Missing Al Franken's Voice

by: Paul Rosenberg

Sat Jan 17, 2009 at 21:06


The continued stalling of getting Al Franken seated in the Senate may be having much more serious consequences than anyone yet realizes.  It's inevitable, of course, that having come close, the Republicans will never accept that they lost, and will therefore always hate Al Franken even more than they already would have, which is quite a lot, considering that (a) They hate Hollywood, and (b) firmly believe that only Republican actors and entertainers should ever be elected to public office. (c) They hate anyone with a sense of humor that doesn't revolve around sadism of some kind. (d) They hate anyone who is smart. (e) They hate anyone they can't intimidate. (f)... well, you get the point.  Al is pretty much an all-purpose collection of every sort of thing the Republicans just can't stand.

And so it is, the Strib reports, "Stalled Senate race fuels bad blood in Congress":

WASHINGTON - The spirit of bipartisan change may be coming to the White House, but so far it has eluded the new Congress, where Minnesota's U.S. Senate recount has only widened the old partisan divide.

With a few days remaining before the inauguration of Barack Obama, Democrats are holding fast to their lockdown on Republican Norm Coleman, whose office has gone semi-dark -- barred from doing anything senatorial.

Because he's not a senator anymore!

Republicans, meanwhile, have turned what they see as the mistreatment of Coleman into a fundraising pitch to defeat Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid in 2010...

Senate Democrats say their actions regarding Coleman are not personal. "This is not anything we were looking for, but it's happened and we're going to deal with it as quickly as possible," said Jim Manley, a spokesman for Majority Leader Reid.

But Senate GOP leaders take a more jaundiced view, saying Reid's hard line against Coleman threatens Obama's vision of a post-partisan 111th Congress.

Totally typical.  Any failure to kiss GOP ass "threatens Obama's vision of a post-partisan 111th Congress."  Why, if Democrats really believed in bi-partisanship, they'd all just resign from the Senate and let the GOP run the whole thing!

But I spoke of more serious consequences, and I meant it.  Because rigtht now, the future of our country hangs in the balance, and we need every powerful advocate we can get--particularly one like Al, with a talent for cutting through bullshit.  

Paul Rosenberg :: Missing Al Franken's Voice
You see, Digby has a diary today, ""Serious People" Part XXVI", which is what got me started thinking about Franken all over again.  The diary begins:

Jamison Foser's column this week is must reading. I'd begus noticing the same thing --- that the coverage of the economic crisis, in particular the gravitation to "serious" people whose track record shows that they have always been wrong about everything, is shockingly like the run-up to the Iraq war. When I watched that horrifying Pete Peterson propaganda piece on CNN last week-end, I could hardly believe I was seeing it all unfold exactly the same way --- again.

She goes on to quote a long exchange on Lou Dobbs, and then writes:

You try to untangle that rats nest because I couldn't. Apparently, the 8 trillion dollar Iraq war failed to fix the recession so Obama needs to get the private sector to create more jobs because Bill Clinton's hundred thousand police jobs didn't solve the crime problem and the jobs were lost. Oh, and the New Deal was a bust and everybody hates bailouts.

This is a particularly ugly example of the economic ignorance among the punditocrisy, but there is very little I've heard that sounds remotely convincing from our side anywhere. That is why bringing up "entitlements" and the deficit is such a threat to any successful recovery --- it's something about which people have been throughly indoctrinated and they can easily understand it. Nobody has bothered to educate them about liberal economics in decades, so when they are confused they turn to familiar refrains about how the government screws everything up and how it should be run like a business and how taxes are too high etc. Even the professionals don't know how to make a convincing case for government action in a crisis and they really need to.

Now, of course, I have no idea what Franken is going to be like as a senator.  He can't help but still be a bit funny, but he knows that being a senator is a very different role.  So we'll just have to see how it works out.  But one thing is for certain--Franken is someone who's smart, passionate, compassionate and communicative, and there's just no way on God's green earth that we don't need someone like that--someone who's already a nationally known figure--on our side and fighting back against these evil no-nothing bastards.  On top of that, I just have this sneaking suspicion that he'd do a lot better job pushing back against these bozos than most of his colleagues in the Senate.

Our country is hurting, and the peole who caused this are trying to make it hurt a whole lot more.  And we need everyone we can possibly marshall to put an end to this.  If their roles were reversed, can anyone imagine Al Franken laying back passively the way Harry Reid is right now, and letting the GOP block him from getting a new senator seated?  I don't think so.  I think that America is sorely in need of Al Franken's wit, intelligence, passion and commitment.

Not to mention his ability to point out patent absurdities and get us laughing about them.


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Another casualty of Reid's blown call on Burris (3.00 / 4)
Since Reid decided to get all technical on Burris, requiring the unnecessary certification by the Sec. of State, he is all tied up on the Franken issue and can't seat him.

Reid made this bed, now Franken is sleeping in it. Hopefully the MN courts resolve this fairly quickly, and in a fair manner. But I have a sneaking suspicion that Coleman will try to take this to the Supreme Court if he can, looking anywhere for a conservative court to just throw out the whole recount and give him his election night victory.

In which case Harry Reid would definitely have to show some balls. I hope it doesn't come to that.


That Is Why We Need (0.00 / 0)
a legislative firewall against any more Supreme Court mischief-making a la Bush v. Gore. Shitheads like Thomas and Scalia are probably itching to get involved again. We need legislation sharply limiting the purview of courts in such matters.  At least this would give us a basis for refusing to abide by another Bush v. Gore.

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Coleman is hoping to do a revote (0.00 / 0)
I don't think there is a court in this country that would grant him a victory. The best he can hope for is a revote, if it judged that the expressed will of the voters did not establish a winner on Nov 4. If that happens, I hope that everyone asks "Why was there no revote in 2000, when the presidency hung by a much thinner thread?"

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Minnesota Law anticipates no do-over (0.00 / 0)
All this speculation about a do-over election is beside the point.  Minnesota Law allows for only two methods of resolving an election -- counting the votes and re-counting them, and then if it is a true tie, the flip of a coin.  No court is going to "order" Minnesota to invent new law to resolve this election.  

If there is still dispute after the 3 judge special court examines the issues, and if that is appealed to the Supreme Court -- it will go to the US Senate.  


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Another casualty of Reid's blown call on Burris (4.00 / 2)
Since Reid decided to get all technical on Burris, requiring the unnecessary certification by the Sec. of State, he is all tied up on the Franken issue and can't seat him.

Reid made this bed, now Franken is sleeping in it. Hopefully the MN courts resolve this fairly quickly, and in a fair manner. But I have a sneaking suspicion that Coleman will try to take this to the Supreme Court if he can, looking anywhere for a conservative court to just throw out the whole recount and give him his election night victory.

In which case Harry Reid would definitely have to show some balls. I hope it doesn't come to that.


not sure how this posted twice (0.00 / 0)
sorry :)

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I Agree Completely (4.00 / 2)
I think the whole thing with Burris was just idiotic on its own terms.  And the spillover?  It should be grounds to can Reid for sheer incompetence.

"You know what they say -- those of us who fail history... doomed to repeat it in summer school." -- Buffy The Vampire Slayer, Season 6, Episode 3

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I used to listen to Al (4.00 / 10)
a lot back in his Air America days.  You listen to someone like for long enough you really get an idea of what makes them tick.  I have no doubt he's going to make a great progressive senator and will regularly drive the GOP into a frothing rage by doing nothing more that stating the obvious and telling the truth.

And oh, I really want to see the first time O'Reilly has to call him Senator Franken.  


Same here (4.00 / 3)
Al is one of my heros for taking on the right wing media thugs before it was popular. He is going to drive them batty and the villagers as well. There is some poetic justice in Al's defeating Coleman, in a slow and tortuous way, to reclaim Paul Wellstone's seat.

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Al Franken Is Not A TypicalPolitician, (4.00 / 5)
he is a people's Politician.  I absolutely agree with you that we need more senators and congressmen/women like Al.  Having read his books and listened to him on the radio, I am quite comfortable with his consistently progressive views.  And BTW, Harry Reid is one sorry excuse for a Majority Leader.  

"We can have democracy in this country, or we can have great wealth concentrated in the hands of a few, but we can't have both." - SCOTUS Justice Louis Brandeis

fundraising pitch to defeat Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid in 2010 (4.00 / 2)
actually, I would donate to that. gotta link?

~* the * Will * to go on *~

Yes, I am going to donate also (0.00 / 0)
I will donate first to any Democratic primary opponent, but, failing that, I plan to donate to his Repbulican opponent.  Whatever it takes.

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i say (0.00 / 0)
lets seat franken and get rid of reid, lets ride the wave of obama completely and get more left leaning leaders, so we can cure the nations ills and heal america inspite of the opposition from the anti-american gop and their horde of elite and bigoted supporters.

And he's JEWISH too! No wonder they hate him! (4.00 / 1)
What's that, Coleman's Jewish too?

But he's the RIGHT kind, like Specter and Cheney, so he's ok.

Heh.

"Those who stand for nothing fall for anything...Mankind are forever destined to be the dupes of bold & cunning imposture" -- Alexander Hamilton


Wikipedia sez Cheney is Methodist. (4.00 / 2)
link  

But yes, I thought of that too.  Being Jewish (along with all those other things Paul names) must be particularly infuriating because it makes him again part of an alien Them, and not the Good Conservative Us, but admitting to themselves that they don't like him for being Jewish would be uncomfortable.  For obvious reasons.  So they have to pretend to themselves that they don't hold that against him, when in their Us vs Other minds they clearly do.  And having to lie to themselves about it on his behalf makes them even more mad at him.

Boy, sucks to have a mind like that.


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Actually, I was just snarking (0.00 / 0)
I've little doubt that there's still a lot of anti-Semitism on the right, which is really just a special form of their overall bigotry and tribalism. There's a reason that members of minority groups tend to gravitate towards the left and the Democratic party, at least until they start getting rich and powerful. Racism, bigotry and classism are at the core of the right and the GOP, no matter how many faces of color they put front and center to fool the cameras.

But in this comment, I was just snarking. If Cheney were actually Jewish, I'd probably have to convert or have my Bar Mitvah revoked. But he's about as Jewish as deviled ham. (Heh.)

"Those who stand for nothing fall for anything...Mankind are forever destined to be the dupes of bold & cunning imposture" -- Alexander Hamilton


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I don't know why (0.00 / 0)
Coleman is worshiped by the Bachmann type Christian fundies. But he is.

When Franken first started his campaign he said "I'm the New York Jew who is actually from Minnesota." (He grew up in Saint Louis Park, MN. but lived in New York City. Norm grew up in Brooklyn, NY.) Norm plays well to the more stoic and proper Minnesota personality (if there is such a thing) but in reality he is the opposite. I was always afraid that Franken's perverse sense of humor, despite the decency we know him for, would doom his campaign. But in the end his tenatiousness won the election. Many more Minnesotans will grow to respect Al and I predict that he will win his next election handily.


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xchange Reid for Franken (0.00 / 0)
I don't think too many Democrats would object to trading Reid for Franken, if it happens to turn out that way. I still cannot for the life of me figure out how this ineffective and spineless toothache of a man managed to become majority leader. I imagine if the Republicans were given the option of installing their own man in the position they'd decline. Reid does their work for them and takes all the flak for it as well.

I just got through reading Why Not Me? (4.00 / 2)
If he shows a fraction of as much wit as a Senator as he did in that book, he'll make a great Senator. When Coleman gives up, anyways.

As an author, I mean (0.00 / 0)
not as his rather self-deprecating character.

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Am I missing something? (0.00 / 0)
Franken's election hasn't been certified yet, has it?  Until it has, he can't be legally seated in the Senate, can he?  So what's Reid supposed to do, seat him anyway?  He would look pretty stupid if he did, and then the Minn. courts declared Coleman the winner.  Or ordered a revote.

https://www.revisor.leg.state....

Subd. 2. Time of issuance; certain offices.

No certificate of election shall be issued until seven days after the canvassing board has declared the result of the election. In case of a contest, an election certificate shall not be issued until a court of proper jurisdiction has finally determined the contest. This subdivision shall not apply to candidates elected to the office of state senator or representative.


according to our beloved Minnesota Election Laws.... (4.00 / 2)
Look, at this juncture, everything has been done to the tittle and dot of the Minnesota Election Law so please be a bit patient and let the process move forward.  

On Friday the 3 Judge Panel set forth a schedule for the trial of the Contest.  It will begin Jan 21 with argument about Franken's motion to dismiss, and move from there.  All documents, evidence and witness lists must be filed by Jan 26th.  The Supreme Court has scheduled arguments for Franken's motion to order the Governor and the Sec of State to issue a provisional election certificate on the 5th of February.

My guess is that the court will dismiss most of Coleman's counts given Franken's motion shortly after Jan 21, hear one or two of the others, hear the motions of voters who had their ballots denied, and then issue a decision, perhaps about or shortly before Feb 5.  At that point they may well issue a decision, and order the election certificate, and then send everything to the US Senate should they wish to further the contest.  

Yes Senator Rules Committee Chair, Charlie Schumer, we are sending you 3 million ballots should you wish to recount them, plus all the notes and transcript of the canvass boards.  I think that is how the State Supreme Court will finally dispose of the matter.  Senate is judge of its own elections and credentials, -- fine.  We have it as 225 for Franken, have your hand at another recount at your expense.    


hjk (0.00 / 0)
Here we go again. Franken should not be seated. His election has not been certified by the Gov. yet. Perhaps he should be seated provisionally, but the GOP would just filibuster. And I love how you deify Franken. I'm sure that will stop when he votes in a way you don't want him to.

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