Defend Pelosi By Making Supreme Court nomination

by: Chris Bowers

Mon May 18, 2009 at 16:00


Nancy Pelosi is probably the most progressive congressional leader Democrats have had in either chamber of Congress for at least two decades. Here DW-Nominate score of neagtive 0.5 puts her solidly in the left-wing of the caucus, even if she has been sliding rightward ever so slightly during her career. As a point of comparison, Richard Gephardt started his career with a score in the mid  negative 0.3 range (the lower the score, the more liberal), and only moved to Pelosi's range when he took over the caucus leadership (caucus leaders invariably vote the party line, and thus receive extreme scores on these measures). So, Gephardt had to move noticeably to the left to become Democratic leader, while Pelosi has actually had to move to the right.

It is likely that we won't see someone more progressive than Nancy Pelosi as Speaker for quite some time. As such, it behooves progressives to defend the Speaker when she becomes the target of the right-wing media attack machine. Daily Kos polling shows that she has taken a hit to her favorable rating as a result of this flap, even if other polling suggests the public is split on whether she, or the CIA, is telling the truth on the matter.

The problem is that the defense must be carried out entirely in the media realm. This is a he said / she said story if there ever was one. There won't be a truth commission to clear the matter up, given that President Obama is not going to push for one and that the Senate would probably block it anyway. So, the story will rage as long as Republican leaders keep calling Pelosi a liar since, as we have all learned, when Newt Gingrich criticizes a Democrat, for some reason it is automatically news. Given that the party of no has little else to do these days, they could keep up such criticisms indefinitely.

That is, Republicans can keep up these calls indefinitely unless President Obama forces the media narrative to look at something else. In this light, there is one card President Obama could play that would push any discussion of Nancy Pelosi out of the news cycle for a while: nominate the next Supreme Court justice. Such a nomination would render discussion of Nancy Pelosi to an irrelevant footnote immediately. Even Republicans wouldn't care anymore, since there are few areas of congressional business that interest them more than judicial nominations. It would barely be rushing the nomination at all, given that there already is a short list, and Obama apparently intends to make the nomination by the end of the month anyway.

If President Obama isn't going to push for a truth commission, then he could at least back up Speaker Pelosi by making his Supreme Court nomination later this week. Such a move would push the Pelosi vs. CIA flap out of the media pretty much forever, given both the upcoming Memorial Day weekend, and the extremely busy congressional calendar this summer. Defend Pelosi by pushing the he said vs. she said off the media radar altogether.

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agreed -- also, is everyone else enjoying speculating (0.00 / 0)
about who this pick will be as much as i am?  

my first guess was kaplan.  now, i'm definitely wavering, and wouldn't be terribly surprised if obama picked granholm tomorrow:

http://www.google.com/hostedne...

my reasons for thinking along these lines, other than the fact that she will be in washington:

1) kaine was on tv yesterday talking about how "empathy" meant, in part, "knowing how a decision made in the judicial chambers will impact a state legislature trying to implement policy"

2) she is on the WH released short list.

3) this would shield her from a tough re-election fight.

4) this would be a gesture of support to michigan, which has been reeling from the problems in the auto industry (though i'm not sure how much michiganders will care if their governor is selected).  

5) her nomination would shake up the hearings, and put them on different ground -- we wouldn't be talking about this or that case the justice ruled on, but rather the work the nominee had done in government.  obama has said that he wanted to change the nature of the nomination process.


ach, nevermind about re-election, she is coming up against term-limits (0.00 / 0)
which makes the calculus different -- i wonder who is next in line..  

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sorry if folks aren't interested in this line of thought, but (0.00 / 0)
i just found an article talking about a possible granholm appointment and how it would relate to michigan state politics:
http://www.wsbt.com/news/regio...

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Picking her would help keep the governor seat blue... (4.00 / 2)
Lt. Governor Cherry needs to have some incumbency under his belt to win the seat...


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thanks for the perspective -- it seems like a good pick for (0.00 / 0)
a number of reasons, then.  and, with the political considerations, it makes the most sense for obama to pick her first, if he is planning on picking her anyway.  

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It would be nice... (4.00 / 2)
...if our president would lend her a hand, but it's not going to happen, it seems.  He'd rather lose the person whom he needs to get his legislation through than "offend" his precious CIA.

The public may be split on the Pelosi issue, but by the time the swiftboaters finish with her, there won't be much left of her...

Maybe Obama would rather have Steny Hoyer as speaker (God help us!)... He certainly does not benefit from a weakened Pelosi, that's for sure.  She knows how to whip the caucus, but he is clearly sacrificing her...

I'm sure he wants to make the point that he doesn't want more torture investigations.  Point made, Mr. President... now, please come to her rescue... This BS is dragging down the party, and you need a strong majority in 2010 if you want any of your stuff to pass...

REID: Voting against us was never part of our arrangement!
SPECTER: I am altering the deal! Pray I don't alter it any further!
REID: This deal keeps getting worse all the time!


i honestly don't see this at all (0.00 / 0)
this is straight out of bill kristol's post in the washington post.  

the only evidence for this is panetta's response, which was (as TPM pointed out) actually relatively weak tea.  on the other hand, obama mentioned pelosi positively in his online address this past saturday.  if the WH wanted pelosi to step down, i think we would be seeing more evidence to this effect.    


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she's their foil -- Rahm and all the WH always use her -- and need her -- (4.00 / 1)
they're the ones who actually put the target on her back in the first place, i'd say -- on purpose.

but she's necessary to them -- and this very post shows it, too. We should defend her -- not because she's actually ensuring legislation and policy are better, and not because she's fought for us and our needs, and not because she held firm on any legislation, and not because she's fulfilled any of her promises and vows, etc. ...

She serves -- as "the liberal" they have to disappoint and that the Senate has to "moderate" and to show that they and their intentions on legislation really are more "progressive", but that they know all along the Senate will change more to their desired (non-liberal, non-moderate, "centrist", etc) results.

She's the personification of all the groups (including liberals and bloggers, etc) that they dismiss and denigrate daily, and don't care at all about.


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plus, she takes the heat off them -- they're not attacking Obama or his legislation (4.00 / 1)
if they're all attacking her -- it's incredibly helpful to them to have her be the focus of attention.

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and look how Harman isn't news anymore either -- or military commissions or Gitmo or .... (0.00 / 0)
she is totally helped by the exclusive focus on Pelosi (and we're hurt) -- they all are helped by this -- Democrats in the WH, House, and Senate.

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ok, structurally what you are saying makes sense, but i'm (0.00 / 0)
not seeing any evidence.  can you point to a situation where the WH triangulated against pelosi?  

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sure -- (4.00 / 1)
there have been tons and tons of articles with this exact kind of phrasing and labeling as in this one example --

http://www.rollcall.com/issues... --

The White House quietly sought to get the ball rolling on overhauling Social Security earlier this year, but it either abandoned or significantly downgraded the process under pressure from Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) and outside liberal interest groups, according to sources familiar with the stalled effort. ...

and tons of articles like this one continually, where Rahm blames and/or forces Pelosi to act differently while also telling Reid exactly how the final bill should be, etc -- http://www.nytimes.com/2009/05... -- White House Is Firm on Shaking Up Military Spending --

... Congressional aides said that during the negotiations over the bill, the White House chief of staff, Rahm Emanuel, called House Speaker Nancy Pelosi and Representative David R. Obey, the Wisconsin Democrat who leads the House Appropriations Committee, to insist that they strip out some of the extra spending on planes and combat vehicles that Mr. Murtha had sought.

The result was that Mr. Murtha, who is chairman of the defense appropriations subcommittee, had to call his panel together to say he could not deliver some of the things he had promised.

House aides said the White House wanted to head off possible Republican criticism over earmarked spending and to ensure that the bill was clean enough to pass quickly to avoid disrupting the war financing.

The Senate on Wednesday began considering a bill to strengthen the Pentagon's contracting process. One of its chief sponsors, Senator John McCain of Arizona, who was Mr. Obama's Republican rival in the presidential race last year, strongly supports many of the changes that Mr. Obama wants to make.

Senate aides say Mr. Emanuel also asked Senator Harry Reid, the Democratic majority leader from Nevada, to limit the amount of money added to the Senate version of the war bill....

it's basically weekly if not more often that multiple articles tell us how Rahm and the rest of the WH either paint Pelosi as acting wrongly or against their goals or crafting legislation that won't pass, etc -- and that Reid doesn't get blamed ever for, but gets instructed overtly to undo and change what comes from the House.

Or that Pelosi speaks against things Obama wants (and that he gets anyway) and speaks up for the exact things the public wants in whatever legislation (whether it's investigating torture or more money for social programs instead of taxcuts or cramdown or restrictions on corporations, etc)

-- it's theater, and repeatedly plays out the same way over and over and over...


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he asks reid and pelosi to change the bills.... (0.00 / 0)


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and this is not "triangulation" -- the white house is not (0.00 / 0)
coming out and saying: "we're not doing all the crazy stuff pelosi wants, therefore we are moderate."  instead, they are coming out against the conservadems in the senate.  

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no, they're not at all coming out against Conservadems -- they're doing the opposite -- continually (0.00 / 0)
they're ensuring Conservadems and the few "moderate" Republicans are onboard always -- no matter how much it hurts legislation.

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There's even an intrade market for her, now.... (0.00 / 0)
http://www.intrade.com/

For such a made up "scandal" and distraction...

The swiftbaoters are good... you'd think that we would have learned how to handle them by now!

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REID: This deal keeps getting worse all the time!


I think I'd rather see this story kept alive, actually (4.00 / 3)
I don't watch tv news, really, so I don't know what sort of media images are being created out of the Pelosi thing. I would only say that it seems to be keeping the issue of torture alive; and it seems to be framing the torture thing as actually a bad thing; and that Republicans actually seem to be contributing to this framing of torture as bad. I would also add that from my blessedly ignorant perspective (sometimes an advantage when analyzing the news!) the idea that Pelosi would end up losing the speakership over this seems preposterous.

So all in all: it seems to me that we don't necessarily want to push this story off of cable news, or wherever it's being amplified.


it is a fair point -- i love how blatantly hypocritical the GOP is (0.00 / 0)
being over this... it really is hard to miss.  

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Totally agree (4.00 / 2)
This is a story about the CIA lying. As Emptywheel keeps pointing out, the MSM narrative is - gasp! - misrepresenting what Pelosi has said. At least Bob Graham's had her back. http://is.gd/B6xC   Wouldn't you love to see this turn into genuine calls for Pelosi to step down? Think some f'ing truth would come out then? Keep this story - and this uncomfortable friction - alive!

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No question the GOP smells blood (4.00 / 2)
and she needs to be more effectively defended that she has to date.

What makes you think Obama wants to defend her? (0.00 / 0)
Rahm Emanuel wants her job, do you really think he will life a finger to defend her? How much more likely is it that Rahm is orchestrating as least some of this?

? i don't follow re: rahm. (4.00 / 1)
he doesn't have a shot at speakership, at least in the medium term.  he may not even ever return to the house.  

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there's been lots of talk about how he's planning to go back to the House (0.00 / 0)
in a few years -- and that his seat in IL is being held for him until he decides he can get a leadership position there -- or that Obama's a sinking ship or lameduck or whatever.

it was very openly discussed all over.


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yeah when he took the position, people were saying he was hoping it would be held over (0.00 / 0)
but that was basically roundly mocked, and there is no evidence that it is happening.  

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many Reps owe their elections to him -- when he was in charge of selecting and funding them -- (0.00 / 0)
and the party has clearly shown that making promises like this (see Specter for the most recent) and eliminating primaries and challengers (see Specter again, and see Obama calling Rep. Israel here about GIllibrand, etc) are fine and dandy.

There won't be evidence of it happening until it happens -- just like w/ Specter and the promises made him (we still don't know all of those either, btw)


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oh -- Sestak is one of them, btw (0.00 / 0)
speaking of Specter reminded me.

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ok, so we're confirmed that this is totally speculative. (0.00 / 0)
and there is no evidence that the WH is out to knock pelosi out of the speakership.  

so... i'm not sure where to go from here.  


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well -- (0.00 / 0)
articles like this Observer piece on them aren't uncommon -- http://www.observer.com/2008/p... -- Rahm Emanuel Still Makes Nancy Pelosi Nervous

... there's not much trust between them and there's plenty of reason for the speaker to be apprehensive about what he might do with his new power. After all, he's the only Democrat in the House since she became the party's leader to show the ability to outmaneuver Pelosi.

Emanuel arrived in the House after the 2002 midterm elections, when - after making tens of millions of dollars in an 18-month stint as an investment banker - he claimed a Chicago-based district that had been specially preserved for him during redistricting by order of Richard Daley, the Second City's mayor.   ...

This is the atmosphere that Emanuel, a cutthroat political strategist with an army of influential supporters and dreams of claiming the speaker's gavel someday, stepped into when he arrived in the House in 2003. Cozying up to Pelosi would be pointless, he quickly realized; she already had her favorites and knew too much about his ambition. Plus, it wasn't exactly his style.

If he wanted real power in the House, and if he wanted to establish a clear avenue to a leadership spot, Emanuel would have to go around Pelosi - something no one had succeeded in doing since she'd become the Democratic leader.

At first, he was shot down, denied the seat on the tax-writing Ways and Means Committee that he sought as a freshman. It's highly unusual for a first-termer to win a Ways and Means seat, but Emanuel, a onetime top aide to Bill Clinton who was backed behind the scenes by some of the party's most influential national donors, was not a typical freshman. Still, Pelosi knew that giving him the slot as a freshman would anoint Emanuel as a member to watch, hastening his rise in the House. So he was told no.

But that wasn't the end of it. Two years later, Pelosi was in the market for a new chairman of the Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee. For the 2004 cycle, she had awarded the post - in typical Pelosi fashion - to a mild-mannered California loyalist, 63-year-old Bob Matsui. Matsui, who passed away from a rare stem cell disorder two months after the election, had been a disaster, overseeing a poorly funded campaign effort that produced a loss of two seats.

Matsui, before his death, swore off a second term. Immediately, top national Democrats began pushing Emanuel for the post, awed by his unmatched fund-raising prowess and smart and aggressive tactical sensibilities. For his part, Emanuel badly wanted the job; the power to dole out campaign cash would allow him to build his own power base within the House, and the goodwill generated by a successful stint could give him an opening to jump into the leadership. ...

All the while, support for Emanuel, spurred on by his well-heeled allies and top party figures in Washington, grew. Hungry to reclaim the House, Democrats began clamoring for his selection. Pelosi floated the names of several other possible candidates in the press, but Democrats (correctly) saw them as much more like Matsui than Emanuel.

Finally, the pressure became too much for Pelosi, and she was forced to go to Emanuel. But now he held all the cards - and he knew it. Democrats believed he was by far the best candidate for the job and he was still pretending he didn't really want it. So Pelosi, to mollify her members, was forced to sweeten the pot. When the deal was finally struck, Emanuel agreed to head up the DCCC, but he was also given an unusual guarantee of independence by Pelosi - and a Ways and Means seat. Pelosi had been outfoxed.

On Emanuel's watch, the Democrats did take back the House in 2006, and he was rewarded with the No. 4 spot - caucus chairman - on the majority side. (He had actually aimed a slot higher, but was forced to back down to avoid an ugly fight with the Congressional Black Caucus, which would have bristled at any Emanuel effort to leapfrog James Clyburn.) When he left Congress this month, Emanuel was the youngest member of the Democratic leadership, by far. He had created his own formidable power base and the speaker's gavel, while still firmly in Pelosi's hand, wasn't far from his reach.

This week, Pelosi may have let her apprehension about Emanuel's new position show, with the appearance of a Politico story" that read very much like a purpose-pitch from her office. The gist of the piece: Pelosi wants the Obama White House to know that she, and only she, runs the House, and that if they want to say or do anything with any House members, they'd better go through her first.
...



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again, i'm sorry, but i'm having trouble taking these (0.00 / 0)
ungrounded speculations seriously.  it seems like what is driving this whole line of discussion is an irrational distrust of the administration generally, and rahm particularly.  but who am i to let facts (or their absence) get in the way of a good rahm-bashing session.  

i'm not saying that rahm isn't maneuvering to get pelosi to step down, i'm just saying we have as much evidence for that claim as the claim that he is maneuvering to get reid to step down: none.

oh, and does it not give you pause that bill kristol is pushing this same line?    


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i'd say it's more about power, blocs, "machines", and group dynamics-- just like (0.00 / 0)
the Chicago Machine and Clinton Machine and who owes who what, etc.

it's not about distrust but about their power in Congress and who wants more and who gets supported and who doesn't and who has groups that will always stand by them, etc.

it's about how all politicians -- ALL -- get and amass power and influence in Congress and in Party Politics.


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and it's not unfounded speculation -- Emanuel was #4 and enormously powerful immediately -- (0.00 / 0)
and he only got more powerful.

there is no other young Democratic Rep with anything near the kind of power he had in the House -- that's just fact.

no other new Rep has ever gotten to pick and choose which other House candidates to support or not-- to make or break  -- & Schumer had to work for years and years to get that same slot and kind of power in the Senate.


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no. (4.00 / 2)
It's a lifetime appointment.  He should make it when he's ready and when the nominee is ready to start making her Capitol Hill visits immediately.

she can't be trusted (4.00 / 1)
"Impeachment is off the table" came from somewhere. Her legacy is a two tiered justice system, one for the politically powerfull and one for us 99% pee-ons. The damage done by her refusal to do her sworn duty of oversite has permently altered our country for the worse. It is now precident and established practice is unlikely to change and return the nation to the rule of law. I believe whenever Benidict Arnold or George W. Bush is mentioned the name Nancy Pelosi should always follow. In the United States, the KING is law!

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