Energy bill: Damned if we do, damned if we don't

by: Darcy Burner

Thu Jun 25, 2009 at 18:21


[Disclaimer: I'm writing this in my personal capacity.]

The House has scheduled a vote for tomorrow on the Waxman-Markey energy bill. This is a very hard vote. The environmental community is deeply split on the bill, as are the progressives in Congress. The basic arguments on each side can be summarized as follows:

• Pro: Climate change is the biggest catastrophe we face, a moral challenge surpassing every other. We cannot afford to wait any longer to address it. This bill is essential, putting in place an unprecedented and absolutely necessary framework to regulate carbon emissions at a rare moment when it's politically possible to put such a framework in place.

• Con: This bill has been so compromised that it isn't worth supporting. While it moves us forward in some areas, it moves us backwards in other key areas - especially relative to coal. It gives away billions to polluters. Historically the Senate and the reconciliation process only further water bills down. What we get out of the House, at this rare moment when it's possible to address this, should be far more progressive and far less compromised.

What I am describing is not a disagreement among progressives on the need to address catastrophic climate change, nor is it a disagreement about the fact that this is a deeply compromised bill. It is almost entirely a disagreement about what is possible politically and whether this is (a) the best we can do and a singular opportunity to do it, or (b) not as good as we can do and we should do the work of making it substantively better.

I'm not here to advocate for one side or the other in that particular argument. Honestly, I can't tell from where I sit which is the more correct analysis. But there is something which is extremely clear to me: we need to be prepared to step up now to provide real support to those Members of Congress who by behaving in a genuinely principled way put their re-election chances at risk.

Darcy Burner :: Energy bill: Damned if we do, damned if we don't
If you're a progressive in a marginal district, voting no is the smart move. It gives the Republicans no ammunition against you. When gas prices are sky-high next summer, they can't say it's because you voted for a huge tax increase on energy. And you can say to progressives that you did it because this bill wasn't good enough; you're covered coming and going.

However, if this does turn out to be the one chance we get, then defeating the bill is arguably the kind of mistake that would haunt a person of good conscience for a lifetime.

For those same progressives in marginal districts, voting yes ends up being entirely about conviction and principle, because it sure as heck isn't the savvy political move. It gives the Republicans ammunition - "Rep. Such-and-Such voted for the largest tax increase in history, and your gas and energy prices have skyrocketed because of it. Vote them out, now." And in those marginal districts, where we don't have the concentrations of environmentally-minded voters present in places like the district I ran in, that argument will carry weight.

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We talk a lot about wanting representatives who will display courage and conviction. But the real test of that isn't what they do when it's easy - it's what they do when it's hard.

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We will have some Members who are about to do something incredibly hard because they truly believe it's right. It seems to me that it's worth moving mountains to keep people like that in Congress.

There's a filing deadline in a few days on June 30. I've just dropped $1000 I can't really afford into trying to help them. Will you join me?

(My son Henry asked me on a sunny day roughly two years ago if he could use my webcam and he then recorded this. It was unscripted and unrehearsed. For this child, and for all the others like him, I'm doing everything I can.)

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The right votes against? (4.00 / 1)
I just learned that all three Rep. from West Virginia, including two Democrats, are voting against the bill. They say it doesn't do enough to protect the coal industry.

That tells me that maybe, just maybe, the bill has some real teeth.

It also makes me think there's room to strengthen it. The two Dem. congressman said a bunch of concessions were made to placate coal concerns, but they just weren't enough to win their votes. Let's roll back those concessions.

Clem G.
West Virginia Blue

They call me Clem, Clem Guttata. Come visit wild, wonderful West Virginia Blue


It Just Means The Compromise Was Pointless (4.00 / 4)
Coal wants to kill climate change the planet.  And coal owns W. Va.  They were never going to vote for anything, no matter how toothless it was made to be.

"You know what they say -- those of us who fail history... doomed to repeat it in summer school." -- Buffy The Vampire Slayer, Season 6, Episode 3

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Coal can kill the planet (0.00 / 0)
The big picture is that coal is the only important issue for climate change. Any bill that encourages more coal plants is just a bad bill.

Here are some facts:

The world's oil is more than half gone. Anybody who tells you different is just blowing smoke. The rest of the oil will be gone faster than most people alive today imagine. Don't plan on putting gas in your car thirty years from now. The car you have now is more likely to be your last car than you might think. Oil will be extremely valuable and desperately sought after. No legislation can prevent it from being burned.

Natural gas will be extracted and burned because it is less polluting than coal. No legislation will stop this, either.

Non-carbon energy (including nuclear) will be very expensive compared to coal. All the equipment for alternative energy (solar panels, wind turbines, etc.) will require much more maintenance than anyone is counting on, so the up-front costs will just be the beginning. The energy produced from alternative sources will remain pretty expensive. Conservation, conservation, conservation.

Coal is high-carbon, filled with poisons, and is a killer during every part of it life cycle, from extraction all the way to greenhouse gas. Clean coal is such B.S. that it is not worth mentioning. The USA has very significant coal reserves. Our policies toward extraction (mountain top mining) and use (building more coal fired plants) will set the pace for the rest of the world. Anything that encourages more coal fired plants today is the worst evil we can commit. Nothing else in the climate bill could outweigh this evil. To ramp up coal now is to literally murder future generations, who will have no way to grow crops on a hot, dry planet.

Nothing else but coal matters to me in the climate bill. Subsidizing coal sickens me. I want nothing to do with it.



ec=-8.50 soc=-8.41   (3,967 Watts)


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Building the Alternative Energy Infrastructure (0.00 / 0)
Is the foremost task of this nation; if the bill moves us solidly in that direction, it must pass.

We can live with climate change; we cannot live with resource wars and economic collapse.


Lots of money for coal (4.00 / 1)
and some for alternative energy. Will adding a little to the alternative energy infrastructure offset the political problem caused by giving a bunch of money to the coal industry? I'm not sure this is a good tradeoff.

I'm frustrated that there has been little effort by the Obama administration to rally the grassroots against the coal industry. The coal industry (and oil and nuclear companies) are very strong. If we want to win anything, we have to energize our strength -- the grassroots. If the Obama administration does not do that, then inevitably it will be impossible to pass any decent legislation.

I'm thinking it is best to have this legislation fail. And then use that failure to point at all the special interests that killed it and rally people against the coal and agriculture interests that watered it down to nothing.


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White House Visitors Logs (0.00 / 0)
My understanding is Obama classified the WH visitor logs to cover up the meetings with Big Coal.

That would explain his absence from this debate, wouldn't you think?

"More than any other time in history, mankind faces a crossroads. One path leads to despair and utter hopelessness. The other, to total extinction. Let us pray we have the wisdom to choose correctly." -Woody Allen, My Speech to the Graduates


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These words may come back to haunt you! (0.00 / 0)
"We can live with climate change"
I'm gonna remind you of these words after the first horrible catastrophe that is demonstrably triggered by climate change. You sure know that the earth doesn't simply become hotter, but that the weather will become more arbitrarily, with extreme events becoming more likely. What are you gonna say to the families of the victims if they point fingers at you and cry "you said we can live with it!"?

Sry, Paul, I know that's harsh, but I really think you're taking this serious matter much too lightly!


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Record-setting temperatures in the US! Can ALL live with this? (0.00 / 0)
Deadly heat wave prompts warning from health officials
Health officials are urging Alabamians to take precautions during an earlier-than-usual heat wave that has brought record-setting temperatures to the southeastern part of the state, where it is linked to at least one death.
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Houston County Coroner Robert Byrd said earlier this week that Gayle Nash Moeur, 61, died of heatstroke over the weekend after being found unresponsive in her room at a Dothan hotel. Authorities said the room's air conditioner was not on.
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But particularly for the elderly, the more prolonged the heat is, the more risk they are in each day.

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Darcy, nicely written and understandable from your POV, but... (4.00 / 1)
If this is really such a big problem, just tell everyone to vote down this piece of crap. It's already been turned into massive subsidies for Big Coal and Big Nuke (which requires building lots more fossil fuel plants anyway), so let's just pull the plug on this disaster, shall we?

Personally, I've been leaning towards the position, "Yes this bill sucks, but let's pass it anyway, since there are some bread crumbs on the floor that might do some good." But over the last hour, I'm already shifting into a position of, "If these crass careerists can't manage to save their own children from disaster, lest they piss off their donors, then what's the point?"

From my own view, if this bill results in a bunch of crass crowing from congressional nitwits shouting, "Victory!" from their Georgetown condos, then this was all a big mistake. If it results in a mass huddle of those who actually give a proverbial s@*^, who then decide to launch another offensive on this matter, then fine, pass the damn thing.

But the bottom line is, this is about your son and his peers. Excuses and rationalizations won't count when the crop failures kick in, will they?

"More than any other time in history, mankind faces a crossroads. One path leads to despair and utter hopelessness. The other, to total extinction. Let us pray we have the wisdom to choose correctly." -Woody Allen, My Speech to the Graduates


I say kill it (0.00 / 0)
because if it passes we probably won't get another chance in the near future to fix it.  Of course if we can go back and fix it by the end of this year or the next then we should pass it; otherwise, let's kill it and start over, this time without having to lick Collin Peterson's asscheeks.

Simply kill it? Is it too late for serious changes? (0.00 / 0)
Abandoning the bill, and leaving it to die can only be the very last measure. I hope all possible levers are applied to turn that legislation into something helpful. Imho it would be irresponsible for progressives to throw in the towel too soon. If the net gain for the environment is still positive, the bill should pass.  Waiting for a better opportunity that may or may not come is too much gambling, for my taste. Time is of the essence, and a bird in the hand is worth two in the bush...

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