Stevens Dismissal A Turning Point? Siegelman Says 'What About Me?'

by: Paul Rosenberg

Thu Apr 02, 2009 at 13:50


DAngelus asks "Did Keith Olbermann go "centrist" all of a sudden?" and one of two reasons in the diary is because Olberman cited Holder's dismissal of charges against Ted Stevens as a good thing:

isn't the point that whatever he did, whether misdemeanor or felony or a slap on the wrist subject, it's almost beside the point when there's misconduct like this in a democratic system of justice?  There's no choice, right?  You don't withhold evidence from the defense, no matter what."

DAngelus is certainly right that there's more to the issue than just the prosecutorial misconduct.  There is still the matter of Stevens being a crook.  But what's the bigger issue here, particularly given the scope of prosecutorial misconduct over the last 8 years?

Don Siegelman has some thoughts on this, according to TPM::

"There seems to be substantial evidence of prosecutorial and other misconduct in my case, that would dwarf the allegations in the Stevens case," the former Alabama governor told TPMmuckraker in an interview moments ago....

And, as he has before, Siegelman framed his case as part of a wider effort to get to truth about politicization of the Justice Department during the Bush years. "Who at the Department of Justice abused their power, and why?" he asked. "Was Karl Rove directing the show?"

Even bigger than the issue of prosecutorial misconduct, however, is the over-arching issue of restoring the rule of law.  As in holding Bush Administration officials accountable for torture, and other criminal policies.

Paul Rosenberg :: Stevens Dismissal A Turning Point? Siegelman Says 'What About Me?'
I'm hardly suggesting that this is where Holder wants to go.  Rather, it just could turn out that this is where Holder will feel constrained and compelled to go.  Dismissing the case against Stevens sent a clear message of a fundamental break with the Bush DOJ's practices.  It is holding the government lawyers to a higher standard--just as they should be.  And what follows logically from that is holding them to a higher standard across the board.

We are a nation of laws, not men.  That is the message that Holder sent, with a big "No kidding!" tacked onto the end, in case there was any doubt.  That's a very important message, because it's so central to what made the United States so special in the first place.  Other nations had laws--Britain certainly did.  But they still placed some men above the law.  We pledged ourselves not to do that, and constructed our Constitution on that basis.  In that sense, the Bush Adminstration's attack on the rule of law was its most fundamentally anti-American act, and its most in need of utter and thorough repudiation.

To date, Obama has framed this in political terms--"looking backwards" and continuing "partisan division."  But this is an utterly politicized, utterly corrupt way of misrepresenting the ideal of some things, such as justice, transcending the realm of politics.  Holders act in dismissing the Stevens case holds out the potential promise of righting the wrong interpretation that Obama has embraced so far, while still maintaining some continuity with Obama's political intent: by making a high-ranking Republican the first beneficiary of his housecleaning of the Bush-era horrors, Holder gives a nod to Obama's desire not to make this a partisan matter.

Holder can continue in this vein by tapping Patrick Fitzgerald as special prosecutor to get to the bottom of all the high-level Bush-era crimes.  What's more, he can take advantage of Spain's initiation of legal actions against high-level Bush officials for torture by initiating such actions himself, in giving Fitzgerald his brief.  Such an action would be grounds for Spain to abandon its investigation, which Holder could clearly and honestly portray as an act of patriotically taking responsibility for our own housecleaning.

This is what Holder could do, and it is what he should be pressed to do. Normally, it is conservatives who insist on the importance of the rule of law, it matters much more than democracy, so far as they are concerned.  Orderly societies with harsh punishments and no elections seldom draw any complaints from them.  Now, however, the rule of law has become firmly associated with the DFHs--at least, in the mind of Versailles.  Nothing could do a better job of changing that than consistent conduct from the Attorney General.  Consistent with the dismissal of the Steven's indictment, that is.


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A jaundiced eye sees most clearly? (4.00 / 2)
So far, Obama et al. have been saucing the goose, while letting the gander fend for himself. The same as it ever was, etc. I can't think of a single issue so far where this hasn't been the case.

Holder and The Rule of Law. Tell that to the inhabitants of Guantánamo, or to those who question just what crimes he won't defend in the name of State Secrets.

Perhaps it's all part of the jiu-jitsu, they've only had sixty days, etc. Fine. I'll wait, but not forever....


The Principle Is Supposed To Be (4.00 / 3)
that the AG serves the Constitution, not the President.  This never happens with Republicans, of course.  Democrats, however, are a different story.  But to make that work in practice requires some strategizing on the AGs part.  Obama has clearly kicked the ball off in a very troubling and confused direction.  But here is a very obvious place for Holder to find a pivot point.

Do I claim that he will do it? No.  But it as an excellent point at which to bring pressure to bear.  And Siegelman's point about his own conviction and the misconduct involved there is a perfect next step to take.

"You know what they say -- those of us who fail history... doomed to repeat it in summer school." -- Buffy The Vampire Slayer, Season 6, Episode 3


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We shall see.... (0.00 / 0)
Needless to say, I'd be happier if you were in charge of strategy....

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Went wild (4.00 / 2)
I went wild over at Swingstate Project on this one.  Stevens and his pals were a RICO act not garden variety corruption (which was what was prsecuted).  He openly stole since he lost half his pension money in the 1987 stock crash and felt entitled and justified.  It was no half million dollar caper but probably up into the billions.  Maybe, probably, very namy billions.

Katrina relief was one of his biggest coups.  The Stevens gang got the feds to turn down a $52,000 per trailer bid and then bought thousands of the same trailers at $78,000 from the same manufacturer.  The remaining $26,000 per trailer was split with $1,000 going to a Native Alaskan coop for paperwork and the remaining $25,000 being flat our stolen by the Stevens gang.

His son was a leading ring leader in the gang and operated as majority leader in the Alaska State Senate before being taken down.  A long series of other thefts both preceded and succeeded this.

Now his lawyer says the conviction is "illegal."  Obviously Stevens loss to Begich, hanging on the conviction, is also illegal.  Holder threw another Democratic Senator under the bus.  He also may have tossed away NY-20 by being overly generous on absentees from the military.

All of this has been commom knowledge with dull coverage on the Anchorage Daily News since at least 2003 for the house and on a current basis for Katrina.  His other escapades in rigging the fishing business in Alaska are also common knowledge.  Sure VECO were crooks but Stevens kept demanding more.  And getting it.  Alaska politicians did hard time for "stealing" a $3,000 credit card payment (that was two or three years).  The judge has got to be part of the ring.  Stevens deserves life and more.  Hard labor in New Orleans rehabbing houses.

We had no money to pursue the worst of the S & L crooks, Charles Keating, who took the feds for $3 billion.  The message that sent to this generation of looters is that the biggest crooks can simply outspend the feds and get away with anything.  That helped leasd to the latest looting.  Steal from a convenience store and do hard time.  Steal a whole convenience store chain or bank or insurance company and get out of jail (for a fee).

The misconduct, incidentally, consisted of one interview that was not shared.  The guy is guilty as sin.  The verdict by the voter was sound.  It is the judge and Holder that are crazy.  legal loons running an inside con game.  Ditch Holder and ditch Geithner.  Throw Bernanke overboard if possible (Greenspan got talked into it).

Get some balls.  Hire Grayson for AG, Stiglitz for the Fed and Krugman for Treasury.


Look (4.00 / 1)
It goes much, much deeper than this.  You may recall at one point the leak that Abramoff may have been connected with 60 Congressmembers?  And neither Stevens not Cunningham was part of that web?  And that the Cunningham prosecutor tried to hand off two other indictments of SoCal GOP Congressmembers--both of whom are still in office?

What I'm saying here is that going in the backdoor could lead to a whole lot more than going in the front door.

I'm not saying you shouldn't raise the sort of fuss you're raising.  You should.  Just don't think I'm an advocate for ignoring it, simply because I want to press for a return to systemic lawfulness.

It's a good idea to push forward on all fronts.

But it's not a good idea, IMHO, to push on the relatively limited criminal case that the Bushies brought and bungled.  As you yourself are arguing, it was basically chickenfeed, anyway.  Best to wash our hands of it.

"You know what they say -- those of us who fail history... doomed to repeat it in summer school." -- Buffy The Vampire Slayer, Season 6, Episode 3


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It sounds like more than a simple unshared interview (4.00 / 2)
I'm reading allegations of possible perjured testimony, possibly induced by the prosecutors.

You almost seem to feel that it is impossible for there to be serious misconduct in the trial of a guilty person.  What do you do with a criminal who was not read his Miranda rights and is convicted using illegally-obtained self-incriminating evidence?  What do you do with a terrorist who has been subject to illegal torture?

Be very careful with where you go with this line of thought.  It's the same one used by "law and order" types who accuse liberals of "coddling" criminals by insisting on strict adherence to rules protecting the rights of the accused.

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Framing A Guitly Man (4.00 / 2)
Is the original sin of prosecutorial misconduct.

"You know what they say -- those of us who fail history... doomed to repeat it in summer school." -- Buffy The Vampire Slayer, Season 6, Episode 3

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The good thing about this is that it shows integrity. They didn't try to lie to an appellate judge and wait for his decision. They knew they had fucked up and they dismissed the charges. A lot of times the prosecution won't do that. They'll hid misconduct and hope the defense isn't smart enough to prove it.

The only problem, is that i don't get why they don't push for a new trial, sure the trial judge might not go for it but they could at least try.


They Could Try, But (4.00 / 1)
Stevens is an old man who has lost a position of enormous power, that is probably more precious to him than money. The case has been badly tainted, and Stevens has been punished by the loss of that power.  Were he 30 or 40 years younger, the calculus might be radically different.  But given that he's not and given what he's already lost, beginning anew could be seen as rubbing things in.

And given that this sort of perception is already out there and far too rampant--and that it would be mobilized to defend any number of other scumbags who are still quite capable of decades malignant mischief--it seems quite prudent to not empower this toxic meme.

Everything really depends on what follows from this action.  It has very positive potential to it.  Of course it could just be feeding more of the "let everyone powerful off the hook" practices we've seen so much of.  So I'm not defending it unreservedly.  I'm just saying that this very same potential weakness could be what helps it serve as a fundametal pivot point, which starts turning everything around.  

"You know what they say -- those of us who fail history... doomed to repeat it in summer school." -- Buffy The Vampire Slayer, Season 6, Episode 3


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