A New Path To Progressive Power

by: Chris Bowers

Fri Jun 12, 2009 at 18:38


Given Representative Lynn Woolsey's claims about the White House playing extreme hardball with freshman progressives over the Afghanistan supplemental, it is important to note that her claims are, in all likelihood, exaggerated.  The White House is applying pressure, but it probably isn't in the cartoonish form of "vote with us on this or you are dead to us forever." It is extremely rare for such a threat to ever be made in D.C. politics. Further, it is unlikely that consensus seeking President Obama or freshman Democrat defending Rahm Emanuel would make such a threat. Pretty much across the board, threats like those just don't fit the profile of the technocratic and cautious figures that compose much of the Democratic leadership. Karl rove might make such a threat, but even he probably wouldn't do it very often.

However, it is also likely that new progressive tactics--specifically, joining with Republicans to block and / or alter Democratic legislation--are frustrating the Democratic leadership. It is a lesson Progressives have learned from Blue Dogs. Over the past few years, Blue Dogs have demonstrated an ability to wield influence through constant threats, and some actual instances of, joining with Republicans to block Democratic legislation. While the tactic has long proven to be effective no matter what faction of the Democratic Party does it, until recently there hadn't been a Progressive--Conservative alliance for, according to Dennis Kucinich, almost ten years (more in the extended entry):

Chris Bowers :: A New Path To Progressive Power
The GOP is also objecting to the inclusion of IMF money in the war bill. Kucinich recalled that the last time progressive Democrats joined with Republicans to defeat a Democratic agenda item came in 1999, when 26 Democrats sided with Republicans to block President Clinton's continuing bombing of Serbia.

"Republicans had their own agenda," recalled Kucinich.

Further, the Afghanistan-IMF funding bill is not the only area where Progressives have managed to increase their clout by joining with Republicans. Ron Paul's legislation to audit the Federal Reserve now has 223 co-sponsors in the House, enough for passage. About one-quarter of the co-sponsors are Democrats, and most of them are Progressives. Alan Grayson helped whip on this bill, for example.

No matter what pressure the White House is or is not applying, Progressives haven't done themselves any favors over the past ten years by pretty much always bowing to leadership pressure. The progressive caucus has the most consistently loyal voting habits to the leadership of all ideological caucuses, but unfortunately that loyalty has not yielded much in the way of progressive legislation or influence for the past decade. Progressives could have, for example, used this coalition to force significant alterations to the Wall Street bailout. Instead, Progressives caved to leadership pressure at a rate far exceeding that of other Democrats, and a virtual blank check ended up passing through Congress.

A new coalition is forming, and it has a real chance to pass a lot of legislation. Further, it also has the potential to significantly increase the influence of Progressives within the House. The lesson is clear: Progressives will be pressured if they go up against the Democratic leadership, but with that pressure comes the potential for influence.


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oh really? (4.00 / 5)
Given Representative Lynn Woolsey's claims about the White House playing extreme hardball with freshman progressives over the Afghanistan supplemental, it is important to note that her claims are, in all likelihood, exaggerated.

based on what? Woolsey is there, she is going on the record. I think we have to take this very seriously. This is a first hand account.


Yeah, there's a reason... (4.00 / 4)
Why the Chief of Staff's called "Rahmbo". I've been familiar with Lynn Woolsey for quite some time, and I know she's no liar.

Yes, Virginia, there are progressives in Nevada.

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and many (if not all the) freshmen owe their seats to Rahm -- he made 'em, and he can break 'em (0.00 / 0)
-- he's exactly in a position to make a concrete threat that carries real weight.

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Well, for one thing it's hearsay... n/t (0.00 / 0)


REID: Voting against us was never part of our arrangement!
SPECTER: I am altering the deal! Pray I don't alter it any further!
REID: This deal keeps getting worse all the time!


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Really. (0.00 / 0)
So if Progressives are going to cave because they are being threatened, then we can abandon "better" along with "more" Democrats.    I can't believe all of the excuses being bought and sold.  Why elect anybody if they all have "good reason" to screw the country over.  The one thing Democrats are clearly demonstrating is that R or D, the people and the country lose.  

Until we can speak softly and carry a big stick, Democrats are useless.  Everytime a Blue Dog or DLC corporate globalist sells out working people for corporations, we need to run ads against them.  If we can make them spend more money and/or lose, we will finally have a stick.  


They're asking for another four years -- in a just world, they'd get 10 to 20. ~~ Dennis Kucinich  


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It may just work. (4.00 / 7)
After all, look at what happened in California last month with the May 19 special election. Many in the CA Democratic Party (CDP) leadership were working hard to align the whole party behind Arnold's special election initiatives (which were largely his same failed conservative policies). But somehow, progressives found a voice... And used it! Most of the props failed to get endorsed at the CDP Convention in Sacramento in April, then a large chunk of the progressive Democratic base joined with most of the GOP base in successfully defeating Props 1A-1E.

And guess what? After acquiescing to Arnold for so long, the Dem leadership in CA is showing signs of hope. They're rejecting the draconian budget cuts, and hopefully they'll unite behind one tax reform plan (though we still have more work to do with them).

Perhaps we need to do the same on the federal level. If the bill sucks, just walk away from it. If there's no public option in the health care bill, make the Republicans provide votes for what would be their "free market" crap. If there's no real renewable energy investment and hard carbon cap, don't back a toothless climate & energy bill. We need to stop backing bad bills and work harder to force the Dem leaders to stick with good bills.

Yes, Virginia, there are progressives in Nevada.


About time we get off our knees. n.t (0.00 / 0)


They're asking for another four years -- in a just world, they'd get 10 to 20. ~~ Dennis Kucinich  

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I'm not about to call Woolsey a liar or exaggerator (4.00 / 9)
But whatever was actually said and meant by the WH to progressive Dems, it's clear that they're currently in a predominantly adversarial relationship over most policy points, that is almost entirely the doing of the WH, and not the progressives. While they continue to push for genuinely progressive legislation, they've also shown a willingness to compromise. Whereas the WH has not been pushing for very progressive legislation, and has shown little willingness to compromise with progressives--while at the same time pushing much more aggresively for a center-right agenda, especially regarding national security and civil liberties, and showing much willingness to compromise with with center-right.

Carrots and appeals to reason and decency aren't working, and I agree that it's time to employ more sticks. Electorally that means primarying non-progressives. PR-wise that means getting out there and promoting a progressive agenda to the public (and I'm not sure why this isn't happening, in the form of TV ads, rallies, major speeches, appearances on all the political shows, etc.). And legislatively, it means subverting the WH's agenda when and where possible and necessary, including allying with certain conservatives on certain issues where there's common ground (if for very different reasons--progressives do not view the Federal Reserve as an evil unconstitutional institution, just one that needs reform and oversight, but whatever, politics makes for strange bedfellows and all).

Ultimately, it's less what's said than what's done that matters.

"Those who stand for nothing fall for anything...Mankind are forever destined to be the dupes of bold & cunning imposture" -- Alexander Hamilton


Good comment! (4.00 / 2)
There is one thing I am continually irked by, however.  Is it at all possible to define what constitutes the "center" in using the label "center-right?"  I ask this because from my observations there is nothing even remotely moderate about the extreme right-wing positions taken by Republicans and far too many Democrats.



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I meant the political center (0.00 / 0)
Not the ideological center. I.e. where the establishment hangs out, not where ideas meet, if that makes sense. Ideologically, progressives are a lot more aligned with most Americans than the right, so I'd say that progressivism is actually the ideological center right now, from a purely statistical perspective. But politically, the right still runs the country and dominates discussions about policy. And I only say "center-right" because we're talking about a coalition of true conservatives and conservative Dems.

"Those who stand for nothing fall for anything...Mankind are forever destined to be the dupes of bold & cunning imposture" -- Alexander Hamilton

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Uhm you think? (0.00 / 0)
Interesting fact ...

On Prop 8 in California.

Union members voted 56% YES and 44% No.
Non-Union members voted <50% Yes and >50% No
That is not a fluke.  Union membership has been reliable indicator of voting against SSM.

So if not for the union members ... prop 8 would have failed.

Union members are the #1 constituency with membership in the NRA ( yep higher than neocons ).

Union members have historically and regularly voted for EVERY limitation on abortion rights, particular parental notification.

Union Members have the highest number of military veterans of any constituency.

In fact, Union Members down the line pretty much deny, vote against, and hate the progressive agenda without fail.

If you want a picture of "reagan Democrats" look at your Trade Union member.

If the Republicans had any clue whatsoever, they could stage a full comeback and gain power forever, simply by stopping their anti-union policies and putting forth pro-collective bargaining policies.

They would flip 6-8% of the electorate immediately from the Democratic ticket to the republican ticket forever.
Because, again, straight down the line ... rank and file union members are pretty much anti-progressive policies.


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Ah, okay. (0.00 / 0)
It seemed as though you meant the ideological variety.  My fault for leaping to conclusions.  Sorry.  As for the so-called "center-right" coalition of "true" conservative Republicans and conservative Democrats, my original point still stands.  We need to be abundantly clear: there is no such thing as a "moderate" conservative today.  On virtually every issue, the political-ideological right takes the most extreme position and drags the Democrats down the same path it takes.  I'd like to see someone far more eloquent than I define once and for all what constitutes the ideological "center" and how one can be "extreme" left or extreme right.  It seems to me that voting for continuing the occupations of Iraq and Afghanistan, and ramping up war in Pakistan, is rather extreme given the policy of shooting without even bothering to ask questions at any time.



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It means targeting them with ads (0.00 / 0)
every time they support their corporate pals over the country and the people as well as running against them in primaries.   If we can show their true colors to the public, cost them more money to run, and make them lose, I don't care who wins.  It is time for the stick - a really big stick.  

They're asking for another four years -- in a just world, they'd get 10 to 20. ~~ Dennis Kucinich  

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More than ads (4.00 / 1)
I think that it needs to be a sustained full-spectrum effort, that includes ads, rallies, speeches, articles, TV appearances, LTE's, petitions, call-ins, fundraisers, primary challenges, boycotts, etc. I.e. people power, effectively channeled. Community organizing (heh) on a national scale.

I also think that it's time to transition from the current MO of us being outraged at the latest Obama/Dem capitulation or flip-flop and crying bloody murder he broke his promise oh my, to accepting that he and they are politicians who do what they want to do because it suits them, not us, and hold them to the same standards that we've held other politicians to in the past.

I.e. it's time to move beyond not only the celebration phase of his and Dems taking over, but also the outrage phase of realizing that they are not who we hoped they'd be, to the what can we do now to affect the outcome phase. I.e. back to politics as usual, adversarial when it needs to be, collaborative when it can be. I'm franly getting tired of my own outrage. Ok, we get it, he's not a progressive, or is at least a very poor, unprincipled and cowardly one. We all see that now. So what do we DO about it, beyond merely whining about it?

Or, to paraphrase The One, we, not he, are the ones we have been waiting for.

"Those who stand for nothing fall for anything...Mankind are forever destined to be the dupes of bold & cunning imposture" -- Alexander Hamilton


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Good article, Chris... (0.00 / 0)
OK, but, here's what I'm missing...

What does the progressive caucus want?  The lieberman ammendment is out...  so, what are they angling for?

The whole reason they are in this mess is 'cos of the IMF funding, which the republicans want to block...  If the votes aren't there, then I guess they would just take that out, which would suck for everybody.... or not?  I don't know...

What, exactly, is the disagreement over?  I can't seem to find that out...

REID: Voting against us was never part of our arrangement!
SPECTER: I am altering the deal! Pray I don't alter it any further!
REID: This deal keeps getting worse all the time!


IMO, all three parts of the supplemental funding bill are bad... (4.00 / 4)
The Lieberman amendment that allowed the detainee photos to be kept secret is now out, but was more Bush-like secret government.  

The second part of the bill is loans to the IMF.  The IMF is primarily an agent of neoliberal economics.  Loans from the IMF to third world countries are often conditional on cutting social spending, lessening the government deficit, cutting government subsidies for industries based in the country receiving the loans, and cutting back on subsistence agriculture.  Instead, the goal is to increase industrial and agricultural exports to earn foreign exchange.  The problem is that the country gettting the IMF loan exports its wealth and only the countiry's elite benefit.  The poor get poorer and often actually starve.  So the money to prop up the IMF is supporting these policies.

The third part of the bill is continued funding for war.  I would favor voting against this bill if it was only a supplemental war funding bill and the other add-ons were not part of it.

So I think it's great that the Progressive Caucus is opposing it.  They chose a great way to oppose three very negative policies all in one fell swoop.


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"out" as of this moment (4.00 / 1)
> The lieberman ammendment is out...  so, what are
> they angling for?

The Lieberman Amendment is out as of this moment.  These things have a way of "slipping" back in just before the final vote.

sPh


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Let the troops be a bargaining chip (4.00 / 1)
I'm in favor of the Progressive Caucus blocking this, then promising to change their votes if the White House becomes more forceful toward more progressive climate change and health care bills.

That's really the only leverage I can think of, unless you get some Senate Democrats to join with Republicans to filibuster Sotomayor just to throw their weight around and prove a point.

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gross (4.00 / 1)
are you serious? I hope you're kidding. let the troops be a bargaining chip? (I'm really tempted to make a "What Would Anthony de Jesus Do" joke.)

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I really am serious (0.00 / 0)
I am perhaps being intentionally tactless for shock effect, but I'm quite serious when I say that threatening to block Afghanistan-related funding is the most obvious way to try and gain leverage over the Obama administration on issues like health care and climate change.

Things You Don't Talk About in Polite Company: Religion, Politics, the Occasional Intersection of Both

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Chris, do you get HBO? (0.00 / 0)
If so, watch Entourage.  Then tell me that Ariel's brother wouldn't make a threat like that.

Seems a bit naive (0.00 / 0)
Chris writes:

The White House is applying pressure, but it probably isn't in the cartoonish form of "vote with us on this or you are dead to us forever."

Who said it had to be?

It is extremely rare for such a threat to ever be made in D.C. politics.

No, because consequences don't need to be stated to be understood.

Further, it is unlikely that consensus seeking President Obama or freshman Democrat defending Rahm Emanuel would make such a threat.

Consensus seeking? Leaving aside the primary-speak, a "consensus" as an outcome doesn't have to be the result of a consensual process. It was LBJ, after all, who quoted the Bible's "Come, let us reason together," and he was an expert in the arts of pressure.

Pretty much across the board, threats like those just don't fit the profile of the technocratic and cautious figures that compose much of the Democratic leadership.

So, Rahm sending a Time correspondent a dead fish is the very model of technocratic caution?

Karl rove might make such a threat, but even he probably wouldn't do it very often.

Because he didn't need to, right?

And the lead is very odd. Why start with a takedown of Lynn Woolsey, anyhow? Why not just go to the idea of the progressive caucus -- quelle idee -- exercising some muscle? She's also a women, a progressive, and in her first term -- all reasons for her to be much more sensitive to implied threats than, say, a Blue Dog male in a safe seat. Don't her characteristics make her more likely to be a give a good reading on the situation than a bad one?


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