Sotomayor Still Cruising; "Strict Constructionist" Is A Minority Viewpoint

by: Chris Bowers

Wed Jun 03, 2009 at 11:30


Two judicial polling posts in one this morning:

1. Sotomayor Cruising Toward Confirmation
Another poll came out today showing Sonia Sotomayoor cruising toward confirmation. The AP / GfK poll shows 50% of the country favoring Sotomayor's nomination, with only 22% opposed. This is the third poll asking a direct question on Sotomayor's nomination, all of which have put her in safe territory.

A comparative look at the first three confirmation polls on the four Supreme Court nominees since 2005 show just how safe Sotomayor really is:

First Three Polls, Last Four Supreme Court Nominees
Roberts: +27.3% (Confirm 51.0%--23.7%, AP, ABC and Newsweek)
Sotomayor +23.4% (Confirm 49.7%--26.3% Not Confirm, Rasmussen, AP and Gallup)
Alito: +11.4% (Confirm: 37.7%--26.3% Not Confirm, AP, Newsweek and Fox)
Miers: +8.0% (Confirm 36.7%--28.7% Not Confirm, Pew, Fox, AP)

Public opinion on confirming Sotomayor is far closer to Roberts territory than to Alito or Miers. Roberts sailed through the nomination process, and it is a solid bet that Sotoamyor will sail through as well.

Update: Rasmussen has just released a widely outlying poll on Sotomayor today, showing the public favoring he confirmation by only 41%--36%. Even if that was included in the average, replacing the orginal Rasmussen polls, Sotomayor is still at 47.7% confirm--28.3% Not Confirm, far ahead of Alito, and still closer to Roberts.

However, consider that Rasmussen also has consistently claimed that Republicans are winning the generic congressional ballot, a finding that has consistently been repudiiated by every other pollster on the subject. They also find a lot more Republicans in the country than any other polling firm. In 2009, they are consistently skewing Republican.

2. "Strict Constructionists" Not in the Majority
In looking through old supreme court polling  to compile this post, I came along this interesting nugget:

ABC News/Washington Post Poll. July 21, 2005. N=500 adults nationwide. MoE ± 4.5. Fieldwork by TNS.

"Do you think the U.S. Supreme Court should base its rulings on its understanding of what the U.S. Constitution meant as it was originally written, or should the court base its rulings on its understanding of what the U.S. Constitution means in current times?"

Cuurent Meaning: 50%
Originally Written: 46%.
Unsurer: 4%

In the same vein, a Quinnpiac poll from July 2008 showed a 52%-40% majority in favor of "current realities" over "original intentions," while a Fox poll from August 2005 showed a 47%--36% plurality for "framer's intent" over "meaning in today's world." The questions were all phrased differently, but no majority ever appeared for what conservatives call the "strict constructionist" position. In fact, in two out of three polls, the "living document" argument was in the majority.

This is relevant because I can't remember a single politician ever arguing that we need judges who will interpret the Constitution in a way that is relevant to our own times, even though it appears to be the more common viewpoint among the American public. About all we ever hear from Republicans and Democrats alike is how we need strict interpretations of what the founders intended. I guess it isn't surprising that a piece of conservative rhetoric dominates our political discourse even though it is a minority position. This is hardly the only example of that happening.

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I wonder how many respondents (4.00 / 1)
could say something intelligible about "strict constructionism" or even "original intent."   That would be a meaningful question in that it would show that these buzzwords only serve to cheapen the debate about serious national issues and have no objective, meaningful content beyond demagoguery.  

The legal theory blog is helpful here; Richard Posner, for all his myriad faults, also gets it.


At what point... (0.00 / 0)
do we stop considering Rasmussen a serious non-partisan pollster?  I've said this many times on this site: you can't take his polls seriously, except for political race polls very close to the election date.  

Early in every political race his polls are almost always outliers, significantly more favorable to the R (push polls - Will you vote for the R who will save the world and give you a pony, or the D who will steal all your money and give it to blacks and Mexicans?).  As election day approaches, he actually conducts real, unbiased polls and comes into agreement with other pollsters.  This way he can claim to be a serious non-partisan pollster (the results show he is actually quite good at real genuine polling).  

When it comes to non-political races, when there is no way to ever verify his results (an election), every poll is a push poll skewed to the R/conservative view.  I know Chris does not like to discount polls, but I don't see how you can reasonably keep seriously considering a so-called non-partisan pollster who consistently puts out polls that only skew (heavily) in one direction (R/conservative).  It doesn't matter the issue, and its not like his polls are crappy and all over the place, skewing D/liberal one day and R/conservative the next.  The only reasonable explanation for this is Ras has seriously biased methods, quite likely overt push-polls.  

I don't have any stats to back this up, but this is certainly my gut feeling.  I would love it if someone had the time to look at early political race polling and see how Ras compares to other pollsters - and how he fares with respect to the outcome.  I'd do it myself but I'm currently working on my tenure dossier and that is all consuming.  


what the constitution "meant when it was written" (4.00 / 1)
One thing that's weird about the strict constructionist viewpoint is that it demands that we engage in a weird sort of moral relativism: we have to try and figure out the cultural context of the people who lived over 200 years ago, and come to conclusions based on what we think they would have thought. I think the phrasing of the ABC poll sort of brings the oddness of this closer to the surface, and that's one reason it shows less support for the "strict constructionist" point of view than, e.g., the Fox poll does.

Prorgessive Constitutionalism (0.00 / 0)
I want to highlight two points, one that Chris made that I think deserves emphasis, and one I want to add.

First, as Chris notes, this is how these polls turn out even though there is very little in the way of politicians, media figures or anyone else offering alternatives to dead constitutionalism / skyscraper originalism (meaning is completely fixed and all questions are already settled.)  This suggests that the alternative would do much better if people were actually hearing arguments for it.

Second, the best alternative to the conservative view is not non-originalism living constitutionalism, but rather one which marries the central idea of originalism (the text should be understood in the context in which it was adopted) with the central idea of living constitutionalism (that the text is implemented by making its words make sense in the context of today, where the text can limit and shape possible constructions but cannot determine outcomes in difficult cases on its own.) This version takes seriously constitutional contributions by the other branches as well as the contributions of social movements, while still allowing for a robust role of the judiciary (thus taking the good from both the judicial restraint and courts-as-rights-protectors positions).

That is, we are winning with a version that is flawed and not our best work in the subject - imagine how well we'd be doing if we got this message out.

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Even if you think originalism has a place (0.00 / 0)
in jurisprudence, the tendency towards over-reliance on a precious few sources troubles me.  Why is it that the Constitutional Convention represents the end-all, be-all for studying what the framers thought?  This is especially true when our understanding of what happened there comes almost exclusively from Madison's notes.  While they're incredibly informative, the limitations of such a source should be obvious.

I've never understood why Constitutional scholars haven't looked more seriously at the debates from the various state-level ratification conventions and such information isn't brought to bear along with Madison's insights.    


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Originalism has gone through (0.00 / 0)
a number of different versions. The earliest ones focused on things like the Convention or the views of the Framers, later versions focused on things like state conventions and the views of the ratifiers. Next came more of a societal focus (how did those who lived at that time understand these words.) The current version moves quickly from the words of the Constitution to sources that pre-date it (how did scholarship like international law sources understand these particular terms.)

All of these have the same flaw - they look to originalism to provide definitive answers to our present controversies. They treat history as a detailed blueprint - rather than a framework. This requires a more subtle historical understanding that looks to numerous sources, rather than saying "X source is where we will find constitutional meaning."  

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