Let Them Eat $2,500 Taxpayer-Subsidized Ball Park Seats

by: David Sirota

Wed Apr 22, 2009 at 18:32


Michael Bloomberg is a genuinely nauseating human being - a union-bashing royalist who enjoys flaunting his obscene wealth in a city that seems intent on running its middle class into the ground and becoming the world's first city-sized gated community. Case in point is his insistence this week that there's absolutely nothing wrong with taxpayer-subsidized ballparks trying to charge taxpayers $2,500 per seat:

WASHINGTON - Mayor Bloomberg on Tuesday shrugged off the sky-high ticket prices fans are paying at city's two new baseball parks, built largely with tax-free government bonds.

"Don't ever think sports is anything but a business," Bloomberg said when asked about the prices for primo seats that can top $2,500 at the $1.5 billion new Yankee Stadium.

"These are great additions to the skyline of New York," Bloomberg said of the Bronx stadium and the new $875 million Citi Field home of the Mets in Queens...

"We put next to nothing into these two stadiums," Bloomberg said of public funding to support the ballparks, even though tax-free bonds paid for most of the construction costs.

Critics have charged that city spent hundreds of millions for neighborhood and transportation improvements around the ballparks.

To a billionaire, $2,500 is an affordable price to take in a ballgame. To the Rest of Us? Well, not so much.

That might be swell in a free market, but again, those stadiums weren't built by the free market - they were built, in part, with taxpayer cash. That's not "a business," as Bloomberg insists - when taxpayers pay for something, that's usually called "government" (or at least it used to be called that). And yet, now taxpayers are being rewarded for their investment with some of the highest prices for ballgame tickets ever charged (tickets that, btw, aren't even selling).

So even beyond the disgusting nature of a city spending taxpayer dollars that could go to, say, health care on sports stadiums is the even more disgusting image of a billionaire mayor defending those stadiums' attempt to continue fleecing taxpayers - a billionaire mayor who says that hundreds of millions of public dollars that could go into priorities like health care is "next to nothing."

Bloomberg is a guy Establishment pundits/reporters fawn over - likely because many of them worked for (or want to work for) his media empire, and because Establishment pundits/reporters generally worship money and power. He is billed as some sort of visionary progressive-conservative hybrid because every now and again he talks about "independence" and aims a few social/environmental policy speeches to the Upper West Side's limousine liberal crowd (and frankly, I'm sure more than one "progressive" blog reader will get upset at this characterization of Bloomberg out of a sense of limousine liberal solidarity with him - after all, let's just be honest, the Netroots hasn't exactly shown itself to be all that interested in working-class economic issues).

But despite the billing, if you listen to Bloomberg and watch what he actually does, you quickly realize he's an old-school royalist who should always be wearing a tophat, tuxedo and a monocle, a guy who doesn't give a shit about regular middle class taxpayers, except when he can buy their votes for reelection and force them to cough up cash for his corporate welfare scheme du jour.

Maybe that's perfectly fine - and even predictable - in a city whose paper of record claims that it's hard to live on a $500,000-a-year salary. But if it is fine to voters in New York, then the Big Apple is indeed a sad place that is quickly waving goodbye to the very middle- and working-class roots that made it so vibrant.

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hmmm.... (0.00 / 0)
These are good deals by modern standards.  Spending money on subways lines and the like is a legitimate activity for a city.  I also defended taxpayer money going to an overpass even though it is near the Microsoft campus.  I don't understand why "liberals" oppose government infrastructure.  

There is a 28,000 person waiting list for the Broncos seasons tickets. The typical taxpayer is literally not allowed to buy tickets. Yet I saw a light rail going to the stadium in Denver.  Was that wrong?  Should protesters tear up the rails?



New Jersey politics at Blue Jersey.


Anyone remember Bloomberg demonizing MTA strikers? (4.00 / 7)
The police and firefighters unions had all capitulated, selling out future workers for their own benefit. The MTA resisted. Bloomberg got on TV and basically called these people traitors. So much of NY politics run on ethnic loyalties. New York is a melting pot in many ways and a backward place in others.  That is why Clinton and other local Dems end up supporting a Republican.

Tell me how building a stadium for a filthy rich mofo (Jets owner) is "government infrastructure." Thank heavens Bloomberg lost that fight.

The funny part of Bloomberg's argument is the idea that all the wealthy will leave NY if not given tax breaks. Where are they going, to that stock market in Topeka, KS?


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I think that this a little overblown (0.00 / 0)
Michael Bloomberg has been pretty progressive on a fair number of issues, and while I'm not inclined to consider him a progressive per se, it seems a bit hyperbolic to describe him in exactly the same terms that I'd use to describe Richard Mellon Scaife.  

Indeed (4.00 / 3)
Yeah, I have to agree here. You're sliding away from rationality and into pure rhetoric land on this one.

I love New York, but the squeezing out of the middle class from NYC has everything to do with the dismantling of rent control, and not so much to do with luxury box prices at the new ballparks -- which are (relatively) less taxpayer-funded than most new stadiums built as tax free bonds are a lot cheaper than direct funds for building, which is the norm.

And anyway, the existence of high-end shit isn't in and of itself indicative of much. If you know where to go, you can also buy a shot of scotch that will cost you more than a hundred dollars. Doesn't mean there isn't plenty of Rheingold to be had for the rest of us.

Me | My Work | Future Majority


it's about subsidies and priorities -- he's poured tons of our money into private hands for tons of things, incl. govt services & programs -- (4.00 / 7)
he's done nothing for us -- and done tons for the wealthy and connected.

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he always sells subsidies to corps as "creating jobs" but they all lay off tons anyway -- (4.00 / 6)
and he never ties the money to jobs -- never ever regulates or restricts it in any way at all.

and his bias towards Wall St is enormous -- even now, he's giving laid-off finance workers tons of special aid -- and new jobs in govt -- but not the rest of us. --

City Will Help Retrain Laid-Off Wall Streeters -- http://www.nytimes.com/2009/02... --

... Under a program unveiled on Wednesday by Mayor Michael R. Bloomberg, the city wants to invest $45 million in government money to retrain investment bankers, traders and others who have lost jobs on Wall Street, as well as provide seed capital and office space for new businesses those laid-off bankers might create. ...

he hasn't even suggested this kind of thing for any other giant local industry or group of laid-off workers -- not media/publishing or fashion or ...


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It's true. And when he beat Ferrer, Ferrer was running on a platform (4.00 / 3)
of affordable housing. It was sickening to see all the so-called liberals defend Bloomberg when they couldn't point to a single progressive stance on Bloomberg's part other than his support for gay rights. As I said in a post above, so much of NY politics run on ethnic loyalties. Ethnic and racial divides run through a city known as a bastion for liberalism.

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I Didn't Support Bloomberg (4.00 / 1)
but couldn't support Ferrer (I voted for a 3rd party candidate). The guy was a hack out of the corrupt Bronx machine.  For the record, I have direct experience with Ferrer and do not think he was up for the job of Mayor.

What is sad is how piss poor the Dem candidates for Mayor have been going back to 1997 with Ruth Messinger.  In a city with so many Dems I wonder why we can't find a strong candidate.  I sense the strong politicians would much rather run for Gov or Sen so we end up with the 2nd and 3rd tier.


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You could be right about that. (4.00 / 2)
But what was wrong with Messinger? She got so little support. It was almost as if no one could turn down the raging white male, and the Dems thought this way, too. There's something so primitive about local NY politics--it runs purely on political power. You can't say Bloomberg isn't better than Giuliani, but both have a fundamental distrust of the people, and are born dictators.

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Messinger, Green, Ferrer Were All (4.00 / 1)
weak candidates.  Messinger barely beat Al Sharpton in the primary.  Need I say more.

Being Mayor of NYC involves managing a city with 8 million residents and 300K employees.  I, for one, want someone who clearly appears to be a good manager.  

Obama didn't have much managerial experience but you sensed he could handle the job.  

I think Bill Thompson could be a very good Mayor.  I am afraid he is going to get swamped by Bloomberg's money.


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Gay rights seems to be the new smokescreen... (4.00 / 1)
...for otherwise conservative candidates...  Corporate Blue Dog Dem?  No problem... Just say you are for gay marriage and hope no one notices...  This is going to become an increasing tactic for blue dogs in majority democratic districts, like Rep. Harmon, to make them seem more progressive than they really are.

REID: Voting against us was never part of our arrangement!
SPECTER: I am altering the deal! Pray I don't alter it any further!
REID: This deal keeps getting worse all the time!


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Oh God. Have you read Greenwald's recent blog? (0.00 / 0)
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You Are Right Josh (4.00 / 2)
The rent control cap of $2,000 is what is driving out the middle class, especially in Manhattan south of 96 Street which is becoming only affordable for the wealthy.  Landlords have found all sorts of ways to get apts above the cap.  Unfortunately rent stabilization is not under City Hall's control but instead is handled in Albany.  There have been attempts to return control to the city but they never go anywhere.

I dislike Bloomberg, have never voted for him and am supporting Bill Thompson for Mayor.  However, I find the guy a total contracdiction.  Bloomberg has pushed a lot of progressive policies including congestion pricing, more subway lines, increased public health funding, and requirements that fast food restaurants post calories of the food.  His school initiatives are a definite improvement over the corrupt school boards that preceeded them but there is a total lack of transparency which is highly frustrating.  

The flip side is he has completely sold Manhattan out to the developers.  

The one common thread with Bloomberg is he runs the city like a corporation with little transparency.  I find the lack of public input troubling.


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it's 2500 now, thankfully -- and it's rent stabilization, not rent control (0.00 / 0)
rent control is different & only applies to people who moved in during the early 70s or before -- and has no annual increases at all.

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and the rent guidelines board is not an Albany thing, but entirely NYC -- (0.00 / 0)
http://www.housingnyc.com/html... -- NYC Rent Guidelines Board

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Rent Stabilization Laws Are Originated in Albany (4.00 / 1)
under the Urstadt Law.  State Senator Liz Krueger has introduced legislation for a number of years to overturn the Urstadt Law and given NYC govt the ability to set its own rent rules.  Under the current laws from Albany, the Mayor and NY City Council have no control over which apts are subject to rent stabilization.  The Rent Guidelines Board only sets the yearly rent increases.


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You Are Correct It Is Rent Stabilization. (0.00 / 0)
When did the cap go up to $2,500?  It was $2,000 as the end of last year.

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now i can't find links -- maybe it wasn't approved in the end? (0.00 / 0)
they had changed it to 2500/month, and also upped the income de-regulation figure too..

still hunting tho.


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i think it's stuck in Albany -- like so many things -- (0.00 / 0)
http://www.gothamgazette.com/a... -- (City) Council Extends Rent Stabilization

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the latest is trying to get religious schools classified as "charter" so our public money will fund them -- illegally (4.00 / 4)
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/04... -- City Tries New Tactic to Convert Catholic Schools to Charter Schools ---

The city has adopted a new strategy in its effort to turn two Catholic schools into charter schools, and will no longer press for changes in state law to accomplish the conversion.

Seeking to avoid a potentially drawn-out battle in Albany, city education officials have decided to try to get around a 1998 state ban on converting private schools to charter schools by arguing that the new charter schools, which are publicly financed but independently run, will open as entirely new schools. ...



on Bloomberg's ""Panel for Educational Puppets" (8 of 13 seats are his personal picks) (0.00 / 0)
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/04... --
Controlling Interests
Panel Is No Threat to Bloomberg's Grip --

In a nearly empty high school auditorium one evening last month, parents, teachers and cynics marched to the microphone, turned to the collection of volunteers derisively called the Panel for Educational Puppets, and began to scream.

A vocational school teacher in East New York, Brooklyn, accused bureaucrats of manipulating college enrollment data. Parents protested a plan to move their school to East Harlem from Midtown. And Olaiya Deen, the mother of a third grader, deplored the proliferation of charter schools and "Madison Avenue" marketing blitzes to promote them in her neighborhood....

It is a ritual that unfolds monthly around the city at each meeting of the Panel for Educational Policy, the oversight group that replaced the independent Board of Education when the State Legislature handed New York's mayor control of its sprawling school system in 2002.

In designing the mayoral takeover, lawmakers viewed the panel as critical to maintaining a "balance of authority," and promised it would have a "meaningful role" on citywide education policy and approve major contracts, according to the authorizing language that accompanied the bill.

But Mayor Michael R. Bloomberg - who controls 8 of the panel's 13 seats - made plain during the negotiations that he preferred no panel at all, and over the past seven years, he and Schools Chancellor Joel I. Klein, who doubles as the panel's chairman, have eased it into irrelevance.

The volunteer panelists - an investment banker, a lingerie store owner and an expert on electromagnetics among them - rarely engage in discussions with those who rise to address them. They do not debate the educational issues of the day, but spend most sessions applauding packaged presentations by staff. Some have barely uttered a public word during their tenures. ...



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personally (0.00 / 0)
I'm much more interested in what the average or low-end seats are going for.  The fact that there are some $2500+ super-sweet seats doesn't bother me much.

The University Of Arkansas @ Jonesboro (0.00 / 0)
was selling general admission seats last year for $50.

$50?

To see the fighting Joneses tussle with Arkansas-PineBluff, and South-South-Eastern Oklahoma State...

I bet you cant get INTO either place for less than $25...


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Over priced (4.00 / 2)
The Yankees have a few obstructed view seats in the outfield for $5 but most seats seem to be $90 and way up.  A newspaper article was talking about Yankee hoodies (the sweats) for $70 (plain) or $125 for one with rhinestones.  A huge tub of popcorn was $12.

In comparison to the $2,500 seats at Yankee stadium the top priced tickets at its division rivals are $325 for the Red Sox, $270 for the Tampa Bay Rays, $210 for the Toronto Blue Jays (with "recession buster Tuesdays topping out at $57) and an $80 top price for "super premium" games at Orioles Park at Camden Yards.

Mets prices more than doubled but they are nowhere near the new Yankee rates. Bernie Madoff's Mets tickets were $495 per game at the season ticket rates.  IIRC that was $695 for the top price.

It looks like the top price for an Oriole ticket is less than the average price for a Yankee ticket.  Those $38 per ticket Met box seats (not so great) from a few years ago look like real deals.  


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Grandstand and bleachers <= $30 on game day (4.00 / 1)
According to the Yankees site.

They're definitely far away, but I can't imagine them being worse than the upper deck in the old stadium, which required climbing gear and a sherpa.  Factor in inflation for 25 years, and they don't seem that bad.

Of course, the attention grabbers are those $2500 seats (and, frankly, that anything in the 100 sections are $150 and up).  Interesting pictures from Paul Katcher though, indicate that Yankees fans are voting with their feet.

Generally, NYC clearly got taken to the cleaners by the Yankees and Mets (thought not as bad as other municipalities - most recently Miami with the Marlins), but I object to the notion that no money should go to things that aren't of strict utility to a city.  To this day people like Ben Jovrasky in the Chicago Reader complain about the cost of Millenium Park ($270 million paid by taxpayers, the rest by corporate sponsors), but I'm convinced that it makes Chicago a better place to live.  For example, Crown Fountain is one place in Chicago where I see children from all ethnicities and backgrounds play together in this city.  I realize that there's some significant differences between the two situations - people aren't being charged admission to go to MP - but the larger notion that our cities (or we, for that matter) should live lives of asceticism until our balance sheets are pure is Puritanism at its worst.


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What you say about the public funding of stadiums doesn't apply to New York. (0.00 / 0)
The Yankees and Mets are enormously popular, unlike the Marlins. They make money on cable, on the number of televisions they reach, so a huge influx of money comes automatically, due to the population. NY is a baseball-crazy town. What team in their right mind would leave? It is NY that serves the Yankees and the Mets, not the other way around.  

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Winning and promotion generate continuous revenue, not tax breaks (0.00 / 0)
Frankly, I'm not sure what you're reading from my comment.  I said that the Yankees and Mets deals were bad, but not as bad as the Marlins.  I don't think either city should have made these deals.

As for the "NY is a baseball-crazy town", I can assure you from countless games in the Ed Whitson/Steve Kemp/Jesse Barfield era (and on the Mets side, the Lee Mazilli/Doug Flynn/Dave Kingman era), when NY baseball stadiums were ghost towns, that you need to amend your statement to "NY is a winning baseball-crazy town", same as any other.  The Cubs might be the only team where their attendance is somewhat more inelastic with respect to winning, but even for them, the way to generate huge profits is to consistently win, end of story.

As for "who would leave?"  I'm sure others asked the same question about the Dodgers and Giants.  Different media environments, to be sure, but the point is that it was unthinkable at the time.

However, I agree that the NY metro area is almost certainly the best place for a winning baseball team to be.  Note, though, that NY metro area doesn't just cover NYC, as the NFL Jets and Giants have demonstrated.

If NYC had played hardball, would the Yankees have moved to the Meadowlands?  I don't think any NYC mayor would have pulled a Michael Corleone and offered "nothing" -- though NYC deserved much better negotiators than Giuliana and Bloomberg -- so I'm doubtful it would ever happen, but let's play "what if"?  It would come down to the difference in revenue being outweighed by the extra money NJ was offering.  Attendance might take a hit, and would certainly be less resilient to any downswing of fortunes, but YES Network wouldn't see any difference, and that might be the most valuable asset that leverages the team.

So there are scenarios where someone in their "right mind" would jump across the Hudson.  As I say above, NYC was going to pay something, just not this much.


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This really is not a progressive issue (0.00 / 0)
The only people who would get those seats if they were taxpayer subsidized and set to 50 dollars a seat are the politically connected.

So while having prime seats may matter to you it certainly is not a progressive issue.

http://transgendermom.blogspot....


This post is not about the seats. It is about Bloomberg's attitude (4.00 / 3)
and the general shift toward the wealthy.

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taking public park land for this certainly is -- and Obama hired the guy to head Urban Affairs too -- Carrion -- (4.00 / 2)
Cause for Concern as Carrion Begins National Post

Former Bronx borough prez backed Bloomy's Yankee giveaway -- http://saveourparks.blogspot.c...

Adolfo Carrion, the borough president of the Bronx, has been appointed as White House director of urban affairs. He has done some good things in the Bronx: helping to revitalize run-down areas, presiding over a borough of great diversity and handling contending groups with tact.

But he made one major mistake. He went along with Mayor Bloomberg in a massive giveaway to the New York Yankees, the richest sports franchise in America. City Hall provided hundreds of millions dollars in tax-exempt bonds to the Yankees to help them build a new stadium on the site of a popular neighborhood park. The old stadium is supposed to be replaced by new parks on that site and elsewhere but, thus far, little has been done to keep that promise.

As Bronx borough president, Carrion, some believe, was duty-bound to do everything possible to hang on to park land for the adults and kids of the Bronx. Instead, he acquiesced to the Bloomberg deal. ...



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and Obama's (privatizing) Housing pick was a Bloomberg guy too -- Donovan -- (4.00 / 1)
http://www.nowpublic.com/world... -- Obama Named New York Housing Commissioner to Head HUD  

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The yankees suck anyway (0.00 / 0)
They got the highest payroll in baseball but they couldn't even make the playoffs last year. The new yankee stadium was a waste, what was wrong with the house Ruth built? And it's ridiculous to use taxpayer dollars to build a stadium and then charge $2500 for tickets in a recession. Your fans are struggling and paid to have the stadium built, but can't afford to go to a game, that's bullshit.

Blago's Deputy Mayor is running the re-election campaign, btw -- Tusk -- (4.00 / 1)
Bloomberg Turns Over His Next Campaign to Blagojevich's Ex-Deputy -- http://www.villagevoice.com/20...

... Tusk is now in charge of an operation that has promised-on the front page of the Times, no less-to spend $20 million on attack ads against anyone who dares get in the way of the mayor's trifecta. While many New Yorkers will never come to know who Tusk is over the course of the coming months, his message for Mike will be coming at us in our living rooms and mailboxes at a peak rate of millions of dollars a week.

If Tusk succeeds, his strategy will shape the city's public life for the next four crisis years. He's not the mayor, of course, but he is, right now, the second most important player in our politics, orchestrating the frontrunner's every move, dispensing a fortune in a time of scarcity, studying the best polls about our fears, and guiding our fingers invisibly toward whichever column carries Bloomberg's name on November's ballot.

That's why it's important to know all about the last sale Tusk made: helping to re-elect Rod Blagojevich in 2006 from his post at the helm of Blagojevich's government. And that's why Bloomberg's embrace of him-without any independent examination of his record in Illinois-raises questions about a mayor who increasingly appears to act and speak on impulse,
having traded in the open mind for thoughtful detail that characterized him when he first ran for mayor. ...



i agree with a lot on this post, but this is a bit much (0.00 / 0)
I've recently started reading this blog and agree with most of the posts, but "Michael Bloomberg is a genuinely nauseating human being - a man who enjoys flaunting his obscene wealth" is a bit much.

Without commenting on his performance as mayor, isn't he just the kind of wealthy person that we should applaud? He built a company from nothing. As an american who has lived a number of years in sub-saharan Africa, don't take for granted the benefits of a system that allows for this type of creativity. In this part of the world, you get rich my being a Minister or the President's kid.

Is it not possible to be critical of a policy without demonizing the wealthy? Especially someone who didn't inherit his money.

As for the stadium funding, i don't think any public money should be used. I think it's a big ripoff of the taxpayers.


The first million is the hardest... (4.00 / 1)
The problem with our laws and economic system is that the first million is indeed the hardest because the system is stacked against you.  After than first million the rules are all of the sudden completely in your favor.

Bloomberg should be applauded for getting to that first million, after than he should be applauding us for allowing our elected officials to tilt the table entirely in his favor once he got rich.


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all he does is cut out the middleman -- instead of buying pols, he became one -- and buys others too -- (0.00 / 0)
wealthy people amassing power directly and using it to enrich his class alone doesn't even pretend to be responsive.

since he decided he wanted a third term (which is illegal), he's bought up the city council votes he needed -- even tho they'd explicitly rejected third terms 2x before -- all it took was a billionaire mayor making promises to get enough votes.

it corrupts all of city govt -- and it doesn't help us. And he can outspend ALL other pols by actual billions if he wants to.  

our other regional billionaire pol -- Corzine (exCEO of Goldman) -- is in trouble too.


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Bloomberg Returned Seats (0.00 / 0)
I seem to recall reading that Bloomberg returned seats to the team which were supposed to have gone to the city.  It sounded as if he was concerned about claims of cronyism in their use.  Yeah, as if that wasn't going to happen anyway.

What I couldn't understand is why the city didn't realize it had a great tool to use for the citizens of the city.  The city could have held a lottery to give a pair of tickets to registered citizens in the city.  It could have been sold as return on the city's helping to subsidize the debt for the stadiums' building.  They might have used the tickets as an inducement to gladly serve in the city's jury pools, which is always a problem.  Instead, Bloomberg returned the ducats because he couldn't take his friends to the games without being excoriated and who wants the unwashed enjoying games in the luxury seats with the masters of the universe?


When Sincerely Concerned Americans (4.00 / 3)
showed up in his city on Feb. 15, 2003, to protest the Iraq War, Bloomberg sicced his NYPD Gestapo on them.  Did the same thing in 2004 at the Republican Convention.  The man and his police are pigs.

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