Conservative Blogs Gaining On Progressives

by: Chris Bowers

Fri Apr 03, 2009 at 16:51


It appears that the audience size of the conservative blogosphere is gaining on that of the progressive blogosphere. While the study linked in the previous sentence is not comprehensive (only blogs with Site Meter were examined), overall it is still strongly suggestive that, since the end of the election season last November, conservative blogs have lost less traffic than progressive blogs.

A change of this sort has happened before. In the early days of political blogging, from 2000-2003, the conservative blogosphere was actually much larger than the progressive blogosphere. However, starting in late 2003, and continuing through late 2005, the audience for the progressive blogosphere surged. Over a two-year stretch, the progressive blogosphere turned a 3-1 audience deficit into a 2-1 audience advantage, even though the conservative blogosphere was actually gaining in overall audience during those two years.

It is now possible that the conservative blogosphere is close to parity with the progressive blogosphere in terms of overall audience. This is interesting, but also requires more study with more solid numbers to truly determine the state of play. Further, it is disturbing in that it might signal conservatives are starting to close the ground on progressives in terms of online infrastructure.

I have two preliminary explanations for this trend, which I explore in the extended entry.

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  1. Progressive blogs have a heavy electoral focus: The relatively higher progressive audience drop since the end of the 2008 election is surely connected to the heavy focus on electoral information within the progressive blogosphere. Websites like Daily Kos, fivethirtyeight, MyDD and even Open Left have taken elections as their central content focus for years. The right-wing blogopshere just has not focused on the electoral side of politics to the same degree. There simply is not the same amount of poll analysis, there have not been as many high-profile primary campaigns, and nowhere near the same amount of money has been raised by the two 'spheres. As such, the end of an election season is inevitably going to cause a steeper drop in traffic within the more electorally focused 'sphere.

  2. Alternatives thrive when leadership is discredited: An equal, if not more important reason, for recent conservative relative gains has been the electoral success of the Democratic Party and the electoral failure of the Republican Party. Generally speaking, blogs function as alternatives to extent institutional power, and as such will thrive in environments when people are looking for alternative leadership for institutions which they value. In other words, now that the Democratic leadership is delivering victories, the general population of people interested in Democratic victories feels less compelled to seek alternative ideas, institutions, and leaders to achieve victory. Conversely, now that the Republican leadership has suffered so many brutal defeats, people interested in Republican and conservative victory are seeking out alternative strategies, institutions and leaders for Republican and conservative causes.

    Fully a year before the Democratic primary season began, I used this theory to predict that Hillary Clinton would not be the online activist favorite in the 2008 Democratic primary:

    Within the world of progressive activists, from the viewpoint of the working and middle class progressive activists, Hillary Clinton is seen as hopelessly aligned with the establishment activists, with the insider activists, with the wealthy activists, with the well-connected activists, and with every possible progressive activist "elite" you can possibly imagine. Is it thus in any way surprising that the activist base, which is largely on the outside looking in, generally does not harbor much positive feeling toward her? The progressive activist base considers the progressive activist elite to be the main culprit in progressives losing power around the country. We keep losing, and we blame them. Thus, why should it be a surprise to anyone that we dislike the person who is viewed as their primary representative? We literally hold her, and what she represents within the world of progressive activism, to be responsible for the massive progressive backslide that has taken place over the past twelve years.

    Progressives began reading the progressive blogosphere en masse because they were in search of alternative theories on how to achieve Democratic and progressive victory. They were tired of losing to Republicans, and tired of even losing to the more conservative elements of their own party. They blamed the progressive and Democratic leadership for these failures, and started attaching themselves to new institutions, new strategies, new voices, and new leaders. However, now that victory has become quite a bit more regular, for many people the search for alternatives is far less pressing.

    This is the exact opposite situation Republicans and conservatives are facing. As such, alternative conservative media outlets are starting to rise faster, or at least decline relatively slower, than progressive media outlets.

Even with all this said, it is worth noting that measuring the size of the progressive and conservative blogospheres has grown far more difficult since people first starting tracking it in 2003. A wider and less universal range of website traffic sources is in use. Some websites, like the Huffington Post, have grown so large that they aren't really even blogs anymore. Other mediums, such as Facebook and Twitter, have risen dramatically in importance, creating a more diversified new media landscape than just "the blogs." As such, measuring the conservative and progressive shares of the new media political market has become increasingly difficult, and soon might be a near impossibility.

Perhaps the best way to compare conservative and progressive performance within new media is to measure the 'spheres by effectiveness, rather than size. How many resources does each 'sphere contribute? Who does a better job controlling political and media narratives? Who brings more people into the process? Which is a larger part of our national cultural? These are not easy questions to answer either, but they might still be a more appropriate direction for analysis of conservative and progressive new media performance to adopt.


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the rightosphere has increased in Iowa (4.00 / 3)
with two major new Republican blogs launched in the past couple of months (theiowarepublican.com and thebeanwalker.com, which is like a state-level Drudge Report).

I am sure these new blogs are driving lots of traffic to the other conservative blogs in Iowa, because whenever one of them links to a Bleeding Heartland post I notice a lot of extra hits.

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More conservative blogs is wonderful news! (0.00 / 0)
When the internet was full of progressive bloggers, we got...

Barack Obama, a "progressive" whose core values are cutting taxes, putting 100,000 troops in Afghanistan, and giving away $11 trillion to bank speculators.

So if we judge by history...

with the internet full of conservative bloggers...

the next Republican President will be...

Dennis Kucinich!

Harharharhar!!!


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I might also (0.00 / 0)
add,Geithner is giving the conservatives and the rest of the country something to be truely outraged about.



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For this, we overlooked Timmy's tax problems? (0.00 / 0)
William Black on Bill Moyers,

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What are you talking about? (0.00 / 0)
All Geithner ever did was to take, oh, a trillion dollars, and piled it in the same room as his Wall Street buds.

What could go wrong?


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option 3 (4.00 / 3)
I think when the guy you hate (Obama) is on the news all the time you might have a greater tendency to cocoon yourself with messages you prefer. Same might have been true for Dems when Bush/Cheney/Iraq/War etc. were dominating the news.

Not disturbing but inevitable? (4.00 / 2)
Increasing numbers of people online will lead more to the political blogosphere shifting to resemble the general population than to the general population shifting to resemble the blogosphere.  Given the low barrier to entry for blogging, it seems unlikely that you would have an ideological disparity similar to that in AM talk radio.

I have an alternate explanation.  There's a natural cap to the percentage of progressives (and conservatives) who are interested in heavily engaging in new media.  Conservatives are farther from the cap, so their rate of growth will be larger, all other things being equal (which they usually aren't).  At some point, the lefty blogosphere will reach a size where growth will stagnate and conservative bloggers play catch-up.

It could also be that liberal blogs have penetrated their political audience so deeply that they had more of relatively casual readers whose interest will fall away without the urgency of impending elections.  

Or it could be that conservatives just have greater brand loyalty (they still cling to George W. Bush, after all), so they are less inclined to go elsewhere once they start something.  (That sparks the curious tangential thought that conservative political blogs might be better for non-political advertising than liberal blogs.)

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agree, re infrastructure (0.00 / 0)
So conservatives are closing ground on infrastructure -- isn't that natural?

So long as it isn't due to a lack or collapse on the left, which I haven't seen happen, it's not that big a deal. What will count is whether or not that infrastructure is used for accountability's sake, regardless of who is in power.


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Another option (4.00 / 2)
The primaries were gamed and although most Obama supporters refuse to acknowledge this fact, a huge portion of actively involved (in some cases former) Democratic voters were ridiculed, berated, called racist, and banned from blogs we'd been at for years. Many of us saw what was done by the insiders of the Democratic Party and Team Obama to ensure Obama won the nomination. We saw chit being pulled that we thought was only done by Republicans -- and were disgusted and dismayed that our former allies absolutely refused to see any of it. We were sickened that our (former) party would so blatantly bend and break rules in order to ensure the outcome they, Corporate Press and Wall Street wanted.

So I submit, there is a very good and real chance many people who were once active participants on liberal blogs have moved on (as we were constantly and are still told to do).

Obviously, I don't have the eloquence to properly express what almost 1/2 the Democratic party went through during the 2008 primaries, so I will leave with these words written by Joseph Cannon, who I don't always agree with, but nails it here:

No, we will never "get over" the primaries of 2008, just I never "got over" the Florida vote theft of 2000. I will not forget being called a racist every single day. I will not forget the lies. I will not forget the death threats. I will not forget the astro-turf hate messages (many from the same ISP in Chicago) that flooded my blog every day. I will not forget the totalitarian imagery and the Mao-like cult created by the Obama camapign. I will not forget seeing my own (former) party embrace tactics that would have made Lee Atwater blush. I will not forget the election fraud in the caucus states. I will not forget the disgusting and unforgivable treatment of Hillary's delegates at the convention.

As Richard Pryor said at the end of his most famous routine: "Y'all probably done forgot about it. Yuk, yuk, yuk... But I ain't never gonna forget."



I don't even remember (4.00 / 1)
the liberal blogs being like that during the primaries. I remember a lot of bitterness from both sides, some exaggeration from both sides. I remember both sides put away their differences and gave Hillary kudos for her Obama support during the general campaign. I remember just about total support for Hillary as Secretary of State.

I saw the March survey numbers on Democratic support for Obama - 91% approval, and it looks like Democrats remember the same as me.


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your memory deceives you (4.00 / 1)
because the liberal blogs were overwhelmingly dominated by Obama supporters who did demonize both Hillary and (in many cases) her supporters. I wasn't even a Clinton supporter and I was repelled.

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It is easy to verify (0.00 / 0)
how many liberal blogs endorsed Obama before the primaries? How many for Hillary? How many stayed neutral until Obama's lead became mathematically a forgone deal?

There was repellent behavior from some supporters on both sides and bad feelings but for Democratic voters they are not lifetime, never forgive, never forget scars.


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Blah... (0.00 / 0)
Obama has a 95% approval ratings amongst Democrats...

That would imply that most have forgiven...



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Possibly (4.00 / 1)
But forgotten? Not at all. Jen is quite right.

Personally, I think that some or many of those who were asked to leave the party, did, and that this was regarded as a feature, not a bug, by those now in charge. Whether that shows up in Lord Mike's numbers, I don't know; I freely admit I have no more than anecdotal evidence.

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The democrats who were so beholden to Clinton... (4.00 / 1)
...that no one else would do were pretty "soft" democrats...  If they became actual PUMA's then they really weren't democrats at all...

The resentment comes entirely from the idea that Hillary was somehow entitled to a nomination by default.  Had she not deliberately antagonized half of the base, then she would have gotten her wish.  Had she made ammends with the activists, that half of the party who was tired of constantly being alienated by party leaders would have not have been strongly motivated to find an alternative.  She tried "triangulating" us like her husband did, and that's what made Obama competitive... not any gaming of the system... not anything else... She went out of her way to piss off half of the party thinking that was a feature, for the general election when it ended up being a bug.

I apologize to the Hillary folk that I didn't want to be used as a foil and patsy during the general election, but that's why I was motivated to find someone else... and Obama delivered a much more progressive campaign than expected... very little DLC-type stuff in his campaign, at least comparatively speaking...

It worked for McCain... the right was unable to find an alternative for him, but even then, Huckabee was laying out a great protest nomination challenge....

Lesson learned... don't piss off the activists!

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no, your claim can be ruled out (4.00 / 2)
By the plots shown.  The dropoff is post-general election, not post-primary election.  

That is not to say that some individuals have left.


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I think (0.00 / 0)
this has had a significant effect.  There are a number of so-called liberal blogs that I will not visit at all because of the discourse during the election cycle.  The pro-Obama crowd would not engage in an honest progressive debate.  Neither Obama nor Clinton were true progressives, but it was simply impossible to engage in a debate about concerns about Obama.  Rather than having an intelligent debate about the qualifications and shortcomings of both candidates, the Obama supporters would hear none of it.  It certainly turned me off.  I also found it very amusing that two of the biggest supporters- Huffington and Kos- are former Republicans.  I am always skeptical of anyone who could have been a Republican over the past twenty five years.

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wow (0.00 / 0)
Try joining the reality based community.

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There's some good news here too... (4.00 / 2)
While it is important that the magnitude of progressive blog traffic stays higher than that of conservative blog traffic, I suggest that the spike-y-ness of our blog traffic is, in and of itself, a good and progressive thing.

If I remember correctly, Chris, you have also written about the spikes in traffic surrounding the Social Security fight and Katrina--adding "issues" and "events" to the "elections" explanation for fluctuations in traffic--a fact which suggests a much more generalized explanation for these spikes: progressive blog traffic rises when the polity is more attentive to progressive politics.

Now, of course I would love for all of those sporadic readers to get hooked and become regular readers (I'm sure some do), and I think it's important to maintain a dominance in terms of core readership--but it would be alarming to see data which indicated that the progressive blogosphere was somehow incapable of engaging new and occasional readers during times of great political importance, or during times when particular issues were particularly salient to certain slices of the population.

Especially for a movement or an ideology that consists of an amalgamation of out-groups (non-white and/or non-christian and/or non/straight) it is important to the progressive movement that we be more welcoming to new participants, and, as a mainstream medium, that we are more relevant to people who find themselves only recently or temporarily interested in the politics of the day.

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dKos is off by at least 4X (4.00 / 5)
...since the primary, probably 3X from the Bush era, and I strongly suspect myBO is off by way more than that. The allegedly huge canvassing operation a couple of weeks ago appeared to be a non-event, with an insignificant number of the mail list's 10,000,000 people showing up.

OTOH, just like the '90s, the wingnuts love to stew in their outsider status, and talk radio's ratings are up. We forget, for in the early years of the Internet, conservatives at Town Hall and Free Republic far out numbered Democrats at small sites like Turn Left. BartCop and Table Talk were our biggest assets. It took Bush hatred and the spawn of Table Talk and MWO to grow into what we recognize as the netroots. We should expect higher energy from the far right.

As to low energy on our side, I see sort of a perfect storm. First, nearly all of our institutions became part of the Obama campaign, a one-person cause, with a discreet goal that we achieved in Nov. Second, Obama's platform was nuanced enough that our side was not invested in specific legislative achievements, so issue groups and local parties will need to regroup once they figure out which battles they want to take on. Third, "Yes We Can," for a lot of campaign volunteers, meant voting, and placing faith in Obama's personal transcendent abilities. Fourth, Obama's expectations were so high that even necessary realities were bound to be a let-down... worse, Obama's coziness with Wall St, telcos, SS privatizeers, standardized testers, and insurance companies have a lot of people asking, WTF? He has not allowed his volunteer base to be invested in policy and people powered politics the way they hoped and imagined. While the remnants of myBO are having house parties on single payer, Obama isn't even making a firm stand on a public option.

Here's a chilling thought: with these underlying conditions, the right might become competitive with us online during the next two or three years.


I certainly thing you're on to something here (4.00 / 2)
Personally, I think one big reason there has been such a decline in the numbers of the progressive blogosphere is a combination of disappointment and embarrassment.

I don't think any candidate has ever been as extravagantly oversold on the Intertubes as Obama. Legions of Obama supporters were pronouncing to all who would hear, and many who would not, that he would become some kind of progressive messiah of preternatural political intuitions and talents. It would be a bit hard for them to have seen his performance in office over the last couple of months, and see him reduced so rudely and swiftly to crude actuality. The actual President Obama did so many, many more things that were hard to excuse as a progressive than the potential President Obama seemed ever to suggest. It would be harder still for these supporters to face some of the same people online to whom they made those grand and supremely confident pronouncements.

And it would be especially difficult to face those to whom they made insinuations that any skepticism on this point might only be accounted for by something unseemly -- which they sometimes named, and sometimes, with a conspicuous display of their high honor, didn't.

I think a lot of these people aren't so eager to revisit those precincts where so much went on that is so hard to justify or explain in retrospect, and in which they were only too eager participants.

Better for them, I would think, simply to search about for other things to do.


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And they won't be back. (4.00 / 2)
As party regulars bitterly noted, a year after Dean, all of the people on the phones were the same gray haired ladies who were always there. The kids in orange beanies were gone... and they didn't have anything to be embarrassed about!

We are so f&*ked. When the GOP catches up to us in online fund raising, what will it all have been for?

Even the BHO supporters know how bad things are. Bill Moyer's financial expert this week, an Obama supporter, was so stark and critical, his language would have been cause for banning a couple of months ago on every major liberal website.

I'll YouTube it for posterity. "I told you so," isn't near as fun as I thought it would be.


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Liberty Oriented Blogs (4.00 / 1)
I believe there has recently been a huge outcropping of blogs in a category not defined neatly by "progressive" or "conservative".  These are more libertarian and focus on a reduction of both the welfare and the warfare state.

Twitter (0.00 / 0)
That's their new thing... doesn't always work out for them, (as in the attempt to mount a coup in the Virginia legislature, but was twittered away, discovered, and foiled), but it's a perfect format for the right.  One sentence soundbytes that can be delivered, repeated, and forwarded all over the world... it's a natural fit for the Rovian political machine...

We're a little behind on the twitter thing... maybe I'm getting old, but I don't really "get" the twittering phenomenon... We should probably get with the program... I don't want to give away any advantages...

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Agreed on twitter (4.00 / 1)
On my site I can twitter automagically from the headlines. A good headline writer [lambert blushes modestly] can tell a story in a headline of 140 characters -- so I get the twitter link and the depth of coverage in the post body as well.

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twitter info (4.00 / 1)
I jumped back into twitter a couple months ago, and I am getting about 30-40% more information then when I was just reading certain blogs.  I don't blog hop a lot, but with twitter if you follow the right people/progressive you can get A LOT of info.  not in the one sentence soundbites - but in the links provided in the soundbites.

I am also finding more info on green movements/stories, local politics, feminist links, etc...  It is easier to get a specific blog recommendation from someone you know, or admire, in the progressive-sphere.  (plus you can follow zombies and/or caribous throughout their day.....how can you NOT love that :)

So I am digging twitter.  I am 38. Don't know anymore if that is young or old.  But for someone addicted to information, twitter is a good pusher.


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Tired of Obama/Democrat-Bashing (4.00 / 1)
I know I read fewer lefty blogs in part because I am tired of Obama/Democrat-bashing (particularly for what can seem like silly issues - like how he laughed at a question about whether legalizing pot would fix the economy). I simply find the content of many sites worth less of my time.

I also find myself reading conservative blogs more because I want to keep my eye on the real enemy.

So I am part of this trend, and it isn't because the conservatives are winning more arguments online, it is because I, and, I suspect, a generation of people like me, want to keep on top of the threats Republicans pose, and I can't count on liberal blogs to devote much time to that now.


It's an interesting thought (4.00 / 1)
But there are an awful lot of blogs other than the Big 10 on each side, and some newer ones (like 538) have sprung up to overtake once dominant blogs.

Another metric worth looking at - (desmoinesdem alluded to this upthread) Do conservatives have a 50 state network? What's the traffic like on those blogs?

For my own part, our traffic is steady since the election, but we were always a lot more issues-oriented than electorally minded, so we pretty much have the same audience now as back then. And I believe Fired Up Missouri is even bigger now than it was in the fall of 2008. So I'm not too worried just yet.

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Simple answers to simple questions (0.00 / 0)
When your party is out of power and seen as irrelevant by "insdiers", "outsider" channels of expresseion become more important.

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Very late (0.00 / 0)
I think Chris has not paid enough attention to Instapundit's having the least decrease in traffic of all of them by a great margin. Instapundit is not particularly giving traffic to any of the other blogs in the post. This would imply that people are going there to see what the right-wingers are saying, but are not identifying as traditional movement conservatives. Hugh Hewitt's traffic is down as much as Kos's. This relates to 2a) that the blogosphere is supposed to be oppositional. The media coverage of Obama has been so favorable that people may be more curious about what the right-wingers are coming up with.
3) The people reading these blogs were in the minority already so they have more reason to be loyal to them.  

Darkness has a hunger that's insatiable, and lightness has a call that's hard to hear.  

Additional curiosity (0.00 / 0)
Half of the traffic of those ten right-wing blogs is Instapundit, Hot Air, and Michelle Malkin. And Ann Althouse and Andrew Sullivan voted for Obama. So the issue is why Hot Air and Malkin are bringing in those huge audiences rather than the right-wing blogosphere as a whole.  

Darkness has a hunger that's insatiable, and lightness has a call that's hard to hear.  

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And similarly (0.00 / 0)
Daily Kos is half of the progressive traffic now and half of the decrease in progressive traffic. This can simply be imputed to having no high-profile election to write about--the election displaced the activism part. FDL has less of a decrease because they have always done activism.  

Darkness has a hunger that's insatiable, and lightness has a call that's hard to hear.  

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