Rendell: Sestak Can't Beat Specter Just Like Obama Couldn't Win the Presidency

by: tremayne

Fri May 29, 2009 at 23:49


Think back to the fall of 2007. Remember how conventional wisdom called for a general election with Hillary Clinton facing Rudy Giuliani? Hillary was going to win the Democratic primary, the CW said, because she had a decades-long head start, name recognition, support of Democratic leaders and tremendous fundraising ability.  Okay, here's Pennsylvania Governor Ed Rendell on the Ed Show. See if this sounds familiar:

Rendell: I'm an admirer of Joe Sestak.....Joe should not run for the Senate in the Democratic primary, he'd get killed.  And let me tell you why he'd get killed.  Number one, Arlen Specter's been going around PA for three decades, as the Senator.  He goes into every one of the 67 counties each and every year, and he holds town meetings, and he does constituent service, and he's never asked whether people are Republican or Democrat.  Last three weeks or so, we've been having regional conferences with elected Democratic Party chairs, and elected Democratic officials, in every region of the state.  It's unbelievable how many of them know Arlen personally, and admired him and supported him, even though he was a Republican in the past.  You can't buy that, and you can't overcome that in one campaign.  It's been thirty years.  Number two, Arlen Specter will raise two, three, four times as much money as Joe Sestak.  Number three, Arlen Specter has the support of the President and the Vice President, a President who's got a 90% approval rating among registered Democrats in Pennsylvania.

Schultz: Governor, you're very strong with that answer tonight.  It almost sounds as if Joe Sestak would be making a fool of himself if he were to try this.  Would you go that far?

Rendell: Well, I wouldn't say making a fool of himself, of course, Joe's a terrific guy, and he's got great credentials.  But he's being talked into it by people on the extreme of the party, and they're good people, and they care about the right issues, but they don't represent the broad slice... this is a conservative state....

....Joe Sestak runs against Arlen Specter, he's out of the Congress, after just two short terms.  We will lose a terrific Congressman, and when he loses to Arlen, he fades into political obscurity.

Okay, now read that again and replace "Sestak" with "Obama" and "Senate" for "Presidency" and "Specter" with "Hillary" and see if the parallels aren't striking.

I'm not saying the analogy is perfect. Obama is a very dynamic candidate and Sestak may not be able to pull it off. But we shouldn't be told:

1. Specter is inevitable

2. Specter is connected

3. Specter has more money

4. Pennsylvania Voters Don't Count

Incidentally, we're the extremists Rendell refers to. You can watch Sestak on Hardball from earlier this month inside.

tremayne :: Rendell: Sestak Can't Beat Specter Just Like Obama Couldn't Win the Presidency

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and what the Pf*ck! (4.00 / 5)
Pennsylvania is a conservative state? Tell that to John McCain who lost to Obama by ELEVEN percent despite putting his whole campaign there in the final week.

more like .. F--k Rendell!! (4.00 / 1)
.. he can take his arrogant attitude elsewhere .. it really would be so sweet to take one of these sons of a bitches down(especially since Specter can't back door it like HoJo) .. and are you telling me that Ed Schultz didn't throw Obama back at Rendell(per the title of this diary)?  If not .. that is a poor job by Ed Schultz

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Oooohh....he called us extremists!! (4.00 / 3)
God forbid actual people have the right to voice their own opinions and want things to improve in people's lives rather than take marching orders from Rendell and Specter. I'm so sick of these hacks.  

Aw, come on, Hillary ain't no Specter! (4.00 / 1)
Is it really necessary to revive this lame old discussion again? Stop picking on the secretary of state!

Rendell, not Hillary (4.00 / 1)
Rendell is the villain here, not Hillary.

The point is Rendell is pushing flawed logic while insulting voters.

Rendell said the same things about Hillary's campaign and he was wrong then. She lost, Obama won. He's repeating the same arguments, they are no truer with repetition.

There are public servants and there politicians who holds voters in disdain. Rendell is acting like the latter here.

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Making Rendell Eat His Words Is Reason Enough To Elect Sestak (4.00 / 5)
I hate to make it seem trivial or petty, but really, once you read those words and really let them sink in, you'll see that there's nothing petty about repudiating that noxious ideology.

If Specter were a man of principle, rather than a man of interests (primarily his own), it would be quite different, of course.  But in that case, it's doubtful that Sestak would have even thought about running.

"You know what they say -- those of us who fail history... doomed to repeat it in summer school." -- Buffy The Vampire Slayer, Season 6, Episode 3


"Not about the issues"?!? (0.00 / 0)
Give me a f***ing break!  Why is that shallow S.o.a.B. Matthews allowed to pollute the airwaves?  That imbecile is concerned with only two things: fluff and horse races.  This is why the electoral process suffers; substance is trumped by drivel always.  You give me a show, I'll have Sestak and Specter on for an actual debate, and you damned well better believe I'd be talking about ISSUES - health care, jobs, war, imperialism, war crimes, you name it.  And I wouldn't let anyone get away with not answering.



Rendell is in the wrong ... but he's probably not wrong (0.00 / 0)
I support Joe Sestak, and I agree with sentiments expressed here, but remember that Rendell was right about Clinton and Obama in Pennsylvania; Clinton won that state's primary, in spite of the fact that Obama had all the national momentum at the time.

I grew up in PA, and Rendell's comment reminds me of two things:

1) Rendell knows the Pennsylvania electorate better than most people, and

2) it's a state where the political machine swings a lot of weight.

If the Democratic establishment's support of Specter is pro forma, he could lose. But if the machine supports Specter with all the energy it can muster, beating him will involve not merely winning an election, but working some change in the usual function of state politics.

I think Obama's victory showed that kind of structural change is possible, at least on the national scale, but it's important to realize how much energy, timing, and luck it takes. And the political establishment in any single state is going to be more tightly woven and therefore harder to alter than the national picture is. Barring some actions from Specter that seriously alienate PA Democrats, I don't see how an insurgent campaign overcomes the full weight of the party establishment. Is Joe Sestak really going to bring political non-participants in Pennsylvania out of the woodwork to join the process the way Obama did nationally?

I'm not trying to say it's hopeless, but Sestak supporters need the right strategy. I think our best bet is to change the calculus of the political establishment. If we can show them that Sestak's support is deep, energetic, and growing, we can make them afraid (they are, after all, Democrats). Their support for Specter will be less energetic as a result. Rendell might decide not to lean too hard on labor and community leaders, if he knows doing so could bite him in the ass with the electorate. Obama might find the demands of presidenting are just to pressing to run off to campaign in Pennsylvania. In that kind of setting, Sestak can win.

That said, I'm not sure how much that understanding of strategy would change the tactics of Sestak supporters - at least those like us, outside his campaign proper. We're still going to do all we can to try to win the most visible and noisy support possible for him from the largest possible number of people. But don't imagine that success will come in the form of a primary election-day surprise; unless we can get state and national press to say "look at this insurgent Sestak campaign!", unless we can get elected officials to say "Sestak has a right to run," unless members of the political establishment publicly take Sestak's campaign seriously, it's not going to work.

One final point; people supporting Sestak have to mean it. If much of the support for his campaign is motivated by a desire to "keep Specter honest," people will be able to tell. Sestak will not just lose, but lose BIG. That's the worst possible outcome. So if you support Joe, you've got to give it everything you've got.  


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