, and the issues being discussed in this thread are not local and/or regional issues, however.  

I'd venture to say that either FOX or CNN are more "popular" than any "national" paper such as WSJ, NYT, or USA Today, but even those giants are struggling to remain relevant in print form. They are succeeding on the web, but I don't see that such is due to less dumbing down in their web versions.

All this doesn't undercut the basic premise that many folks prefer a a simple drama as the narrative. Not because they are any less intelligent, but because they don't want to spent hours trying to understand every nuance that went into deciding that person X got appointed to position Y in Mr. O's administration.

Its the same kind of simplicity that drives the arguments  that republicans are insane, GWB is stoopid, and Cheney is evil. Those are elements of simple, dramatic narrative that doesn't delve into the intricacies of how these people (and unmentioned others) have made careers out of consolidating and controlling political, economic, and military power. But, perhaps I digress.

"It sounds wrong...
     ...but its right."


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Actually, Not (0.00 / 0)
I'd venture to say that either FOX or CNN are more "popular" than any "national" paper such as WSJ, NYT, or USA Today, but even those giants are struggling to remain relevant in print form. They are succeeding on the web, but I don't see that such is due to less dumbing down in their web versions.

Newspapers:


Rank Newspaper Circulation
1. USA Today (Arlington, Va.) 2,528,437
2. Wall Street Journal (New York, N.Y.) 2,058,342
3. Times (New York, N.Y.) 1,683,855
4. Times (Los Angeles) 1,231,318
5. Post (Washington, DC) 960,684

Cable News:

Financial crisis, presidential transition and Mumbai terrorist attacks helped boost ratings
By Marisa Guthrie -- Broadcasting & Cable, 12/3/2008 6:31:00 PM

....In total viewers, FNC averaged 1.27 million viewers for total day, a gain of 60% compared to the same period last year. CNN averaged 961,000 for a gain of 115% and MSNBC averaged 703,000 for a gain of 132%, compared to November 2007.

Just wait 'till next year!

"You know what they say -- those of us who fail history... doomed to repeat it in summer school." -- Buffy The Vampire Slayer, Season 6, Episode 3


[ Parent ]
They do it for (4.00 / 2)
the same reason that the perpetuated the Clinton vs. Obama "fight" for two months after it was de facto over.  They're too cynical/dim/lazy to do serious coverage of complex issues (no matter how much Serious News outlets like NPR or Politico claim they are doing serious coverage).

In fairness (0.00 / 0)
HillRod did a lot of perpetuating of her own.

[ Parent ]
It seems similar to a "With us or against us" debate (4.00 / 3)
I think it is possible for people to be for Obama, without completely accepting everything he does or says as manna from heaven.  Yet there is a core developing within the Obama supporters who seem to think that any critique of any aspect of Obama was over when he won the election.  That if you voted for him, your total and complete loyalty is a requisite to being a supporter.  Any criticism is answered by affixing a "The left" bumper sticker to your forehead, as if it constitutes a rejection of the comment.
I suppose this is to be expected to some degree, and I have seen less of this at this site than Huffington (for example),  but I do worry that it results in marginalizing dissent through the use of labels, makes Democrats appear less capable of handling criticism and divides what was a "big Tent" into two warring camps.  I don't think "the left" has assumed the mission statement of bringing down an Obama administration any more than criticizing the war in Iraq was designed to "help the terrorists."  
I just don't think the level of criticism the Obama camp has seen has been alarming enough to warrant the split, and it seems like its being inflated artificially, which smells a bit like triangulation.  It makes the Obama camp appear too thin skinned to accept any factions within it's ranks.  

Chris, your belief is different from most large news organizations (0.00 / 0)
"Having to deal directly with many of the people who consume my website on a daily basis" is not the same as large print and TV outlets that depend on economies of scale for their profitability. If they write something that is inaccurate, and someone who knows it is inaccurate tells them right away, they basically do not care one whit. I can't believe that as a practitioner of new media you don't understand this. The business model of mass media depends on simplistic narrative, which is why most news reporting in the MSM is devolving into entertainment and will continue to do so.

jeffbinnc's got it right here (4.00 / 2)
the business model rules.
any of us complaining about old media crafting simplistic narratives is like complaining that, after 15 years, your dog still barks at strangers. It didn't have to be that way--the dog could have been properly trained early on, but it wasn't. So now barking at strangers is just part of its nature.

In this case, building on the Goldwater foundation, the burgeoning conservative movement starting in 1980 actually trained the burgeoning network and cable news divisions to craft simplistic narratives by giving them simplistic narratives to report: low taxes, small government, USA is #1, if you disagree, you're immoral. These tenets are so clean and irreducible that none of them requires any further explanation to understand. So additional details become irrelevant. As we've read and discussed countless times in the past few years, "the Left" doesn't have anything comparable. We live in the reality-based world, which is complicated and messy. And we're committed to understanding it and working with it just as it is.

The thing is, like the conservative movement, the old media dog is dying. We need a new puppy to train, to not reflexively bark at strangers--to not reflexively simplify all things to meaningless binaries and platitudes. That's where you come in Chris, and Matt, Kos, Atrios, Digby, et al. You're the new media puppy. Don't bark at 'em. Just sic 'em.


[ Parent ]
As anyone who has spent more than a minute or so (4.00 / 1)
involved in leftist politics knows, the idea of some kind of monolithic left is absurd on its face.  Put three lefties in a room, and there'll be at least five opinions on any given subject.  Diversity of opinion is what DEFINES the left.

That said, the tactic of demonizing the left is as old as the hills, and has been a tactic used by both Republicans and Democrats alike.  The Republicans try to paint us lefties (and the moderate Democrats who are occasionally allied with us) as un-American commies. The Democrats seem to need to go through the ritual of periodically repudiating us (usually after they've stolen our good ideas) as a way to "prove" they are not the un-American commies the Republicans allege.  

Yawn, what else is new?

Soldiers are required to do their jobs when politicians fail to do theirs.


Racism, Misogyny And Homophobia Are Still Around, Too (0.00 / 0)
Just because evils are still with us doesn't mean they shouldn't be fought against.

"You know what they say -- those of us who fail history... doomed to repeat it in summer school." -- Buffy The Vampire Slayer, Season 6, Episode 3

[ Parent ]
Your reply kinda proves my point (0.00 / 0)
about diversity of opinion.

Personally, I wouldn't group "demonization of the left" with racism, misogyny and homophobia as far as evils to be fought against (at least, not where I would spend a whole lot of energy), but hey, that's my opinion...

Soldiers are required to do their jobs when politicians fail to do theirs.


[ Parent ]
That portrayal of the "Left" annoys me too (4.00 / 5)
You don't speak for me, and neither does Kos nor Sirota nor Jane Hamsher, etc.

I agree with you as much as I disagree with you, not on overall principles (or else I wouldn't engage here) but on policies, individuals and strategies. For instance, I think much of the "analysis" of Obama's picks on OpenLeft has been emotional and reactionary and somewhat one-sided. That's odd to me when it's so easy to make an argument FOR any of Obama's picks.

Take Gates, for instance. Gates offers continuity of military leadership at one of the most crucial moments of the Iraq War -- deploying troops out of the country. Doing this safely and without triggering an all out civil war among the Sunnis (who the U.S. has been arming and paying to help fight Al Qaeda) and the Shiites (who control the government and the armed forces) may require someone who knows the players and the terrain.

So, why not Gates, for two years, until the troops are home? That would seem like a reasonable argument, and yet it's rarely made here. In fact, Sirota might call this Dear Leaderism for not being critical of the pick.  This despite the fact that, all in all, Obama has demonstrated better judgment than many front pagers here.

Whatever happened to John Edwards for President Attorney General? Who knew that he had fathered an illegitimate child and had created a scam nonprofit agency to raise funds for his campaign. Not me.

Whatever happened to Chris Dodd for President, Senate Majority Leader? Who knew that Dodd would fight to reinstate Joe Lieberman as chair of HS&GA committee, and give Paulson carte blanche to spend $350 billion however he wanted? Now, I'm hoping someone primaries Dodd in 2010.

There were clues that Edwards and Dodd weren't the liberal lions everyone made them out to be, including Edwards' and Dodd's support for the Iraq War, and pro-deregulation and NAFTA votes. Those warts were ignored by lots of people. Now, however, if we ignore such foibles when they belong to Eric Holder or Hillary Clinton, we suffer from Dear Leaderism. (Sirota, was your support for Edwards, despite his hawkish votes, a case of Dear Leaderism or something else?)

The reality is this: None of us know how these selections will turn out, no selection is indicative of Obama shunning the left or veering center-right, and trusting Obama's judgment until he no longer deserves that trust isn't the end of democracy through Dear Leaderism.

Each appointment has strengths and weaknesses, and it's important to point those out. Champion their moments of progressivism and criticize their mistakes -- just to be sure they don't make them again. And it absolutely makes sense to promote candidates with progressive credentials. But let's not pretend that we know how these picks will turn out, that any pick would be a disaster or crowning victory for the progressive movement, or that we're speaking for anyone but ourselves.  


Examples should be weighted equally on both sides of the political spectrum if it's truly unpredictable (0.00 / 0)
Any examples in recent history of someone that seemed centrist or conservative turning out to be a liberal lion? No? Then the one-sided scepticism has been earned.

But I'm open to rethinking that if you can give me some examples. Maybe I'm just not used to noticing this kind of change agent.

I'm ambivalent about Gates. You make a good pragmatic argument that would probably win out with me over my ideological concern that Democrats give the impression that only Republicans can run the DOD.  


[ Parent ]
If You Remember (0.00 / 0)
I said nice things about Edwards, too, because he advanced more progressive proposals than Clinton or Obama on a variety of fronts.  But I didn't endorse him, precisely because there were lingering doubts reinforced by the still-limited nature of most of his better positions.

So, not a stranger here to nuanced judgments.

And neither is David.

Folks just make the totally unwarranted assumption that making strong arguments somehow means you can't hold nuanced views.  David has disproven this over and over and over again.

"You know what they say -- those of us who fail history... doomed to repeat it in summer school." -- Buffy The Vampire Slayer, Season 6, Episode 3


[ Parent ]
The problem is that some bloggers on this site have been feeding the narrative (4.00 / 2)
gleeful right-wing pundits, right-wing blogs, and part of the mainstream media have been running with on an almost daily basis. Those who see mostly progressive ideals in the plans and policy proposals Obama has publically announced and set into gear already are routinely mocked as suffering from "Dear Leaderism" by other bloggers on this site.   In this post from Nov. 24 you clearly make 3 central arguments (false ones, IMHO) which, reiterated in subsequent follow-up posts, have created the media narrative you seem now not to welcome:

http://www.openleft.com/showDi...

1.  ALL of Obama's appointments (up to Nov. 24th) are either centrists or rightists, making the cabinet appointments as a whole center-right.

I felt that was a false description, as several of the appointments have voting records or campaigned well to the left of Obama during the primaries (Hillary, Richardson) or should be viewed as for ideology for their specific roles chosen (i.e. Daschle is a very strong champion of universal health care implementation.)  

2. The conclusion drawn by the description of Obama's cabinet picks as center-right was that Obama's resulting policies would very likely ALSO be center-right and those who claim differently (more nuanced) are conspiracy theorists.  

One wonders what will become of the "Obmaa is a secret progressive" theories if and when Obama begins to implement center-right policy. Some of these conspiracy theorists will probably switch camps and start agitating for Obama to become more progressive. However, given the surprising staying power of these theories over the last year, it is also a safe bet that some progressives will argue that center-right administration and legislation are also part of a larger, secret plan to promote progressivism.
Then again, I could turn out to be wrong, and Obama will somehow use his center-right advisors to govern in a leftist manner. After all, the Bush administration started nationalizing entire industries a couple months ago. Many people, even those far to Obama's right, are being forced to unwillingly govern as socialists these days.

So, here you mock those who believe Obama's policies will go into the campaign-promised progressive direction as "conspiracy theorists," subscribing foolishly to the theory that Obama is a "secret progressive."  In fact, you predict that those currently subscribing to such theories will come around in due time to "switch camps."  Going even further, you state that some progressives would likely see expected wholesale implementation of center-right policies as a much larger "secret" plan to implement progressive policies.

3. You stated that if things turn out differently and we indeed get to see progressive policies implemented, you would be proven wrong, which obviously means that you expect a center-right direction as the most likely result.

This was not the only post to make such dire (for progressives) predictions, there are a lot more, and the common thread is this:  We can't possibly expect anything but center-right policies out of this administration, since Obama has only appointed center-rightists.  In fact, those of us who believe that Obama's policies may turn out progressive on the whole are "conspiracy theorists" who just can't see reality.  

Is it any wonder, then, that your opinions are quoted in the mainstream press as a strong opposition voice?  After all, you actually PREDICT a center-right direction of an Obama administration.  That you mockingly allow that you "might be proven wrong" on that and that somehow Obama will use his center-right advisors to govern from the left" underscores your position that that is unlikely to be the case.  

Constructive criticism is good, you can only push for change to the left when you actually PUSH, but what we have been seeing is different, more of a definite pre-judgement of what we should expect policy-wise based on the cabinet appointments.  That is where this place "jumped the shark" and thus became the most quoted opposition voice, IMHO.







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