Sestak Challenge Becomes Even More Likely

by: Chris Bowers

Mon Jun 08, 2009 at 02:44


From pa2010:

"It would take an act of God for me to not get in now," Sestak told a Democratic State Committeeman Saturday morning within earshot of reporters.

There is something tautological in all this, as technically as "act of God" can stop anything. Still, it gets the point across, and does so in plain language.

Sestak is an extraordinarily relentless campaigner--I have honestly never seen anyone better than him on this front. His constituent services are, from what I understand, possibly the best in the entire Congress. His biography and resume are difficult, if not impossible, to match. Further, he is significantly more progressive than Specter according to all voting scorecards Also, despite the standing ovations in front of the party leadership, there was a stronger anti-Specter undercurrent at the state Democratic committee this weekend then I think most news reports are indicating. You are talking about hundreds of people who spent thirty years trying to defeat Specter, after all.

I don't think many people are Democrats just for the sake of Democrats accumulating more power. People become Democrats because of the causes and ideals represented by the party. An octogenarian Senator who switched parties to save his job and who fails to cross even the bare minimum threshold on many of these causes and ideals is simply not why people are Democrats. The insider relationship that Governors and other high ranking party officials care about are irrelevant to the rank and file. In a campaign this high profile, most high ranking endorsements won't matter much, either. People want cheaper health care, and they don't want elections decided for them behind closed doors.

This is going to be a very close, election. I'm one Pennsylvania Democrat, state committee member, and former union organizer, who is throwing his lot with Joe Sestak.

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As I understand it, Joe's not exactly the progressive (4.00 / 8)
candidate most of us would like, but he sure as hell beats Specter. And I would love nothing more than a resounding repudiation of the Democratic Party Insiders who are trying to force Specter down our throats. If Sestak is the one, then just like you, I'm all in. (Insert the appropriate "poker chips into the center of the table" metaphor here).

You know, I keep hearing that too, but I never see any evidence to support it. (4.00 / 6)
The people parroting that (and I'm not directing this at you by any means Oaktown Girl) seem to have this image in mind of Sestak.  I've heard him referred to as everything from a moderate to a conservative, and one guy over at swingstate even referred to him as a Neocon!  But when you look over the guys voting record, much less the things he said when he was running for congress, you get a totally different picture.  He's actually very progressive, even more so when you consider that he's from a district that's only become Democratic in recent years and then not by tremendous margins.  I'd like for those who keep saying Sestak's not a progressive to link to the votes/statements they have trouble with for once instead of just typing up their assumptions (again, not referring to Oaktown Girl in the least).

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He's not very good on FISA issues ... (4.00 / 3)
IIRC .. so that is one area that he's no better than Snarlin' Arlen

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Thanks (4.00 / 2)
(again, not referring to Oaktown Girl in the least).

for your courtesy. And I hope Sestak is indeed better than we out-of-staters have been led to believe. And if Calvin's correct (below) about him being weak on FISA, hopefully running agaist Specter will force him into taking a stronger position on that.


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and if nothing else (4.00 / 4)
It will be great to have a spring 2010 race to blog. :)

I will probably cross the border to volunteer next year.  Gotta worry about Corzine and the NJ Assembly this year though.

New Jersey politics at Blue Jersey.


Awesome. Bracing. (0.00 / 0)
Looking forward to your updated on this...

Bowers, I love this line: (4.00 / 5)
"I don't think many people are Democrats just for the sake of Democrats accumulating more power. People become Democrats because of the causes and ideals represented by the party."

Thank you so much for saying that so articulately.  I've been trying to get that point a cross to many of my more cautious and less driven Democratic friends for a long time.

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"People become Democrats because of the causes and ideals represented by the party."

Harharharhar!!!

Where are those "causes and ideals?"

Are they under the bombs that kill children in Afghanistan?

Are they locked away in a vault at Goldman Sachs, along with Obama's trillion-dollar give-away to criminal  bankers?

Or have the "causes and ideals" of the Democratic Party flown away into Never-Never Land with Obama's lies about renegotiating NAFTA and transparency in government  and filibustering telecom immunity and pushing the EFCA?

Harharharhar!!!

"Ideals of the Democrats!"

It's like "corners of the circle!"

Ocean beaches in Omaha!

Unicorns!

And wouldn't unicorns make a great mascot for Obama's Democrats!

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Nice picture. (4.00 / 2)
Anything else to contribute?

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Sestak's Fundraising? (4.00 / 2)

Can he hold his own against the insiders' juggernaut?  The netroots have matured but I am not sure we have come far enough to go toe-to-toe with Obama, Bill Clinton, Ed Rendell, Chuck Schumer and the rest of the establishment.  Not that Sestak has to match them dollar-for-dollar, but can he, starting out about $3 million behind, raise enough to win the race?

He can ... (4.00 / 1)
don't forget .. if Sestak is running .. that means he has the unions in PA behind him ... so they'll be a huge help .. so yes .. if Sestak runs .. he'll be fine money wise

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People said the same thing about Obama (4.00 / 2)
Remember when Obama was the outsider against the Clinton insanely-powerful-insider-juggernaut machine?

Sestak might not be able to go dollar for dollar, but I am sure he will bring in enough, especially with labor's support, to make this a race.


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I Think Sestak Could Win In A Blowout (4.00 / 6)
I'm not predicted it, by any means.  I only mean it's something I can envision as a possibility.

It was really only the union support that saved Specter after he went after Anita Hill, as I understood it at the time.  And the way he's dicking around on EFCA now, I really don't think he's going to have any Dem constituency that doesn't have some reason to despise him.  Those reasons may not be foremost in people's minds right now, but give Sestak the necessary war chest and allies to boot, and that could really change, "big time" as America's #2 war criminal is prone to saying.

"You know what they say -- those of us who fail history... doomed to repeat it in summer school." -- Buffy The Vampire Slayer, Season 6, Episode 3


hmm... (0.00 / 0)
On Saturday, Sen. Arlen Specter (D-PA) addressed a crowd of union activists in Pittsburgh and answered for his wavering on EFCA.

"You want my vote, I want yours," heckled one of the activists.

"I believe you'll be satisfied with my vote on this issue," Specter said in response. You can watch the video here.

http://tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo...


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I also (0.00 / 0)
support Sestak.

Good post, Chris.


Sestak mailer says he's going to run.... (0.00 / 0)
I got it this weekend...check goes out to him tomorrow!

What recommends Sestak more than anything else (4.00 / 11)
is that he dares to defy the party bosses.


Indeed (4.00 / 3)
Got to hand him that!

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I'm in Maryland... (4.00 / 4)

 ...just under the Mason-Dixon line. I'm also on our county Democratic Central Committee. FWIW, the issue of Specter came up in passing in our last meeting. NONE of the ten committee members in attendance expressed any love for Arlen, and when I mentioned that Sestak might be challenging him (being the only bloggy guy on the committee, I was the only one who knew this), I got a very positive response.

 This is in Maryland. I hope the feeling is much stronger in PA.  

"We judge ourselves by our ideals; others by their actions. It is a great convenience." -- Howard Zinn


You pushed my button with this, Chris (0.00 / 0)
People become Democrats because of the causes and ideals represented by the party.

  But how does this explain individuals like Joe Lieberman, Ben Nelson, Harold Ford, Evan Bayh, Jane Harman, Dianne Feinstein, Lanny Davis, Al From, and far too many others to mention?

  I've never understood what would drive any of the aforementioned to identify with the Democratic Party to begin with, given their reactionary politics. I know that if I had shared their values during my politically formative years, I would have very naturally become a Republican.

 And yet they call themselves Democrats. It's a puzzle.  

"We judge ourselves by our ideals; others by their actions. It is a great convenience." -- Howard Zinn


In the case of Harold Ford, (0.00 / 0)
it's because he comes from Memphis and Republicans cannot get elected in Memphis. He wears the blue uniform for his own purposes only.

I'm guessing the others have similar stories?

Montani semper liberi


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Who cares why they call themselves Democrats? (0.00 / 0)
They don't act like it, so they don't deserve the support of those who back up their talk with actions.

The overwhelmingly majority of Democrats have more reasoning behind their vote than naked power calculations.

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Chris isn't talking about politicians. (4.00 / 1)
He's talking about voters, activists, ordinary folks without any power.

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True, but... (0.00 / 0)

 ...to become a Dem heavy hitter, one must first work her way through the Dem system and power structure... which implies identifying as a Dem to begin with.

 If you grow up with contempt for working-class Americans, a lust for war, an embrace of the police state, and a disdain for the Constitution...well, why would you pursue a career as a Democratic officeholder, when there's a perfectly viable Republican Party right there in front of you much more in sync with your views?

  THAT's the part I don't get.

  And it's not just an academic exercise (responding to Englishlefty above) -- as long as these people are around, they're the ones hogging the media spotlight as representative of the "liberal" perspective. And that's extremely damaging to the party -- and the nation.
   

"We judge ourselves by our ideals; others by their actions. It is a great convenience." -- Howard Zinn


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