Republicans Divided

by: Daniel De Groot

Sun Mar 08, 2009 at 21:17


From Newsweek's poll released Friday, a picture of the Republican party's difficulties going forward:


Do you think Republican leaders in Congress are in touch with the way the average Republican thinks and feels, or not?
BASED ON REPUBLICANS
DateYes, in touchNo, not in touchDK
3/4-5/0944524
1/21-22/9960328



Is it your impression that Republicans who have opposed Barack Obama's economic proposals have a plan of their own for turning the economy around, or not?
GroupYes, have a planNo, do notDK
Dem22726
Ind295813
Rep454213
All315811



Do you think Barack Obama has made a reasonable effort to work with and listen to Congressional Republicans, or not?
GroupYes, hasNo, has notDK
Dem9163
Ind67276
Rep52426
All71245

Analysis inside...

Daniel De Groot :: Republicans Divided
  • Republicans think their own party is out of touch with them.  It's hard to know exactly what they're looking for since this is the remnants of the GOP now that all the moderates are now independents or Democrats.  Every Republican leader seems to have adopted the "we lost because we weren't true conservatives" k?an, and another question in the poll finds the plurality of Republicans think the leaders aren't conservative enough, so what exactly are they looking for?

  • Their own party doesn't think they have a plan.  Maybe this is where the ludicrous spending freeze idea came from, a Homer Simpson level "quick we need a plan!" panic.  Funny thing is, I'd be in the 22% of Democrats saying they do have a plan - more tax and regulation cuts.  I like the idea that 42% of Republicans don't consider this to be "a plan" anymore.

  • Republicans know Obama actually did reach out.  A majority of them concede Obama did try to reach out.  The leadership has really lost their grip that a majority of their own party sees the President from the other party reaching out.  For those that defended Obama's strategy in the stim bill, perhaps this is vindication, though I still think the bill being too small to be effective is a large price to pay just to put Republicans at odds with their own leadership.  

The worst news in this poll is that there is still only one broadly popular Republican:


PersonFavorableUnfavorableNever Heard OfDK/Can't Rate
Sarah Palin4442311
House Minority Leader John Boehner21174418
Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell23164120
Louisiana Governor Bobby Jindal23224114
Minnesota Governor Tim Pawlenty16125220
Radio Talk Show Host Rush Limbaugh2746621
John McCain5537*8

John McCain is the sole well known, nationally popular Republican.  Unfortunately the poll didn't break out party affiliation for McCain's favourability ratings, because I suspect he is less popular among Republicans than other groups.  

The number of people who still don't know who either Boehner or McConnell are is important to note too.  Back in 2006 we laughed at Republicans for trying to make a big deal about Pelosi becoming Speaker, but almost no one knew who she was, so it didn't work.  While the debate over the soundness of picking on Limbaugh continues, it is clear in one regard he was a better target than the Congressional leadership, if only because the country knows who Rush is.


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This Poll Was Made For Nelson Muntz (0.00 / 0)
Ha! Ha!

"You know what they say -- those of us who fail history... doomed to repeat it in summer school." -- Buffy The Vampire Slayer, Season 6, Episode 3

Aside from that (4.00 / 4)
And I am enjoying the scheudenfreude, it is weird that the base feels the leadership is out of touch and not conservative enough while they're proposing spending freezes, tax cuts, less regulation and obstructing everything Democrats do while mentioning Reagan every 6 words on TV.  I'm not sure how they could possibly be more conservative.

Conservativism has apparently reached some kind of apex of incoherence where there is no approach that conservatives will agree is conservative.  They've become the ideological equivalent of an MC Escher drawing.  


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You Need To Have All The Cross-Tabs (4.00 / 1)
I agree that the incoherence level has crossed some sort of mystic threshold.  But, I'd still want to see the cross-tabs to see if any shreds of sense can be made out of the remaining entrails.

"You know what they say -- those of us who fail history... doomed to repeat it in summer school." -- Buffy The Vampire Slayer, Season 6, Episode 3

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Rush less popular than atheists (4.00 / 6)
the new National Election Study data is out and this little nugget caught my eye. The NES traditional does feeling thermometers for various political figures and groups in society. The lower the number, the more disliked he/she is or they are. The higher the number, the more liked he/she is or they are. Here are the mean readings for some selected individuals and groups.

No wonder the Democrats are going after Rush Limbaugh, he's less popular than gays, atheists, or Muslims. Even George W. Bush beats him and illegal immigrants aren't far behind.

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LOL... (4.00 / 2)
In a country as intolerant as the US, especially when dealing with Islam post 9-11, the fact that Rush is less popular than Muslims is hilarious.

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it looks like 2009 (4.00 / 2)
will be giving like xmas all year long, a 365 day celebration at least from my perspective. its long overdue for liberals and the nation as a whole, and i might add we all deserve the party, we have worked long and hard and earned it, as has our wounded, depleted, country.

The most important poll was on Nov 4 (4.00 / 2)
I think a lot of people like John McCain, but having him as president is another story.

And I don't think we need to worry about him in 2012, by which time his dementia should be far enough along to be painfully obvious -- if the cancer doesn't get him before then.

"Ignorance is the most dangerous element in any society." - Emma Goldman


most definitely (0.00 / 0)
I am not worried about McCain.  I am bemused that he is the sole figure that the nation doesn't despise with an (R) after his name.  After 2004, Kerry more or less faded into the woodwork, but Democrats still had popular/famous figures in Edwards, Kennedy, both Clintons, Carter, Gore and even that Obama fellow.  GOP is stuck with McCain.

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Limbo (4.00 / 3)
How low cam you go?  

Well after the 1936 elections (which marked four straight cycles where the Republicans lost ground, Republicans were down to 88 House seats and 16 Senate seats.  Quite possibly, the recession of 1937 daved the Republicans from extinction.

At 178 and 41, there is plenty of room to drop.  Even reaching the post 1964 e;ection total of 140 House members or the post Wayergate figure of 143 while possible would require more losing.

Will the GOP follow Limbaugh and do the limbo?


You're Right (4.00 / 3)
Numerically, there is obviously much lower they can go. But the degree of weirdness now is something else again.  It's roughly on the level of the Know-Nothing or Anti-Masonic parties, and still seems to just be getting started.

"You know what they say -- those of us who fail history... doomed to repeat it in summer school." -- Buffy The Vampire Slayer, Season 6, Episode 3

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