American Amnesia: The Cost of Accommodating The South

by: Paul Rosenberg

Sat Dec 27, 2008 at 12:27


In my diary The New Civil War--Could The Attack On The Auto Industry Really Be This Simple? I touched off a firestorm with what was, to me, a relatively inconsequential remark near the very end of the diary:
Paul Rosenberg :: American Amnesia: The Cost of Accommodating The South

I have always hated the South. Not the people. But the political system. It is meanspirited, hateful, anti-American, downright evil. I want to destroy it once and for all. And being the liberal I am, I would take great delight in killing them with kindness.


People were offended on three main accounts: First, they did not believe I could hate the political system without hating the people.  Second, they did not seem to know that much about the South's political system and equated hating it with Sarah Palin's remarks about the "real parts" of America.  Third-somewhat ironically-they really hated the idea of me honestly expressing hatred of anything.

On the first point, I have another diary coming later today or tomorrow.  But I think the second point needs addressing first.  So I want to present some background information about why I feel the way I do, so we can (hopefully) have an informed and intelligent discussion.  The main intent here is not to directly address the current situation, but to illuminate a repeating pattern that can be more easily seen at some remove in time.  My big-picture argument is that Southern white elites have repeatedly demanded that the rest of the nation bow to their will as the cost of social peace, and accept their historical narratives, along with the worldviews they embody.  Their political culture, institutions and ideology are deeply injurious to America, and accommodating ourselves to them has repeatedly brought us the utmost grief.  Above all, it has required us to turn our backs on fundamental moral truths, as well as the plain facts of history.  I'm going to draw primarily on two books I reviewed in the late 1990s and early 2000s.  The first is Race and Reunion: The Civil War in American Memory by Yale historian David W. Blight, formerly at Amherst.  The second is  Of One Blood: Abolitionism and the Origins of Racial Equality the last book by the University of California historian Paul Goodman, who died in 1995.

Prelude

The realities these two books describe are ones we all ought to know and understand-historical realities that include the elaborate creation of enormous shared lies.  The perspective they provide is one we all ought to share in common.  This is what the struggle for hegemony is all about, to have our reference points commonly understood, well-known and accepted, so that they come to naturally guide us as a nation.  Instead, we are still living through yet another era in which a Southern-dictated ideology blinds us to who, what and where we really are.  By learning more about past eras, past incarnations, we can mush more readily come to understand the ideology that entraps us today, and how to do away with it.

Race & Reunion: How The South Won The Civil War After All

I start with Race and Reunion because the period it deals with is closer to us in time.  I'm going to quote from a number of different reviewers, including myself. But I'd like to begin with Allen B. Ballard, from the African American Review (available via the EBSCOhost Magazines database at many public libraries), because his words echo and amplify what I've written just above (even though I wrote that before I found his review):

The book shows us how Southerners, decisively whipped on the battlefield, managed, nevertheless, to wrest a victory on the intellectual, social, and economic fronts. They did this by willfully manipulating the national press, historiography, and literature to show that the war had been about states rights, the right to property, and the right to live an agrarian life free of the class strife that supposedly plagued the industrialized North. And so was born the myth of the "Lost Cause," popularized in the movies Birth of a Nation and Gone With the Wind. Historians, lodged in the nation's greatest universities, wrote book after book extolling the virtues of the "civilization" that had been lost when the South was defeated.

Blight's book describes in detail just how all of this took place. It was a manipulation of history only made possible by the acceptance in the North of the belief that white Southerners knew best how to take care of the "black problem." And it required a willful suspension of the belief that blacks had even been a subject of the war, much less participated in it as soldiers (they were ten percent of the Union forces by the end of the war.)

When Race and Reunion came out in early 2001, I began my review for the Denver Post like this:

In an interview with Southern Partisan magazine, Attorney General John Ashcroft said, "Your magazine also helps set the record straight. You've got a heritage of doing that, of defending Southern patriots like Robert E. Lee, Stonewall Jackson, Jefferson Davis. Traditionalists should do more. I've got to do more.

"We've all got to stand up and speak in this respect, or else we will be taught that these people were giving their lives, subscribing their sacred fortunes and their honor to some perverted agenda."

These sentiments, only mildly challenged as lacking sensitivity in Ashcroft's confirmation hearings, reflect the conventional wisdom of 100 years ago and underscore the living significance of the cultural history traced by David Blight in Race and Reunion. How slavery managed to vanish from the core meaning of the Civil War, and the consequences of that disappearance, forms a key theme in Blight's disturbing examination of how the South won the Civil War in the 50 years after Gettysburg.

Slavery could not entirely disappear, of course.  But it could be so transformed as to be barely recognizable.  As I wrote in another review, this one for the Philadelphia City Paper:

There was no way to make slavery vanish, but it could be presented exactly as Southerners wished it to be: as a lost ideal. Thus, stories of faithful slaves defending plantations against invading Yankee troops became archetypical (like Vietnam War stories about unreturned POWs or protesters spitting on returning troops) while the real history of massive black mobilization on the Union side was virtually forgotten.

The connection between the rewriting of Civil War and Vietnam War history is anything but accidental.  The need to re-create past wars as noble is so deep that massive, fundamental realities are completely wiped from public memory, while utter fantasies or rare exceptions become the basis for central narratives, providing meanings the no one at the time would have thought of.  I continued:

This cleared the way for a new central story, one of male bonding: a sacred battle between equally noble white brothers who mystically had to fight each other in order to eventually reconcile and unify as they could never have otherwise done. This story, celebrating heroism and valor on both sides, clearly required Lee's nobility, which meant he must have fought for a noble cause, as the South had always claimed. The triumph of the South's interpretation facilitated economic reintegration on acceptable terms: segregation and the loss of all black political power.

And so it was that mere historical facts-such as the 200,000 blacks who fought for their own freedom-were utterly erased by the blind insistence on Southern nobility and honor (morality is so taken-for-granted, it need not even be mentioned).

Blight explores three different broad visions of Civil War memory-reconciliationist, emancipationist and white supremacist-which serve to illuminate one another through their contrasting interpretations and various interactions.  . The reconciliationist vision began with wartime responses to its terrible brutality.  This was epitomized by Walt Whitman's experience of tending the wounded and dying of both sides. Given the extreme hostility that pervaded the air, it's hard to see anything but guileless innocence in Whitman's actions.  Yet, by the time Blight's story is done, the reconciliationists will have utterly abandoned everything the Union fought for.  The book concludes at the time of the 50th Anniversary of the Battle of Gettysburg, a reunion of Northern and Southern veterans to which no blacks were invited, and which Blight justifiably calls "the triumph of segregation."

It did not have to be this way, of course.  And that is the whole point of Blight's book-to explore the war that was fought to remake the meaning of the Civil War, after the fact.  That meaning totally dominated American memory up to the time of the Civil Rights movement.  What is remarkable, however, is that having been pushed aside for a brief time, it appears to have fully re-established itself.   Indeed, Peter S. Carmichael, in Civil War Times (also available via the EBSCOhost Magazines database), began his review of Race and Reunion thus:

IN THE LAST EPISODE OF KEN Burns's epic documentary The Civil War, images of Union and Confederate veterans flash across the screen as the nostalgic sounds of a violin echo in the background. Seeing these gentle old men, with their long white beards and stooped shoulders, standing together and shaking hands, can make one forget that bitterness, hatred, and differing political beliefs over human slavery animated them during the war. Burns, like many other Americans, seems drawn to these postwar images because they project a comforting spirit of unity, forgiveness, and mutual respect between North and South. Such a version of the past, however, ignores the political causes and consequences of the war, the contributions of African-Americans, and the contentious battles of Reconstruction. White Americans since the 1880s have preferred this selective view and have celebrated the mutual heroism and sacrifice of Johnny Reb and Billy Yank as the true legacy of the Civil War.

In simplest terms, the reason this reconciliationist vision has prevailed in the form it has depends on its relationship to the two other visions-the emancipationist vision that it turned away from, and the Southern white supremacist vision, whose fundamental narratives and definitions it has accepted.

The larger emancipationist vision was, of course, present inherently among abolitionists long before the war. itself.  They knew that if war must come, then ending slavery would be the reason for it.  But Blight's focus is on the actual war, no matter how distorted the memories may be.  And for this, Blight locates the source of this vision in the natural outgrowths of the Abolitionists vision: in the Emancipation Proclamation and in the over 200,000 black combatants who joined the Union Army and Navy to fight for their own liberation and that of their people.

In a review in American Studies International (also available via EBSCOhost Magazines), István K.Vida, made a very important point about Blight's treatment of the emancipationist vision:

Probably the most remarkable achievement of Blight in Race and Reunion is that he attributes enough significance to the opinion of the advocates of the so-far neglected emancipationist view, namely that of African Americans and abolitionists. He makes extensive use of articles published in the black press, and statements by black spokesmen. Carefully-selected, lengthy quotations offer an insight into Frederick Douglass's contribution to the ideological meaning and memory of the Civil War. The reader cannot help feeling dumbfounded by the sharp-sightedness of Douglass, "Black America's principal symbol of a people's journey from slavery to freedom" (301), which became manifest when he realized how the national commitment to blacks' rights decreased as time passed. We learn about the battles Douglass had to fight to provide a momentum to the emancipationist vision of the Civil War, so that it could survive in the national memory, and especially in black communities. Besides the celebrated advocates of the three above-mentioned views (Booker T. Washington, whose reconciliationist "Atlanta Compromise" speech receives lengthy treatment by the author, Lost Cause and white supremacy orators as former Confederate-President Jefferson Davis and Mildred Lewis Rutherford, historian general of the United Daughters of the Confederacy), such "nameless" African-American voices as black soldiers, writing letters to their beloved ones from the trenches, or freed people, whose heart-rending advertisements searching for a kin separated from them by slavery were published in black newspapers even twenty years after the Civil War are rallied for the support of the emancipationist vision.

The white supremacist vision was gradually formulated in recovery from the South's shock of military defeat.  It took some time to gain strength and coherence, but once it got going it swept all before it, and eventually came to dominate reconciliationist thinking in a formula that sacrificed racial reconciliation for the sake of sectional reunion. Carmichael summarizes succinctly:

The Lost Cause dismisses slavery as the cause of the war, while insisting that slaves flourished under a benevolent system of labor that made the Old South a superior civilization. Furthermore, the argument goes, the Confederacy lost not on the battlefield but because of the North's superior war machine and overwhelming numbers. Rarely, if ever, do blacks surface as actors in their own struggle for freedom. They always stand on the periphery of dramatic events, confused and frightened observers who cannot survive without white assistance. Margaret Mitchell's Gone With the Wind best captures the "moonlight and magnolias" perspective of the South and the Confederacy, a fantastic, sentimental journey through the Civil War era.

I'd like to beginning winding down this section with the last two paragraphs of my Philadelphia City Paper review, and a brief summary comment:

There were definite stages in the process of reshaping memory, which Blight's broadly chronological account recognizes without overstressing. Instead, threads of continuity stand out. The overnight popularity of Booker T. Washington's formula for accommodation to segregation is a case in point. Washington satisfied Southern white supremacist fantasies of black leadership willfully submitting to and celebrating them, which reinforced their long-held mythology of faithful slaves defending the Confederacy. He satisfied white reconciliationists of both sections by denouncing Reconstruction as a mistake: a common white view for nearly a generation before Washington echoed it. At the same time, he satisfied black longings for progress reflected in an emerging literature celebrating black achievements since Emancipation, although he placed definite limits where others would not. The only significant opposition he encountered, among other blacks, was also framed in terms of evolving interpretive traditions with roots predating Emancipation, which provided themes that would prove central to 20th-century leaders as diverse as Marcus Garvey and Martin Luther King.

Race and Reunion is a deeply unsettling, pioneering work that raises far more questions than it can possibly answer: questions that should continue to trouble us. John Ashcroft's Civil War views provide striking testimony that the myths and lies forged over a century ago still have us locked in their chains.

By quoting other reviewers along with my own reviews, I hope to have laid a good foundation for saying that my outlook is well-supported by Blight's book, and I am not simply reading my own views into his.  Blight's book, in turn won the highly prestigious  Bancroft Prize from Columbia, along with several other top prizes, including two from the Organization of American Historians.  We are not talking Michelle Malkin here.

What I hope to have established is two-fold:

First: that there's a strong case to be made that the meaning and significance of the Civil War have been and continue to be not merely distorted, but virtually turned inside out, due to the triumph of a Southern-based white supremacist ideology that has been so successful it is no longer even recognized as such.  While race clearly plays a central role in this, the fierce denial of historical reality is so outlandish that it impairs our ability to think and form sound policies on a wide range of subject matters.

Second: that this Southern-base white supremacist ideology has triumphed through and because of a morally corrupt ideology of reconciliation without truth between Northern and Southern whites, excluding the very people whose struggle for freedom was the central historical fact that has thus been denied.

In the next section, I discus another book that explains how a similar reconciliatory ideology between North and South had to be challenged in order to begin the process of Abolitionist movement-building that eventually lead to the freeing of America's slaves. But first, a concluding excerpt from a review in The American Historical Review, (also available via the EBSCOhost Magazines database) by Jim Cullen:

A century ago, Douglass struggled mightily to keep alive an emancipationist faith of the 1860s via the power of his rhetoric.  Blight too is striving to keep an emancipationist faith alive, one nurtured as much by the 1960s as the 1860s.  And yet one wonders whether his approach, so deeply invested in the norms of academic history, can reach beyond the people who least need convincing....  Bright has succeeded on the terms he has set for himself: this is an important book by an important scholar.  It may well be that form now on, it is not light that is needed but fire, not the gentle shower but thunder.  A challenge awaits.

Of course, there is now a tendency to assume that racism is somehow ended, now that we have our first black President.  To counter such fantasies, we have more black men in prison than ever before, the vast majority for drug-related crimes, when blacks and whites use drugs at a virtually identical rate.  Indeed, by virtually every measure except for current presidents-elect, progress in redressing undeserved black disadvantage remains virtually or totally stalled.  The fact that we can elect a black President-which costs us nothing-and yet cannot materially lift the chains off the vast majority of ordinary black citizens, is a testament not to the breadth of our progress, but to the narrowness of it, and of our vision.

Of One Blood: The Abolitionist Defeat of The Colonialist Fantasy

    "[God] hath made of one blood all nations of men..." Acts 17:26

Race and Reunion had a very focused theme that was right up my ally for the purpose of this diary.  Of One Blood is not that sort of book.  It is a more multi-dimensional exploration of how the Abolitionist movement developed, relating this development to broader cultural developments (such as why many evangelicals became Abolitionists, while many others did not) and examining in particular the roles of people who have previously been under-appreciated, from the free blacks who first inspired the white Abolitionists to the large numbers of working class whites-particularly young women working in New England textile mills-who went to meetings, signed petitions, in short, acted politically when the official political system had no more of a place for them than it did for blacks.

My particular focus is on one aspect of this whole story, the way in which Northern and Southern elites came together to form a common hegemonic framework on how to deal with the "black problem", and how the free blacks of the North came together to oppose it, first organizing internally, then reaching out and sparking the birth of the white Abolitionist movement.  As the publisher's description puts it:

In the half-century following the American Revolution, a sizable free black population emerged, the result of state-sponsored emancipation in the North and individual manumission in the slave states. At the same time, a white movement took shape, in the form of the American Colonization Society, that proposed to solve the slavery question by sending the emancipated blacks to Africa and making Liberia an American "colony." The resistance of northern free blacks was instrumental in exposing the racist ideology underlying colonization and inspiring early white abolitionists to attack slavery straight on. In a society suffused with racism, says Goodman, abolitionism stood apart by its embrace of racial equality as a Christian imperative.

Unfortunately, I don't have access to my original book review or my notes-only the relatively meager marginal notes I made.  Hence, this section has a totally different, and much briefer format.

Here is a key passage of the book, which lays out much of the essential historical argument:

In the half-century following the American Revolution, a large free black population emerged for the first time in American history, the fruit of state-sponsored abolition north of the Mason-Dixon line and individual manumissions in the slave states. By 1830 their numbers had grown to three hundred thousand. These free blacks proved to be a troubling presence. To Henry Clay, echoing common opinion in the 1820s, they were "the most corrupt, depraved and abandoned" people in the country. Whether one attributed their condition to inherent defects of character and intelligence or to white prejudice that prevented them from developing their capacities, Clay believed that blacks would forever remain a degraded people as long as they lived in the United States. "No talents however great, no piety, however pure and devoted, no patriotism, however ardent," Clay was certain, ever could earn African Americans equal rights or respect in the land of their birth. White prejudice was permanent, unalterable, "invincible." In African repatriation lay the only hope.

By 1817, African colonization had become more than a speculative idea. In the next decade, hundreds of prominent Americans--political leaders including Presidents Madison and Monroe and religious leaders in most of the large denominations, from Presbyterian Lyman Beecher of Massachusetts to Episcopalian bishop William Mead of Virginia--threw their prestige and influence behind the America Colonization Society (ACS), which established the colony of Liberia in West Africa. One of the most impressive voluntary societies of its day, the ACS boasted over two hundred state and local auxiliaries by 1830. It was quietly assisted by President Monroe and endorsed by state legislatures and the major religious denominations, as well as by an illustrious panoply of notables.

The ACS unintentionally mobilized black opposition, however, and though this opposition was ignored at first, it eventually made profound inroads on white opinion. From the outset, African Americans in the free communities from Boston to Baltimore defiantly rejected colonization, warning that they never would freely abandon the land of their birth, which they had drenched with their blood and sweat. They would struggle for full equality, encouraged by the impressive advances they already had made in the decades since winning their freedom. By the 1820s, the free black communities of the large Northern cities had developed resources, leadership, self-confidence, and militancy that proved formidable, even against so weighty an opponent as the ACS. By 1830, African American leaders had begun to convince whites who supported colonization that racism underpinned slavery and colonization, that colonization stood in the way of emancipation, and that as long as Northern whites embraced both, there was no prospect for ending slavery in the United States. By insisting on their inherent equality, by acknowledging but explaining black deficiencies as the result of slavery and persisting white prejudice afterward, and by pointing with pride to their patriotism and piety and to their achievements through education and industry, blacks affirmed bourgeois values that they shared with whites. Black confidence that whites could overcome prejudice if they only opened their eyes to black aspiration and accomplishment thus challenged a core assumption of colonization.

By the early 1830s, free blacks had convinced a small but prophetic vanguard of white men and women to repudiate colonization and embrace immediate emancipation and racial equality. By virtue of their personal example and through the power of their argument, they created the modern biracial abolitionist movement. Their faith in the ability of white people to change, to abandon colonization for integration and racial prejudice for equality, was the triggering force behind the emergence of racial egalitarianism. Yet the fact that only a small sector of white opinion proved susceptible to African American persuasion necessarily complicates any explanation of the origins of racial equality in Jacksonian America. Along with the story of the fight against racial prejudice, the story of that prejudice also must be told.

What needs to be added are two things: First, that it colonization was always a totally ridiculous concept as a "solution" to America's racial problems-even if it were solely limited to free blacks, whose numbers were constantly swelling.  There were simply far too many blacks to send them all back to Africa.  The Wikipedia entry for the ACS notes:

Although the ratio of whites to blacks was 8:2 from 1790 to 1800, it was the massive increase in the number of free African-Americans that disturbed proponents of colonization. From 1790 to 1800, the number of free African-Americans increased from 59,467 (1½ % of total U.S. population, 7½ % of U.S. black population) to 108,378 (2 % of U.S. population), a percentage increase of 82 percent; and from 1800 to 1810, the number increased from 108,378 to 186,446 (2½ % of U.S. pop.), an increase of 72 percent.

In contrast, the ACS had managed to relocate a mere 13,000 blacks to Liberia by 1867.  Thus, colonization was always a white racist fantasy, the perfectly-matched solution for the fantasy fears it was meant to address.

The second thing that needs to be added is that colonization met the needs of both northern and southern white elites in a way that justified the indefinite continuance of slavery as a "necessary evil".  It was thus of direct material benefit to Southern white elites.  At the same time, it let northern whites off the hook, morally.  The fantasy that someday all would be solved allowed them to ignore the inconvenient truth that in the real world, nothing at all was actually getting solved.  It was, in short, the ultimate "post-partisan," "pragmatic," "non-ideological" solution imaginable.   And nothing could be done to move toward abolition and racial justice without directly attacking it.

Once that happened, there was a resurgence in the long-dormant tradtion of actively pro-slavery argumentation, as can be seen in the chronological developments laid out in Larry Tise's 1990 book, Proslavery: A History of the Defense of Slavery in America, 1701-1840.  As other parts of Of One Blood describe, some evangelical Christians were powerfully drawn to the Abolitionist cause.  Others, however were not, or were even drawn to oppose it.  Indeed, Tise documents that Northern ministers actually began making pro-slavery arguments in the early 1830s before Southerners joined in.  But from here on, not only was slavery defended as a positive good, rather than a necessary evil, it was also justified overwhelmingly based on arguments from the Bible.  However frustrating or disheartening this may have been for the evangelical abolitionists, it was a clear sign that the Colonialist hegemony was gone for good, the battle was joined on new grounds because the old ideology had been shattered.

The Moral Of My Story

What these two historical accounts indicate is the dominant power that Southern elite interests have had in shaping our national political discourse to satisfy their own ends.  That race was central was inevitable, but that was only, at bottom, because race was central to their class interests.  Controlling black bodies meant controlling white bodies (and minds) as well, as the well-honed politics of resentment assured, generation after generation, after generation.  As clearly indicated in the section on Race and Reunion, the ideologies shaped well over 100 years ago are still alive today.  But new ones have been layered over them as well.  It is no easy matter to deal with untangling even one generation of lies, but we are faced with dozens of them.  And that is why we need to focus on the lie-makers, their motivations and their traditions of lie-making.  It is far and away the most effective approach for getting a handle on all the means and methods meant to distract us from grasping the truth, and acting together in the common interest of us all.


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Thanks, Paul (4.00 / 5)
Good stuff.

Those who want to paper over your insights would do well to think of a couple of things that haven't gotten much mention:

Aside from a few "fringe elements" like yourself and Michael Lind, where is the pushback against Corker, Shelby and the rest of anti-American-worker Southern Senators.  Presumably, there are some Southern Democrats and trade unionists who would love to organize their people to punish these renegades, but we hear none of that.

My question is simple.  Why the hell not?

In the 1840s and the 1850s for a Southerner to become known an Abolitionist was to take one's life into one's hands.  Is the Southern Democrat today in the same position?  Obviously not, in certain enclaves, but, in others, it doesn't look all that different.  There may be little that can be done now to reverse that situation, but the point is that this renegade ideology cannot be permitted to "go national."  Allowing it to do so will destroy the entire progressive movement, from unionism to anti-racism, etc.

This is an important fight.


sTiVo's rule: Just because YOU "wouldn't put it past 'em" doesn't prove that THEY did it.


I quite agree that this is a well done and important diary, (0.00 / 0)
however I would sadly disagree that any Southern "renegade ideology" might be about to "go national." Among Democrats, support for the auto bailouts polled at 45% nationally: http://apnews.myway.com/articl... .

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CNN National Poll (0.00 / 0)
Sixty-three percent of those questioned in a new CNN/Opinion Research Corporation survey support the roughly $13 billion loan package the White House is extending to American automakers to prevent them from going into bankruptcy, with 37 percent opposing the move.  December 22, 2008


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Aren't you proving my point? (4.00 / 2)
Sounds like you're arguing that the Southern Ideology HAS gone national.

Where are the prominent liberals who will stand loudly and proudly in condemnation of these Lost Causers?  They don't exist.  They have ceded the stage to these jerks.

sTiVo's rule: Just because YOU "wouldn't put it past 'em" doesn't prove that THEY did it.


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You mean the White Conservative South or its system? (4.00 / 2)
Because I'm a native Southerner and I see no greater historical blight on the nation than white conservative Southerners and the political-economic system they spawned.

But the reason I don't just say "the South" and then have in reserve some complicated definition which I hope people remember / perceive is to avoid mixups.

It was the black liberal South which largely ended segregation through defiance and mobilizing institutions.  It's black Southern (usually urban area) Democrats who help win a Democratic majority in Congress.

So first and foremost, given that a majority of the nation's African Americans live in the classically defined American South, I sure as hell don't want to just give the South to its white conservative and often white supremist partisans.

In addition, I'm hypersensitive to the existence of fellow white Southern liberals like myself who just don't go along with the quasi or actually dominant right wing bullsh*t.

And finally, I sure as hell don't want to give right wing white Southern conservative a**holes the satisfaction either that they possess a whole region of the country nor that their regimes demonstrate anything other than treason, cowardice, betrayal, weakness, and defeat.


Fair enough, but that is the point of the article too. (0.00 / 0)


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The government has a defect: it's potentially democratic. Corporations have no defect: they're pure tyrannies. -Chomsky


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Not really (0.00 / 0)
The point of the original comment is to show how certain effects of a Southern elite-dominated political system affected the nation.  That Southern-elite dominated political system is described in the title as "the South".

It really didn't have anything to do with my suggestion on a qualified use of the term "South" (a recommendation which I imperfectly follow), and at this point although I feel confident you read the original post, I'm not as sure you read the comment you responded to.


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I'm Really Confused (0.00 / 0)
My whole point here is demystification.  To lose sight of this and get yourself in a twist over language that's not precisely to your taste is to completely miss the point.

(Precise etiquette is very much a part of the Southern elite system, as I'm sure you know.)

If it helps, then just think of the title as an abbreviation of "American Amnesia: The Cost of Accommodating The South, Rather Than Transforming It."

Does that help?

"You know what they say -- those of us who fail history... doomed to repeat it in summer school." -- Buffy The Vampire Slayer, Season 6, Episode 3


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Grumpy I'll give you; but think again of why I even felt like making the point (4.00 / 3)
I think I was less focused on my own semantic preferences than I was responding to your introductory comments that a large point of this post was to clarify what you intended to say in an earlier post.  Maybe you and I concluded different loci of confusion sources.

Personally I think the reply comments which were in the earlier post to the effect of 'how can you hate an institution or its leaders but not the people', or 'we shouldn't ever say we hate anything' don't deserve much in the way of response.  Those are just weak, weak points.  On the other hand, if you think it helps advance the debate by using this concept to reintroduce the massively corrupting legacy of ultra right wing and racist ideology and institutions that the American South has plagued the nation with, that's your call.

We want the same things, and there's nothing I want more right now than for the historic political power of the South (and if it's me saying it, the white conservative South or Southern elites or a million variants mentioned already or yet unmentioned) to be crushed into the dirt.

Whichever way that has to happen and be talked about it in order to inflict maximal damage to these bunch of Southern pseudo-redneck right wing reactionary bastards, I'll go along with it.

If it puts a further dent in the cult of Southern identity whiners who always moan about not being "respected" enough, even better -- and for me that's not just the neo-Confederate Republicans like Shelby and the cavalcade of Georgia idiots but the rhetorical groanings of "Mudcat" Saunders too.


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Mudcat (4.00 / 1)
gives mud and cats both a bad name, IMHO.

I think we're finally on the same wavelength, now.  Thanks for taking the time and effort to clear it up for me.

"You know what they say -- those of us who fail history... doomed to repeat it in summer school." -- Buffy The Vampire Slayer, Season 6, Episode 3


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I do not want to make this a back and forth (4.00 / 1)
and sorry if you feel I am not undertanding your point, which I said I felt was fair, but, Paul has written the article to not just identify what the meant by 'the South' so to delineate exactly what has happened and how it grows into American culture generally,a snd where it arose from and who it benefits, but also, to de-generalize the phrase from meaning anyone, let alone any white person, who happens to live between the gulf of Mexico and Washington DC.

Which is, unless I am truly dense, your rightful request.


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Huge article! Fascinating and informative and mind clearing. (4.00 / 1)
I want more. I would love to see explicated, and I hope I understand correctly that its coming, on the layers of lies and ideology that are used today to perpetuate this system, and the ways in which it is enforced. I look forward to those. More on the ways in which the system works now to keep people from

The covering up of history, the rewriting of 'common knowledge' to benefit the powerful can, it is hoped, be fought with more skill and effectiveness now. The freedom of the press, goes the brilliantly explanatory quote, belong to them that own the presses. As new media, and new communication systems have shown in the recent past politically, the ownership of the presses is available now to almost anyone willing to sit down for a few seconds and formulate an idea.

So we have chances now to ensure that history now being written will not only be written by the powerful, the wealthy the connected.

I do want to point out though that this is exactly what is being done in the radio programs and mass mailings and television shows of the right as we speak. Limbaugh writes, and Rove speaks the lie that right now -"there is no recession, no downturn now, its just a trick of the 'librul media' They are spreading a false history right now of the need for "resistance" (and that is a very loaded word) to the "illegitimate" Obama administration. In terms of the loaded words being used, I hope the secret service is watching very closely.

In another manner about rewritten history, I was given a book two days ago, about Christopher Columbus sailing west with maps of the continents between Europe and Asia. The future is going to make the past better, :-) or at least our understanding of it.

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The government has a defect: it's potentially democratic. Corporations have no defect: they're pure tyrannies. -Chomsky


I Do Plan To Do Something Along The Lines You're Asking About (4.00 / 4)
But I didn't start writing this with that in mind.  It sort of emerged in the process of writing, so you may have to wait a bit as my research and self-organizing catches up with my ambition and intuition.

Fair enough?

I can give a brief foretaste, however--in that I'll be concerned in part with the individualist language of "personal responsibility" which was trotted out defensively in response to the 1960s advance of the Civil Rights Movement, along the larger framework of "Colorblind Racism" developed by Eduardo Bonilla-Silva and others.

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Cool. This diary was excellent, (0.00 / 0)
as have the others you posted today been.  You are doing great work.  Don't burn yourself out.  Your capacity for this kind of work is rather amazing.

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"More on the ways in which the system works now to keep people from" (4.00 / 1)
their own history, access to news, coalitions with people who are actually on their side. Because the badly, poorly and wrongly educated people trapped inside this lie also deserve access to very affordable healthcare, also deserve jobs and better wages and a respite from the jackasses who run so many towns and factories.

[The above was erased from the end of the first paragraph above in a badly executed spell check correction.]

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The government has a defect: it's potentially democratic. Corporations have no defect: they're pure tyrannies. -Chomsky


Does the South Actually Do Anything? (0.00 / 0)
Advance warning:  I am going to be a little sophomoric.

Can anybody name some positive contributions that the South has made to our Political culture or public life over the last, say, 120 years or so?  I can't.  

This doesn't prove anything, which is why I am posting. I can think of lots of changes through the 20th century that came from Northern regions or political movements -- but none from the South.

I consider myself to be a "Western Progressive," which means I like voting for Propositions and non-partisan Statewide offices -- and for Senators since 1912. I like social Security, womens' sufferage, low-tuition State Universities, enlightened Labor Laws, Unions, publicly owned local utilities, credit unions, open Primaries -- These and many other fairly noncontroversial changes have taken root in our political culture over the last 100 years, and they all connect with regional movements or politicians rooted in Northern States.  

My list of items like this is a long one, and nothing even remotely connected with the South appears on it. Nothing. I am actually surprised.

This is your chance to correct me, and I hope that you can. Please don't name novelists, artists, recipes, our Southern-dominated Officer corps, or winter weather.  

List some positive contributions that the South has made to our Political culture or public life over the last, say, 120 years or so. Go ahead.

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Mass Non-Violent Civil Disobedience (4.00 / 1)
For starters.

Oh, sure, that came from James Lawson and then Martin Luther King fighting to change the South.  But it came from the South, nonetheless!

And, the fact is, a lot of good stuff has come from black and white progressives struggling to transform the South.

But directly from the Southern establishment?  No, not much at all I can think of either.

Anyone out there more knowledgable, please chime in!

(Of course, it goes without saying that the South produces all sorts of other good stuff, music, literature, art, cuisine, etc.  We're looking for political stuff here.)

"You know what they say -- those of us who fail history... doomed to repeat it in summer school." -- Buffy The Vampire Slayer, Season 6, Episode 3


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And if you are late to this discussion (0.00 / 0)
'the South' refers to the establishment of power, the system of power enforcement, the education system, the methods of thought control, the benefits and opportunity costs lost because of the continuation of the ruling class that governs the area, called in other places, "the South" and much of America.

It does not refer to you, probably, nor your parents ,again most probably, nor to the people encased in it, who have lower than world average access to schools, hospitals and wages.

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Good Reminder ... (4.00 / 1)
... and thanks for understanding the spirit of my impertanent question, three or four posts back.

The South is a complicated place. They don't vote as solidly for Republicans as we in the North tend to assume. It's good to remind people like me in passing, that there are lots of Progressives in the South, who individually are required to show more courage than many Progressive Northerners could ever consider.

And I still would like to know, by your own definition, whether anyone here can name anything positive -- anything at all, that the Southern Establishment has provided to the United States of America in the last 120 years.  What have they championed, lobbied for, brought into public reality, been correct about, or even shared with the rest of the country that we need to remember whenever we get frustrated with them.  And I am definitely frustrated.

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How Reconciliation Can Go Wrong (4.00 / 3)
What I most appreciated about this diary was the addition of a concrete and powerful example to the fairly common view that "reconcilation" can be a disaster, rather than a panacea.

My temperament has always made me more favorable than average to the pro-reconcilation types, so it was really good for my mind to see it pointed out so concretely how "reconcilation" can go horribly, profoundly, consequentially wrong.

That doesn't mean that reconciliation can never work, of course.  But it does mean that failing horribly and making everything worse is one of the real and possible (likely?) outcomes.  

Sobering stuff.

(Of course, the idea that reconciliation CAN be a spectacular failure ought to have been self-evident by now, I guess, but dammit, young people keep showing up with half-baked ideas and insufficient historical knowledge, so everything that's ever been obvious has to be proved over and over!  Oh well.)


As A Great Whitman Fan From A Very Young Age (4.00 / 1)
Blight's argument really hit me, let me tell you.

I had been aware of this aspect of him, of course.  But I had never put it together the way Blight did, which made me feel particularly stupid, and even a bit racist myself once I did.  So it was not an entirely pleasant experience for me, either.  But necessary.

Still, even knowing how it ends--and seeing how clearly it was headed there, even from it's most innocent beginnings--the fact that I had been a Whitman fan since age 12 or so, it made me more sympathetic to the reconciliationist desire.  And, of course, if the reconciliationists had only made it imperative to include the black/emancipationist view as well, then everything would have been hunky dory.

Except, of course, the white supremacists would never have signed on to it.

Which is why, in the end, we just simply have to kill them off.

With kindness, of course.

The only sure way to destroy an enemy is to turn them into a friend.


"You know what they say -- those of us who fail history... doomed to repeat it in summer school." -- Buffy The Vampire Slayer, Season 6, Episode 3


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Dissolve the Union (4.00 / 1)
In the nineteenth century, the south tried to secede from the union.  In the twenty-first century, it's time the union forced them to leave.  Partition them to Israel.  The evangelicals will like it there.

Us Southern Liberals will not. (4.00 / 1)
We exist.

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offended, hell (0.00 / 0)
I'm with you, Paul.. And I DO hate the people.  The racists and goobers and morons at least.  Lincoln should have let them secede ... can you inagine how great the United Northern States of America would be?  Nice job, Abe.

I Understand the Sentiment, But... (4.00 / 2)
That sort of misses the whole abolition of slavery thingie, doesn't it?

Details, details...

"You know what they say -- those of us who fail history... doomed to repeat it in summer school." -- Buffy The Vampire Slayer, Season 6, Episode 3


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It is not correct to say soemthing Paul did not say, and then say you agree with him. (4.00 / 1)
For example, I could this, I agree with you weefer, all humans are hateful. But I would be wrong.

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Consider this! (4.00 / 1)
In order for the "lost cause" to become the dominant narrative in the rest of the Country rather than just the South it must have served the interests of the economic and political elites in some way.  

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100 Years Behind the Times (4.00 / 3)
Let me preface my remarks with a little personal background.  I am a 75 year old Southern woman who agrees with your comments totally.  I was born in and still live in a small south Georgia town, and let me tell you, it's not pleasant.  I grew up hearing my father say that the South was always 100 years behind the rest of America. And he was so right. In the '50's when I was dating, having a "Yankee" boy friend was not a good thing.  Can you imagine that?  We were still actively living in the Reconstuction era with "negro quarters" and a segregated society.  
How I came out of that background still sane is still a mystery to me.  I can only attribute my sanity to the fact that my parents were Democrats and did not EVER evince any racial bigotry.  But the South today is truly a sick place to live.  When my family gets together, which is often, I end up with a migraine because I have to  put up with the sneering of my own family because I am a Democrat.  My daughter fled south Georgia when she graduated from high school because of the rampant racism that exists here and has lived in Atlant for the last 22 years.  I must say that Atlanta, or at least her part of Atlanta, is strongly Democratic and therefore livable for her and her family.  Most of the South is a lost cause as far as I am concerned.
And for the Republicans to cling to the South is their death knell.  
Their party will never change until they weed out the control that the Southern congressmen that represent their party are all gone.  Until then, they are history and will continue to lose elections and lose big.
What is so disturbing about Southern Republicans to me is their absolute distain for intelligence, fairness, kindness to others, and even to Christian teachings.  It is stunning to hear the things that come out of their mouths - all said with absolute conviction that they are right and that they are true Christians.  It is just sickening to me.  I sometimes feel that I am living in an alien land, a land that does not resemble in any way a truly Christian nation or a truly democrat one.

Wow! You Have A Very Apropos Handle (0.00 / 0)
And I'm always pleased to have someone with years and years of on-the-ground experience chime in to add their perspective.

In fact, in times like this, it tickles me pink.

"You know what they say -- those of us who fail history... doomed to repeat it in summer school." -- Buffy The Vampire Slayer, Season 6, Episode 3


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White supremecy and god's chosen people (4.00 / 1)
make for a proud and ignorant arrogance I can't handle.  

I also believe that (0.00 / 0)
the partisan Democrat deification of "Southern Agrarians" like Robert Penn Warren played a role in the dominance of the "lost cause"

Robert Penn Warren and other Southern "New Agrarians" hated Huey Long because he upset the traditional Southern Class hierarchy, which included Long's good treatment of Blacks.

National Security Democrats like Arthur Schlesinger disliked Huey Long because he would not run as a Democrat, and he challenged Roosevelt to go further left particularly after the budget cutting of 1936, so the propt up Penn Warren's "All The Kings Men" as a critique of Long, The trouble is Penn Warren was a lost cause warrior to the core. I believe that is why centrist Democrat are often so twisted in my view.   The centrists Southerners like Zell Miller, James Carville and Bill Clinton, all wanted to demonize Long as well, probably because they want to make it look like no progressive can win a Southern State.  I believe this started with the Demonization of Huey Long.  If Huey had lived the traditional "bourbon democrat" later known as the dixiecrat, later to become a republican, or new democrats, would have lost control of the political establishment in Louisianan and perhaps many other southern states.

Many apologist for Penn Warren note that he recanted his "Southern Agrarians" views later in life, but I point out that this did not happen until long after writing "All The Kings Men."


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You Know I'm Not Sure How True This Is Of Clinton (0.00 / 0)
because I've never studied him that deeply, and it always seemed like there was sufficient explanation for his behavior in more recent political developments, not least his early political loss.  Is there some reasonably short reference you could point me to that talks about this?

Most of the rest of what you've written seems pretty much right on to me, and the overall sweep particularly so.

"You know what they say -- those of us who fail history... doomed to repeat it in summer school." -- Buffy The Vampire Slayer, Season 6, Episode 3


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It's not referenced (0.00 / 0)
It is just my own observations about things.

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Paul, what I don't understand (0.00 / 0)
is your attribution of enormous power to the 'Southern elites.' Where are the Northern capitalists who owned the country and hired Southern elites as their agents in your narrative? They were doing what they did best, accumulating more money and power. It was in their interest to surrender the rights of freedmen to white political terrorism in 1876 and accommodate Jim Crow thereafter. Diane McWorther's Carry Me Home and the recent book about convict leasing (sorry, can't remember the title or author) explore the effects on Birmingham of US Steel's lack of interest in the details of labor arrangements. Disgust for the crude rapaciousness of the new capitalist elite in the 19th century explains some of the nostalgia for the Southern agrarian myth. Henry James, who probably never ventured farther south than the Jersey shore and was not a noted Confederate partisan, presented a sympathetic portrayal of Basil Ransom, the Mississippi cousin, in The Bostonians as a contrast to the vulgar acquisitiveness of Northerners which offended James' patrician sensibility.
Crackpot Southerners wrote pseudo-scientific treatises on race differences from antebellum times but scientific racialism, as a rationalization for empire and white supremacy, was the consensus view of educated elites here and in Europe. Franz Boas at Columbia in the 1920s first began the process of discrediting that view (after the racist immigration quotas were passed in the 20s and not repealed until 1965.)
Social history in the last 40 years has recognized the agency of African-Americans, women and the working class. Your argument against the Southern political elite denies agency to white Southerners. C. Vann Woodward worked to identify a progressive Southern tradition and suggested, as you do, that elites manipulated mass opinion. Much as I rever Woodward, he got it wrong. The mass of white Southerners didn't need to be encouraged to be racists. It was in the water. Elite opinion opposed lynching because it threatened order and disorder could eventually threaten them. Private violence continued for several decades after elites turned against it. After the Civil Rights Act the Southern upper and upper-middle classes, again fearing disorder, switched their allegiance to more subtle racists. It was middle and working class whites who supported the grass eaters.
You give too much credit to 'Southern elites.' Those elites are still to a degree a comprador class. Southerners are more foot soldiers than generals in the counter-revolution. Mean, stupid and reactionary are the qualities much of the white South currently votes for. To claim an unbroken tradition of economic reaction from the antebellum period is to misread history. The 1896 election is an almost perfect mirror image of 2008. The South sent ardent New Dealers to DC in the 30s. White supremacy triumphed over Populism after 1964 but as late as 1976 the South voted Democratic while Northern industrial states went for Ford.
I agree with a previous comment marvelling at your prodigious, thoughtful and provocative writing. Even though you wrote that anyone who dared question that the South was the root of all political evil in this country was employing hoary Confederate arguments, I agree with you that it is vital to defeat McConnell, Shelby, Demint et al.  



Northerners Had The Capital, Sure (0.00 / 0)
But it's absurd to say they ran things.  McWhorter certainly never says they ran things.  She says they were fine with letting the locals run things their way.  That's how it was.

Of course the North could have dictated terms quite strernly had they chosen to.  That's a given.  And it's why the reconciliationists have such a heavy burder of guilt as well as responsibility.

But they were much like the "post-partisan"/DLC/Versailles Dems we have today, full of themselves and full of stuff and nonsense.  Not running a damn thing, even though they damn sure could have.

As for your observations re James, etc. That was all part of the mix.  The South created this mystique and the Northern elites ate it up.  The Brits, too.

As for the lower classes (the South never had much of a true middle class, more like an upper lower class), what I'm saying simply is that operated within parameters set by the elite.  There was a high racist ideology that delimited the possible, and then there were much more powerless folks responding to it, with the most vulger, violent forms of racism as the ugliest extreme, and a generally much smaller, sometimes non-existent other extreme of collaboration, as with the brief flowering of populism before folks like Tom Watson joined the KKK.

But the periods when this sort of activity actually escaped the bounds set by the Southern elites were brief indeed.  The Virginia Redeemers were the very rare exception that actually held power for a while, and that was before the Lost Cause ideology had fully established itself.

Finally, I'm not arguing anything incompatible with Southern elite support for the New Deal.  They made sure they got a hugely outsized cut of the pie, and complete control of the welfare system, so the hated Federal government paid for their sharecroppers subsistence when their work wasn't needed.  It was sweet, let me tell you.

At the same time, Northern Republican elites remained racial liberals until quite late. Attica was the turning point for Rockefeller, but others remained racial liberals till finally abandoning the party.  

"You know what they say -- those of us who fail history... doomed to repeat it in summer school." -- Buffy The Vampire Slayer, Season 6, Episode 3


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Racism is endemic (4.00 / 1)
in American culture. The South took negrophobia to pathological levels because that is where African-Americans lived. There is an exchange in Ship of Fools where a Southern character says Jews don't bother us much. Another character replies that is only because you are too busy lynching Negroes. If the South had imported Chinese labor as California did, the obsession would have been the yellow peril. Military and para-military campaigns against Mexican-Americans or Native Americans were unthinkable in Georgia because there were few Mexican-Americans and Andrew Jackson had solved the Cherokee problem.
The North certainly set the terms of the Southern economy. It actively acquiesced in Jim Crow from a sense of racial/racist solidarity. The South was in vogue among certain Northern elites as a bastion of a lost agrarian, individualistic idyll in the new urban, corporate society (poverty, to be picturesque, must be rural.)
I recently read an exchange from the Senate in 1900 where Pitchfork Ben Tillman taunted a Pennsylvania Senator who had defended the water-boarding killing of a priest in the Philippines. Tom Watson as a Senator in the early twenties proposed the US Navy should consist of 1 or 2 ships so the admirals would have something to ride around on. Northern Alabama voted for McCain at levels near 80%. This is the area of the state which sent Hugo Black and Lister Hill to the Senate, Carl Elliot to the House and elected 'Big Jim' Folsom governor- as good a bunch of economic liberals as you'll find anywhere. Southern elites were not the monolith modern Republicans have created, once white supremacy is discounted.
I appreciate your attention and will impose you no longer. I am quibbling and beginning to repeat myself.

       


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Out My Window I Can See (0.00 / 0)
lands that were "legally" stolen from Japanese-Americans during WWII, when they were shipped off to concentration camps.  So I have not the slightest doubt that racism has a long and varied past in my home state.  Heck, I remember Prop 14, when the state voted 2-1 to repeal the Rumford Act, our state fair housing law, when I was a young teen.  So I have no illusions.

But here's the thing: these were not nearly so central to how California was organized as slavery and segregation have been to the South.  Again, it's not a matter of individual morality.  It is a matter of social, cultural and insitutional practices that profoundly shape virtually every aspect of Southern life.

"You know what they say -- those of us who fail history... doomed to repeat it in summer school." -- Buffy The Vampire Slayer, Season 6, Episode 3


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The same thing happened to me... (4.00 / 1)
I posted a diary "The South Shall Rise No More" on Daily Kos citing some analysts noting that the election marked the probable end of Southern influence on politics at the national level. I noted that the South almost strangled this nation in its crib rather than give up slavery, tore it apart in a bloody civil war, and stifled the civil rights movement for decades through southern Congressional committee chairs and the filibuster. Finally, as Tom Schaller wrote in Whistling Past Dixie, under the Bush administration conservative Southerners like Tom DeLay have been running this country unchecked headlong to disaster. My point was that having a government that will finally be representative of the majority of this country could only be good for progressive causes. Instead I got raked over the coals, with some commenters taking my arguments all too personally. I thought it was obvious that I was talking about the Southern political (read: white and conservative) power structures but apparently I was mistaken. This is just to let you know, Paul, that you had company.

I'm Not The Least Bit Surprised (0.00 / 0)
There are some very good, very conscious Southern Progressives.  Heck, some of them are even white!  But many, many Southern Democrats still have so much unchecked cultural garbage in their heads they literally cannot hear you, because their responses are virtually automatic around "defending their honor" and all that same old shit that's been used to string them along for centuries now.

"You know what they say -- those of us who fail history... doomed to repeat it in summer school." -- Buffy The Vampire Slayer, Season 6, Episode 3

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