Long-term, Center-left Victory on Public Spending Highly Likely

by: Chris Bowers

Tue Apr 07, 2009 at 15:14


Given the current state of the country and the world, it is easy to be pessimistic. Unemployment is at a 27 year high, health care continues to become more difficult to attain and afford, Wall Street keeps ripping us off, climate change appears inevitable, and seemingly every day comes news of another natural disaster or mass killing somewhere in the world. The Senate doesn't help either, as it seems to be an almost intractable barrier to the progressive legislation Speaker Pelosi and the Obama administration attempt to pass.

However, in the face of justified pessimism about out future, today I have some positive news for progressives. As a country, we are on the brink of a substantial, long-term increase in social investment that will move our economy much closer to the mixed, and substantially larger public welfare models, of Canada and Western Europe. It is highly likely that this long-term increase will be equal to about 6% of GDP, and that over 80% of the increase will be in the favorite areas of the center-left: pensions, health care, education and general infrastructure. It will prove to be an increase that is so popular that it will not be undone even if a Republican trifecta is able to rear its head again at some point over the next two decades.

If all of this sounds too good to be true, in the extended entry I provide good reasons to think otherwise. My basic argument is that, following an economic principle known as Wagner's law, social investment spending in American has not really ever declined over any extended period in the last 110 years of American history no matter which parties or ideologies were in charge. Further, after a 31-year period of equilibrium where public spending was consistently between 32% and 37% of GDP, we have recently move into the low-40% range even if recent defense and bailout spending increases are removed from the equation. Yet further, as unlikely as is sounds, there actually are popular and politically doable options for new taxes that would allow for a low-40% of GDP public spending range to become stable over the long-term.

In short, no matter what proclamations we hear from Republicans, conservative Democrats, or even anonymous Obama administration officials who talk to David Brooks, the odds are heavily in favor of America entering a new era with a nearly permanent and large increase in progressive social investment. In the extended entry, I explain why.

Chris Bowers :: Long-term, Center-left Victory on Public Spending Highly Likely
A new era of increased social investment in America is coming, and here is why:

  1. Mid-thirties equilibrium broken: From fiscal year 1976 through fiscal year 2007, there were only very slight alterations in public spending as a percentage of GDP (32%-37% was the entire range). For thirty years, both public spending and public revenue fluctuated within a very narrow, 5% range. However, as I discussed yesterday, last year this equilibrium was broken, as public spending shot up to nearly 45% of GDP, roughly 7% higher than any year since World War Two:


    We have entered a new space. In every previous instance not overwhelmingly related to mass war mobilization, we never returned to normal. The question now is whether we will return to the mid-thirties equilibrium through spending cuts in future years, or have we permanently jumped a level that will be maintained through new sources of revenue (aka, taxes)? Before we can answer this question, we need to first examine where the spending increases came from.

  2. Health Care, Defense and Bailout Caused Spending Increase From 2001-2009, very little of the nearly 11% increase in public spending as a percentage of GDP came from pensions--only 0.5%, to be exact. Most of the increase came from health care (1.7%), defense (2.2%), and the bailout (3.7%, included in the "other" line in the graph below). Here is a chart showing these trends:


    As much as we are told that rising public expenditures are cuased by Social Security, the truth is that they are mainly caused by rising health care costs, and the vast increases in defense spending that took place under Bush. And, of course, the bailout.

  3. Bailout spending will be cut: The 3.7% increase in public spending as a percentage of GDP from the Wall Street bailout will be, by far, the easiest and most popular spending to cut. In fact, it is guaranteed that the entire amount will be cut from future fiscal years. The bailout is opposed by large majorities of the country, is not connected to funding for any other programs, and any new aid would have to be approved through Congress largely as a stand-alone bill. As such, this 3.7% increase in public spending as a percentage of GDP will inevitably be only a one-time affair, moving the overall public spending as a percentage of GDP down to 40.9%-41.0%.

  4. Defense spending likely to be reduced easiest: Although the new defense budget is apparently deficit neutral, over the years defense spending has proven far easier to cut than either health care or pensions. Since we entered the 34-35% public spending as a percentage of GDP equilibrium period in the mid-1970's, defense spending has noticeably fluctuated, while health care and pensions spending has never declined:


    The easiest way to reduce defense spending will come from the (hopefully) eventual reduction of our overseas military presence in Iraq and Afghanistan. However, since President Obama intends to maintain a large presence in Afghanistan indefinitely, since he also wants to increase the number of military personnel, and since defense spending isn't actually all that easy to cut, it is unlikely that we will return to the sub-4.0% levels of President Clinton's second term. A better estimate is that, in a few years, and barring any new major military conflicts, military spending will decline to about 5.0% of GDP. Thus, public spending as a percentage of GDP will drop to about 40.0%.

  5. Good luck cutting anything else: After these cuts slowly take shape, it is a pretty safe bet that the remaining spending increases are permanent. Despite continuing talk of cutting Social Security benefits both inside and outside the Obama administration, spending on pensions as a percentage of GDP simply is not going to drop long-term. Attempting to cut Social Security was the beginning of the end for the Republican trifecta in D.C., and even the Orzag plan for Social Security wouldn't really reduce costs long-term even if they might slightly reduce benefits. The same goes for health care, which not only has never shown an ability to decline, but all political momentum is pushing toward increased health care spending.

    Throughout the last 110 years, whenever there has been a large increase in public spending as a percentage of GDP not directly related to mass war mobilization, it has never been reversed over the long-term. This is probably directly related to Wagner's law:

    In his new book, "The Tyranny of Dead Ideas," Matt Miller nicely lays out the history of American taxes. He begins the story with Adolf Wagner, a 19th-century German economist who predicted that taxes would rise as societies became wealthier. The idea became known as Wagner's Law.

    "As people grew more affluent," writes Mr. Miller, a journalist and a consultant for McKinsey & Company, "they'd want more of what only government could provide - a strong military, public order, good schools and assorted welfare benefits, services that private citizens would have trouble arranging for on their own."

    The last 110 years of American public spending bears out Wagner's thesis very well. While there have been at least four major upswings, there simply has never been a long-term decline in public spending as a percentage of GDP. Generally speaking, people end up liking the services more than they dislike the taxes.  As such, it is a solid bet that the mid-thirties equilibrium is gone for good, and we have reached a new, low-forties plateau for a long-time to come.

  6. There are popular sources for new revenue If public spending as a percentage of GDP really has permanently increased by about 6% from the mid-thirties to the low-forties, we are going to need more tax revenue to pay for it all. As Matthew Yglesias rightly notes today, this will mean going beyond a return to the Clinton-era status quo, which only increased total public revenue by about 2%. Given that we need another 4%, the next question is where will the remaining revenue come from? Believe it or not, there are popular, politically doable options available.

    Beyond removing all Bush-era tax cuts, the easiest new source of revenue would be to raise, and ultimately eliminate, the income cap on Social Security taxes. Raising the income cap is a very popular, consensus idea, supported by 63% of the country and opposed by only 30%. In and of itself, eliminating the cap would provide a significant percentage of the needed revenue increase, as it would increase taxes on those making more than $90,000 a year by 6%.

    Putting a price on carbon usage, either through a carbon tax or a cap and trade system, is also coming down the road. While it is highly unlikely that we will secure a 100% auction system this year, it is actually very likely that there will be at least a 58.75% auctioning system in place by 2013, given that those are the totals mandated by the Boxer-Lieberman-Warner climate act that nearly passed the Senate before Democrats picked up eight new members. Official estimates for how much revenue 60% auction would generate rises to about $180 billion in 2020, which will represent between 0.5% and 0.75% for total GDP by 2020. So, new revenue from putting a price on carbon, which is inevitable, will push us part of the way there as well.

    New taxes targeted at health care are actually reasonably popular. In a CBS poll released yesterday, by a 57%-38% margin, the country indicated they would be willing to pay more in taxes in order to reduce the costs of health care and provide coverage to more Americans. This could come in the form of some sort of consumption tax that would encourage people to consume fewer products which are damaging to their health. This would probably be a fairly easy tax to pass, given that such taxes are already passed on a regular basis for cigarettes.

    To get us over the line, yesterday commenter Peter from WI had some good ideas:

    Second, tax capital gains the same as income.  That's what they are anyway, income from capital market investments.(...)

    I also agree with previous suggestions on corporate and individual taxation, and I'll add increases in the top marginal tax rates, expansion of the number of upper-income tax brackets, increase in estate taxation, and a financial transactions tax.  What is great about these ideas is not just that they generate more badly-needed revenue, they also have secondary impacts on the broader economy as outlined above.

    While it is unlikely that all of these will be enacted, it is likely that if the previous tax measures don't make up the entire 6% increase in public revenue that is necessary, some of them will be enacted. All told, these new sources of revenue--reversing all Bush-era tax cuts, eliminating the Social Security income tax cap, putting a price on carbon usage, a health-care targeted consumption tax, and various means to increase taxes on the wealthy--should make up the entire needed revenue.

To close, I want to state that while I believe what I have described here is the most likely long-term political outcome in America, it isn't, of course, a 100% guarantee. Just because every previous large jump in social investment spending has never really been reversed doesn't mean that every such jump is permanent. After all, in this country, we only have a sample size of about four or five to demonstrate Wanger's law. We will, of course, have to keep pushing as hard as possible to make this large increase in social investment long-term.

However, I do hope that this article at least provides progressive activists with a strong dose of optimism about our ability to win these economic fights over the long-term. It really is very likely that we can hold onto the increased social investment spending from the February stimulus plan and the upcoming budget. History shows us that it is much easier for politicians to find new sources of revenue than it is to cut social investment spending. The odds are on our side, and this is a fight we are very likely to win.


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awesome read (4.00 / 3)
that does make me feel a little more optimistic about the future.  I hope they get those new sources of tax revenue though since we need to pay for all the increases in spending.  I think they need to tax very high income earners with a lot more taxes.  Like they did under Eisenhower.  Although I don't know if 90% tax on it is the right number.   I wonder if you mention this needed revenue is needed to maintain budget neutral numbers.  If we taxed the high income earners more maybe we could pay down the national debt and become a creditor nation again, instead of a debtor nation.  I like Donald Trumps plan to have a one time tax on wealth to pay off the national debt.  maybe it wouldn't work, but it sounds nice with our national debt so high and the interest on the debt being such a burden.

50% (4.00 / 2)
50% seems fair to me, where going above that number seems more like punishment.  (Not that some don't deserve it, mind you.)  Just set the alternate minimum tax (AMT) rate high enough at the upper ends to avoid the loopholes the big guys get.

I'd go for 50% rate at $1 million and 50% AMT at $10 million.


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Reuters reported on March 12th that as of 12/31/08 (4.00 / 1)
"Household net worth dropped by $5.1 trillion from the prior quarter to $51.5 trillion. For the full year, net worth dropped by $11.2 trillion, reflecting steep declines in the housing and stock markets." OK. So there's your starting point. And you may want to wait until 2010 to see if there is a wealth rebound.  Targeting the top 5% of wealthy Americans:

If you assume 38% of the wealth is owned by the top 1% of Americans, that comes out to roughly 19.6 trillion. The next 4% own approximately 25% or 12.875 trillion. So a one time 10% tax on that wealth raises close to $3.25 trillion dollars.

Then you start taxing all capital gains above $500,000 at 30% (instead of the current 15/20%) and you pay off the debt in a few years and leave plenty for health care and infrastructure.


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Advertising tax and wealth tax (4.00 / 2)
I'd love to see a 5% tax on all advertising. Most advertising is obnoxious and focused on inducing useless buying - very little advertising is actually informative and useful. So taxing it seems like a win-win: we can reduce advertising a bit and raise some money. Getting it passed, of course, would be difficult given how powerful the opposition is. Still, I imagine that an advertising tax would be very popular with most people.

I'd also like to see a redistributive wealth tax that really tries to end financial dynasties in this country, many of them derived from the slave trade, gun running, corruption, fraud, massive exploitation of workers and the environment, etc. We need an on-going big tax (like 5%) on all wealth exceeding $20 million, an on-going very big tax (like 10%) on family wealth of more than $200 million, and a really big tax (like 20%) on family wealth exceeding $2 billion. Passing this would also be hard, but the super-wealthy only represent about 0.01% of the population.


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Thanks. (4.00 / 8)
I needed that.

Montani semper liberi

Invalid comparison (4.00 / 4)
While it is true that the public doesn't take kindly to seeing social welfare spending cut, this isn't the whole picture.

For the entire 20th Century the US was a growing international power, it survived two world wars without suffering any infrastructure damage. It expanded its trade and production capacity and moved into markets where Europe and previously been dominant. In addition it was a net exporter of goods and services and was expanding its natural resource domestic use.

This all came to an end over the past 20 years. We are no longer a net exporter, but are now a net importer, we no longer run a trade surplus, but a deficit. We borrow money from our trading partners. In other words we are living beyond our means. Spending on social programs can't continue to expand under these conditions. The country has already gotten poorer, we have just papered over this fact by borrowing.

Raising taxes may make a slight dent, but the big expenses are still not being addressed. These are our insistence on acting as the "world's only superpower" and the world's policeman, and our reliance on imported raw materials and finished goods.

One has only to look at what happened to other world powers when they lost their empires, they got poorer. Just look at Germany after WWI or Britain after WWII.

The average household in the US is in the same condition, earnings have stagnated, but expenses have gone up. The difference has been made up by an increase in women in the workforce and by borrowing. This has also reached a point of diminishing returns.

Certainly we can do a better job of allocating what funds we have away from the death industries and into socially beneficial uses, but we can't expect our standard of living to remain as it was. Politicians will not discuss this, in fact what they are pushing for is a return to the unsustainable growth model that got us into the present fix as quickly as possible.

Policies not Politics


Post-imperial Europe (4.00 / 9)
looks pretty darn good to me. They have mass transportation connecting livable cities. They have better food, more time off and better haircuts.

They may be poorer in aggregate and on paper, but their quality of life is much better than ours, which makes me think it's not aggregate wealth that matters so much as the distribution of that wealth.

Right now our wealth, as an empire, is going almost entirely to the elites.

Montani semper liberi


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Exactly (4.00 / 7)
Until the US realizes that having more "stuff" is not the purpose of life we will continue to pursue socially destructive policies.

Europe gets by with less material wealth because it is more compact and doesn't spend as much on transportation or sprawl as we do. Their better social safety net also means that people don't need to hoard (if they can) as much wealth during their working lives to cover them in old age.

However, Europe (and Japan) are also facing the same fundamental problems as the US - an unsustainable level of consumption, especially of raw materials. The recent tiff between Russian and Ukraine which threw big swaths of Europe into the cold because they didn't get adequate natural gas shipments is a harbinger of things to come.

I've written on the need to replace the capitalist growth model on my web site several times. Here's a typical piece:

Planning for a Steady-State Economy

Policies not Politics


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There i9s nothing in this post, nothing that isnt spot on. (4.00 / 2)
And its a complex exacting, clear eyed look at the world from an informed, well thought out position. There is so much thinking behind this simple nearly single paragraph statement that it beggars the mind. Even the title thunders forth in sensible grounded understanding.

This is where we need to go. Add in repairing the thin sparse layer of life supporting complexity we live in and we have full map for the future.

And yes I mean this too...

and better haircuts.


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The government has a defect: it's potentially democratic. Corporations have no defect: they're pure tyrannies. -Chomsky


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One Disagreement (0.00 / 0)
     There are a handful of Western European countries whose aggregate is higher, if compare GDP to National Debt.  

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I agree with most of what you say (4.00 / 2)
but a lot of the reason why earnings have stagnated have to do with macroeconomic policies favorable to the rich, with the end result of capital fleeing the country to tax shelters, and whose net result is the productivity/income gap.


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or even anonymous Obama administration officials who talk to David Brooks

Oh God, that was definitely one of the more pathetic spats on the left I've seen. The Obama administration tells a conservative journalist what they want to hear in vague almost indecipherable terms and gets a puff piece written about the admin? Break out the impeachment articles!


Exactly (0.00 / 0)


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The government has a defect: it's potentially democratic. Corporations have no defect: they're pure tyrannies. -Chomsky


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I find your commentary here just weird (0.00 / 0)
Look, if, as you argue, we are going to increase our overall spending permanently by some relatively huge jump, and that jump is supposed to represent some sign of great advance for progressive issues, don't you think it would be worthwhile to examine in at least detail what that increase might consist in?

Put another way, if it's something that we should very much want that's causing that increase, shouldn't that thing be readily identifiable?

To begin with, when comparing the US to other countries in terms of progressiveness of spending, don't you think it's pretty important to note that we have been spending 5%, give or take, over recent years, and that we are pretty much unique among the world's governments who spend anything like that amount? So if you subtract, say, 4% from your projections for the future of a ~40% of GDP spending rate, doesn't that put us back in a rather less impressive range?

And are we going to applaud the "progressive change" under Obama that allows us to spend nearly as much on another feckless war in Afghanistan as we have been in our misbegotten adventure in Iraq?

And, besides our continued war against Oceania, where are future increases in monies being spent? Well, the increase in SS represents some of that, but the increase in Medicare much, much more of it. Is the aging of our population, and the out-of-control rise in health care costs per person something a progressive should applaud as an implementation of new, progressive policy?

The only major item I can think of that progressives might applaud is the commitment to health care reform, which, as Obama means to implement it, requires new monies to be devoted to it. His budget devotes roughly $60B per year to it, as I recollect. This amounts to 0.4% of the GDP (60B/15T). (At another time, I might argue that even this budget item is misguided from a progressive point of view, because the program Obama means to implement entails a giveaway to corporate America. It enables health insurance companies to flourish, when they simply add great overhead to the system.)

As best I can make out, the health care initiative would appear to constitute the lion's share of the new commitments Obama is now implementing which he intends to be permanent. Let's throw in sundry others, including commitments to green energy, etc., and round it up to 1%.

Now unless you can come up with something that renders that a far more impressive figure, what are you applauding here, exactly? Why should we be so inspired?


Oops, (0.00 / 0)
I meant,

To begin with, when comparing the US to other countries in terms of progressiveness of spending, don't you think it's pretty important to note that we have been spending 5% on defense


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Obama needs to do what Reagan did (0.00 / 0)
and put the top tax rate at 50% like it was under Reagan, this would give us enough money for universal healthcare with plenty left over.

As if that would usher in the end of the world as we know it. Fox heads would just go pop. (0.00 / 0)
'pop'

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The government has a defect: it's potentially democratic. Corporations have no defect: they're pure tyrannies. -Chomsky


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Interesting (4.00 / 2)
A couple of observations/comments.

There are at least two reasons why I think the share of state expenditures is going up:

1.  The country is getting older and the cost of transfer payments is going up.  
2.  Cost Desease.  This theory postulated by Richard Baumol focuses on why certain parts of the economy are prone to ever increasing prices.  Baumol's explanation focused on the relative productivity of different parts of the economy.  His observation, initially offered to explain the soaring cost of theater tickets, noted that the number of people required to put on a play had not changed significantly, while the number of people required to make a car had steadily decreased.

Thise theory has been shown to at least partially explain rising price of health care in all economomies irregardless of their delivery model.  

Look at major segments of government spending: health care, defense, education.  Relative to the rest of the economy, productivity in these industries is growing more slowly.  As a result, EVEN IF YOU HELD THE LEVEL OF SERVICES CONSTANT, Baumol would predict the cost of providing these services will require real increases.

The graphs you present are misleading in one respect: the rise in the share of government has been financed by enourmous debt increases.  This obviously cannot continue forever.    


Although (4.00 / 2)
Baumol is certainly very relevant.

But the debt increases are mainly due to conservative shenanigans--massive tax cuts sold under false pretenses, plus lots of unproductive spending on their friends.  Debt can be controlled if nutball conservatives can be controlled.

Also, Baumol's projections can be mitigated (not prevented) somewhat by smart government spending, such as more spending on preventative health measures, including public health measures that don't even show up as such (like increasing the density and physical security of parks in low-income minority communities).  There are tremendous inefficiencies in the private health care system that can be eliminated, and in some instances we can even get more than one-time savings.

Achieving these will not be easy politically.  To the contrary, it will take a helluva fight.  All the more reason to highlight the importance involved.

"You know what they say -- those of us who fail history... doomed to repeat it in summer school." -- Buffy The Vampire Slayer, Season 6, Episode 3


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Something He Leaves Out (4.00 / 1)
    A lot of industries, since the 80's, took the short-sighted approach:  market dividends, mergers, preferred stock, privatization, going into different markets, short term planning, outsourcing, less job training, and especially big dips in R & D.  Now, they find themselves in a mess; the emperors are naked.  And to revive some of these industries, we are going to have pump more money than ought be the case.  

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Yes, But (4.00 / 3)
Two caveats: First, the projected drop-off brings us to less than 40%, as can be seen by adding another 4 years to the projections you're using:

Second, size isn't everything, as others have noted.  What the money is going for matters a lot, too.  And conservatives have realized this, finding it much easier to divert money to their preferred beneficiaries, rather than cutting spending.  Hence, government programs that send more and more money to private contractors, subsidies for the wealthy, etc.

These sorts of "conservative welfare state" formulas look like they will persist under Obama--getting cut back in some cases (recent military announcements), but generally expanding (as in Obama's health care planning).

So, this is not so much to dispute the main thrust of your argument, but to say that given its likelihood, we ought to be focusing much more attention on the questions that will really matter--which is how to make sure that the increases really do go to improve the general welfare, and to reduce the differences that divide us by raising the floor for those on the bottom, and increasing the universality of programs serving everyone.

"You know what they say -- those of us who fail history... doomed to repeat it in summer school." -- Buffy The Vampire Slayer, Season 6, Episode 3


I Agree 100% With This Assesment (4.00 / 2)
      The conservative hegemonic power structure has been able to create a world of magical loopholes, it seems, out of thin air; allowing Republicans and Democrats to give out subsidies and tax-breaks to too many powerful industries. Ironically, industries that don't even need them, and do the country more harm than good.  

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Hopeful Signs, Some Road Blocks, & Some Ideas (4.00 / 2)
Note:  For starters, I thinks the Center for Budget and Policy Priorities is a better guide over the last 35 years than usgovernmentspending.com

1. If we use the U-R numbers, unemployment is roughly 15% at the moment.

2. So, obviously full-employment should the most important goal:  higher employment creates more revenue, more spending (consumption taxes, etc.)  So that is the best source of revenue creation.

3.  Which brings up to the Employee Free Choice Act. If this does not get passed, we are in a world of trouble.  I think  progressives (anyone, we can form alliances with) should be an all out offensive.  

4.  Though, I do not think Obama's proposals for education reform and job training are up to par.  Though, it is definitely progress.

5. I still do not see, with our current election laws, that corporate welfare is going away any time soon.  The devil will be in the details of Obama's budget--which is the most progressive since LBJ. There are always ways to give out subsidies, tax breaks to industries that don't need them.  Their lobbyists are wickedly evil people who bypass, so find so many damm loopholes. The banking and financial industries are perfect examples.

6. Jame Galbraith Jr. wrote an excellent article in the Atlantic Monthly, in regards to stopping the recession and creating jobs. A significant part: use the Federal Gov't like FDR did to create Public Works Program--with very extended usage.  I do not see the Adminstration nor Congress calling for these programs.

7. After testifying on the Hill yesterday--I believe--Lawerence Wilkerson said, paraphrasing, "As a soldier, I say get out!"  Also, Murtha--as did Wilkerson--pointed out how costly the Afghanistan endeavor would be, using the Petraus Counter-Insurgency Handbook.  We will need up towards nearly 400,000 troops.  That may be an overstatement, but it is worth looking into.  Afghanistan can sink us.  I think there is no front that we need to push back as hard against as the Afghani War (we are pushing on the banking crisis already.)  We need to have Kerry and Levin hold a lot more hearings; so far, this has not happened.

8. State revenue-sharing would be a great policy to bring back on a permanent basis.

9. I see pay-roll tax increases as one of the most just forms of taxation. I think you may stated this in your diary.

10.  What about a minium wage increase? It worked in England.

11.  The other thing that was not mentioned was tax-shelters/haven that--from my reading--the Administration and Congress really want to go after. This would be completely inexcusable, if these tax havens are not curtailed significantly.

12.  As your diary indicates, an increase of spending is inevitable. I am wary how progressive that spending will be.  There are definite things to be happy about, however, too much emphasis on neo-liberal solutions for some the programs make me wary. For example, I think the education reforms are can be ineffective in some areas, causing more problems.  

  If the war in Afghanistan becomes more of a quagmire; if we don't get ECFA passed; the financial sector fixed soon; get more stimulus passed; and create Public Works Programs--I think the Obama Administration will have less political capital to work with, and making 2010 and 2012 pick-ups will harder.  Thus, making it harder to get even more progressive reform accomplished.

     Lastly, I agree with you that this is the most progressive agenda since LBJ on a domestic front.  Though, no Great Society.  Anyway, I hope to follow-up on this entry in more detail.  I posted comments that were not always relevant to your main premises.  Another thing, I realize that I come off arrogant and ignorant at times; this is not my intention.  Thanks for the Diary.


offtopic: Check out the Ed Show (4.00 / 4)
He ripped Lincoln and the centrist Democrats who oppose union employee free choice.


New Jersey politics at Blue Jersey.

Good (4.00 / 1)
If this is the fight!

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