You know, I agree with you and (0.00 / 0)

O'Reilly is a despicable person, but are our efforsts really best spent getting upset about Limbaugh and O'Reilly or, just maybe, should we be building a real porgressive movement that someday will not be in thrall to Wall Street and Neo-liberalim.

That is, we need to build a movement that does not need Spector of Nelson or Blanche Lincoln, a movement that elects a President who does not persue neo-liberal polices and does not appoint Summers or Geithner like folks.

I guess I think O'Reilly and Limbaugh are side shows and distractions from real change.  That said, good luck in your efforts.    

 

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by: Tom Wells @ Wed Mar 25, 2009 at 14:38:13 PM CDT

So the ending of normalized misogynistic harassment isn't (4.00 / 1)

real change? Christ, it's no wonder feminists take issue with so much of the netroots.

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by: sb @ Wed Mar 25, 2009 at 16:30:12 PM CDT

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What? (0.00 / 0)

Now that is a truly bullshit comment.

Playing games with O'Reilly will not end "normalized misogynist harrassment."

Have fun playing war with o'Reilly.

It's all a game between right wing cable TV and left wing bloggers.  Meanwhile, WOMEN are losing homes and jobs.  

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by: Tom Wells @ Wed Mar 25, 2009 at 17:15:34 PM CDT

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Uh, the woman O'Reilly spoke of was raped and murdered. (4.00 / 1)

Sorry, that's worse than losing your job or your home. It's not going to single handedly end the harassment of women and rape of women, really? Thanks much for explaining that to me. But that hardly means that you NORMALIZE harassment of women by looking the other way when a television personality harangues women into submission. See how that works? When a powerful guy on TV can do it, it sets a standard. Get that?
      You have no business telling women that they should choose between harassment, their jobs, and their homes. It's not an either/or, and it's damn offensive that you've presented it as such. How fuc*ing dare you and call yourself any sort of progressive?

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by: sb @ Wed Mar 25, 2009 at 18:55:04 PM CDT

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In the words of Shelby Knox ("The Education of Shelby Knox") (4.00 / 1)

(sort of paraphrasing here) "Why is it that women's rights are always the first to be negotiated away?"

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by: Susan S @ Wed Mar 25, 2009 at 21:19:33 PM CDT

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I hear you, (4.00 / 1)

but it's not as if we're NOT "building a real progressive movement that someday will not be in thrall to Wall Street and Neo-liberalism."  Taking on Bill O'Reilly is not the only thing Think Progress, or Open Left, or the author of this post are doing with their time.  They're also fighting for passage of the Helping Families Save Their Homes Act, for drawing down troops in Afghanistan, passing the Employee Free Choice Act, etc.  Your point is a good one, but I think a bit unfair.

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by: Leighton Woodhouse @ Wed Mar 25, 2009 at 18:09:04 PM CDT

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At the least you should shut the fuck up! (0.00 / 0)

Then you can better focus your own efforts in building that "porgressive" [sic] movement without wasting your precious time trashing someone who's raising a serious issue about attacks on women.

Addressing women's issues (no, actually, this is MY issue too) is part of building that movement that your post in fact undermines.  Part of building that movement is engaging the vile spewings of the right, not just Wall Street.  Heightened violence against women is a key element of the right's assault, from rape to laughing about rape and murder of women on TV.  By the way, did you catch Olberman laughing last night about a man assaulting a woman in the middle of a courthouse?

Actually, terrorizing a blogger on the street goes beyond spewing by the right.  A fascistic right wing, if you hadn't noticed.  You want to debate that?  Make my day.

When the socialists and union leadership opposed the Nazis in the late 20's and early 30's, they argued that all this stuff about Jews was a diversion from the important economic issues of the day.  They argued that all the way to the gas chambers.

By the way, since you obviously oppose Heller raising this, your posing it as a question ("are our efforts..." or "just maybe...") is pure chickenshit.

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by: jeffroby @ Thu Mar 26, 2009 at 15:09:20 PM CDT

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interesting... (0.00 / 0)

I filled out the ThinkProgress form, and within minutes I had a reply back from one of those sponsors indicating they were out of the office.  BUT, not to be concerned because,

Your email is being forwarded to my Blackberry. No big deal, just a backup system.

Kind regards,
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Anyone else get a reponse like that?

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by: bystander @ Wed Mar 25, 2009 at 19:13:37 PM CDT

Yes, I did. (0.00 / 0)

They might want to look into that.

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by: Leighton Woodhouse @ Wed Mar 25, 2009 at 22:04:00 PM CDT

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