Pelosi's Trouble Highlights Bush Abuse of Gang-Of-Eight

by: Daniel De Groot

Wed May 13, 2009 at 22:02


Let me start with the obvious, that yes, if Pelosi knew there were war crimes being committed by the administration, and failed to try to stop it, even at risk of prison time for violating secrecy laws, then that deserves condemnation, loss of her Speaker's gavel and perhaps even prosecution.  I certainly think her and the other members of Congress who were at all briefed on these activities should be part of any investigation that takes place.  That said, let's not get carried away and equate people who merely know about a crime, and those who actively plan and execute that crime.  Morally there is a significant difference there.

However her predicament highlights a lesser feature of multiple Bush Administration intelligence scandals that needs more attention:  Bush's penchant for only having the Gang-Of-Eight briefed, rather than the full Intelligence Committees of the House and Senate.  This decision was quite deliberate, and legally it is highly consequential in so far as it eviscerates Congress' ability to conduct meaningful oversight or legislative check on the Executive branch.

Daniel De Groot :: Pelosi's Trouble Highlights Bush Abuse of Gang-Of-Eight
Sam Stein at the Huffington Post took a look at this recently:


As documented by the Congressional Research Service, the President is required to ensure "that the congressional intelligence committees are kept 'fully and currently informed' of U.S. intelligence activities, including any 'significant anticipated intelligence activity.'" The basis of this is the 1991 Intelligence Authorization Act, which places a statutory obligation on the President to not just keep relevant committees "fully and currently informed" but to disclose "any significant anticipated intelligence activity."

"The requirement to report significant anticipated activities means, in practice, that the committees should be advised of important new program initiatives and specific activities that have major foreign policy implications," reads language accompanying the FY 1991 Intelligence Authorization Act.

The congressional research memo he mentions breaks the briefings the President is responsible for into two categories; intelligence and "covert action" defined so:


The term covert action is defined in statute to mean "... an activity or activities of the United States Government to influence political, economic, or military conditions abroad, where it is intended that the role of the United States Government will not be apparent or acknowledged publicly..." See the National Security Act of 1947, Sec. 503 [50 U.S.C. 413b] (e). (p3 footnote 8)

The footnote goes on to discuss how this definition was first included in statute in the 1991 Intelligence authorization act, and indirectly gets across the point that this was a Congressional response to Iran/Contra.  Important to note, because Bush's activities here are certainly more than an echo of Iran/Contra, and by failing to properly brief the full committees, Bush was certainly flouting the intent of this legislation, though I will leave it to lawyers to figure out if he actually violated this law.  Nonetheless, the definition above clearly does not include either the TSP or the Enhanced Interrogation Program, as neither even remotely qualifies as efforts to influence conditions abroad and were instead, obviously efforts to gather intelligence.

The distinction is important, as on page 5 the CRS piece quotes the parts of the statutes that allow a lesser briefing to the G8 for covert actions under certain circumstances.  So for other "intelligence" matters, the law requires that the full committees be briefed, and even provided additional information they may require:  


[...]the Director of Central Intelligence and the heads of all departments, agencies, and other entities of the United States Government involved in intelligence activities shall - (1) keep the congressional intelligence committees fully and currently informed of all intelligence activities, other than a covert action (as defined in section 413b(e) of this title), which are the responsibility of, are engaged in by, or are carried out for or on behalf of, any department, agency, or entity of the United States Government, including any significant anticipated intelligence activity and any significant intelligence failure;[...]

This has been an issue before, during the fallout of the revelation of the illegal TSP mass wiretapping program, AG Gonzales tried to defend the program by claiming that the Gang-Of-Eight Congresspeople who were briefed on the program had assented to it.  Numerous "G8" Democrats contested this, (including Pelosi) claiming they had objected.  Jane Harman would go on to say in a speech:


[...]When the program was established, the administration provided what I would call "drive-by Power Point presentations" for the so-called "Gang of Eight" in Congress. I became a member of that Gang of Eight in early 2003 as ranking member on intelligence and so, I participated in those presentations after the first year of the program. Those of us in the room, usually the Situation Room in the White House, had no opportunity to consult with our staff, outside lawyers or even keep our own notes. After the president was forced to acknowledge the program's existence, I fought to get the full intelligence committees briefed.[...]

Republican Heather Wilson also objected to this practice back in February 2006:


Senior administration officials also say they were within the law when Bush and Vice President Cheney chose to brief only Congress' so-called "Gang of Eight" - the leaders of the House and Senate and its intelligence committees.

While the Gang of Eight can be notified, Wilson believes "that is not oversight," Hannahs said.

She's absolutely right, and to the point that I don't actually see what the point of Gang-of-Eight briefings is supposed to be.  Legally, no one who receives such a briefing can realistically do anything with the information they receive there.  Arguably, they could try and pass laws or defund programs they object to, but with only a handful of other members who know that they know, what are the odds they would be successful, lacking any ability to explain why they might be trying to stop some practice legislatively?

The key here is to remember that individually, members of Congress have no actual power or authority.  Other than the protections of the Speech and Debate clause, they are ordinary citizens from a legal perspective.  Their power only comes as a whole, and to a lesser but significant extent, in Committees.  Congressional Committees can issue subpoenas, hold hearings, compel testimony under oath, issue authoritative reports and report suitable legislation to the full chambers.  Members, even the Speaker or Senate Majority Leader cannot do any of these things.  The full committees have staff, lawyers with security clearances, and can keep records, notes and demand documents.  As Harman noted, she couldn't even take her own hand written notes out of those briefings.

An example of this difference between individual members and "congress" can be found in the part of US law which makes it a crime to lie to Congress, U.S. Code : Title 18 : Section 1001, in particular section (c), which says:


(c) With respect to any matter within the jurisdiction of the
  legislative branch, subsection (a) [the bit criminalizing lying] shall apply only to -
      (1) administrative matters, (...blah blah...)
      (2) any investigation or review, conducted pursuant to the authority of any committee, subcommittee, commission or office of  the Congress, consistent with applicable rules of the House or Senate.

The limitation is such that you can lie to any individual member of Congress, but if you are speaking to a committee or other formal part of Congress, then you are required to be truthful.  The idea here is to not make people afraid to send angry letters to their member for fear of prosecution.

I highly suspect that the "Gang of Eight" doesn't meet the definition under article (2) and thus the Administration was actually free to lie in these briefings if they wanted.  I don't know if they actually did lie in the G8 briefings (and the lack of transcripts makes it impossible to ever know), but I can believe having this extra bit of leeway probably appealed to the administration.

The effect magnifies when you consider that the full Committees would then have a lot more ability to halt anything they didn't approve of.  Since the Intel Committees control the secret Intelligence budgets, they would be free to defund programs they didn't approve of without divulging classified info.  They would also have a better chance of having the entire Congress approve changes in law that they might not be able to explain.  

As a bonus, telling the G8 has the nice side effect of implicating your political adversaries in your criminal conduct in a manner which leaves them no legal way to stop you.  Hence the secret and useless sternly worded letters objecting to what they heard from Rockefeller and Harman.  I have a low enough opinion of Cheney to imagine he was quite amused by those toothless and obsequious letters.

So now Pelosi may end up in some trouble.  So be it.  But when it comes time to fix all this, Congress would be wise to consider abolishing these Gang Of Eight briefings, or giving the Gang members some formal committee-like ability to react to the information they receive.  "Oversight" has two key ingredients: 1) information and 2) the ability to act on that information.  The Gang briefings are sorely lacking in that second criteria, and this needs fixing.


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And now we start to eat our own (4.00 / 1)
even at risk of prison time for violating secrecy laws, then that deserves condemnation, loss of her Speaker's gavel and perhaps even prosecution.

I have not been at OpenLeft long, but I speak from a long of history of progressive activism.  

To call for the prosecution of Speaker Pelosi seems to be a bit over the edge.

I can accept attacks on the conservative Democrats in the mission for more and better Democrats. I have not seen and proof that Pelosi has reason to deserve scorn for her actions in the torture approval process.

The attempt by the CIA to tie her into the mess can and should be treated for what it is, "Wag the Dog."

I will now resume my work on advancing the Progressive agenda.


It was not (4.00 / 4)
A "call" to prosecute her.  Try reading more carefully.  If she really knew war crimes were being committed and did nothing to stop it, what would you suggest then?

I'm not being coy and I try to write exactly what I mean without subterfuge or between the lines suggestion.  


[ Parent ]
It seems to suggest that she should have violated the law. (4.00 / 1)
If she would have made public the information she could have guilty of a crime.

I agree with the premise that it was wrong (and likely illegal) for the torture to have been done.

The reason that I am trying to take your post to task is that the folks trying to pin some blame on Pelosi are the supporters of the CIA that are making the argument that, "We told the Democrats, so they are at fault for not stopping us."

I think that there needs to be a different system for oversight of the CIA, you make a good point that the current system does not work. But I think there also needs to be broad reform over how the power of the countries intel community are used.

I still think that to bring Pelosi into the discussion is buying into the distraction that is being created by those who wish to take the discussion far away from the fact that the torture was being used to justify the attack on Iraq by making a link to the 9/11 attack.


[ Parent ]
Yes (4.00 / 5)
Sometimes doing the right thing requires people to violate the law.  

The classic Thoreau anecdote comes to mind:


There is a story, that Emerson passed by, and seeing his friend Thoreau behind bars for not paying war taxes asked him what he was doing in there. Thoreau replied simply, "What are you doing out there?"

Perhaps it is too much to ask, but then I think that she has sought out a position in life of great power, can we not place similarly higher responsibility on her?  Perhaps an ordinary citizen can be forgiven for refusing to stop a serious crime, but what about someone who volunteered to be a watch dog of democracy, to serve in Congress, and not just serve, but lead there.  The burden must be heavier, so perhaps it is not too much to ask that such a person risk prison in order to stop monsters.

But I do agree with your suspicions about the various characters who are pushing this story and why, but their shitty motives don't clear her either.

Anyway, the overall point is that if Pelosi is culpable (and that is an "if"), then she too cannot escape some accounting for that.  However any scenario in which Pelosi is in serious legal difficulty is also one in which Bush and Cheney are in hand cuffs, so ironically, dragging Pelosi into it might be a big mistake for the right, since that would prove this isn't a "partisan witch hunt."


[ Parent ]
The MSM and The GOP (0.00 / 0)
would have branded her a liberal, communist, etc; who was aiding and abetting torturers.

Also, Harrman wrote asking about the policies and they basically shut the door on her.

Remember, what they did to Barbara Lee, bc she did not vote for the Patriot Act (I apologize, it may have been one of her vote regarding the war), she had to get 24/7 an hour security.

Bob Grahmm's book on this entire debacle is very illuminating.  Interestingly, he said he was never briefed.

At any rate, very informative diary.  


[ Parent ]
Actually, Daniel already addressed this (4.00 / 5)
Other than the protections of the Speech and Debate clause...

She could have got up and said what every she wished about this issue in the House - no law could touch her for doing so, it would be unconstitutional.

I don't mean to pick on Pelosi.  Plenty of people in Congress failed to uphold their oath to the Constitution in other ways.  People in the Executive Branch should resign and tell Congress (at the least) rather the be part of unconstitutional or illegal actions.  The fact that others did worse (and they surely did) is important, but it does not excuse anyone.

Politics is the art of the possible, but that means you have to think about changing what is possible, not that you have to accept it in perpetuity.


[ Parent ]
I stand educated on the Speech and Debate clause. n/t (0.00 / 0)


[ Parent ]
I wish more people would do the same (0.00 / 0)
Up with obscure Constitutional provisions!

Politics is the art of the possible, but that means you have to think about changing what is possible, not that you have to accept it in perpetuity.

[ Parent ]
The whole national security apparatus (4.00 / 5)
is based on the idea that we can do without law as long as the President consults with (members of) Congress.  Obviously, that depended on a president being willing to cooperate (which is laughable, given history.) But even when it has worked as intended, it missed the point.

The Constitution doesn't give power over national security and foreign policy issues to both the President and Congress because its important for those branches to have that power for its own sake.  It distributes power in that way in order to empower the people to hold their government accountable.

The solution is not to bring back the old, cooperative approach to national security, its to reestablish law as its basis.  Making committees, rather than members, have the oversight role, is a great idea, and should be part of this larger project. (Another would be a serious reduction in the government's ability to use secrecy, which is obviously relevant to all this.)  

Politics is the art of the possible, but that means you have to think about changing what is possible, not that you have to accept it in perpetuity.


Not That Daniel Is Concluding (0.00 / 0)
any wrong doing of Pelosi, I think we should keep in mind the following:

1.  An anyomously sourced aritcle leaked in this environment--with Cheney feeling the heat--where we know Bush officials are burrowed into our intelligence apparatus--(Sey Hersh has done excellent reporting on this; and no one to my knowledge gets the dirt in this secretive world like he does.)--where "fuck the law" Cheneyites are the masters of leaked, selective, and misleading information. Cheney has manuevered in the different military and intelligence agencies for decades--and he is still yapping on TV in broad daylight.  Makes you scratch your head.  


That's the sad part (4.00 / 1)
is that reactionary forces have been able to direct progressive ammunition at the only progressive in Democratic party leadership. Coincidentially or not, this comes exactly at the same time that Pelosi could be out front demaning single payer. If the worst case scenario were to happen and she were to lose the gavel, the Speakership would fall to Hoyer and the Blue Dogs, and the House would mirror the Senate. Which means once again we would have a three party system in America: the GOP, the DLC, and the Democratic base.

Subpoena power! (4.00 / 3)
Congressional Committees can issue subpoenas, hold hearings, compel testimony under oath, issue authoritative reports and report suitable legislation to the full chambers.

Oh, but can they?

When are we going to see Harriet Miers, Josh Bolten, Karl Rove, etc. be compelled to testify under oath?

The incredibly serious problem underlying almost every single one of the Bush/Cheney scandals is that they figured out that if they just hold their ground and refuse to cooperate with the so-called "oversight" powers, there was nothing anyone could do to stop them from torturing, wiretapping, prosecuting political enemies, or what have you.

Because impeachment -- the one weapon given to Congress that can back up this "subpoena power" in the face of an intransigent executive -- was "off the table" from the beginning.

(And why was it off the table? Because Republicans had abused it so horribly in the administration immediately prior to Bush's that they all believed it would be seen as "tit for tat.")

So Democrats and the Congress stood there with their thumbs up their asses and no tools at their disposal, forced to sit and wait the "administration" out instead of being able to exercise oversight.

Withhold funding? There was no funding for planning the Iraq invasion, but they just took the money from Afghanistan funds. They canceled DARPA projects, only to see them funded under different names, from different accounts. And when Congress threatened to defund the Iraq war, Bush sent Rice out to announce openly that he would "defy" troop withdrawal legislation.

Not challenge, oppose or veto. "Defy."

These people say the Constitution inherently gives the president the right to torture people if he wants to. Do we think they'd tremble at violating the requirement that no money be drawn from the Treasury but by Congressional appropriation?

Why?  


Pelosi would not have risked imprisonment for speaking out... (4.00 / 1)
isn't there a concept in law of parliamentary immunity, under which a member can say anything she pleases in her official capacity?  A secret briefing anyway does not, cannot oblige her to conceal crimes that she knows are being committed by people on the civil service payroll, can it?

"If you want that good feeling that comes from doing things for other people, then you have to pay for it in abuse and misunderstanding..."
Zora Neale Hurston


Now that Pelosi has engaged the real threat (0.00 / 0)
(i.e. not the "tea-baggers")

I would like to see the Left rally around her.

This is the real battle.


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