Al Queda In The Bronx? (The Bronx Is Up And The Battery's Down).Entrapment, Entrapment, Entrapment.

by: NABNYC

Thu May 21, 2009 at 16:46



A few decades ago, rich people fire-bombed entire neighborhoods in the Bronx. But they weren't called terrorists -- they were called landlords. And nobody did a thing to stop them. My how things have changed in the Bronx.

It's being reported today that there was a "major" FBI sting in New York City, in the Bronx, arresting four men (al Queda in the Bronx?) who reportedly were planning to (1) blow up a Synagogue, and (2) shoot airplanes out of the sky. But they couldn't do anything until the FBI sent in some informant to infiltrate (or create) their "organization" (did they sit around a trash can and drink beers and talk shit every day?). Not only did the FBI "infiltrate" the "organization," but they also (1) offered to provide explosives to be used in blowing up a synagogue, and (2) offered to provide a weapon that could blow airplanes out of the sky. It took the FBI an entire year to get these four losers to participate at all (who knows how much money they were promised), and even at that the FBI had to actually drive the guys to the "scene of the crime," and stand there and instruct them what to do, so they could be arrested. And called "terrorists."

So let's see: we've got four probably losers who hang out together and talk trash. Then the FBI, working with some right-wing Republican in Congress decides to "infiltrate," and provide a plan for insurrection, plus provide the weapons. What's in it for the FBI? How actively are the Republicans and the state police (FBI, CIA) working together to re-terrorize (is that a word?) the American public, to justify torture and international war crimes, so there will be no hearings or prosecutions? Would they go so far as to invent evidence? Well.... yes, actually. They already invented evidence to use to invade Iraq. They're actually pretty good at it.

Read the story in the New York Times (link below) and get the details of this absurdity.

Given the well-documented history of the FBI in not just framing people and creating false evidence, but out-right murder, I would never assume anything they say or report is truthful. The fact that this entire "investigation" took a year to complete stinks to high heaven. If these men were such a danger to society, then why were they allowed to roam our streets for an entire year

My guess is that they are four loser-nobodys, low-IQs, just like those dudes from Florida who wanted to make a revolution, and whose demands were that they wanted new boots. People like this are used and manipulated by the state police forces to create a phony crisis. I'll bet anything that these four will be held under some terrorist statute that will prevent their attorneys from providing them with a basic defense to the charges. Or even presenting a defense. You know -- "National Security" and all that. Or maybe this will be a test of the new policy of "preventative detention" by which our government claims they can lock us up forever, without trial. You know. To "protect" us.

If somebody wanted to blow up a building, they could get gasoline and soda bottles. If they wanted to kill people, they could get a gun. This whole story stinks. It's like the FBI came up with some truly bizarre scenario to maximize the level to which the public could be terrorized. I'm betting we'll see three things at work in this phony story: Entrapment, Entrapment, and Entrapment. This will undoubtedly be used by the Republicans to justify their torture and international war crimes, and to support the further elimination of our basic constitutional rights. Will it be used by the Democrats to justify the planned war against Pakistan, and Obama's just-announced policy of preventative detention without trial?

What does the New York Times report in its article on May 22, 2009, titled "N.Y. Bomb Plot Suspects Acted Alone, Police Say"? Here are a few important points.

1. The four men who were arrested are described by local cops as "petty criminals."

2. They were acting alone, not with any terrorist organization. (Until the FBI got involved, anyway).

3. All four men had previously been in prison, for petty crimes.

4. The FBI found these four losers by sending informants into a Muslim mosque, and looking for -- poor people?

5. The "plot" consisted of the FBI informant wooing these men for a year, buying them meals, (did the FBI buy these men the SUV they drove to the "crime scene?") and promising them -- what? Millions of dollars? Even at that, the FBI informant, who told the four men he represented some foreign group, spent an entire year before he could get them to agree to do anything. Even then, the four men did nothing. The FBI gave them something which they said was a bomb, and drove them to a synagogue, then sat there and waited for the men to put the bomb out front. The FBI gave these four men something they said was a missile, and the FBI was supposedly going to drive the men to an airport where they would then shoot down airplanes. The four men did nothing. The FBI apparently planned the crime, got the "weapons," got together their "crew," maybe gave these men an SUV, maybe gave them money, maybe promised them millions. Whose the real criminal here? This is so weak that the case should be dismissed immediately.

6. The U.S. Attorneys' office describes the four as "extremely violent men." That's not what the local cops said -- the cops who know these guys. The local cops said these guys are petty criminals. Not based on their conduct. They didn't do anything except what the FBI informant told them to do. We already know the FBI is extremely violent. But these four men have no reported history of violence of any kind. So why would the U.S. Attorney's office come up with the description of "extremely" violent men? I'm guessing because they're going to be held forever, without a trial. Or maybe with some secret trial.

7. Three of the men are U.S.-born, one was born in Haiti. All four men are being reported by the FBI as being Muslim, although family relatives do not confirm that. For example, Wanda Cromitie is a sister of one of the four men arrested. She said: "she was shocked to learn of her brother's arrest while watching television this morning. She said she was unaware that her brother may have had extreme political views, and that she had last spoken to him about two years ago when she thought he was working at a Wal-Mart or Kmart store. " [Which could make anyone have extreme political views]. "'Right now, to me he's, like, the dumbest person I ever came in contact with in my life,' Ms. Cromitie said. She added that as far as she knew, he was not a Muslim, but said 'they do a little time in jail and they don't eat pork no more.'"

8. The FBI sent informants into a Muslim mosque in the hometown of these four men several years ago at least. "At the Masjid al-Ikhlas mosque in Newburgh where the men first met the F.B.I. informant, they were not considered devoted members, said an imam at the mosque, Salahuddin Mustafa. He also said that the man he believes was the informant showed up about two years ago and started inviting people to meals, where he would talk about jihad and violence.

9. An assistant imam (like a minister or pastor) at that mosque said that one of the four men appeared to be mentally ill. He "often talked in circles, showed signs of paranoia and kept bottles of urine in a messy apartment. 'He has some very serious psychological problems,'" (the assistant iman said.)

10. Therefore, according to the New York Times, the FBI sent an underground informant into a Muslim mosque, and that informant would invite poor ex-con members out to meals where he would talk to them about violence and jihad. Yes, that's called inciting violence. What exactly did the FBI promise these four men? Money?

11. Actually, these four men were given up by another guy who had been caught in criminal activity, and agreed to be an informant to the FBI in exchange for staying out of prison. This weasel told the FBI that these four losers wanted to attack the U.S. That's how this all began. Or so the FBI claims. Some weasley criminal turned these four guys in so he could stay out of prison. And even at that, it took the FBI an entire year to get these four guys to go along with this ridiculous "plot" to attack a synagogue.

It gets better. The FBI informant actually drove these four losers to the synagogue and watched (or instructed) one of them placing packages (supposedly with explosives) inside cars parked out front. The four bad guys and the FBI who directed the whole "plot" were inside a black SUV. Whose car was this? Did these four men even have a car? The newspaper calls the driver a "cooperator." Is that the same as FBI Informant? The FBI immediately moved in from all sides, including in armored vehicles, smashed in the windows of the SUV (why?) and made the big arrest. Of Al Queda in the Bronx.

The newspaper reports that none of the four resisted at all. Yet the place was swarming with FBI and cops: "'Other police officers, along with members of the Joint Terrorist Task Force, the F.B.I., and the state police, were also on hand, and moved in and took those individuals away.'"

Then to cap it off, we have a new term, "aspiration." The FBI is claiming that these four men "aspired" to be bad guys, but did not have the materials or abilities to do so. Good thing the FBI jumped in to direct, encourage, and pretend to arm them. Entrapment. And a waste of taxpayer money. "A federal law enforcement official described the plot as 'aspirational' - meaning that the suspects wanted to do something but had no weapons or explosives - and described the operation as a sting with a cooperator within the group." Aspirational. They aspire to commit crimes. A "cooperator" in the group: that's the FBI plant who came up with the plan, promised money to the others if they would go along with it, got the phony weapons, and was in charge of the entire bizarre incident. This is a new low.

Here's another good one: "The shadowy figure of the F.B.I. informant is, in many ways, a driving force of the plot laid out by prosecutors." Well yes, driving force. He invented the whole thing. He created it. Delete "in many ways."

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/05...

So, what's really going on with these two-bit criminals being set up like big-time terrorists? Find some ex-cons including one who's crazy, probably poor and unable to find work. Tell them what to do, pretend to represent some wealthy foreign group, provide them with the pretend weapons, promise them what? Millions of dollars? All set up by the FBI.

Here's the proper role for law enforcement: (1) when there has been a crime committed, they investigate, find evidence, turn it over to a prosecuting attorney who decides whether to file charges; (2) if they hear of a planned crime, investigate that, gather evidence to be used to stop the crime. But it is not the proper role of law enforcement to manufacture crimes, to try to get other people to commit crimes so the law enforcement can act like big shots when they arrest the guys. Which is what appears to have happened in this case.

The government got four losers and set them up to take a fall as some big-time Al Queda in the Bronx. But for what? I'd say it is to (1) re-terrorize the public, make people fearful, (2) convince the public that torture and wars of aggression are necessary, so there should be no hearings or prosecution or punishment of those who committed those crimes, and (3) provide further support for the elimination of the constitutional rights of the citizens of this country.; and (4) maybe test out the new "preventative detention" theory being floated by our federal government, the idea that they can jerk us out of our homes at any time and throw us in prison, without trial, forever. You know -- to keep the country safe.

The FBI: Fibbers, Bulls***ters and Incompetents.

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"This is a cosmic disintegrator," (0.00 / 0)
I agree with your description of this "plot," based on whatever I can glean from the news, but maybe it's also worth mentioning that the "bombs" were nothing but black boxes for the "perpetrators."

What kind of criminal intent can you ascribe to someone who plants a "bomb" that isn't a bomb?

If I hand you a toy gun and tell you it's a "cosmic disintegrator," and you aim it a cow and pull the trigger...

(Insert ludicrous hypotheticals quantum libet.)

It's hard for me to believe that a so-called "newspaper of record" like the Times would even report this thing as news...

But they did, like the yellowcake, and the mobile bio-war labs, and so many other silly fables.



Thanks (4.00 / 1)
Your narrative adds interesting context to the story.

I guess I'm not all that frightened by "terrorists" that can't even tell that they've been supplied with fake bombs. Its so far off the typical story-line we hear in these kind of cases (and those that actually go beyond "aspiration") which generally talk about apartments filled with "bomb-making" materials and trace residue on the clothes and hands of the bomb-maker.

The frightening part (not really "terrorizing") is how easily such bumpkins can be made to look like a serious threat.  Still, I think this story can be useful.

1) The only motivation I have heard on the part of the 4 men is that they were up-set about the civilian deaths in Afghanistan bombing campaigns. Clearly, continuing the use of drones and bombers to kill civilians at a 49:1 ratio over the "targets" has instilled far more anger at the US than the reports of detainee abuse. So, logically, we shoudl discontinue the aerial bombing campaign because its ineffectiveness puts our troops and our synagogues at risk.

2) The plot was "uncovered" without resorting to any harsh interrogation techniques, or torture. This directly refutes Mr. Cheney's contention that abandoning these methods will allow terroristic attacks on the US.

3) The entire incident was handled as a criminal case, not a militaristic adventure. The case will be prosecuted in civilian courts and if found guilty the accused will serve their time in US Federal prisons.


"It sounds wrong...
     ...but its right."


I can't agree about the exemplary value of this case. (0.00 / 0)
It would be an example of standard police-work foiling a plot if there were any plot to foil...

You obviously already understand that, and I guess you  mean that this case can be used as a bogus counter-example to refute bogus claims by Cheney and his friends...

But this is a game I don't want to play ( even in the miniscule role I could play), and it's hard to imagine that it wouldn't detract from the dignity of anybody who played it, if dignity were a factor in American politics...

But maybe we could send some clowns around the talk-shows to make this argument... (and maybe what Meet the Press really needs is a few clowns in clown outfits instead of the usual clowns in $4000 suits.)


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I have no dignity, as you have described it (0.00 / 0)
So, I will play the game.

You are correct. I'm not refuting anything about the "bogus" nature of the story. I the powers that be want to make up stories like this, I'll try to use it against them by any means possible.  NABNYC tells a good story, but I doubt we're gonna hear anyone (in a clown suit or any other costume) talking about that story on MTP. We will, however, get a suit or two getting up and spewing the Cheney line about how this incident points to the disaster that Obama's administration will be. The M$M is not going to admit to the bogus nature of this "terror plot", so I'd try to use the story to subvert them on their own terms.



"It sounds wrong...
     ...but its right."


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Sorry about that. (0.00 / 0)
I didn't mean to use you as an example, and your suggestion was just a hypothetical... The story could be used in a certain way.

If you had suggested that these nonsense arrests actually demonstrated that standard police work could uncover real terrorist cells, that would have been ridiculous.

But you didn't make that claim.


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"A Job Well Done" (0.00 / 0)
It's just another "Job Well Done" for the soulless hustlers who claim to protect us, and here's a little "thank you" for all the boys at the FBI, from the great terranaomi...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v...

Her first song, which more or less established her as a genius for everybody in the biz who isn't... stupid, is audible and visible at...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v...

It's a fantastic demonstration that all the big machinery of the studios isn't really essential, and all it really takes is a webcam and a genius.


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