The Common Good

by: Chris Bowers

Mon Mar 09, 2009 at 16:00


How often does Congress vote on spending bills that only impact one congressional district?  The answer is almost never.  Members of Congress almost always write and vote on legislation that impacts the entire country, not only their own personal district.  In fact, the entire reason we have a federal Congress is to pass laws that impact more than one state.  If there were no such laws, there would be no need for a national legislative body.

Here is another question: when Hurricane Katrina hit the Gulf Coast, would it have been appropriate for members of Congress not from the Gulf Coast to vote down all spending for relief and rebuilding efforts, because such efforts disproportionately benefited districts in the Gulf Coast?  Should members of Congress from outside the New York and Washington, D.C. metropolitan areas have voted down 9/11 relief effort because their congressional districts did not receive proportional benefit from the aid?  Should we not have declared war on Japan in December of 1941 because they only attacked Hawaii?

And here is another question: did Congressman Eric Massa serve in the Armed Forces only because he thought such service would disproportionately benefit New York's Southern Tier?  And when Captain Massa ran for Congress, did he refuse all contributions from people living outside his district, including help from the DCCC and other groups which are not based in his district?

And when 8,100,000 American families are facing foreclsoure over the next four years, is it appropriate for a member of Congressto vote against a housing bill because his district is facing only 7,048 foreclosures, which is less than 1 out of every 435 of all foreclosures? As I discuss in the extended entry, this is not a hypothetical question.

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The reason I ask these questions is because, last week, Congressman Massa voted against a housing bill that he believed would help prevent foreclosures because, according to his press release, Massa "didn't think the Housing bill delivered a proportionally fair amount of relief to the families of my district" and was instead "largely targeted to States like California, Nevada and Florida."  He believes there is a "housing crisis" (his words), and that the bill would "benefit" people facing foreclosure (again, his words).  However, because the housing crisis is more severe in other congressional districts than the NY-29 (which is true), and thus the bill would benefit those areas of the country hardest hit by the housing crisis, somehow the housing crisis is not his fraking problem?

This is simply inappropriate behavior for a member of Congress, a legislative body which is supposed to be working for the common good.  It is also inappropriate behavior for a Democrat to argue that legislation is bad only because is helps people outside of your own demographic group.  Conservatives have successfully attacked government programs for decades by arguing, or at least regularly implying, to white people that the government programs disproportionately benefit non-whites.  Massa employs nearly identical reasoning here, looking out only for his own people rather than working toward a common good.  Government spending that disproportionately impacts "other people" is labeled as waste, while spending that helps "your people" is considered necessary.

We--Americans--are all in this one together. One region of the country is not going to recover from our current economic mess while all others languish behind.  Without a national recovery, there will be no recovery at all.  Can someone explain how one region, one state, or one congressional district will avoid an economic catastrophe affecting all other regions, states and districts?  I can't.  Once we stop looking out for the common good, and start adopting an attitude of "everyone for him or herself," as Congressman Massa did here, then even any hope of national recovery is lost.

Congressman Massa's vote on the housing bill was pretty bad, but his reasoning for his vote was even worse.  If he doesn't consider people facing foreclosure in California, Nevada, or Florida to be any of his concern, he better hope that people from California, Nevada, and Florida don't feel the same way about Western New York.  Once it becomes everyone for herself, the only way this ends is when everyone is ruined.


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mistake (0.00 / 0)
Your example of Pearl Harbor is poorly chosen, since of course the battleships that were attacked were named after states of the Union.

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Gee (0.00 / 0)
If only members of Congress would vote down bills that unequally benefit the folks in Jerrold Nadler's district!


It's so dumb (4.00 / 1)
If he had just voted Nay, and left it at that, or even made some other sorta lame excuse (e.g. "I'm worried about the cost."), it wouldn't have been a huge deal. It passed pretty easily without his vote, so it could have been a "freebie" so he could show his "independence".

But this excuse is so stupid. It's like he's actively looking to say the stupidest possible thing to say.

It's also short-sighted, as there is reason to believe that New York just happens to be a bit behind the curve in terms of the housing bubble collapse and may see a more severe hit in the near future.

Conduct your own interview of Sarah Palin!


Conservative (4.00 / 5)
I think this could serve as a pretty good definition of modern Conservatism: "I refuse to acknowledge the value of a common good if there's nothing in it for me."

Massa is evidently in the wrong party.


There thats succinmct and pointed and direct. (0.00 / 0)
I can't think of a shorter way to put it.

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The government has a defect: it's potentially democratic. Corporations have no defect: they're pure tyrannies. -Chomsky


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Isn't this a global economic meltdown? (0.00 / 0)
"We--Americans--are all in this one together."

If we're gonna start pointing out that "local" politics can work against the common good (sentiment with which I agree), then why not extend the common good to include the rest of the humans around the world?  

"It sounds wrong...
     ...but its right."


I'm shocked that gambling is going on in the casino. (0.00 / 0)
Few people admit it so brazenly as congressman Massa, but come on, Chris.  Am I the only person who remembers that they made a component of the B2 Stealth Bomber in 200+ congressional districts because it would help ensure its funding?  As a native of Massachusetts, am I shocked to see my congresscritters push for more funding for high technology and medicine (= the big local industries)?

Are we surprised that the Democrats most actively fighting better fuel economy represent districts in which gas-guzzlers are made?  Or that people who represent farm states are the ones who push farm subsidies.

Rather than be honest Eric Massa, most of these people feel obligated to spew horseshit like "Americans WANT to drive gas guzzlers." or "This weapon system is all that holds the commies...err...terrorists at bay!"

I just don't see the big deal here.


You would have a point... (4.00 / 1)
...if slowing the avalanche of foreclosures had anything in common with building a obscenely expensive deathcraft.

One is a common good.  The other is flying metal penis.


[ Parent ]
My question is: When does he come off the ActBlue site? (4.00 / 1)


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The government has a defect: it's potentially democratic. Corporations have no defect: they're pure tyrannies. -Chomsky


Considering Shuler and Ellsworth are there (4.00 / 1)
my guess is going to be...never.  

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And when Captain Massa ran for Congress, (0.00 / 0)
did he refuse all contributions from people living outside his district?

Hell no.  I made a couple of small contributions to him, and last week I got mail from him asking me to help him get ready for next time.  I stopped contributing to him because he was among the largest donation recipients on Act Blue, and I thought there were others who needed money more.  

This is fairly typical, though.  Contribute to someone who runs from outside your state or district, and you'll be getting Halloween cards with pictures of their kids in costume, that start out, "Dear friend,".

But actually write them a postcard or letter on an issue, and they never heard of you.  The classic examples are Jim Webb and Claire McCaskill, who don't even bother to answer with a form letter, but still keep the fund-raising requests coming.

So Massa's acting like a jerk.  I kind of thought he might be a jerk.  But at least he's not a Republican jerk.


To be fair .. (0.00 / 0)
I contributed money to Jim Webb's PAC(since his campaign was over and didn't know if the campaign was still collecting money) after his response to Dubya's SOTU .. and I did get a form letter thank you.

[ Parent ]
Let me tell you a story: (4.00 / 1)
I had a friend, back in 2002 who wanted to run for the Missouri State House.  He was "pro-union", moderate on social issues, etc.  As far as I knew, fairly liberal.  One day he invites me to a fundraiser at Jim Talent's house.  I ask why he chose Republican.  He says he lives in a Republican district and with 9-11 and all and this is a good chance for him to get elected.  I ask him what he believes, and he is honest, and says, "whatever gets me elected".  So this guy morphs into a right wnger against what I know to be his beliefs, and with the help of Quixtar, I may get into that later, wins as a Republican.  I refuse to attend his fundraiser and even talk to him.  

My point is sometimes people are whatever gets them the power.  I do not know Massa, or Shuler.  But I wonder if their being Democrats had more to do with opportunity than beliefs.  And if so, maybe we need to screen our candidates a littbe bit harder to make sure who they are as people is more important than what office they are trying to win.

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[ Parent ]
Ding, ding ding. Correct. They are "opportunists". (4.00 / 2)
I find that a lot of Democrats in the West here are "business opportunists" with a bit of populist flair or libertarians. They also do not have a highly developed standard of ethics.  

[ Parent ]
I don't know know Massa but I do know Schuler (0.00 / 0)
Schuler ws recruited by Rahm and during his campaign he used to say he could run as a Republican in TN or a Democrat in NC.  Rahm offered him a better deal in helping him get elected. He was open to either party but went to the highest bidder.

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upstate NY is depressed and has been for ages -- (0.00 / 0)
the reason there isn't a foreclosure problem in his district is because house values have only dropped -- and jobs disappeared -- and help from DC hasn't gone to the region in decades -- like tons of other regions --  the whole rust belt, for instance.

His priority is first and foremost to deliver for his constituents -- like it is for all Reps. And there was no way that bill would fail to pass in the House, so his vote didn't hurt anyone at all in reality.

And that bill sucks -- it was designed not to help those who need help most and is very very restricted, and it forces people to declare bankruptcy which hurts them even more -- and it doesn't even mandate or require that Judges actually fix mortgages for all who come before them.

A ton of other Reps voted against it too -- i don't think they all don't believe in the common good -- many votes aren't even cast with the common good in mind ever and tons of legislation is passed every year that intentionally hurts the common good and the country.


and people in the hardest-hit areas are mostly ineligible for this help -- (0.00 / 0)
their home values are way too low compared to their mortgages -- there's a 105% limit for most of the help the bill is supposed to provide.

and the bill rewards lenders and servicers far far more than it does homeowners in trouble.


[ Parent ]
I think it's (0.00 / 0)
called the Golden Rule: do unto others as you'd have them do unto you.

See also Categorical Imperative.

Maybe Massa could have The Bible summarized in bullets on a Powerpoint slide for busy Congresscritters?


Agreed (4.00 / 1)
Massa's vote and the reasoning behind that vote is simply inexcusable.  

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Games Congresspersons Play (0.00 / 0)
Of course, the common good is more important than any one district, state, ethnic group, profession, etc.  I agree with Chris'es point, as far as it goes...  I'll just make two other points.

1. Congresspeople don't like to be taken for granted.  An occasional willingness to vote differenty than expected is one way to maintain a little leverage and keep the leadership & the White House guessing. I think this is wrong.  Every vote should be on the merits.  There may be, however, method in Massa's madness on this particular vote.  

2.  A vote is a vote.  It's why we work so darn hard to elect these people.  I decided a long time ago to judge people on lots of votes and lots of issues and on leadership.  If people in the netroots decide that a particular Congresscritter had a bad record on the whole, then oppose him or her.  If somebody has only a fair record, then direct efforts to higher priorities.  They do deserve to be judged as a whole politician, not as a checklist for whom one black mark is a dealbreaker.  For example, I've disagreed with several of Russ Feingold's votes over the years but long ago he earned my strong support.    


Another Bush-Dog Fightin' Dem shows his true nature (0.00 / 0)
Finding metaphors to highlight the illogic of Massa's self-serving arguments against supporting a fundamentally democratic (little "D") bill that attempts to fight against a tsunami of bad economic factors crashing over the nation .. seems almost trivial. A more fundamental view would be that if help isn't provided to those millions under financial distress the entire nation, including Massa's district, will suffer and likely suffer for a needlessly extended period of time. Perhaps as much as a decade or more, if Japan is used as an example for comparison.

OK. I'll do it too. It's like the shoulder bitching about paying for medicine for a sick and possibly dying liver.

The real issue from my view is the blind support people like Eric Massa received from the "left." He was one of the original "fightin' Dems" who weren't really Democrats but were supported because they rebranded themselves as Democrats and their military background could be used as a shield against the Republican meme of "weak on defense" anti-American Democrats.

Simply, Massa was a Reagan Republican. He even said so himself. He was a disciple of Jim Webb, who in my view is an eventual Bob Kerrey "Democrat." But Massa was spouting FDR slogans as if he'd just got off the train with Woody Guthrie. There's no way that someone who supported Reagan and Reagan mantras could possibly be that much of an FDR devotee. No way. And this was before the financial meltdown. It was obvious political bullshit. I never trusted Massa and was never disappointed when he lost. Personally I prefer when Republicans defeat "DINO" Democrats. Let the bad policies have the Republican brand rather than be tainted by Lieberman type bi-post-partisanship. The "fightin' Dems" policy gave us too many DINOs - too many "Bush-Blue Dogs."


I read Massa (0.00 / 0)
in a completely different way. I think he is accusing the bill's writers of not seeking the common good, because they are not trying to help people all around the country, but only in targeted areas. I don't read him as objecting to this because there are few foreclosures in his district. He says he agrees with the bill's goals, but objects to its selective targeting of help.

He says it did not deliver a proportional amount of relief to his district - that's simply not the same as saying that he wants a disproportionate share.  Arguments about proportion in this context are not "every man for himself" - they are about basic fairness.

Given that his vote did not impact the outcome, and that it doesn't seem as though he did any thing to derail it (like raising these concerns publicly prior to voting), I'm not seeing much wrong here.

I don't like the rhetoric about deficit spending (for "others") but that unfortunately is not unusual among Democratic officeholders. It is worth push back against - hard - but not blacklisting (at least on this vote alone.)

Maybe there is subtext here that I'm missing, but Massa also seems to be making an argument about the common good.

This doesn't mean I agree with his criticism. I'm just not reading him in the way that seems to be the consensus around here.

Politics is the art of the possible, but that means you have to think about changing what is possible, not that you have to accept it in perpetuity.


Except that this is a case (0.00 / 0)
in which, pretty much of necessity, the pain of the meltdown will be felt much more strongly in some areas than in others.

My impression is that the areas where the greatest number of foreclosures are taking place are high growth regions, such as California, Arizona, and Florida. Low growth areas, such a New York, pretty much inherently are less likely to have suffered in this severe down market.

Yet low growth areas have their own problems of course for which they certainly expect assistance from the federal government.

Insofar as the federal government is going to help out distressed homeowners at all, it's going to affect some regions much more than others. Complaining about that is little more than complaining about the necessity of sometimes mainly contributing to the common good instead of taking from it.


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Township-level corruption is a problem (0.00 / 0)
Here in the 10th Congressional District in Illinois, we have Democratic challengers taking on entrenched Republican Township Supervisors and their cronies who hire relatives, order pay increases of double-digits (40% in one case), and keep way more than the mandated amount of reserve funds in checking accounts. The funds are meant for stocking food pantries, making temporary, emergency funds available to families on the edge of financial survival, as well as funding our mental health long-term care residence. This is just to say that unless Massa's 29th NY district has local officials who are willing to share and support the needy in their local government entities, the money he directs to them may not be spent in a manner we'd want to encourage.

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