Reagan More Socialist Than FDR

by: Chris Bowers

Thu Apr 30, 2009 at 13:20


As I have tried to reveal in several articles this month, the "fiscal conservative" philosophy to which Republicans, and many Democrats, claim to adhere is a complete fabrication. Over the last 140 years, no politician or political party has ever actually reduced the size of government spending relative to the overall size of the economy in any significant, long-term way. During this entire period, excepting for the end of the two world wars, government spending has consistently increased relative to the overall size of the economy. It has happened to such a degree that even fiscal conservative icons such as Ronald Reagan, Newt Gingrich, and Tom DeLay advocated for a much larger government than either FDR or LBJ. To phrase this historic trend in the current lingo of conservatives, Ronald Reagan was far more "socialist" than FDR.

It is fairly simple to prove that Regan was ore "socialist" than the New Deal or Great Society, if the size of government spending relative to the overall size of the economy is examined. The following chart graphs the percentage of government spending relative to the overall size of the economy during the peak era of Republican political power: fiscal year 1982 (Reagan's first budget) through fiscal year 2007 (the final budget passed when Republicans controlled both Congress and the White House).

This chart is even taken from a pro-teabagging site. It shows that government spending was 36.30% the total size of the economy in 1982, and ended up at 35.53% in 2007. This minuscule change of less than 1% is the entire "limited government" accomplishment of fiscal conservatism. Further, the variation of government spending relative to the overall economy is also quite narrow, with no changes in either direction of more than 4.12% during the entire period. Overall, these levels of spending are also far beyond the level of government spending undertaken during the peak years of Democratic political power, fiscal year 1934 (FDR's first budget) to fiscal year 1969 (the final pre-Nixon year of Democratic control of the White House and Congress):


According to this chart, outside of World War Two, government spending under FDR and LBJ reached an all-time high of 30.07% in 1969. This compares to an all-time low of 32.55% under Reagan. As such, by their own standards, conservatives must label Ronald Reagan as more socialist than FDR, he of the New Deal, or LBJ, he of The Great Society. Under FDR, government spending consistently hovered at around 20% of GDP, compared to 35% under Reagan. This actually makes Reagan nearly twice as socialist as FDR.

Some Republicans believe they can regain power by distancing themselves from the Bush years, and "returning" to a clear, populist articulation of a "limited government" philosophy. The problem with such an idea is that there is no actual example of this "limited government" philosophy in practice. No politician or political party has ever significantly reduced the size of government over the long-term. Because of this, pretty much all self-identified "fiscal conservatives" are either lying about, or entirely ignorant of, the size of government they actually support.

Chris Bowers :: Reagan More Socialist Than FDR

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Further (4.00 / 1)
While they cam score points attacking the "size" of government, a simple look at a pie chart will show that one cannot reduce the ACTUAL size of the government without drastically cutting the military, Medicare or Social Security. Every time they bemoan the size of government, we need to make them explain which one of these they plan to cut, since they've obviously chosen to not run surpluses so that they can pay down debt to avoid inerest payments.  

Exactly (0.00 / 0)
That is the next post I will be making. "Fiscal conservatives" attack extremely marginal amounts of spending, and never actually advocate for the cuts of $500 billion or more that would make a real dent in the size of government spending relative to the overall size of the economy. They attack earmarks, volcano monitoring, and the national endowment for the arts, but rarely attack the main aspects of government that have put us in the high-30% / low-40% range.

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I think they can play the "no big government" canard again (0.00 / 0)
if the Geithner bailouts fail.

They can attack the Democrats for being in the pocket of big business and spending lavishly to prop up the fat cats. They can also pound away at the Fed and its poorly understood programs in pouring trillions of dollars into the economy.

If the stimulus proves insufficient, they can claim it failed because it was wasteful government spending, and, as an alternative, can suggest that churches and religious organizations step in to take the place of government-run social programs. They can insist that government funding for "faith-based" programs be vastly expanded.

Theocratic GOP leaders like Huckabee are bound to make that argument--and it is a resonant one in America, where you have to be publicly pious or you're viewed with suspicion.

Kills two birds with one stone--dismantles the social safety net and further erodes the establishment clause by empowering churches and giving them government funds. And once they have those funds they can spend them on feeding and helping out the poor, thus gaining the gratitude of those they help. And a lot of those people will vote for whomever their benefactors tell them to.

It's a clever strategy.


Based on that graph (0.00 / 0)
It's hard to argue that Bill Clinton didn't reduce the size of government spending "relative to the overall size of the economy in any significant, long-term way".

From 1992 until 2000, the graph line steadily goes down with only a slight roadbump in 1995!


As robots displace human labor (4.00 / 1)
we will need a more massive welfare state than ever.

Some futurists like to bray about how robots will reach human intelligence in 2040 or some such number; what they often forget to tell you is how intelligent they will be in 2042; now that's scary...


the Reagan of their fantasies (0.00 / 0)
is so different from the real-world Reagan, it's absurd. The real Reagan signed many tax increases, both as governor and as president. Today's Reagan worshippers don't accept any circumstances in which raising taxes is ok.

Join the Iowa progressive community at Bleeding Heartland.

im so happy (0.00 / 0)
this type of data makes me so giddy, i cant wait to print this out and hand it out to republicans i know,

oh yes the real world has a liberal bias, backed up by facts

whatever you think people owe you, that is what you owe people


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