Saving, Reinvesting In Public Education

by: Paul Rosenberg

Sun Feb 01, 2009 at 14:00


In addition to his segment on Obama's Vietnam this Friday, Bill Moyers also focused on funding for public education with Vartan Gregorian.  The situation with public education is virtually identical with that of public infrastructure-30 years of underfunding and neglect, thanks largely to the movement conservative "tax revolt."  In fact, the two are really one and the same, since an educated public is the human infrastructure on which our country is built.  And conservatives don't give a damn about any of it.

BILL MOYERS: All across the country it's the same. State governments are staring down the barrel at $300 billion worth of deficits for the next two years. Twenty-six states already have either cut their budgets for higher education, raised tuition fees, or done both. When it comes to college affordability, this report from The National Center for Public Policy and Higher Education gives a failing grade of "F" to 49 of the 50 states. Tuition at public four-year colleges is up an average of more than $6,500, at two-year schools, almost $2,500. Yet even with the increases, THE CHRONICLE OF HIGHER EDUCATION reports that many college buildings are outdated, inefficient, even crumbling. So what's to be done? Some took hope when President Obama spoke up for higher education in his inaugural address.

PRESIDENT BARACK OBAMA: And we will transform our schools and colleges and universities to meet the demands of a new age.

BILL MOYERS: If the colleges and universities do wind up big winners in Washington, no one will be happier than this man, or more responsible. Long a dynamo for the cause of public education, Vartan Gregorian bears testament to the value of a lifetime of learning.... Last October, Gregorian convened a group of educators to urge whoever would become our next president to invest in higher education. Their meeting later resulted in this two-page newspaper ad, an open letter to then President-elect Obama asking that whatever economic stimulus package comes out of Washington, five percent of it - around 40 to 45 billion dollars - go to higher public education.

Considering that the Treasury and the Fed combined have already given trillions to the financial sector, $40-50 billion to higher public education is less than a pittance.  It's an insult, really.  But it's what they're asking for.

Paul Rosenberg :: Saving, Reinvesting In Public Education
First off, Gregorian does an excellent job of putting things in perspective:

BILL MOYERS: Your ad claims, "Today, only the federal government has the resources and vision to meet these threats to education." But the fact is that everybody, and I mean everybody, has both hands out, hoping that Barack Obama's stimulus spending will fill those hands. I mean, the highway industry, the automobile industry-

VARTAN GREGORIAN: Everybody.

BILL MOYERS: -the steel industry. I mean, are people like you living metaphorically in an ivory tower? Why should education be privileged when all these other priorities are pressing against the window?

VARTAN GREGORIAN: That's an excellent question. I don't have a complete answer, but I can tell you this one: Adam Smith will roll in his grave to see that capitalism says, "When I make money, it's mine; when I lose money, you have to rescue me." Right? Businesses. Business, when it becomes very big for the country, the country cannot afford for them to collapse. And that's what has happened. All the mergers that happened have come to roost now. We're too big. We may be inefficient, but we'd like you to rescue.

Education is different because you're investing human resources that are necessary to change a society, a system. Even retraining some of these people who are let go, is through education. Education is very central to our democracy. You can neglect it, you can get it on the cheap, and you get what you pay for. And if you think education is costly, try ignorance, because that will be far more costly.

Gregorian goes on to remind us that Lincoln and Roosevelt both invested in higher education in the midst of very costly and very threatening wars:

BILL MOYERS: But this country's lost two million jobs in the last year.

VARTAN GREGORIAN: Yes.

BILL MOYERS: There are millions of families out there losing their homes to foreclosure. And you're asking them to be taxed more or to print more money to support higher education, which may prove too expensive for their kids when they get there?

VARTAN GREGORIAN: Maybe. Maybe. But as an immigrant I have a different view of America. I see America in perspective. As a historian, I see the depth of it as well. And there are great moments in American history. Since President Obama is fond of Abraham Lincoln, so I'll start with Abraham Lincoln. In the middle of the Civil War, worst tragedy that happened to America, Abraham Lincoln signed Morrill Act, established land grant universities. Imagine now any president doing that in the middle of all the calamities we have, Afghanistan, Iraq, economy, and Iran and the Middle East, somebody spending that much effort on - because he wanted to see the future of America.

In the middle of Civil War, Lincoln established a National Academy of Sciences, 1863, because he wanted to see the future of America. In the middle of Civil War he established a commission to study the merits of metric system for America. Because he wanted to see not one year, one to four year; he wanted to see 20, 30, 40 years. Second thing that happened in the middle of the war. World War II, '44, Japan is still fighting, Germany's still fighting, Roosevelt established Servicemen's Act, which later became GI Bill, to see what will happen if ten to eleven million soldiers return without jobs. Would it unleash a new major depression? What? Came up with this brilliant idea to give them opportunity to be educated.

BILL MOYERS: My brother went to college after coming out of the Navy on the GI Bill and so did millions of others.

VARTAN GREGORIAN: Millions of others. Brilliant. In the middle of the war, 1945, '46, Roosevelt established Vannevar Bush commission for future of science in America, which then Truman adopted. It said science should not be based in institutions like European and Soviet, you know, these institutes. It should be based in universities. Then we have, of course, Senator Pell who just died-

BILL MOYERS: Claiborne Pell from Rhode Island, who established the Pell Grants-

VARTAN GREGORIAN: Pell Grants. Greatest democratization of process of access to higher education in our country's history. So we made many strides in the middle of adversity.

Gregorian also got down to the level of nuts and bolts, addressing the issue of eroding quality due to eroding support, happening continuously over a period of decades with little public notice:

BILL MOYERS: And yet you say in this ad, America's losing ground on a number of these very fronts.

VARTAN GREGORIAN: Number of it, because we see education as an expenditure rather than as investment. And let me just give you a couple of reasons why. My fundamental problem has been with public institutions that somehow they have come to accept the fact that democracy and excellence, public sector and excellence are not mutually compatible, that public excellence belongs to the private domain. And all my career I have fought against that concept. Whether it's New York Public Library, whether it's railway stations, whatever it is, these are monuments built in honor of democracy, 19th century, these institutions. And so one of the main things that I worry about public higher education: What is going to happen to public higher education? States' support is dwindling. Yet public has the impression that the land grant universities are providing free education to the public. That's not the case. So public higher education, most of them, cannot compete with private universities in the United States or abroad. I was worried that great universities like Michigan, University of California, University of Texas, and so on, put them in the disadvantage.

BILL MOYERS: Why?

VARTAN GREGORIAN: I think all of them are on the defensive because public expects them to accommodate them; at the same time, states see as a cost. And then they're subjected to deferred maintenance, which in my book means planned neglect. And for twenty years these have been neglected.

University of California has one of the great universities in the world. Still has in many units. University of Texas has, Penn State, Michigan, Indiana. But lack of support is going to bring them gradually to be not excellent.

BILL MOYERS: What do you mean?

VARTAN GREGORIAN:America's greatness in higher education has been its diversity and its private-public arrangement. And if we force everybody to go to private domain, then tuitions will definitely increase. Some of them will collapse.

It pains me to see all of these great universities struggling to keep their reputation. And, ironically, even though I have two sons who are journalists, one of them sports writer - if a football team loses in one of these state universities, for two or three years it affects also their funding in the legislature, which is crazy.

BILL MOYERS: Guarantee a winning football team.

VARTAN GREGORIAN: It's crazy. It does not make sense.

Talk about the tail wagging the dog!

Conservatives are right about one thing: Western civilization is in danger.  America's greatness is in danger.  The only problem is, they are the ones responsible for the danger.  They are the subversive other they have always been terrified of.


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they want money? who do they think they are? (0.00 / 0)
wall street?

Just so you know, higher ed is the recipient of (4.00 / 1)
job training funds big time.  People are unemployed and seeking higher degrees trying to be more employable.  The Trade Adjustment Assistance Act is in full swing dumping federal resources into tuitions as fast as it can.  It is also up for reauthorization, and it is expected to be broadened to include service workers who have been negatively impacted and dislocated as a result of foreign trade.  This is in addition to the regular WIA dollars for Dislocated Workers and low income adults.

People are going to school in droves in an attempt to do something to improve their employment prospects.  


And Yet, Enrollments Are Being Slashed (0.00 / 0)
I'm afraid what you're talking about is no match--at least so far--for the larger squeezing of state governments that's currently under way.

"You know what they say -- those of us who fail history... doomed to repeat it in summer school." -- Buffy The Vampire Slayer, Season 6, Episode 3

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What enrollments? (4.00 / 1)
In Michigan, enrollments are through the roof.  MI is giving all unemployed and underemployed up to 10K up to two years to get and/or finish a degree/grad degree.  That's in addition to the Trade dollars going to trade impacted workers.  

This may be unique to our state because we have had so many unemployed for so much longer than the rest of the country, and we have no place else for them to go.  


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Here In California (4.00 / 1)
The Gropenator has been at war with the entire educational system since his first months in office.  Most recently, the LA Times reported, mid-January:

UC cuts freshman enrollment for fall by 6%
The hardest-hit campuses, Irvine and San Diego, will see 12% reductions. Berkeley's class will grow 1.7% and Merced's 17%. Numbers of community college transfers will be allowed to rise.

By Larry Gordon
January 15, 2009

Saying they could not avoid a painful decision, University of California regents voted Wednesday to trim freshman enrollment for next fall by 2,300 students, or about 6%, as a response to reduced state funding during the worsening budget crisis.

"None of us likes this," regents Chairman Richard Blum said of the student cut. But he placed responsibility for the action on state legislators, particularly Republicans opposed to tax increases. "For those who want to yell, go yell at Sacramento," Blum said.

Under the plan, six of UC's nine undergraduate campuses will see significant cuts to their ranks of California freshmen in the fall. UC Irvine and UC San Diego, the hardest hit, are slated for reductions of about 12%, or 550 and 520 slots respectively, because they enrolled more than their targeted number of students in recent years, officials said. At four other campuses, the cuts range from about 10% at UC Riverside to 6.6% at UC Santa Barbara.




"You know what they say -- those of us who fail history... doomed to repeat it in summer school." -- Buffy The Vampire Slayer, Season 6, Episode 3

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How can they tell the schools (0.00 / 0)
they can't enroll anyone?  I understand how they can limit state aid, but I don't understand how or why they would limit enrollments.  All that job training money in the stimulus needs a place to go.  If you don't have ample school capacity to spend all of the money that is going to come to California, you will forfeit it.  I sure, however, that the rest of the states will appreciate it.  

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Well, The UC Campuses Don't Do "Job Training" Per Se (0.00 / 0)
Cal Poly, CSU, and the community colleges do.  But they've been getting whacked hard as well.  Even if they add some classes, others are suffering.

"You know what they say -- those of us who fail history... doomed to repeat it in summer school." -- Buffy The Vampire Slayer, Season 6, Episode 3

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It isn't "job training". (0.00 / 0)
It is only paid for with job training funds.  What we are buying with that money in Michigan is Associate, Bachelor and Master degrees in occupational growth areas.  People are attending Walsh College, Michigan State, U of M, and other local public and private 4 year universities. We are funding nursing degrees,  masters in accounting, software skill upgrades to transistion automotive engineers to defense, aerospace, and film, etc. 3D design is a growing occupation in MI.  

We do buy traditional job training certificate programs from the community colleges and private training schools as well; but they are insufficient and cannot stand alone when attempting to upgrade and develop a state's workforce. MI Gov. Granholm is serious about diversifying and upgrading its workforce.  If someone is unemployed or employed and family income is under 40K, they get a 10K grant, not loan, to go to school.   What it doesn't want to do is lower its standard of living to compete against the likes of Tennessee and other right to work state.

Your gropenator is a fool.  I can't believe CA elected him.  


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Yet another nail in the conservative/free market coffin (4.00 / 2)
Under its "care" (which was actually never really conservative OR free market, but who's counting), the economy was restructured towards generating maximal near-term profits for a relatively small number of people, and in doing so reduced the effective income and quality of live of the majority of people (many of whom aren't even living in the US), impoverished millions, caused massive damage to, or failed to properly maintain, our physical, economic, health, educational, cultural and scientific infrastucture, and, ironically, the economy itself in the end. It was the economic equivalent of clear-cutting an old growth rain forest and farming it to the point of turning it into an arid wasteland--and then demanding that the locals chip in to help prevent the people who did it from falling into financial ruin.

Why are we even entertaining the idea of bailing these assholes out? They caused massive damage to the country through their selfishness and idiocy, and don't even know what they're doing. Obviously, we need to keep banks and financial firms around in one form or another as they do serve a necessary purpose (our economy depends on capital and liquidity, like it or not). But why do we have to keep the people who destroyed these institutions, and the economy and thus everything else, around to wreak yet more havoc? And why do we have to keep catering to their congressional and ideological water carriers, who keep ranting about free markets and socialism and tax cuts tax cuts tax cuts? Just shove them the hell aside and do what needs to be done. Bail out the financial system, throw out the financiers, and fix the economy and our infrastructure, in all of its forms.

IOW: Duh.

"Those who stand for nothing fall for anything...Mankind are forever destined to be the dupes of bold & cunning imposture" -- Alexander Hamilton


The conservative formula for education: (4.00 / 2)
Prep school for the elite, jail school for the incorrigible, Bible schools for everyone else.

They've come awful close to achieving it, too.

Montani semper liberi


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