Changing The Dynamic of Congress--"The Choice Is Ours"

by: Paul Rosenberg

Sat Jun 27, 2009 at 14:00


In Chris's diary, "Backroom Deals, Inexorable Right-wing Slides ", Chris described the disastrous legislative end-game of the climate change bill, and briefly indicated the sort of determined progressive opposition that would be necessary to prevent this dynamic from repeating endlessly with every major piece of legislation.  

In this diary, I want review what Chris said in light of my old hobby-horse, the lack of progressive engagement in a Gramcian "culture war" (aka "hegemonic struggle")-a struggle to gain coordinated control of reality-defining cultural institutions.   Expanding on his discussion of missing in our congressional battles so far-and what it would take to change that-provides an excellent re-entry point to thinking about hegemonic struggle more generally, as well as thinking about winning specific legislative battles.

In other diaries this weekend, I want to further this exploration, reflecting on the confluence of changes happening in the media, the internet, and the world at large.  To begin, I turn first to Chris's description:

While environmental groups and climate change activists have repeatedly vowed that the bill needs to be strengthened, no amendments will be allowed on the floor debate that will actually allow the bill to be strengthened. Instead, the backroom deal means that coal and agribusiness get their concessions, but there isn't even a chance for green groups to try and make the bill better....

And if you want to know what the final language of the bill is before it is voted on, good luck with that. Not only is the bill already 1,201 pages, but the deal hasn't even been finalized....

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Paul Rosenberg :: Changing The Dynamic of Congress--"The Choice Is Ours"
So, you don't get to know what is in the bill until it is too late. Further, you get no chances to improve the bill. Yet further, Collin Peterson and his corporate interests get pretty much everything they want.

Keep in mind that this is on top of a bill which will not result in any more renewable energy than the business as usual model, and that will actually expand coal. And the Senate will probably only make it worse.

Without a hardline group of progressives willing to join with Republicans and defeat Democratic legislation unless that legislation meets certain progressive criteria, every legislative fight will follow this process of backroom deals with corporate interests resulting in an inexorable right-wing slide.

This is where things stand today, and it reflects the continued lack of progressive engagement in a Gramcian "culture war"--a struggle to gain coordinated control of reality-defining cultural institutions.  The lack of a hardline progressive block in Congress is just one aspect of a much larger failure to think and act strategically beyond the limits of one particular campaign, legislative battle or issue.

Chris goes on to describe what's needed to change the congressional dynamic, and what he describes--however briefly--is an excellent starting point for grasping what it would look like for progressives to finally begin responding in kind to the rightwing culture war of the past 30+ years.  As Chris explains:

Further, this group of progressives, which I call a Progressive Block (and yes, the "k" is intentional), needs to publicly draw clear lines in the sand long before draft legislation is introduced. Such public announcements allow the netroots and grassroots to help organize around the line in the sand. Otherwise, given the backroom nature of these dealings, there is no way for the progressive activist base to play any meaningful role in the legislative process, and all negotiation power is ceded to corproate lobbyists.

We either have the Progressive Block, which continues to give us leverage in the health care fight, or we have this disastrous climate change bill path where already weakened legislation gets dominated by Collin Peterson. The choice is ours.

The choice is ours, but to make that choice effective--one that exists as a real, living possibility, we need to break it down into bit-sized pieces that individual citizen-activists can actually do something about.  So I want to begin by picking Chris's description apart a bit to look at the different elements involved.  Here's my first stab at doing that:

(1) We need a Progressive Block of legislators with sufficient numbers to block legislation that doesn't meet the basic standards they set.  Without the mathematically potential nothing else makes much sense.  Some totally different strategy would have to be devised.  Fortunately, the Progressive Caucus does provide a large enough group of votes.  Of course, this doesn't mean we can count on having such a block.  But it does mean that creating such a block is at least theoretically possible with the existing Congress.  This in turn means that netroots/grassroots activists can lobby existing members of the Progressive Caucus to join in such an effort, preferrentialy as a matter of principled commitment, but if not on a case-by-case basis.

(2) We need that Progressive Block to be capable of coming up with such basic standards.  Just because people may agree in principle doesn't mean that they can actually reach agreement on a common set of standards for any given piece of legislation.  This sort of capacity is most likely to increase with practice, as people learn to work together more effectively.  It cannot be assumed to exist from the beginning, but it can be assumed that if people work on it in good faith, this capacity can be developed and strengthened over time.

(3) We need them to be willing to follow through, and actually block legislation that fails to meet their standards.  This is probably the most difficult aspect of the congressional side of things to begin with.  The existing dynamic so strongly favors special interests and those congressmembers who work closely with them that it's extremely challenging to get a group of progressives to be willing to walk away from legislation that gives them at least some of what they want--especially after the long drought of the Bush years.  Yet, without this willingness, we have nothing. Therefore, netroots/grassroots activists can play a crucial role in helping to fortify the resolve of congressmembers, so that they are wiliing to make this commitment--and to stick by it.

(4) We need them to publicly announce these standards well in advance of drafting legislation.  Compared to the first three, this should be relatively easy to achieve. But that doesn't mean it can be overlooked.  Being early on the scene is vital--especially since the special interests have already been on the scene for decades prior to any conceivable legislation.  No matter how early we may start our organizing, we are boujnd to be playing catch-up.

(5) We need netsroots and grassroots individuals and organizations to mobilize around the announced standards.  Right now, these exist primarily in the form of potential participants.  How far that potential is from reality can be seen in the spectacle of environmental groups like the LCV organizing on behalf of the highly compromised climate change bill, just to get something passed.  At this point in time, it's probably the case that those most willing to mobilize in support are those with the least institutional capacity.  While far from ideal, this simply reflects why this whole strategy is necessary in the first place.

We need to simply accept this as a matter of fact, and tell ourselves, "That's fine.  We need all the new blood we can find." Particularly when it comes to environmental activism, local activists are a far more tough-minded lot, IMHO, and increasingly many reflect an environmental justice attitude, that fundamentally integrates race and class into its thinking.

(6) We need effective means for these activists to bring pressure to bear on Senators and Representatives in every step of committee proceedings, up to and including House/Senate conference committees, as well as on floor debates and votes.  We certainly have a variety of the tools we need to do this, with varying degrees of experience in using them.  The potential is there to turn our scattered experience into dependable, well-run lobbying campaigns, including public media components as well as organized lobbying efforts. Nut this will clearly take a great deal of organized netsroots/grassroots effort in order to make it successful.  The upside is that the efforts involved in making this a reality will pay off in the form of organizational capacity that can make itself felt in other ways as well.  For example, this sort of organizing helps create a strong foundation for supporting the development of progressive candidates who come directly from the ranks of progressive organizations.

As I said before, this is just a first stab.  A bare-bones outline, if you will.  There's certainly room for a good deal more detailed breakdown of (5) and (6), for example.  And there's need for discussion of more general organizing principles, such as the development of messaging that's coherently grounded in progressive frameworks.  On the congressional side, we would be greatly aided by the reinstatement of the Office of Technology Assessment, which provided a solid reality-based baseline for legislation prior to its destruction by Newt Gingrich in 1995.  But I wanted to kick off this discussion with a relatively concise, manageable list of things we need, so as not to recreate feelings of overhwelm and helplessness.  It is a big job.  But it can be cut down into smaller, more manageable little jobs.  And we can organize ourselves to get them done.  As Chis said in his original post, "The choice is ours."


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Hammer, meet Nail (4.00 / 2)
These are all great points and well stated, per usual.

I can't understate how important #4 is. A progressive block that goes into situations knowing what it's going to do and why is a much stronger block. Mobilize ahead of time, appeal to public opinion and create a tsumani of sentiment about the agenda. This requires strategic thinking, which is the most sorely missing thing in the progressive community.

But 5 and 6 also feed nicely into that one as well, although I'm not too excited about the possibility of pressuring people once Bill X has entered into the back rooms. While it does seem to have some effect, as Jane Hamsher demonstrated so nicely with the Supplemental, it still fell well short.  But this is why I'm so critical of reactive tactics. They just don't work very well, when you have to try to turn so many people.

The goal, IMO, should be to get to a place where we don't have to babysit our own people, so we can concentrate more on working public opinion. All of your items seem to me as really important in this regard. The only thing I would add to all that would be some effort to look farther down the road and work on issue development before they hit the proverbial fan.

We know another financial crisis is already in the works, thanks to Obama's idiotic, cronyist "reforms" and this is classic battleground for progressives. Also, transparency, justice, corruption and a well planned "we told you so" when Waxman-Markey is finally proven to be the joke it is.

When plunder becomes a way of life for a group of men living together in society, they create for themselves in the course of time a legal system that authorizes it and a moral code that glorifies it.

-- Frederic Bastiat, "The Law", 1850


Just To Clarify (4.00 / 3)
This is a deliberately transitional form of activism I'm writing about.  You're 100% correct that:

The goal, IMO, should be to get to a place where we don't have to babysit our own people, so we can concentrate more on working public opinion.

But we have to start where we are.  Or at least close enough to where we are that it's a doable leap to get there.

Thus, initially I agree that (5) and (6) will be more problematic.  But starting off with the intention of doing the full menu will help create the mindset, and consistency that will give the muscle to make (5) and (6) work.  Every time the cycle repeats, they can be more and more assured that there will be a price to pay for backroom betrayals.

The hope is that they themselves feel bad about those deals, and the pressure will help them stand up and do what they already know is the right thing.  But if not, I'll settle for browbeating them into doing right by us.

"You know what they say -- those of us who fail history... doomed to repeat it in summer school." -- Buffy The Vampire Slayer, Season 6, Episode 3


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Right. It's a good program, really. (4.00 / 3)
Thus far in my reading of the progressive interwebs, this is easily one of the best programmatic approaches to this problem that I've seen. You leave plenty of room for growth within it, which is important politically. You also focus on the operational, which also leaves plenty of room for work around issues. It's a mechanism for having a strategic conversation, IMO.

I keep thinking of how political parties were born in Europe a century ago, most specifically the Social Democratic party and how it would be very useful if Americans could start leaning towards such a collaborative processs and develop an outline like yours (or a reasonable facsimile) into a more comprehensive manifesto of sorts. Perhaps I'm narrow-minded, but without something like that, how can we possibly develop competent leadership?

There has to be something more to organize around, which is why I hesitate to call American Progressivism a "movement." It simply isn't one yet. The fuel is out there, but the catalyst hasn't really been developed yet.

For me, this is a much more fun discussion than whipping "our people" to do what we voted them in for in the first place. Oh and I'm sure most of them do feel bad about those deals.  But that boils down to power politics. If we can truly "get their backs," that won't be such a problem for many of them. But since they are routinely pissed on by leadership, the mediots and WH, it's tough out there.
 

When plunder becomes a way of life for a group of men living together in society, they create for themselves in the course of time a legal system that authorizes it and a moral code that glorifies it.

-- Frederic Bastiat, "The Law", 1850


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I wonder if there is a lack of progressive leadership (0.00 / 0)
Do progressives fail to set a clear agenda because there are no strong leaders who can bring together a "progressive block" to act as a unit?

Maybe the goal of better Democrats shouldn't just be about getting Democrats to vote the "right" way but also about finding Democrats with real political skills.

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current crop of 'leaders' are pathetic. but, (4.00 / 1)
I think the roots of the problem are:

1. the relative affluence of many progressives,
2. how many progressives have been successful.
3. the chicken and egg-ism of being the first fighter.

point 1. in general, lots of progressives come, directly or indirectly, from the professional / managerial classes. They haven't had their teeth kicked in the way those living on less than appx. 50 grand a year in money income have - appx. the bottom 160 million outta appx. 210 million.  The last 3 decades have SUCKED for those living on under 50 grand, especially if there is no one in your family structure to help tide over the rough spots.

(btw ... there a lots and lots of progressives who live on under 50 grand ... YAWN. for the most part, they are NOT hte people who can afford to run for office or hold office. save me your 1 off examples, I did NOT use 'all' anywhere, except this sentence.)

point 2. much of this managerial / professional class has been successful getting SAT scores and AP scores and into the right grad schools and the right jobs and the right neighborhoods - they do NOT rock the boat.

point 3. IF you're a fighter, who is on your side? How much can you do yourself, when everyone else is trying to find bipartisan reasonable republicans to go have a retreat with and go bargain with?

example - I don't think any of the thugs in leadership are reasonable and are worth bargaining with. I think bargaining with them is simple - help me or I'll fuck you forever, PERIOD. I haven't seen any politicians like that from the Democratic Party in hte last 30 years of living in Boston or Seattle.  There are plenty of milquetoasts pining and whining for 1949 and the post WWII consensus, the same milquetoasts who keep getting rolled by school yard bullies like rove, ailes and atewater.

My congressman is a great guy - Jim McDermott. He doesn't know how to beat thsoe fuckers, or, get others to work with him to beat the fuckers. I'm tired of him, and I will do NOTHING for the rest of the pathetic Dim-O-Crats from this state.

We gotta clean house, and get rid of this generation...

born into affluence, tempered by getting their asses kicked incessantly, disciplined to cave cower and lose, proud of winning yet another undeserved election.

time to pass the torch.

FIRST Step is to OUR pathetics,

VOTE Fascist, and I do NOT vote for you.

rmm.


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You'd think with "The Progressive Caucus" supposedly so large... (4.00 / 2)
That we'd see more progress. We really do need to turn it into a stronger and more effective "Progressive Block". It's one thing to say all the right words, but actions speak louder. And yes, we all need to act as well to make them do it.

Yes, Virginia, there are progressives in Nevada.

The Problem Is (4.00 / 2)
They're out their own much more on their own than most of us here in the real world realize.  The countervailing forces are numerous and intense, and the allied forces are still quite divided, narrowly-focused and long accustomed to playing defense.  So the potential represented by sheer numbers is not nearly as strong as it looks on paper.

When you get right down to it, the strategy I've outlined is very much about making those paper numbers real.  Of course, once it gets fully revved up, it could do a whole lot more as well.  But making the paper numbers real would be a big first step.

"You know what they say -- those of us who fail history... doomed to repeat it in summer school." -- Buffy The Vampire Slayer, Season 6, Episode 3


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Six weeks ago (4.00 / 2)
Raul Grijalva addressed (informally) the Progressive Caucus of the Arizona Democratic Party State Committee. The most impressive part of the talk he gave -- apart from the man himself -- was a very candid breakdown of what he thought that he and the Congressional Progressive Congress could accomplish this session, and what they couldn't. I say candid not only because he made no pie-in-the-sky promises, but also because he very patiently explained what we have to do to support progressive action in Washington.

Not surprisingly, what he said sounded an awful lot like what's being said in this thread.


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Damn! (0.00 / 0)
Make that Congressional Progressive Caucus, if you please.

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Great list (4.00 / 1)
This is a great list.

But it seems to me that it assumes that the powers-that-be actually want to pass some sort of legislation and so they are willing to bargain with progressives if progressives put their collective foot down and demand a good bargain. But often, we are trying to create something new and the powers-that-be would be happy to have nothing passed. [This is where the Republicans are, generally.]

It seems to me that to pass new, good programs where there currently are none will require some additional things (which you hint at in point (6)):

(7) We need effective means for building a media frame in which our perspective is clearly presented. For this, we must rely on progressive think tanks and single-issue groups to do background research and prepare well-documented reports about the options and then have progressive media and blogs that can broadcast this information. Right now, it seems that our research and report-writing are sufficient, but our ability to broadcast to large numbers of Americans is very limited. We really need to build up the progressive media structure.

(8) We need to be able to threaten something that the powers-that-be want so they have to bargain with us. Up to this point, we have been pretty successful in targeting and defeating legislators when they block us. But defeating conservative Republicans and conservaDems in conservative districts is still mostly beyond our abilities. We need to be able to organize real electoral threats in districts across the US. And given that we will always be outspent by special interest lobbyists, we probably need to build a Clean Money system of campaign finance so that we have a shot at defeating corporate shills.

Alternatively, we might be able to threaten legislation that the powers-that-be really want/need passed like the Defense bill or expansion of the national debt. If the Progressive Block gets strong enough, maybe it can hold up passage of peripheral bills in exchange for legislation we want.


As I Said Above (4.00 / 1)
This is an interim plan I'm presenting.  And what I'm relying on here, implicitly, is the fact that there really are some crisis-level needs that have to be addressed, and even the PTB realize it.  The calculus is that they'll do something simply because they have to, but will only do a decent job if forced to.

Of course, I agree 100% in the longer run.  The list of crisis-level needs is a long one in terms of malign neglect, but a short one in terms of positive possibilities.  So when it comes to the positive side of things, we definitely need a good deal more.

I'll have more to say in a followup diary that will post at 7 PM EST.

"You know what they say -- those of us who fail history... doomed to repeat it in summer school." -- Buffy The Vampire Slayer, Season 6, Episode 3


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7) 8) 9) ... (4.00 / 4)
7) We need verbal pitbulls, in the mold of George Galloway, who will not be afraid of speaking truth to power, including the power/decisions/statements of the President.

Such pitbulls would do better to err on the side of brusqueness, even though restrained by their unending wariness to not overstep the line that demarcates civil discourse from it's opposite. Unfortunately, I've seen both Kucinich and Feingold pull their punches when describing some of Obama's bonehead or immoral decisions. And they're not as dynamic and, well, fear-inspiring as George Galloway, to begin with. (I mean, even if they didn't pull their punches, nobody would mistake them for a George Galloway.)

8) We need some sort of regular principle-reinforcing debate and criticism, with recurring personalities (especially including Congress critters that will be members of the progressive bloc) that we can see. Because of the corruption of the MSM, this will have to be propagated over the internet, primarily. This will be a cross (or combination) between something like the President's weekly radio address and the Sunday morning talk shows and provide teaching segments. Repetition works, and reminding people, via compelling video presentations with good production values, of what (e.g.) health care in the US could be like (by showing them what health care in other advanced countries is like), will create some staying power in the mindspace of the American public.  (Think of Frontline's excellent "Sick Around the World" - ooh, I see you mentioned a book version in a subsequent diary. Synchronicity or parallel mental evolution?).

Such a program shouldn't be a DemocracyNow clone, either. Some showmanship and pizazz is required - I would trust George Galloway's and Michael Moore's instincts on striking the right balance between seriousness and entertainment. (Personally, I would even go a little in the direction of Huffington Post/Bill Maher - get some celebrities on, from time to time, that are properly informed about specific issues, and passionate about fighting for them. Celebrities are no wiser than you or I, but if they couldn't draw a crowd, they wouldn't be called celebrities, now, would they?)

Regular exposure of Congress critters who are actually doing the right thing, to an appreciative and ever-growing viewership over the internet, will do wonders for their chances for re-election when they need to solicit funds and volunteers from the masses. From their end, it will also facilitate positive feedback from the public, and from our end, it will help convince us that we have people who actually represent us, in Congress. The common element here to to create a sense of solidarity and community, extending from us little people up to those in positions of power. Isolation, as Paul has suggested in a comment, is not our friend.

A very desirable side benefit of a high level media which features progressives instead of so-called moderates, is that  considerable success will help decay the main stream media to the point of virtual irrelevance. Like the flu, the MSM will never go away, but we can hope for reasonably effective vaccines.

9) Outreach to young people, where we should frankly admit that the older generations have failed them, and that they will be bearing the brunt of our failures. We need to impress upon them the need for political involvement, and to make sure that they understand that the key gatekeepers of political power are the elected representatives. "Feel good and accomplish next to nothing" activism is a luxury we can't afford. So, we need to challenge them to start thinking, early, of providing leaders in the form of elected officials - Congress and the Presidency, primarily. Part of the outreach to young people should consist of teaching them just how corrupted US politics has been.

Young people in college towns would be particularly good to target to take over their local governments, thus getting a taste of the responsible exercize of power, and building their resume for a later entrance into national politics. Look at what happened in New Brunswick, NJ, where "a coalition of moderate, progressive, and revolutionary democrats inspired by Obama's campaign, shocked the political establishment in New Jersey's recent primary election winning twenty-five out of fifty-six Democratic Party committee seats against New Brunswick's entrenched Daleyesque political machine." (See Progressives and Revolutionaries Win 25 Seats in Local Democratic Party )

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A Lot of Good Ideas There (4.00 / 1)
Galloway is definitely a great model, and without equal here in the US.  Sanders gets there on occasion, tho.

I definitely agree that we need to constantly be pushing the media boundaries to create new forums, new ways of reaching people.

It would sure be great to have our own alternative Sunday shows.  One on foreign policy, one on domestic policy and one on culture sounds like a nice spread to being with, don't you think?

get some celebrities on, from time to time, that are properly informed about specific issues, and passionate about fighting for them. Celebrities are no wiser than you or I, but if they couldn't draw a crowd, they wouldn't be called celebrities, now, would they?)

It used to piss me off, how Politically Incorrect routinely pitted a whole parade of conservative activists against Hollywood celebrities, as if there were no progressive activists.  But, man, when one of those celebrities really stepped up, it was a wonder to behold.  Alexandra Paul was a real revelation, let me tell you.  That lady could take on Sarah Palin in her sleep with both hands tied behind her back, while trouncing Newt Gingrich and Bill O'Reilly at the same time.

"You know what they say -- those of us who fail history... doomed to repeat it in summer school." -- Buffy The Vampire Slayer, Season 6, Episode 3


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Above all, (4.00 / 1)
what we want and why we want it, in as much detail as the situation requires. I'm not talking about sectarian manifestos, or Trotskyist exegesis -- God knows I had a bellyful of that in a past life. I'm thinking more of the kind of foundation that you work so hard to provide here, Paul, an apologia pro vita nostra, which explains, for example, why we think that a fundamentally restructured global economy has to be the ultimate basis of economic justice, or that the logic of capitalism has to be rethought in terms of sustainability.

I could go on and on, but when Matt or Chris or David go into the trenches for us, we need to make sure that the bullets in their metaphorical guns are all silver.


Manifesto simply means... (4.00 / 2)
... a public declaration of policy and aims. So you repeat yourself! (kidding)

So all that word means in practical American terms is basically what you're saying. But we can't even get there without a framework for organizing, which Paul has so kindly provided for us today. There still has to be that strategic element, without that, we're just following one breeze after another. I think most of the Trotskyists that aren't neo-cons today are dead from old age.

In a perverse sense, we're fortunate in that we have a ton of huge issues that tie together nicely. A national healthcare system speaks to both social and economic justice. Rule of law, more justice. Transparency, more justice and more democracy. And so on.

So we have justice, decency and democracy promotion right there. Oh, liberty too. These are all traditional American themes, so it's not like we're trying to convert anyone to some abstract set of ideas. Indeed, these are also all positive notions, as well, which helps. Indeed, given Obama's success in bullshitting America with these notions, it's a given at this point the court of public opinion is already there to a large extent.

As the economy worsens, the wars drag on and our rights are further whittled away by the turncoat administration, much of the work is being done for us. It's just a matter of getting out in front of all this and leading people to a better place (mentally).

The silver bullets you speak of are all there et potentia(I'm not sure if this is really correct usage of the term but it sounds nice). We just need to build the foundry to make them.  

When plunder becomes a way of life for a group of men living together in society, they create for themselves in the course of time a legal system that authorizes it and a moral code that glorifies it.

-- Frederic Bastiat, "The Law", 1850


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The key word was (0.00 / 0)
sectarian, not manifesto. Just sayin'.... And no, the Trots and the SWP aren't all dead. Somehow they managed to make little ones before they shuffled off -- probably by osmosis or something.

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Ooops! (4.00 / 1)
I think we're a little out of phase metaphorically, William.  I was seriously thinking about writing a diary this weekend with the title "There Are No Silver Bullets (But Lots Of Wooden Stakes)".

I was going to look for a graphic of Mr. Pointy for it.  Ah, here it is:



"You know what they say -- those of us who fail history... doomed to repeat it in summer school." -- Buffy The Vampire Slayer, Season 6, Episode 3

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Beaten Down (4.00 / 1)
The US public has been acting beaten down for several decades now. The standard of living has stagnated for many, various types of economic stress have increased and we have seen elections stolen or gerrymandered in such a way that there is no real electoral choice.

Today's NY Times has an article on the non-functional NYS senate where no one ever loses their seat.

Meanwhile we see democratic protest breaking out all of the world, especially in countries where being in favor of more democracy can be a life-threatening stance. I would guess we have had 20-30 such rebellions over the past several decades.

So, I'm puzzled. Why is the US public so docile? I don't buy stories about the capture of the media by business or the conservatives or whatever. The countries that I'm referring two tend not to have anywhere near the access to opposing views and information that exists in the US. Nevertheless the populace knows who the bad guys are and exactly what they are up to.

Why is there no rioting in the streets?

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The Surest Way To Keep A Man A Slave (4.00 / 3)
is to convince him that he is already free.

"You know what they say -- those of us who fail history... doomed to repeat it in summer school." -- Buffy The Vampire Slayer, Season 6, Episode 3

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But I am (4.00 / 3)
But I am free. There are 15 varieties of toothpaste to chose from. I guess the freedom to shop is all that's required. Marx got it so wrong...

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Americans have too much to lose (0.00 / 0)
The middle class has little incentive to riot in the streets.  Indeed, it is reasonable to say that the middle class is more the natural ally of the upper class than the poor. (See Democracy and Redistribution by Carles Boix for a game theoretical explanation of this.  I might eventually write a diary summarizing some of the conclusions of the book.)  For what you want, you need the middle class to become smaller and/or closer in income level to the poor.

Also, Americans, even at their most repressed, probably have it much better than the oppressed in the countries with the rebellions you cite.

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Yes, And No (0.00 / 0)
If you look at net worth, they really don't have much to lose at all--particularly after the last 18 months.  It's mostly psychic capital.

But psychic capital is nothing to sneeze at.  Just look at all those dirt poor Southern whites who died horrible deaths in the Civil War in defense of a plantation economy that kept them almost as destitute as black slaves.

"You know what they say -- those of us who fail history... doomed to repeat it in summer school." -- Buffy The Vampire Slayer, Season 6, Episode 3


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Where is the Muscle? (4.00 / 2)
How can we expect risk taking from our congressional allies if we are unwilling to take risks ourselves.

I have no problem with any of these suggestions. I have no problem with supporting more progressive candidates in primaries of blue districts or even a conservative democrat over a more conservative republican in red districts. All of that has been fine until now.

What we need to do now is seek and support primary challengers in districts we may end up losing. Is there a potential challenger out there for Ben Nelson in 2012. Can we start looking for one and perhaps even supporting them now. I don't want to take this to the absurd extreme that the right has done, but they have managed to put a bit of fear into their congressional allies.  


2010 Comes First (4.00 / 1)
And I've got Marcy Winograd running against Jane Harman right next door to me.  Chris has Sestak vs. Specter.  I'm sure there are others.  We need to win some of these, learn, grow, and develop more clout and stronger connections with others.  If we do that, 2012 is going to be very interesting indeed.

"You know what they say -- those of us who fail history... doomed to repeat it in summer school." -- Buffy The Vampire Slayer, Season 6, Episode 3

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Folds in the Clutch (4.00 / 1)
Progressive Punch lists scores for Crucial Votes (where the Progressive position lost or won by 10 votes or less) and an overall voting position.  Only lifetime scores are given as the number of crucual votes this session is not enough to provide a reliable score.

Eighteen House members, all Democrats and mostly all Blue Dogs, had a lifetime gap of 20 or more points between the scores.  Few Republicans score over 20 and none had a 20 point gap.

So here are the fair weather friends:

Joe Donnely, IN  -41.16
Brad Ellsworth, IN -39.47
Bill Foster, IL -38.94
Zach Space, OH -38.62
Chris Carney, PA -38.34
Patrick Murphy, PA -32.20
Jason Altmire, PA -29.53
Ron Klein, FL -28.64
Tim Walz, MN -26.84
Dan Boren, OK -25.70
Heath Shuler, NC -23.66
Henry Cuellar, TX -23.22
Ed Perlmutter, CO -22.90
Harry Mitchell, AZ -22.86
Michael Arcuri, NY -22.45
Joe Sestak, PA -21.30
Mike Quiqley, IL -20.94
Jim Costa, CA -20.25

At the least, these guys (and they are all men) deserve special attention on each and every close vote. Donnelly is amazing.  He votes Progressive only 75.62% but in the clutch he scores a piddling 34.62%.  Oh Chris, 4 of the 18 are from PA including several with strong ambitions.  Including Sestak.  The former Admiral needs to show a little leadership to pick up progressive support.


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Good Metric (0.00 / 0)
The thing with Sestak is that he's not Specter.

A low bar, I know.  But reason enough to support him now, even while pushing him to be better.

The others on this list... Well, there really aren't that many Specters.  Vampires and ghouls, sure.  But Specters, not so much.

"You know what they say -- those of us who fail history... doomed to repeat it in summer school." -- Buffy The Vampire Slayer, Season 6, Episode 3


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Are conservatives dems really better than republicans? (0.00 / 0)
One of the names on the above list is Heath Shuler. Here in NC the logic for supporting him was the same as the logic you offer for supporting Sestak. As Chris has pointed out in several recent posts when Democrats have the majority, conservative Dems, particularly if they are committee chairs, are more effective at blocking legislation than are Republicans.

A republican in Spectors' seat could possibly do less damage than a Conservative Dem in the same seat. Furthermore, once blue dogs become incumbents they become much harder to defeat. At this point I would support running progressives even in conservative districts, then we would either get an effective Democrat or a powerless Republican. Seems like a win win to me.


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Good Points (0.00 / 0)
I, too, have always supported running progressives in conservative districts.  Folks forget that Kucinich originally won in a GOP-incumbent district.  Bernie Sanders ran repeatedly in Vermont, registering in single digits before he broke through.  So the right progressive candidate truly can win just about anywhere.

What I'm saying re Sestak is that Specter is a case apart.  He's the quintessence of what's wrong in DC right now.  So even Sestak would be an improvement worth making as he stands right now.  The hope is that he would be more than that.  He has taken a few progressive stands, of necessity as a way of drawing a contrast with Specter.

Clearly, the time to try to change his politics more generally is now, during the period he is most dependent on and most in contact with support from below.  One thing we have to believe in as progressives is that people can change for the better.  Even politicians.  From my youth, Robert Kennedy sure was proof of that.

"You know what they say -- those of us who fail history... doomed to repeat it in summer school." -- Buffy The Vampire Slayer, Season 6, Episode 3


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A unifying principal (4.00 / 2)
Paul,

When you talk about basic standards I think of the unifying stance the right took almost 30 years ago against Taxes. Poppy Bush and his pledge for "No new taxes". And more importantly, Grover Norquist's Pledge against tax increases that his group demanded any Representative, or prospective Representative, sign before they were granted membership to the "Club" and given any support.

I am not suggesting that progressive's oppose tax increases. I am just suggesting that we need a similar pledge with one or two basic standards which the Representatives, or prospective Representative, must pledge to fight for before they receive the assistance of the Progressive blogosphere.

Of course the real rub is what one or two basic standards can we all agree on. It needs to be something long range, something that will capture the public's imagination, and it needs to lay the foundation for progressive governance in the same way that low taxes produces under funded initiatives and all but guarantees ineffective governance and an anti-government backlash. (See California)  

 


I Agree Completely (4.00 / 1)
In fact, I had planned to write about this this weekend, either as part of this diary or another companion one.  But the trajectory of my writing took me the opposite direction, into a more process-oriented and more philosophical space.  So I promise to take this up next weekend.

Meanwhile, I'd appreciate any further thoughts on what it might be.

"You know what they say -- those of us who fail history... doomed to repeat it in summer school." -- Buffy The Vampire Slayer, Season 6, Episode 3


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This is something I often stress (4.00 / 1)
The unifying stance of the Democratic Party has been not wanting to be Republicans, resulting in an ideologically diverse coalition of both voters and politicians and the general sense that Democrats don't really stand for anything.  There's a need for Democrats in general to set priorities, but there's also a need for progressives to set priorities in order to be able to bargain with the non-progressive units of the Democratic Party.  

Identifying these unifying principles means identifying other principles as things that can be compromised on if necessary.  That's something that some people have a problem.  If you identify a handful of things as top priority, they get unhappy if their personal priorities are not at the top of the list.  In my own tactless style, I describe it as determining which constituencies are bus-worthy; that is, which groups can be thrown under the bus for the moment to win higher priorities.  The example I like to give is FDR giving necessary concessions on racial issues in order to win Southern support for the New Deal.

In the past, the unifying progressive principles have been portrayed in the media as opposition to the Religious Right on culture war issues.  I think that has to change.  The Democratic Party should be mainly a progressive-populist alliance built around economic issues, with bones thrown to groups like African-Americans to keep them in the fold, and progressive need to stake out what they bring to the party on that area.

Health care seems like on obvious plank, although I probably wouldn't want to go so far as Canada's NDP, which brought down a center-left government by insisting on a ban on all private health care.  This is something that will be long-range as I envision an incremental struggle from getting the foot in the door with some sort of public option so that people view health care as an entitlement and working toward single-payer by expanding access and coverage a slice at a time in the way that Israel expands with settlements.

Things You Don't Talk About in Polite Company: Religion, Politics, the Occasional Intersection of Both


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I Disagree, As Always (4.00 / 2)
You are in the right ballpark, but playing the wrong game.  The Dems have much more in common when you look at policy positions.  It's the narratives more than anything that fail to unify the party.  Ironically, even a large number of the GOP base agrees with Democratic majority on significant issues--the recent poll on the public option was not a fluke in this regard.

Where the Dems fall down is in carving up the issue space, and your analysis tends to perpetuate that problem, rather than solving it.

Of course, this is much easier to diagnose than to solve.  But getting the diagnosis wrong makes it impossible to solve.

"You know what they say -- those of us who fail history... doomed to repeat it in summer school." -- Buffy The Vampire Slayer, Season 6, Episode 3


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