AFL-CIO claims Franken is 60th vote on Employee Free Choice

by: Chris Bowers

Wed Mar 04, 2009 at 13:42


A bold claim:

Al Franken could be the missing piece of the puzzle for passage of the labor movement's No. 1 legislative priority this Congress, a senior union official said Wednesday.

Once seated, the Democratic Minnesota Senate candidate would be the 60th vote for cloture in the Senate on the Employee Free Choice Act (EFCA), said Bill Samuel, director of government affairs for the AFL-CIO.

"That is likely to be the case. We are not giving up on other senators," Samuel said. "In the very worst case, we are going to have to have Al Franken."

This is certainly plausible, and wold make more sense why Republicans are fighting tooth and nail on a court case that is seemingly lost cause of them. The Employee Free Choice Act scored 51 votes for cloture in 2007. Throw in Democratic Senator Tim Johnson, who was sick at the time, and that makes 52. Add seven more freshman Democrats in Congress who took over Republican held seats--Mark Begich, Kay Hagan, Jeff Merkley, Mark Udall, Tom Udall, and Mark Warner--and EFCA support rises to 59. And then, only Al Franken, plus holding all 2007 voters in line, pushes EFCA over the top and into law.

Labor reform, media reform, immigration reform, election reform--these are some of the policy areas that can shift the major institutions of our country to the left. As far as building long-term progressive governance is concerned, passing these positive feedback loops into law is second in importance only to saving the economy through a re-organization of public spending.

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THAT Will Certainly Help Break The Congressional Logjam (4.00 / 2)
about seating him...

chuy...throw some MORE chum in the water why doncha?


Wait a second, here (0.00 / 0)
Throw in Democratic Senator Tim Johnson, who was sick at the time, and that makes 52. Add seven more freshman Democrats in Congress who took over Republican held seats--Mark Begich, Kay Hagan, Jeff Merkley, Mark Udall, Tom Udall, and Mark Warner--and EFCA support rises to 59. And then, only Al Franken, plus holding all 2007 voters in line, pushes EFCA over the top and into law.

How can you count those votes?

Begich, Johnson, Mark Udall, and Mark Warner were part of the 'gang of 14' that got together to cut the stimulus.

Remember?

YESTERDAY!

Chuy.


and (4.00 / 1)
that's a total lie.

Begich and Johnson did not participate in the "Gang of 18" on the stimulus.

Mark Warner is the only one not on the record in favor of EFCA

Begich: For it
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v...

Johnson co-sponsored it.

Udall is for it as well
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v...

Making up stuff to fit your bitter little world doesn't make it true.  

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Here, Test your reading skills (0.00 / 0)
on this. The prose is real easy.

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On Specter and Bennet (4.00 / 2)
The Republicans believe Specter will vote yea on EFCA cloture and passage, which I think is probably correct.

However, Michael Bennet might turn tail, even if Udall does vote for cloture and passage (which I believe he will).


I think its presumptive to assume (0.00 / 0)
all the new Ds in the Senate will support EFCA. Specter has previously shown support so there's probably room to lose 1, but either way, with the pressure thats gonna come down it will require some arm twisting to get all Ds to fall in line.  

All but Warner (4.00 / 4)
publicly stated many times that they favored EFCA. Warner wants to be President, freshmen D's won't be a problem except maybe the appointees, but I can't imagine they'd want to lose so quickly.  

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Yeah Warner concerns (4.00 / 1)
me. He's never really taken on tough issues and has been a consensus type of guy, thats why he was popular with republicans in Virginia. I'm also concerned with Michael Bennet who has shown signs of being shaky when it comes to supporting EFCA. I wasn't aware Begich and Hagan were for EFCA, thats good to hear cause they concerned me as well.  

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Don't forget Roland Burris (4.00 / 3)
He refuses to take a stand on EFCA which is absurd and appalling.

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What?? (4.00 / 4)
Are you kidding me?? I hope he isn't trying to be machiavellian and trying to hold this over the heads of Durbin and co in case they pressure him to not run in 2010. Being from illinois and considering whose seat he's taking, he better be for EFCA. Not to mention being an AA, you'd bee retarded to be against it.  

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I wish I was kidding (0.00 / 0)
The AFL-CIO and SEIU are enraged about it.

He's an ass.


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Warner wanted to be president (4.00 / 2)
in 2008, I'm sure he'll want to be president in 2016. Senators have advisers, even if he doesn't like EFCA I don't think they'll let him sabotage his chances at becoming president over EFCA.

Bennet will lose his primary if he votes against EFCA, he's already got a strong potential opponent who would get heavy labor backing if Bennet votes no, again, his advisers will understand reality.

Burris is the one I'm really not sure about, he's just crazy enough to vote no. Who knows.  

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Yeah..EFCA is such a partisan issue (4.00 / 3)
that any democrat voting against it is basically begging to get primaried.

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Bennet has no record (0.00 / 0)
Bennet has held a number of high level appointed positions and worked for a billionaire wheeler dealer, Phil Anschutz.  There really is mothing to go by except his reluctance on this issue.

Go to Square State or look up Bennet or even Anschutz and nothing comes up.  Bennet was apparently an expert at cutting "without firing people" and did it at four companies owned by Anschutz (three of them theater chains).

He's been young, smart and very connected so far.


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don't have 60 (0.00 / 0)
inside sources state that blanche lincoln and spector have both dropped support and are looking for a compromise.  

Specter is not a surprise.... (4.00 / 1)
...nor is Lincoln.  If we waited until after the primary, we could get Specter, but not before...

We might need to break this thing up into two parts...

If we can get a "compromise" that is similar to the compromise on cramdown then we are still ahead in a big way... but, Harry Reid is no Nancy Pelosi...

REID: Voting against us was never part of our arrangement!
SPECTER: I am altering the deal! Pray I don't alter it any further!
REID: This deal keeps getting worse all the time!


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No way (4.00 / 3)
In the senate a 'compromise' would amount to corporations still managing to bust unions by going through a hoop or two first. EFCA has always seemed, to me, non-negotiable in what it means, you're either for it or against it.  

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not as written (0.00 / 0)
EFCA will not go through as written...Guaranteed!!!
there is way to much opposition, pressure, and publicity.  Given the current ecomomic conditions and the unions being in the limelight with UAW and now AA pilots, this will be an uphill battle.  There are no republican senators onboard and some democratic senators now wavering as it gets closer to introduction.

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"Publicity"? (4.00 / 1)
Publicity is actually good for EFCA - the reason corporate and Republican opponents keep lying about it ("they're taking away the secret ballot!") is because they can't win on the merits.

Also, increased unionization is good for the economy - nothing could help us get out of this mess faster than restoring strong wages, which unions do for union members and non-union members.


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Endgame (0.00 / 0)
So what is the endgame on Franken lawsuits? I'm reading John Grisham's The Chamber, where there are a million last-minute "gangplank" appeals for people on death row, Supreme Court stays, Court of Appeals stays, clemency appeals, etc. which is why it takes a million years to finally move forward on an execution. Is it the same case in election law? When are Coleman/NRSC's options exhausted?

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Trial (4.00 / 3)
will probably be over in around 3 weeks. It's possible that he could appeal it to the MN Supreme Court, maybe even federal appeals courts and then the Supreme Court. We'll see.  

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