Looking At The 2012 Republican Field

by: Chris Bowers

Tue Jun 02, 2009 at 13:51


Republican Minnesota Governor Tim Pawlenty announced today that he would not seek a third term. Current speculation is that this decision was done with an eye on 2012, allowing Pawlenty to campaign for President full-time after serving two full-time terms as Governor.

If Pawlenty did run, he would immediately become one of the two or three most formidable Republican opponents for President Obama in 2012. Consider this table of net favorable ratings for Republicans that have been discussed or polled as potential 2012 candidates:

Republican Favorable Ratings
Republican Net Favorable # Polls
Condoleezza Rice +29% 1
Tim Pawlenty +5% 1
Rudy Guiliani +4% 2
Sarah Palin* +2% 5
Mike Huckabee** +1% 4
Bobby Jindal +1% 2
Mitt Romney** -11% 3
Mitch McConnell -16% 2
John Boehner -21% 2
Newt Gingrich*** -23% 2
>* = Post-2008 election
**  = Polling from January-February 2008
*** = Polling from early 2007

Not only is Pawlenty at the top of this table (and Rice is highly, highly unlikely to run), but most of the other Republicans listed here are true pretenders:

  1. Newt Gingrich: People just don't like Gingrich. Never really have. No one this disliked will ever become President. You can't start your term with a 30% approval rating.

  2. Rudy Giuliani: As the 2008 campaign made clear, Giuliani isn't a hard enough campaigner, and doesn't mesh well enough with the Republican base, to ever win the nomination. Given what will likely be an even more hard right-wing Republican voting electorate in 2012, and that he would start the election with a much, much lower favorable rating than he did in the 2008 campaign, there is no path to the nomination for Giuliani. At all.

  3. Bobby Jindal. Jindal is not going to be a factor in 2012. Not only has he already declared that he isn't running, the peculiar timing of the Louisiana governor's campaign makes it virtually impossible for him to both run for re-election and to  also run for President. A potential run-off for the 2011 Governor's campaign would take place on November 19th, only about six or seven weeks before the 2012 Iowa caucuses. Duel campaigning would put him in a nearly impossible position, as neither electorate would be happy with a candidate who is splitting time. His 2012 opponents won't give him a break just because he needs to run for re-election as Governor, either.

  4. Mitt Romney: While not as bad as Gingrich, his favorable rating is, and has long been, simply too low to ever be considered a serious threat to become President. Perhaps he is too obviously an opportunistic wanker, or perhaps it is his hair. Whatever it is, the country doesn't like Mittens all that much, and  he will not become President.
With those four out of the way, the picture clears up pretty quickly. Only Pawlenty, Palin and Huckabee remain, along with the possibility of a candidate who is currently relatively unknown.

Looking at only Pawlenty, Palin and Huckabee, it is not clear who would have the inside edge. Here are some factors to consider:

  1. Bailout: Republicans have adopted harsh anti-government rhetoric in the past few months, making support for bailouts difficult to justify to the base. In this regard, both Pawlenty and Palin (through McCain) are tainted by their support for the 2008 Wall Street bailout. Huckabee will have the advantage of clear, early opposition.  

  2. Money: Palin should have no problem racking in huge amounts of small donor dollars. Pawlenty might quickly become the favorite candidate for Wall Street money, given both the praise he has received from such quarters for his term as Governor and once Romney's lack of viability becomes increasingly clear. Huckabee, by contrast, will once again probably struggle to raise money, perhaps even more than in 2008, due to his anti-Wall Street rhetoric.

  3. Evangelicals: As the Republican Party becomes more and more white evangelical, these voters will become more important in the nomination process. Huckabee was unable to break out of his evangelical base of support in 2008, but their increasing influence in the party could benefit. However, the presence of both Palin and Pawlenty in the field might cause him problems within that base, given that both are evangelicals themselves.

  4. Electability: Contrary to popular belief, perceived ability to perform well in the general election does make a difference to Republican voters. The nomination of John McCain is exhibit A in this regard. Come 2012, Pawlenty will probably take the early lead in perceived electability, given that he is the only top-teir candidate with the clear potential to flip a blue state (Minnesota), and that both Palin and Huckabee are famously gaffe-prone. Combined with his adoring admirers on Wall Street, something the other two candidates lack, this could quickly make Pawlenty the favorite of the Republican establishment. That would make up for his comparatively lower name ID.
Unless someone like Tom Ridge runs, or a relative unknown emerges (which rarely, if ever, happens in Republican nomination campaigns), Huckabee, Palin and Pawlenty strike me as a difficult to separate top three at this point. They are also the only Republican candidates who, as of now, appear to have any chance of defeating President Obama in 2012. All of their chances will depend just as much on the success of the Democratic trifecta in turning around the economy, as it will the performance and effectiveness of their own campaigns.

See also: 2012 swing states and 2012 polling.

Chris Bowers :: Looking At The 2012 Republican Field

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Will Ron Paul run again? (4.00 / 2)
He'll turn 77 in 2012, but having a date of birth determined by carbon dating has never been an impediment to seeking the Republican nomination.

Not that I like Ron Paul or think he has a chance.  I hated him the most of any Republican wannabe in 2008 and his supporters are the slice of the GOP that I most loathe (and I detest his non-Republican libertarian supporters even more), but it would be fun to look forward to kicking him around again and trolling his fanatical fanbase.

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Actually, he might have an heir apparent. (4.00 / 2)
The Ron Paul phenomenon is an interesting one, and if capitalized on it might mean that the future of the Republican party is a contest between libertarians and fundamentalists, a choice between a witch and the devil I think.  That said, Gary Johnson, the former governor of New Mexico, has expressed interest in the nomination and might be a serious version of Paul:

http://libertymaven.com/2008/1...

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Mittens!! (0.00 / 0)
While it's still early, I think we'll see the Establishment support coalesce (is that the word I want?) behind Romney as it is "his turn", much like it has around every GOP nominee dating back to, at least, Ford.  Either that, or they bail on Mittens and throw their chips in with Pawlenty, who soon faces a tough dilemma: follow the law by signing Franken's certificate and pissing off the base, or refuse to do so and piss off everyone else.

...Dammit, primaries are 30 months away, at least, and now I'm trying to game it out.


Don't denigrate Mitty ... (4.00 / 3)
Agreed.  Someone as 1950s-weird as Romney would have to have an incredibly lucky break to be able to win in the general election, but as of right now, I'd pick him as the most likely to win the primaries.  It's his "turn," he's been one of the most prominent campaigners thus far, he would likely lose Iowa to the Huckster again (or even Sarah Palin) but win New Hampshire, he's got bags and bags of money, and most importantly, he's the type of daddy-knows-best father figure that right-wingers love to love.

I see Pawlenty as a highly viable candidate if there is some sort of widespread Republican shift toward wanting a more moderate candidate, though.  While that's not looking likely now with today's GOP, 2.5 years is a long time away.


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Is Pawlenty Opting Out of a Third Term Because He Can't Get Elected?!? (4.00 / 2)
Minnesota Governor Tim Pawlenty announced today that he wouldn't seek a third Governor's term in 2010. The question is why?

Most of the press thinks it's because he intends to run for the Republican Presidential Nomination in 2012 and needs the time to push towards that run.

I think, however, that the miserable publicity and lack of concern for State residents having a full Congressional representation which Pawlenty has built up while supporting Norm Coleman's attempt to steal the senatorial election from Al Franken is the real cause. The people, even those who didn't support Franken in the first place, are pretty pissed-off that Pawlenty didn't certify Franken after the recount, or after the recount review that gave him even more votes, but has backed Coleman's taking the recount to the State Supreme Court where arguments wereplayed out yesterday.

The press and observers don't think Coleman has a chance after Jurists seriously questioned the lack of rel information he was using. When they come back, probably in the next couple of weeks, with a verdict, and if it supports Franken, which most of the press assumes it will, Pawlenty will be stuck on a spear through the butt! At that point, Franken can probably get seated by Harry Reid and won't need Pawlenty, and Pawlenty's participation in a stall that didn't work will make him appear much weaker.

Will he go hand and hand with Coleman to the US Supreme Court? If he does, he'll be screwed in front of a much bigger National audience... and there goes the Presidency.

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His approval ratings there are abysmal... (0.00 / 0)
Something like 70% of Minnesottans don't want him to run again...

When you hear hoofs running down main street, look for horses, not zebras.  

Your analysis is spot on... He's done in Minnessota...

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I was thinking some on this last night. (4.00 / 3)
Pawlenty doesn't have a prayer.  He has to win Iowa, his neighbor state, to be viable I think, and Iowa's going to be a blood bath on the right.  Pawlenty's conservative, but by Republican's current standards he's moderately so.

There are some others you didn't count in the mix as well-

Haley Barbour is headed to Iowa and New Hampshire, but I can't see him really lighting a fire under anyone's feet but lobbyists.

John Ensign is making noise, though I really don't see what he brings to the table other than being a western senator.

Some people talk about Mitch Daniels, but I think he's too tied to Bush to be viable and not dynamic enough to break from the pack.

The one to watch, I think, is Mark Sanford.  He's really been rubbing the radical right's belly as of late and he could very well mount a strong campaign: he's well known among party insiders, meets all the conservative litmus tests, untainted by association with McCain, and he's a Southern white guy (come on, you know they want one).

Of those you mentioned-

Giuliani isn't viable for the reasons you mentioned, and I agree that Jindal probably won't run.

I think Gingrich is just hogging the lime light.  He won't actually run for president, he just enjoys the attention.

If Huckabee is able to raise way more cash than last time, then he's a serious contender.  (He's my former governor, and I never would have imagined that a few years back.)  However, I'm not sure if he'll be able to match Palin's star power.

Even if Huckabee and the others eat up huge chunks of Palin's base she'll still have conservatie women.  Plus she appeals to the gun crowd in ways few ever could with her, shall we say, interesting life style.  She needs to win Iowa, and she could very well do it.

Romney is the one candidate who can stay out of Iowa.  He didn't win it last time and now there's no McCain in the race so he stands a chance of winning New Hampshire.  If he could do that and put to rest some of the base's loathing for him, enough to win primaries where the opposition was split, he could very well be the nominee, and I've got to admit I relish the thought.

The guy that complicates this picture is Jeb Bush.  He'd be the nominee hands down if he wanted it I think, but would Republicans really want to take the chance on another Bush?  Hell, would he even run?

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Sanford's definitely a factor (4.00 / 1)
He's bug-shit insane, but that's not about to stop him.

He'd be a fantastic general election candidate to face. Residual southern identity might flip NC back to the Republicans and take GA off the table, but he'd be too extreme for most of the rest of the country.

We could make a serious play for Montana and the Dakotas, we'd be favoured in Arizona and we could start putting roots down in Indiana and Ohio. Meanwhile, I don't think there are any Obama states bar NC he'd seriously threaten.

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Jeb Jeb Jeb Jeb Jeb Jeb (0.00 / 0)
The Republican party has not won a presidential race without either the name Bush or Nixon on the ticket since 1928.

all good things must end (0.00 / 0)
wait, did i say "good"? I meant "totally sucky."

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i still put my money on (0.00 / 0)
"other." Though Republicans are fond of the seniority system.

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