Differences Between Senate and House Budget Resolutions

by: Chris Bowers

Wed Apr 08, 2009 at 13:17


A few days ago, the Senate and the House each passed budget resolutions. They are large PDF documents that you can read online, the Senate resolution here and the House resolution here. There are differences between the two versions, and removing those differences will necessitate a conference committee. The main reported difference is that the House version looks to pass President Obama's significantly increased health care investment through the "reconciliation" process, which would remove the threat of a Republican filibuster on health care in the Senate. The Senate version lacks such a provision, thus leaving the door open to a Senate Republican filibuster on increased health care investment.

There are, however, other differences. In terms of overall outlays, the Senate budget resolution is roughly $8.1 billion larger than the House resolution. To help describe these differences as accurately as possible, I have broken down the spending differences, by type, in the Senate and House budgets. You can see the entire breakdown here:

Senate vs. House budget Resolutions (PDF)

The primary differences are that the Senate allocates about $6.3 billion for defense, overseas military deployments, and international affairs. By contrast, the House allocates about $8.1 billion extra in outlays for Medicare and Income Security. Most of the remaining difference comes from the "allowances" section, where the House allocates roughly $7.43 billion in outlays than the Senate.

This information presents a major opportunity for effective, progressive activism that can shift between $6-8 billion in military spending in the Senate version toward the $6-8 billion in health care and income security spending in the house version. In addition, there is some very positive transparency language in the Senate version of the bill that is not in the House version because, as I understand it, amendments to the resolution were not allowed in the House. In addition for pushing reconciliation on health care, these would be real, strong, progressive improvements to the budget.

There is, however, one problem: a list of the participants in the budget conference committee is not currently available online. Or, at least, I was unable to find it after an hour of searching this morning. If, in the comments, anyone could supply such a list, it would help us put together an important activist campaign. Additionally, any other difference between the Senate and House budget resolutions would be extremely helpful. Please provide them in the comments.

Update: I have no confirmed that the conferees have not yet been chosen, nor has a conference committee date even been set. So, we are going to have to place the waiting game for now.

Also, note the large, $12 billion difference in transportation between the House and the Senate budget authorities. I'm not sure what this means, especially since the outlays are identical, but it is worth looking into.

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$6-8 billion (4.00 / 3)
My initial reaction was $6-8 billion was hardly enough to really matter.

Wow, is that warped or what?

The financial crisis has totally messed with my head when it comes to budgetary numbers.  Every number looks small to me now.  

Hopefully, that will actually make it easier to pass progressive spending measures as every expenditure seems small in comparison to our financial mess.

[Sorry, I've got nothing actually useful to provide.  I just found my initial reaction a bit telling of the times.]


I know what you mean (0.00 / 0)
$6-$8 doesn't sound like much when you consider the huge numbers we are dealing with. However, on its own, $6-$8 billion is huge.

Sometimes, it is difficult to maintain perspective when our problems seem so huge, but we need to remember that big change often comes in several small packages.


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I find it helpful to chose a standard (0.00 / 0)
Pick something that you are familiar with - a home, car, sports stadium, small business - whatever.  And convert dollar amounts into that standard.

For me, its 1 year budget to run a basic medical research laboratory with a staff of 2. That's roughly $350,000/year, including salaries, insurance, over head, supplies, the whole shebang.

It works for me because I understand what that lab represents.

$1,000,000,000 is roughly 2850 years of basic medical research in my small lab. No way I can consider these to be negligible amounts of money; you're talking 6 to 8 times that amount. That's roughly 2 MILLENIA of my research. The entire christian religion developed in less time than this pile of money would last in my research accounts.

Its a matter of perspective.



"It sounds wrong...
     ...but its right."


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well, it's only $20 per American (0.00 / 0)
300 million Americans, right, so it's not much per person.  Obviously any comparison of a government function to something the scale of a single people makes it seem ridiculous large.


New Jersey politics at Blue Jersey.

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Its more about a standard I can comprehend (0.00 / 0)
I get the $20 part, but 300 million is hard for me to understand.

"It sounds wrong...
     ...but its right."


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Estate tax (4.00 / 2)
I understand that in the Senate version of the budget they also included a reduction in the estate tax, but that this reduction is not in the House version?  Is this correct? If so this could be something to try to work against.

Also, I think this graph was shown here once before, but if you have not seen it it is a really great way to visualize the fact that the people that the estate tax will effect are very far removed from any of us.

http://www.lcurve.org/

Also, I am glad to see a post about legislation.  I remember your earier posts with lists of bills we might try to push.  I miss hearing/talking about that.


I Just Asked (0.00 / 0)
a staffer in McCaskill's office to find out and email me.

. (0.00 / 0)
IIRC, the main difference between the Senate bills and the House bills are the fact that the Senate bill gives us the time honored grand solution of unfunded entitlements. Too spineless to cut the entitlement, too spineless to tax and fund it.

No healthcare spending? Estate tax reducton? (0.00 / 0)
I presume that the lack of increased healthcare funding in the Senate version, will be allocated in tandem with the upcoming healthcare reform bill. But what the hell is a Reagan-Bush43 like estate tax cut doing in the budget? Ought there not be a tax hike instead? Seriously, it seems as if we have a hard-right majority in Congress.

Certainly the LieberDems are strong in the Senate (4.00 / 1)
Which makes sense, because Reid is hardly a rabid Marxist.

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