Sic Semper Tyrannis

by: Daniel De Groot

Wed Jul 01, 2009 at 22:38


Awhile back, Digby wrote she feels the torture debate slipping away.  I'd like to try and put this in context.  This was always going to be tough.  It is a fight worth fighting, but nowhere in the world has the still potent previous ruling order ever rolled over and taken their lumps for the crimes they committed while in power without a massive fight.  While we may make references to Nuremburg, the most important difference there was that the Nuremburg trials were an act of imposing international law on Germany and Japan after conquering them.  This is an attempt to have domestic law enforcement mechanisms go after the leaders of the previous government for their official policy.  In the US, I don't believe such a thing has been done.  Worldwide, it isn't so common either.

Watergate is not an apt comparison either.  Nixon's motivies were clearly about personal advancement.  He wasn't ordering buildings firebombed and journalists murdered to "protect" America, he was cheating in the competitive game of politics.  Further, he acted guilty and had been stupid enough to tape himself.  The war crimes of the Bush Administration exist in a different realm, because they mostly lack a personal benefit motive on the part of the players involved.  They are still all over television brazenly defending what they did and attacking Obama for not continuing all of it.  It is still possible for them to claim all this was done to defend the nation, for the greater good and so on.  Nixon's claims of this sort were not credible.  For whatever reason, time and again personal failings bring down the scandal avalanche in a way that other illegality does not.  No doubt part of this is the pernicious US domestic news media, but not all of it.  People just seem to viscerally loathe bright line personal corruption in a way that makes, say, $90,000 in a freezer a much bigger deal than 90,000 (or 900,000) dead innocent Iraqi civilians.  It's a serious challenge for the long term viability of democracy.

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None of this is "as it should be" in any ideal sense.  I'm just trying to describe how things sit.  The nice theoretical accountability mechanisms in the US Constitution are fine, but actually bringing down very powerful people on the basis of ethical principles, even with bright lines like "the rule of law" has always been very difficult.  The United States is over 200 years old, and has only successfully impeached a single-digit number of officials, and forced only 1 President to resign.  Even Jefferson Davis didn't spend very much time in prison.  This has never worked as designed.

Looking around the world, some have pointed to the recent conviction of former Peruvian President Alberto Fujimori.  It's clearly exceptional in recent world history.  He was chased from office to the point of Peru's Congress rejecting his (faxed) resignation so they could remove him from office themselves (a fate Nixon should have shared).  Despite all the human rights abuses, the precipitate cause of his downfall was a key underling of his being caught on camera bribing members of congress.  His domestic support had utterly (and rapidly) collapsed in a way Bush's never did.  Even so, his case is a hopeful exception to the norm, perhaps there are lessons there which might be applied elsewhere.  

In Bosnia and Herzegovina, a domestic court has been established for prosecuting war crimes that took place during the civil war.  As this OSCE report from 2005 notes though:


Moreover, monitoring has revealed the courts' reluctance to conduct effective prosecutions against defendants who held positions of power during the war and remain influential. Narrow interpretations of the facts and a lack of willingness to conscientiously explore the full circumstances have resulted in a number of
notable not guilty verdicts. Although 2004 saw several guilty verdicts and the imposition of lengthy prison sentences, a significant majority of these convicted defendants were low-ranking military personnel. OSCE monitoring also indicates that cases are processed less effectively and robustly where the defendants are
members of the majority local community and where the prosecution witnesses are from the minority.
(ii)

During the past decade, both France and Italy have wrestled with potential criminality of top officials.  Both managed to obtain legal immunity.  Chirac's supposedly ended when he left office, but he has not been charged as yet.  Berlusconi, incredibly, is back as Prime Minister of Italy and has passed a second immunity bill for himself.  

Consider Northern Ireland.  British troops killed 13 people in the Bloody Sunday massacre (yes, the one U2 sings about), and as of today, no one has been prosecuted, and only the second inquiry into the event has yet to release their report.  This is about events that took place in a liberal western democracy in 1972.  Similarly, no one has been prosecuted for ordering the "Shoot to kill" policy that was reputedly followed by RUC and SAS forces in Northern Ireland.  These weren't "war crimes" per se, but they were murders by state officials acting in an official capacity.  

The past couple years have seen the governments of Canada and Australia apologize to their indiginous populations for crimes committed by the european dominant governments toward them.  It is highly unlikely either country (or the US) will ever prosecute anyone for the various atrocities perpetrated on the aboriginals.  Most of the perpetrators are dead anyway.

The US Senate just got around to apologizing for slavery.  Need I go on?  

Simply, nation-states are generally crummy at prosecuting themselves for systemic widespread criminality.  In fact, this as all the more reason to need a powerful and active International Criminal Court.  Self-enforcement is clearly not working.

No, if liberals prevail, and senior members of the Bush administration are investigated and prosecuted for war crimes by US authorities, that will be a remarkable feat of progress.  It will be historic and noteworthy.  Not doing so will just be the status quo, and not just in the US..  It will not spell the abject failure of the Obama Presidency, except perhaps its failure to succeed beyond the ken of dozens of other world governments put in similar situations after periods of madness.  

But keep pressing.  Lots of seemingly unwinnable fights were in fact won, for the betterment of all.  Slavery was legal and normal almost everywhere not so long ago, until ethical people started to realize it was wrong, and a great evil.  How difficult that must have seemed to the first people who began to organize against it.  A break through would be splendid, but despair isn't the right reaction to failure on this front.  After all, Henry Kissinger is still a free man, it's not even the first time in living memory that senior officials in an administration committed outright war crimes and didn't face any consequences for it.  Hopefully, this time it will change.


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Thanks for this post Daniel (4.00 / 2)
I suppose Digby's dismay is how the status quo generally works (i.e. "good people do nothing").

What is remarkable about the Fujimori case in Peru (I lived there for three years) is that he maintains a very high personal approval rating, to the point where his daughter is considered one of the front-runners for the 2011 election there.  This has direct relevance to the American case, as prosecution in Peru only required acknowledgment that:
1) Fujimori was clearly no innocent
2) There is something morally wrong about human rights abuses

If we can keep pushing the angle on #1 and avoid giving the Bush era a complete whitewash ("The Reagan Special"), then I think Americans will be MORE inclined to accept #2 as well...


Probably Every Single U.S. President (4.00 / 2)
of the 20th Century, not just Bush II, could be prosecuted for war crimes or crimes against humanity if the Nuremberg principles were taken seriously enough that we judged ourselves by the same standards we routinely apply to our official enemies.

Starting the century off with a U.S. massive genocidal war in the Philippines resulting in the extermination of approximately 1.4 million out of a total of 7 million Filipinos, continuing through numerous military interventions in Latin America during the 20's and 30's, then culminating in the tremendous post-WWII escalation in U.S. power that resulted in such things as the coups against Mossaddeq of Iran, Diem of Vietnam, etc.

Need we mention the entire Vietnam war, which constituted a massive continuing war crime --- in the terms of the Nuremberg judges the "supreme international crime" -- a "war of aggression?"  

Just saying these simple historical facts brings howls of outrage from virtually every mainstream historian or pundit.

Why?

Because it violates the "duty of loyalty." Even if it can all be proven true, it smacks of disloyalty to America to say it. And if a foreigner says these things he's "anti-American."

Nothing has changed. Obama can't really prosecute all the war-criminals, starting with Dick Cheney, because all official D.C., the Congress, the media and most people can't possibly view the actions of this country the way we judge those of official enemies.

We have no problems judging the criminals who ordered the Tiananmen Square massacre, but they are enemies. We've NEVER applied an impartial standard to our own actions.

Instead we assume that our actions are GOOD, because WE are GOOD. A priori. If our actions factually lead to wars of genocide or massive violations of international law and morality, that are universally condemned, this is an unfortunate accident at worst, proof of "anti-American bias" at worst.

So, My Lai can only be an "aberration." The fire-bombing of Dresden is not a war-crime, despite the utter lack of any military justification (known at the time). If 2 million Asians are killed in the Vietnam war (and Cambodia) that's not our fault. Nor are any of the thousands of deaths from invasions of the Dominican Republic in 1965, Grenada in 1983 (condemned by the U.N. General Assembly as a "flagrant violation of International Law"), Panama in 1989 (Operation "Just Cause"), or Iraq today.

The principles of international law and morality simply are not applicable to us. We are exempt by virtue of our power.


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It's impossible to credibly argue with any of this (0.00 / 0)
So I won't. I think that Obama, even if he did care (and I suspect that he doesn't, not deeply at least), realizes that this probably can't be done, and that to try it would be politically dangerous. So I'm pretty sure that he's long since ruled it out, and it'll be just the latest set of massive crimes perpertrated at the highest levels that will get swept under the carpet. That's how it's always been done. Even a president with more moral courage and principle might have reluctantly decided to just drop it. But Obama, I just don't see it.

"Those who stand for nothing fall for anything...Mankind are forever destined to be the dupes of bold & cunning imposture" -- Alexander Hamilton

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What principles of international law? (0.00 / 0)
International law is and always has been a gentleman's agreement, relying mainly on the honor of the gentleman involved and whether or not another gentleman is holding a gun to your head.

People should just give up on the idea of international law as a binding legal code unless you also establish a coercive military force (or, sometimes, guaranteed economic reprisals) to bring countries in line with it.

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well (4.00 / 2)
America has certainly demonstrated it is afraid of the ICC, so I think there is more to intl law than you're giving credit, though it's nowhere near what it needs to be.

It's a muddle, but I think on the whole it is getting better.  Some dictators and tyrants are now some of the time facing justice at the Hague.  There's a "there" there.


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exactly (4.00 / 1)
just ask Slobodan Miloshevich or Charles Taylor if international law is just a "gentleman's agreement." (Although I guess it would hard to ask Miloshevich since he died during his trial.)

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Thank you for filling today's Howard Zinn quota (0.00 / 0)
Nobody applies an impartial standard to their own actions: it's not possible for practice neutral self-observation.

However, self-flagellation is still within our reach, as you point out. I can't agree with your pessimistic conclusion though.

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If Obama doesn't want this to happen (4.00 / 1)
Then it will not happen. And he shows no signs of wanting it to happen. Not merely because it would, undoubtedly, get in the way of his agenda (never mind that the restoration of justice is supposed to be a part of that agenda, of which this would be an obvious and inescapable core component), but because it would create a lot of enemies for him that would hurt his legacy, and create all sorts of unforseen blowback.

Sure, there might be some low to mid-level officials eventually indicted, maybe even someone high-level. But it will be a partial implementation of justice, at best, meant to throw a bone to progressives and burnish his reputation as a defender of the constitution. The political and personal downside far outweighs the moral and ethical upside for the very people who will determine whether this happens. And I seriously doubt if they're thinking along the lines of how if this isn't done, it'll come back to haunt us someday, by sanctioning even worse crimes (if you can imagine such). Politicians rarely think that long-term.

Obama is clearly shaping up to be the president of big words and small actions. It's who he is, hypercautious to the core (you have to actually care to be considered a coward). He doesn't do big risk or bold action. The stim bill and FISA were the template for everything that's to come. If we're really lucky, we'll get one or two big accomplishments from him, most likely health care and a green economy (neither trivial, of course). But I just don't see this ever happening, because there's nothing in it for him for a lot of political capital and risk. And I don't sense that he even cares that much. He is a political realist, not an idealist.

Would that I will be proven dead wrong.

"Those who stand for nothing fall for anything...Mankind are forever destined to be the dupes of bold & cunning imposture" -- Alexander Hamilton


Obama doesn't see this as his job (4.00 / 1)
Which isn't necessarily a bad thing.  This can really happen through two avenues, the Justice Department and Congress.

I interpret Obama as someone who will be relatively hands-off.  I suspect that Obama favors the notion of an independent Justice Department with minimal interference from the White House, the opposite of Bush's style.  So, if you want to see the Justice Department do things, then the person you need to lobby is Eric Holder.  If he really wants to pursue prosecutions, then I don't believe Obama will stand in the way.

The other avenue is through Congress actually using its powers of oversight.  Obama seems to be leaving open the door for Congress to reassert its power relative to the executive.  I actually favor Obama sitting back and waiting for Congress to do its job, because if this comes from Obama, then the political culture in Congress that allowed Bush to do so much wrong doesn't change and I am more interested in seeing long-term shifts in how the system works than the instant gratification of seeing Bush in chains and I am willing to gamble that nothing gets done in order to maximize the probability of what I consider to be significant change.

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Even more (0.00 / 0)
I am not favorably impressed with Geithner or Holder.  If You are correct, even more pressure needs to be laid at Obama's door step. He appointed these people and he chooses to let them go without proper supervision.  That means that they are his fault.

Fix it or force them out and replace them with better people.


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No personal gain involved? (4.00 / 1)
I agree with most of what you're saying here but have to point out that there's ample evidence that Bush-Cheney had plenty of personal advantage to gain by invading Iraq. In fact, one of the administration's primary (but well hidden) rationales for the Iraq invasion was for their oil tycoon friends to gain market share of Middle Eastern oil:
"Two years before the invasion of Iraq, oil executives and foreign policy advisers told the Bush administration that the United States would remain 'a prisoner of its energy dilemma' as long as Saddam Hussein was in power.
That April 2001 report, "Strategic Policy Challenges for the 21st Century," was prepared by the James A. Baker Institute for Public Policy and the U.S. Council on Foreign Relations at the request of then-Vice President Dick Cheney."

It's not at all hard to connect the dots from Cheney's secret Energy Task Force documents, to the involvement of Haliburton-KBR in mapping the Iraqi oil fields before the war started, to the decision to guard the Iraq Oil Ministry headquarters while the rest of Baghdad was being looted.
"Despite the Bush administration's denials about oil as a motivation for war, the Bush administration's focus on Iraqi oil was firmly set."

HT: Juan Cole

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