Anonymous Democratic Aides: "What in the world are they thinking? "

by: Matt Stoller

Fri Sep 07, 2007 at 13:14


Tom Edsall reports on the reception our pressure on Democrats is generating.  Insiders are not happy.

A House Democratic leadership aide told the Huffington Post, "We understand their frustration, but we need to elect more Democrats in order to affect real change on Iraq." Another top Democratic leadership aide said, "What in the world are they thinking? All this is going to do is increase the possibility of electing more Republicans. Instead of going after Democrats, they should be focusing their efforts on pressuring Republicans to break with the president.

In private, many in the House and Senate leadership contend that if more liberal candidates defeat incumbent conservative and centrist Democrats in primaries, many of them representing Southern and Midwestern constituencies, the chances of a Republican victory in the general election sharply increase.

The MoveOn survey comes on the heels of the anti-"Bush Dog" campaign on the Open Left website created by Chris Bowers, Matt Stoller and Mike Lux.

The "Bush Dogs" -- a play on the "Blue Dog" Democrats, a caucus of center-conservative Democrats -- is made up of the 39 House Democrats who voted on May 24 in favor of the Iraq emergency supplemental appropriation and on August 4 in favor of the "Protect America Act" expanding the administration's power to use warrantless wiretaps.

It's instructive that Edsall couldn't get anyone to on the record using their own names.  Then again, activists do love being attacked by anonymous insiders enmeshed in a bureaucratic hierarchy.

Matt Stoller :: Anonymous Democratic Aides: "What in the world are they thinking? "

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No, they don't understand (4.00 / 1)
That's my first reaction.  No, they don't understand our frustration--not the depth of it, not at all. Nor do they understand the dire situation the Bush/Cheney regime has put the country in.  They haven't understood it at all.  If they did, they wouldn't be so dismissive.

John McCain--He's not who you think he is.

It's good to be thought a threat... (0.00 / 0)
(If, indeed, these blind quotes are kosher - accurate and sincere. Mmm...sincere...)

At least the netroots' existence is being acknowledged.

But - like I said (at considerable length), regulars always hate insurgents. For perfectly understandable reasons of self-interest.

Insiders - MCs, staffers, consultants - welcoming the netroots into the fold would be like health insurers getting behind single-payer. That they don't is dog bites man news.

And, like Edsall says, this isn't ideological: poll the Progs and - my guess - you'd find a majority opposed to the MoveOn email primary idea.

The whole point - the biggest point, at least - of a Congressional political party is that, by pooling sovereignty, MCs get much more than they could without one.  Go along to get along wasn't invented by Mr Sam.

Insurgents are not necessarily what many of the netroots would regard (sigh!) as white hats. Progs may well fear that institutionalizing the interest-group-organized primary challenge might lead to some of them getting the treatment by and by.


What's the difference? (0.00 / 0)
Between what we have now in a Democratic Congress, versus the one previous that was controlled by the GOP, vis a vis Iraq and civil liberties? Nothing. So why on earth should we be worried about losing some BushDogs to actual Republicans? (Of course, the main premise of their argument- that a progressive can't win in BushDog districts- is absolute crap.)

I swear that the DC Dems lose IQ points on an hourly basis.


Sorry (0.00 / 0)
If that was a bit incoherent. It is just that my level of rage impedes my ability to write well.

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Pressure (0.00 / 0)
I love this quote from a Democratic "leadership" aide:  "Instead of going after Democrats, they should be focusing their efforts on pressuring Republicans to break with the president."

Isn't that the job of our elected representatives?  Why can't they pressure the Republicans?  Are they afraid of being called bad names?  Why can't they stand up and make an argument?  What are we paying them to do?

And this one:  "We understand their frustration, but we need to elect more Democrats in order to affect real change on Iraq." 

How many more Democrats?  Can we get a promise that if we get to 55 Senators they'll maybe grow some spine?

And does that mean that there will be no real change on Iraq until January 2009?  Why didn't they tell us that when they were asking us to contribute and volunteer in 2006?

Then again, maybe they're just playing us the way the Wall Street Republicans play the pro-lifers.

Voter Genome Project


Translation: (0.00 / 0)
I love this quote from a Democratic "leadership" aide:  "Instead of going after Democrats, they should be focusing their efforts on pressuring Republicans to break with the president."

Isn't that the job of our elected representatives?

Shorter "leadership" aide: Do my job, don't steal my job!

"You know what they say -- those of us who fail history... doomed to repeat it in summer school." -- Buffy The Vampire Slayer, Season 6, Episode 3


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Pure fear in this (4.00 / 1)
"Instead of going after Democrats, they should be focusing their efforts on pressuring Republicans to break with the president."

Pelosi's aide Dan Bernal said exactly those words to a group I was part of in May. It's just a talking point to cover the inability of the leadership to deliver the majority of the Democratic caucus against Bush. If they tried, really tried, for example by not passing Iraq funding or by not bringing up FISA-gutting eavesdropping enabling, they think they'd be overthrown by their Democratic members.

Can it happen here?


The Problem Is (0.00 / 0)
Simply the lack of honesty.

I mean, I could understand the jam that Pelosi might feel she's in.  If she would talk about it honestly.  But this talking point BS....

The last thing that would ever occur to her, apparently, is that she might want to work with us to change the dynamic.

"You know what they say -- those of us who fail history... doomed to repeat it in summer school." -- Buffy The Vampire Slayer, Season 6, Episode 3


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Wouldn't some straightforward honesty be nice! (0.00 / 0)
Would never occur to Pelosi to work with us. Because she has never had to worry about re-election, almost from day one, her advancement path and constituency has been the other members of Congress. Constituents are an annoying inconvenience. And she's not a terrible person, and even advocates some good policies, but this is the reality. I took a stab at explaining Pelosi's trajectory in this historical piece.

Can it happen here?

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I Dont Think They're An Annoying Inconvenience To Her (0.00 / 0)
I just think that it's a whole different way of thinking about politics that she simply has never considered.  And coming from the sort of political family she comes from, there's a great deal of habit and tradition all going the other way.

"You know what they say -- those of us who fail history... doomed to repeat it in summer school." -- Buffy The Vampire Slayer, Season 6, Episode 3

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"What are they thinking?" (0.00 / 0)
Well, let's see.

How about standing up on Iraq?
How about standing up against the plutocracy that Washington has turned into?








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