Magster: "Love of Country Means Love of Fellow Americans and Giving Them a Hand Up"

by: Paul Rosenberg

Sat Jul 04, 2009 at 16:00


This is the first of several diaries highlighting comments that struck a chord about the meaning of progressive patriotism.

Magster's comment:

I've always thought these youtube clips

showed the upside of patriotism -- love of country means love of fellow Americans and giving them a hand up.

The first youtube clip [embedded above] is the crowd at Fenway helping a disabled young men through the anthem when he got flustered.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v...

And the other clip is Maurice Cheeks helping a young gal get through the anthem at an NBA game when she was screwed up and was about to give up singing.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v...

What say you?

Paul Rosenberg :: Magster: "Love of Country Means Love of Fellow Americans and Giving Them a Hand Up"

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I Choked Up While Watching This (4.00 / 2)
Which made it a no-brainer to feature this one first.  But even while this video captures a remarkable moment, I couldn't help but think how much more common it is simply that a person like this would be asked to sing the national anthem in the first place.  A generation ago, that would not have been the case.  Now, this sort of inclusion is routinely accepted.

And it's that broader spirit of inclusion that made the crowd's spontaneous reaction almost inevitable... but no less moving, nonetheless.

"You know what they say -- those of us who fail history... doomed to repeat it in summer school." -- Buffy The Vampire Slayer, Season 6, Episode 3


As a Red Sox fan... (4.00 / 1)
I've gotta say, that really made my day.

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absolutely agreed! (0.00 / 0)
classy move en masse by those red sox fans

John McCain is dishonest

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Mo Cheeks and the girl brought a tear to my eye. (4.00 / 1)
For those too lazy to click:



"For those too lazy to click" (4.00 / 2)
But I still had to click the "play" button! What gives?  

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Well, You Know How They Say "Freedom Isn't Free" (4.00 / 2)
Now does that "click" for you?

"You know what they say -- those of us who fail history... doomed to repeat it in summer school." -- Buffy The Vampire Slayer, Season 6, Episode 3

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I love these clips! (0.00 / 0)
But I'm not sure about your phrase "progressive patriotism".  The very word "patriotism" is loaded enough as it is.  Why add on a layer of politics?

As a movement, American conservatism is beyond the pale. But at the same time, many Americans who call themselves conservatives are fine, intelligent people.  Why push them further toward the dark side by suggesting that "progressives" possess the patriotic truth?  

Shouldn't we instead be encouraging these folks either to join us, or -- perhaps better -- to start making "conservatism" a philosophy worth considering again?


In A Word, NO! (4.00 / 1)
That's what we've always been told we should do.  It's supposed to be the open-minded, tolerant, progressive way.  But it's, you know, a lie!

And haven't we had enough of lies already?

The majority of liberals/progressives fought for American freedom. The majority of conservatives fought against it.  The majority of liberals/progressives fought to abolish slavery.  The majority of conservatives fought against it.  The majority of liberals/progressives fought for women's rights--from the right to vote to full equality across the board. The majority of conservatives fought against it.

The same pattern repeats over and over again throughout our history.  Ours is the philosophy of equality--of liberty and justice for all, theirs is the philosophy of special privilege--of "liberty" and "justice" as the property of the chosen few.  Ours is the philosophy of inclusion, and theirs is the philosophy of exclusion.  Therefore, it is not we who are excluding them from American patriotism.  It is they who are excluding themselves.  We just need to be honest, and clear about it.  And in doing so, in making thing clear, we actually doing them a favor.  Making it possible for them to choose the American way, and no longer be deceived.

And for those who don't want to change?  Well, conservatives are always telling us how wimpy we are, and how tough they are.  Well, good.  If they're so tough, they can handle the truth.  Our philosophy is what this country was founded on, and where its best and highest values come from.  Theirs is not.

Of course they are welcome to change their philosophy at any time. I am not condemning them as people.  I am just telling them that their philosophy is fundamentally at odds with the highest ideals of what our nation stands for.

Am I supposed to lie to spare their feelings?  Well, how many conservatives think that people should do that?  

"You know what they say -- those of us who fail history... doomed to repeat it in summer school." -- Buffy The Vampire Slayer, Season 6, Episode 3


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Very well stated (4.00 / 1)
the whole thing, but in summary:
The majority of liberals/progressives fought for American freedom. The majority of conservatives fought against it.

this is exactly why I got so mad that we (liberals, progressives) allowed the corporate media to paint last year's big fight against continued erosion of the FISA laws as purely a "liberal/lefty" agenda item. We've got to start doing a better job of fighting to positions these issues as "Constitutional" values, as core "American" values.

To illustrate how deeply ingrained this twisted conventional wisdom is about what's "patriotic" and what's not, recently XM/SIRIUS radio renamed their liberal and conservative talk stations from "America Left" and "America Right " to "SIRIUS Left" and "SIRIUS Patriot". Need I say more?


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I questioned the phrase "progressive patriotism" (0.00 / 0)
And I still do. It's unhelpful and dangerous to suggest that progressives (or anyone else) -- can or should define "patriotism."

And what purpose is served? Indeed, many self-defined "conservatives" were among those in the compassionate crowds depicted above.



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So? Many Conservatives Believe In Liberal Values (0.00 / 0)
This isn't news.  I've been writing about it for years.

It's time they learned where ideas like "freedom of speech", "freedom of religion" and the "right to vote" come from.

In fact, when it comes right down to it, Jesus was a liberal, and it's time they learned that, too.

"You know what they say -- those of us who fail history... doomed to repeat it in summer school." -- Buffy The Vampire Slayer, Season 6, Episode 3


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Conservatives as "They" (0.00 / 0)
I was trying to draw a tactical distinction between movement conservatives and persuadable self- defined conservatives.

Believe me, there's nothing I like to do more than rant and rave about American wingnuts.  I hate them.  I rip them daily on my fabulous blog.

http://partisandawn.wordpress....

I just don't want to get into a battle with them over the meaning of patriotism.


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Why Not? (4.00 / 1)
I just don't want to get into a battle with them over the meaning of patriotism.

That's precisely what I want to do.

"You know what they say -- those of us who fail history... doomed to repeat it in summer school." -- Buffy The Vampire Slayer, Season 6, Episode 3


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RayGun's Casket in Capitol. Battle Hymn Of The (0.00 / 0)
Republic playing.

I'll probably get zeroed for this, BUT

everytime 1 of those fascists goes off to the hell he's earned and he deserves, I'm happy.

To see RayGun's casket coming into the Capitol to the Battle Hymn of The Republic - What a BIG F.U. to all the bigots, rascists and ignoramuses who voted for and enabled RayGun's Reign of Terror.

rmm.  

It is too full o' the milk of human kindness To catch the nearest way


I just checked the blog after being away for the 4th (4.00 / 1)
I'm glad the videos had the same effect on many here.

I hope everyone had a Happy 4th!

John McCain won't insure children


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