Pay To Play, Vote To Play

by: Chris Bowers

Wed Dec 10, 2008 at 14:35


At the center of the Rod Blagojevich scandal is an allegation that he was putting a U.S. Senate seat up for sale. Here are some of the key quotes:

Illinois Gov. Rod Blagojevich told aides he had something "f-ing golden" - sole power to pick Barack Obama's Senate successor - to trade for a White House post or lucrative outside job for himself, and he sought to sell the seat to the highest bidder, federal prosecutors allege in a sweeping complaint against the Democratic governor.

The Senate seat "is a f--ing valuable thing, you just don't give it away for nothing," Blagojevich said, according to the complaint. He even threatened to name himself "unless I get something real good."

This is pretty bad, and Blagojevich needs to step down and face trial. Still, it needs to be remembered that the only reason Blagojevich seems to be in trouble is because he was selling the seat for money. If he was selling the seat for votes, personal power, or a committee chairmanship, he would probably have been fine. After all, over the past month, there are at least two high-profile instances of conservative Democrats selling their membership in the party for committee chairmanships. First, Lieberman managed to acquire a Senate chairmanship by threatening to vote with another party (emphasis mine, more in the extended entry):

Chris Bowers :: Pay To Play, Vote To Play
The tide turned in Lieberman's favor, sources say, after two events in recent weeks.  First, President-elect Obama told Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid that he wanted Lieberman to stay in the Democratic caucus. Later, in a meeting with Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid, Lieberman told him it would be "unacceptable" for him to give up his gavel. That was considered by some as a veiled threat that Lieberman would jump to caucus with Republicans if he was forced to give up the gavel.

Beyond Lieberman, three "Democratic" members of the New York State Senate are currently doing the same thing: demanding committee chairmanships and more power over legislative priorities in exchange for voting for a Democrat for Senate majority leader. Fortunately, in this case, a revolt by members of the Democratic Senate caucus is nixing the deal:

The expected Democratic control of the state Senate is now in jeopardy after a power-sharing deal blew up Wednesday.

Senate Democratic leader Malcolm Smith called off negotiations with three dissident Democrats who have threatened to side with a Republican for majority leader.

"We are suspending negotiations effective immediately," he said. "Otherwise, we would reduce our moral standing and longtime Senate Democratic commitment to reform and change."

Despite cutting a deal last week with the three that included reforms and leadership posts for them, Smith said he and his members would rather wait to take control of the Senate than cave to their further demands.

While it is not illegal to threaten to switch voting habits if certain demands are not met, it is just as unprincipled as selling a Senate seat for money. In both cases, power is for sale for its own sake, prior beliefs and values be damned. Lieberman was threatening to start voting with Republicans on a number of issues that he previously did not if he was not granted more power. The same appears to be the case for these three Senate Democrats in New York. Power trumps values. Like Blagojevich, they are all demanding certain amounts of power before they will support your ideas.

I'm not saying these sorts of threats should become illegal. Instead, I am arguing how these threats from conservative Democrats to flip parties are entirely unprincipled to nearly the same degree as Blagojevich. It is too bad Senate Democrats caved to Lieberman's threat to start caucusing with Republicans, because his threat was entirely power based. If Lieberman had switched parties and also started switching his voting habits because he wasn't granted more personal power, he is the one who would have looked like a completely unprincipled, power-hungry, valueless asshole, not Senate Democrats. After all, who looks better now: Blagojevich for demanding a payout, or Obama for refusing to play ball?

Obviously, don't sell elected offices, legislation, or appointments for money. However, don't sell them on threats to bolt to the other party, either. If you refuse to sell, and the person making those threats follows through, in the end you will look better, and the person making the threats will be out of a job before long.


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Yes! (4.00 / 1)
After disagreeing with you so often lately, I'm glad I can totally agree with something you've written. I had these same thoughts yesterday (about the 'trading' concept, not the specific examples you gave). But for the money, Blago did nothing that probably doesn't happen every day in politics. I thought it would be nice to somehow make even these non-money actions illegal...but I like your solution much better. Shame can be a great deterrent.  

Excellent post (0.00 / 0)
and excellent point Chris.  I may not have been happy with you regarding Obama's appointments but this is spot on and such questions should be asked of our elected officials that are supposed to be representing US.

"the only reason" Blago is in trouble? (0.00 / 0)
Uh, Chris, there are also the "pay-for-play" accusations, even though they re mostly based on hearsay and criminal witnesses who entered a bargain plea with the prosecution. And then there is the blackmailing of the Tribune holding company, which is proven by taped phone calls...

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Well (0.00 / 0)
"If you refuse to sell, and the person making those threats follows through, in the end you will look better, and the person making the threats will be out of a job before long."

That's awesome, but it isn't going to pay anyone's medical bills.

Look, this is really ridiculous. On the one hand, don't discount the idea that New York Democrats WANT to lose control of the state Senate. State government are inherently unpopular during tough time, because their budget requirements force them to raise taxes and cut popular spending. No one wants to be in control then, and that's why you see a lot of popular Democratic governors trying to get jobs with the Obama White House. Better to go out on top then get dragged down by the economy.

So far as Lieberman goes, I really continue to be amazed at how similar you and Markos are to the sensibilities of neocons. Everything is about the way it makes Democrats look, "setting examples," "principle," and everything else short of an actual cost-benefit analysis. Or any discussion of whether a chair is actually worth losing a vote on universal healthcare, EFCA, climate legislation, and so on. It's all about feelings and perception.


Yes, that's all it's about (4.00 / 1)
It had nothing to do with Lieberman's total lack of investigation of the Bush administration, Iraq spending waste, contractors, or Katrina during his time as chair. And those were only aspects of the fight that were written about several hundreds times on this and other websites.

So, it is all about "principle" and not cost-benefit analysis, as long as you ignore the cost-benefit analysis parts of the argument.


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Fair enough (0.00 / 0)
...but that's still a principle argument at best. It has no bearing whatsoever on the next 2-4 years.

One thing I haven't seen very many people point out is that expanded majority margins mean more committee seats for Democrats. What that means is that Democrats can stack the committee in such a way that it's not an 8-7 majority in which Lieberman could be a swing vote, and Democrats could still exert control irregardless of how Lieberman votes. In other words, the chair has little more than symbolic value for Lieberman. On the other hand, it's certainly not unlikely that his vote on the floor could be very important with a 58, or 59, seat majority, especially on votes like EFCA that are likely to meet the most united GOP resistance (yes I know I'm a comma monster). I think that, at the very least, you, Markos, and anyone else displeased by the Lieberman decision ought to lay out just exactly which parts of the agenda would be worth losing to stick it to Holy Joe.  


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Except that we'd need 60 (0.00 / 0)
That added advantage of committee seats isn't going to happen without 60 seats - Republicans have threatened to filibuster the organising resolutions if it does.

If we had 59, maybe it'd be worth keeping him. As it is, he isn't a road to 60 (and didn't look like he was at the time) so there's no benefit in the committees.

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Only reason? Not really. (0.00 / 0)
To me, at least, Blago is in trouble for even more serious crimes than trying to sell the Senate seat, which, as noted, is only an extension of political business as usual. Other charges against Blago include trying to extort Children's Hospital for a $50,000 "donation" in return for him releasing a grant, and trying to blackmail the Tribune into firing hostile staffers if they wanted the sale of the Cubs to have smooth sailing. These and other allegations of downright extortion, blackmail, and soliciting of bribes puts the Senate seat episode in a context of all-out corruption for money and take it out of the spectrum of trading favors and influence.

I agree with your take on the Dems' cave to Lieberman, but the argument doesn't need a blurring of the lines between horse-trading and indisputable crime. It shouldn't be necessary to invoke criminal behavior in order to make plain bad government a negative.


i have trouble getting outraged over this one (0.00 / 0)
he's a clumsy oaf - but is pretty much in the same league as the rest - i.e. a politician.  what i am relieved about is that this massive scandal, for the first time in years, involves no murder, torture, violence, mercenaries, other countries being destroyed, and the such.  

today, i feel like i can finally celebrate, because for all the principles it violates and all that, and for whcih punishment will surely be meted out swiftly, it's fucking hilarious and doesn't endanger the world as a whole. :)


So what is the relevant law? (0.00 / 0)
While it is not illegal to threaten to switch voting habits if certain demands are not met, it is just as unprincipled as selling a Senate seat for money.

I'm not saying these sorts of threats should become illegal.

So what is the relevant law?  Are only tangible things and money the basis for bribery, blackmail, etc?

Can I sell a Senate seat for a house?  Probably not, that is tangible.  How about services?  Say, sexual favors?  Mowing my lawn?  Isn't a vote a service?  Not in the same way as a sexual favor (but heh, maybe not all that different).

Really, just wondering where the line is ...legally...


Kennedy Name (0.00 / 0)
A parallel situation is trading the Kennedy name for a senate seat, while passing over many women who have worked hard, long years for New York.

Yes, the trading of seats for favors can easily become corrupt.


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