Misreading History While Trying To Make It--Achievement Narratives And Obama's Limitations

by: Paul Rosenberg

Sun Jul 12, 2009 at 19:15


Natasha linked to this diary by Clio Bluestocking in her Tuesday "Morning No" diary:

Abolition as a Self-Help Movement

I've been grading for the past two days. As Babu used to say, "I wept for the future of America, then I made pie." The grades didn't make me weep. Some did well, others did not. The usual. Their answers about ending slavery -- which are typical of answers that I have graded over the past several years -- made me weep.

For example, in the past few years, I have read essays that refer to the conditions of slavery as a "lifestyle." I have read essays framing the strengths and weaknesses of the different methods of anti-slavery societies as the successes or failures of the members' determination, perseverance, and work ethic. I have read essays that say the failure of the abolitionists -- and they do seem to think that the abolitionist movement failed -- was the result of a failure to "work with" the white people, presumably the slaveholders. I've read essays that described pro-slavery arguments as "politically incorrect." I've read essays that say the mission of the abolition movement was to inspire the slaves to have better lives. I have read reports on emancipation as the slaves' reward for hard work.

In my more fatigued moments, I have to restrain myself from outright snark. In my more inquisitive moments, I wonder how they could have come up with these ideas. Why are they describing slavery and abolition this way? The book doesn't describe either in these terms, so where are they getting this language? Then, I became painfully aware that my students, as part of the public at large, have been indoctrinated into a culture of "achievement" and "self-help" to the point that that they do not have the language to describe relationships of power or the fight for justice. I'm seeing the students attempt to evaluate abolitionist tactics -- the ways that a handful of people attempted to eradicate a system of human property -- using a wholly inadequate narrative.

This passage--along with the rest of the diary--resonated with me on a number of levels, and I want to try and tease out just a few of them.  Most directly, however, I was struck by the sense that Clio's students seem to misread the Abolitionist movement in much the same way that Obama's core constituency misreads the nature of politics in general.

After all, what is a more perfect embodiment of "a culture of 'achievement' and 'self-help' than a candidate-centered "movement" united by the slogan "Yes We Can"?

Paul Rosenberg :: Misreading History While Trying To Make It--Achievement Narratives And Obama's Limitations
Ckio goes on to write:

In this narrative, if you work hard enough, if you believe enough in yourself, if you persevere, then you will succeed and have a better life. From students' introductory assignments -- the ones that I have them complete at the beginning of online classes to get an idea of who these faceless names are -- this is the narrative that gets them through their lives. Many use the very same terms about their desire to make good grades in school in order to have a better life as they do to describe the slaves' desire to be free or the abolitionists' desire to end the institution of slavery. They attempt to describe the failures of the abolitionist movement as the personal failures of individuals and using the same buzzwords that we hear in the sound-bite attacks of politicians who aren't getting their way.

I don't mind them finding inspiration in the lives of historical figures like Frederick Douglass or Harriet Tubman because that is their own business; but I doubt that either Douglass or Tubman would see the problems facing slaves or abolitionists as personal weaknesses or a poor work ethic. They both spoke of systems of power. They spoke of injustice that prevented hard-working, determined, persevering people from being anything more than chattel. They intended to end that injustice by attacking the system, slavery. Examining the hows and whys of that is part of the purpose of studying history.

One thing that I see in this is my oft-referred to dividing line between Robert Keegan's Level 3 and Level 4 of cognitive development.  At Level 3, one's self is defined in terms of the roles and relationships of the surrounding society.  It is impossible to really question these, although they may feel very uncomfortable, because one is actually embedded in them, and can't separate oneself enough to gain a critical perspective on them.

This is the typical level of adult functioning in a traditional, pre-modern society.  And it's a natural facet of this condition that one cannot clearly see, much less critique and struggle against the power systems operating through the society that in turn defines the very nature of oneself.  Of course, achievement narratives are the bread and butter of this level of consciousness.  After all, that's how the society reproduces itself, by teaching its members how to successfully carry out their roles.

What began to change all this several centuries ago, was that societies became too successful.  They were becoming too dynamic, and there arose a need for people to take on new tasks at a level of volume that had never been seen before.  There had always been some individuals who went beyond Level 3 consciousness, but they had to live "in the world, but not of the world" so to speak.  They could have a different level of perception about things, but could do very little to alter things around them to accord with their insights about how they could be better arranged.

Once the countries of Early Modern Europe began experience a certain pace of change, this situation began to change.  It was no longer enough for boys to simply follow the line of work of their fathers.  New roles were needed, or more commonly far more of certain roles were needed than had ever been needed before, so there was a need for employment to shift.  This actually started with improvements in agriculture that made farming much more productive, this making it possible for more people to live in villages and towns, engaged in manufacturing, repair and commerce.  But the pace of change picked up considerably as growth shifted to larger towns and cities, and emerging national capitals.

The framework of British rights is one of the things to come out of this process.  Original such rights were tightly tied to a given station in life, and were not what we might think of as rights at all, but rather privileges of rank or station.  But as the pace of change picked up, and one might well move from one station in life to another, rights started to become detached and more generalized.  With more rapid change, and more complex life choices in general, there was increased pressure pushing people toward developing Level 4 consciousness, which made it relatively easy to deal with problems that were virtually insoluble with a Level 3 consciousness.

Level 3 consciousness was still far more commonplace, of course, even in the more complex and fast-paced realms of the most advanced countries, but there was enough Level 4 consciousness that it began to show in philosophy, art and literature.  This is when modern liberalism began to emerge.  And this is where we begin to get a much wider range of writings about political power, not just the power of specific larger-then-life individuals.

Thus, at one level, what Clio is writing about is how many of her students are, in effect, living in a state of pre-modern consciousness--a state that's quite compatible with traditional conservatism, and which has a very hard time making sense of modern liberalism, with its core foundation in individual autonomy--not merely a choice of options, but a critical independence that allows for consciously choosing between alternatives that are not simple given to one, but that are carved out by the individual making choices for themselves.

This does not mean that only liberals attain Level 4 consciousness, or that Level 4 consciousness automatically makes one a liberal.  But there is a strong elective affinity between the two.  For one thing, liberalism has been around long enough that it has greatly reshaped our world, so that much of what shapes people with Level 3 consciousness may be quite liberal in content, even if the formal relation is not.  One may, for example, accept racial diversity and inter-racial respect as "traditional", whereas the opposite would have been the case in previous eras.

This, I think, helps clarify the nature of Obama and the kind of mass support he has inspired.  It tends to be liberal in content--accepting, even celebrating diversity--but consrvative in form, accepting, rather than challenging established social definitions, including those that have been intentionally promoted by conservative activists engaged in hegemonic struggle, which is a deliberate form of political activity that aims alter the definitions of things, so that one cannot think otherwise than to be in agreement.  In short, hegemonic struggle is the intentional shaping of what shapes Level 3 consciousness.  And naturally, one cannot engage with, and counter such struggle, so long as one thinks only in terms of Level 3 consciousness, of which achievement narratives are such a central part.


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Citizens of Diaspar, be warned (4.00 / 1)
The Rosenberg Manifesto is false.

Intra mures, citizens, Obama is an inspired leader. Extra mures is an anti-social fantasy. No such place exists.


what? (0.00 / 0)
     Please explain "Intra mures" and "Extra mures", in plain English.

Luke 12:48 "to whom much is given, of him shall much be required". Would Jesus want progressive taxation, or regressive taxation?

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You again (0.00 / 0)
The plain English guy. Didn't we tangle once before? Not that it matters, I guess. Just ignore me. It'll be better for your blood pressure, and I'll be spared the exegesis.


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The Robert Keegan level stuff... (0.00 / 0)
... needs a cite. Who is Keegan, and why take his schematic seriously?

I am in earnest -- I will not equivocate -- I will not excuse -- I will not retreat a single inch -- AND I WILL BE HEARD.  

Keegan (0.00 / 0)
Harvard psychologist.

Direct lineage:

    Piaget =>
    Kohlberg =>
    Kegan.

Two principle books explaining his theory: The Evolving Self: Problem and Process in Human Development and In Over Our Heads: The Mental Demands of Modern Life

I've written about him dozens of times going back at least to 2005 or so.  Most notably, here, "The Political Duality Of Rep and Dem".

Basic table: here.

His schema is a deliberate integration of previous work, not only encompassing Piaget and Kolberg, but Maslow, Erickson and others. It also lines up well with other schemas he did not intentionally try to integrate.  And it has an elegant logic to it: the context/background/subject of one level becomes the content/foreground/object of the next.

"You know what they say -- those of us who fail history... doomed to repeat it in summer school." -- Buffy The Vampire Slayer, Season 6, Episode 3


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Thanks! (0.00 / 0)
n/t

I am in earnest -- I will not equivocate -- I will not excuse -- I will not retreat a single inch -- AND I WILL BE HEARD.  

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Offhand Thought (4.00 / 2)
which I'm sure you've talked about.

There is a danger of people in the "higher" levels looking down on and becoming unable to either respect or work together with people working in the "lower" levels that seems destructive of the capacity to develop effective collective action.  

Have you talked about how the divergence across these levels can create a destructive fragmentation?

And might this be linked to the privilege often held by those at the "higher" levels?

--Aaron Schutz (Core Dilemmas of Community Organizing)


Actually (4.00 / 2)
Most of this level stuff is pretty invisble to ordinary folks.  The problems are more along the lines of misunderstanding one another and not having the foggiest idea why.  A lot of this takes place between intimates--his vignette about parents, teens and curfews is particularly illuminating, or so I thought.

Of course, there is some of what you're pointing to, but it's generally more organized around other factors that tend to be associated with different levels, such as social isolation vs. metropolitanism, anti-intellectualism vs. scorn toward the "ignorant masses", etc.

"You know what they say -- those of us who fail history... doomed to repeat it in summer school." -- Buffy The Vampire Slayer, Season 6, Episode 3


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INvisible, but not inoperative (4.00 / 2)
Well, there's also alienation. A friend of mine, back in my working days, complained over a beer: Why must I agree to be schizophrenic just to work in that effing place? (He knew the answer, of course, as we all do.) I said something soothing, and ordered another round.

After a lifetime of nodding briefly and creeping away when people complain about Blacks and Mexicans, or allow as how we oughta turn that Iran place into a radioactive parking lot, that'd show those ungrateful ragheads, or complain that the gummint takes all their money and wastes it on lazy people, I felt his pain. It isn't any better, either, when Obama tells me that I talk down to sincere people of faith, or that Africans need to get hold of themselves, or that we can't screw with a sixth of our GDP just to make sure that people get affordable health care.

Of course, alienation isn't the worst of it. What doesn't get done because it's unthinkable has real consequences, nasty ones. When measured against the butchery in Afghanistan, for exxample, our own middle-class struggles to avoid solipsism or drink are scarcely worth mentioning.  


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Well, Yes (4.00 / 2)
Illuminating those differences has the potential to be very powerful in freeing us from a great deal of bullshit.

But I fear it may well be a case of the "The truth will make you free, but first is will make madder than a hornet."

So, how to handle the hornets, that is the question. Slings and arrows of outrageous fortune got nothin' on hornets.

"You know what they say -- those of us who fail history... doomed to repeat it in summer school." -- Buffy The Vampire Slayer, Season 6, Episode 3


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Hornet herding (4.00 / 1)
I'm used to being mad. Angry mad, crazy mad -- sometimes it's hard to tell the difference. Perseverance is the mantram I use when doing politics. Let the emotion have its way, but put it to work whenever and wherever you can.

When I'm not engaged, I meditate on Brautigan's Machines of Loving Grace, or Sartre's République du Silence, or even Matisse's Luxe, Calme, et Volupté.

Love isn't really all you need, not in this kalpa, anyway, but it's a close approximation of the goal.


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This is tangential to the topic of your diary (4.00 / 3)
I think.  But I do think that the distinction between the levels and how they think does lead to some significant tensions between particular groups which "tend" (and I say that with some discomfort) or at least "seem" to opposing groups to be on the "wrong" level.  

I particularly wonder, relating to my ongoing engagement with the limits of middle-class professionals, if this isn't part of the problem with speaking across classes.  Certainly this seems implied in the work about these tensions--although I'd need to go back and look closer at the lit on this.  

The middle-class professional group is so critical because they are a key source of activists and organizers.  Not necessarily the organic intellectuals for everyone, but a key component of any social change nonetheless.  Anything that creates significant barriers to their ability to see "others" as equal "thinkers" seems like a problem (and, of course, the issues run the other way).

So perhaps these differences are not so invisible.  Instead it may be part of why the working class and the middle-class each see each other as stupid.  The working-class seeing the middle-class as the kind of people who have to hire someone to come in and change a light bulb.  And middle-class professionals seeing the working=class as dumb as stumps (and some recent studies indicate that there is quite a lot of anti-working-class prejudice among professionals).  And these labels of "dumb" may relate in crucial ways to Keegan's categories.

How much?  

--Aaron Schutz (Core Dilemmas of Community Organizing)


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I Don't Disagree (4.00 / 2)
But I do tend to think that it's other factors more incidentally related that are more salient in causing difficulties.

For one thing, the power differences you described in your discussion of social class in your "core dilemmas" series seems like a much bigger barrier.  I have no doubt that if we were able to minimize these other sorts of factors, there would still be significant tensions left.  And I think that the tension between levels is likely to reinforce other tensions.

But I also think that the difference in levels doesn't necessarily map that neatly along class lines.  Kegan's work suggests that it is related to higher education, but plenty of working class folks nowadays have college degrees, and Kegan suggests that it's just as much about the life demands of going to school as it is about the curriculum content--which means there are probably lots of similar situations encountered by working class folks as well.  More research on this definitely needs to be done.  (Did anyone ever call for "less research"?  If so, were they ever heard from again?)

"You know what they say -- those of us who fail history... doomed to repeat it in summer school." -- Buffy The Vampire Slayer, Season 6, Episode 3


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A fandango of hope (4.00 / 1)
(Did anyone ever call for "less research"?  If so, were they ever heard from again?)

GWB, James C. Dobson, Pat Buchanan, the Pope, the lovely Sarah? Please tell me that I didn't mishear you, that the dustbin of history has now encompassed them, and that the lid is firmly sealed.


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Well my series (4.00 / 2)
has looked at why they are different.  And why they have different beliefs.  And these do seem to emerge out of the different material conditions of their lives to a large degree.

But there is also the tendency to disregard the other side as stupid--unable to think like "us" and not really worthy of dialogue.  Of course, a large part of the problem is that they can't really talk to each other given their different core perspectives on the world.  So maybe the Keegan stuff isn't that relevant.  Dunno.  

Anyway, just thinking about it.

--Aaron Schutz (Core Dilemmas of Community Organizing)


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if anyone wants proof (4.00 / 3)
of what you write about the "kind of mass support" Obama has inspired ("liberal in content--accepting, even celebrating diversity--but consrvative in form, accepting, rather than challenging established social definitions"), check out the political narrative being constructed by Christian Fong, a Republican candidate for Iowa governor.

It includes a lot of the same self-actualizing and "empowering" rhetoric we heard from Obama during the primaries, e.g. about the power of hard-working individuals to change our state.

Join the Iowa progressive community at Bleeding Heartland.


Talk About "One Size Fits All" (4.00 / 2)
And you thought that would be baggy extra-large!

Not so much.

"You know what they say -- those of us who fail history... doomed to repeat it in summer school." -- Buffy The Vampire Slayer, Season 6, Episode 3


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Heh... (4.00 / 1)
...even Sarah Palin is trying that rhetoric now...

REID: Voting against us was never part of our arrangement!
SPECTER: I am altering the deal! Pray I don't alter it any further!
REID: This deal keeps getting worse all the time!


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Are some people incapable of moving past level 3? (0.00 / 0)
I say yes.  Not because they've been trained to think that way, but because they are inherently unable to do so because of how their brains work.  Others are in transition and can't be forced to move to level 4 beyond their natural speed.  

Those people either need to be left behind or they need to be integrated by giving them a narrative that fits liberal content to more conservative forms compatible with a level 3 consciousness.  Your choice is basically to be more inclusive or more exclusive.  I'd suggest that Obama has chosen inclusiveness and has decided that those on level 3 need more hand-holding, even if it holds back those on level 4.  Criticism of agitators on the left then becomes a bit like a parent telling the older kids to include their younger siblings/cousins or the unpopular next-door neighbor in their games, however limiting on fun that might be.

Catering to those on level 3 isn't necessarily bad.  Perhaps something like union organizing works best with minds that are fertile ground to the notion that you have a duty to your co-workers in a "circle the wagons" mentality.  Heck, the left could work best as a coalition between a populist working class argument operating on level 3 consciousness and a progressive creative class argument operating on level 4.  The actual configuration isn't important so much as the notion that it is better to have an array of mini-narratives that reach mostly the same stances for different reasons rather than one overriding meta-narrative that tries to explain a grand theory of modern liberalism.

Things You Don't Talk About in Polite Company: Religion, Politics, the Occasional Intersection of Both


I Should Make This Clear (4.00 / 3)
There's nothing inherently more moral about higher levels.  Yes, there's the capacity for better decisions, but there's not necessarily any increase in moral motivations. So one can be more effective in acting morally, but that's not the same thing as being more moral.

I don't think people's capacity for higher levels generally depends on organic factors in their brains, except in cases of clear mental impairment.  One can be quite clever on lower levels, or be somewhat plodding, but function at a higher one.  It's more about the complexity of pattern comprehension than the speed of cognition.  One can even be impaired in communicating, but still have a higher level of comprehension.  We really have to be careful about making generalizations in such matters.  We simply don't know enough.

Now, as to your last two paragraphs, I'm in virtually total agreement with everything you say in the last paragraph.  But I disagree with the one before that, since I believe that Obama's problem is that he is operating at Level 3.  I find it hard to believe he's not capable of operating at Level 4, but there's evidence that people capable of Level 4 thinking sometimes adopt Level-3-type of action patterns.  So this could be the explanation.  In any case, that's a real problem, and it seems to be a big part of what's going on with Obama.

"You know what they say -- those of us who fail history... doomed to repeat it in summer school." -- Buffy The Vampire Slayer, Season 6, Episode 3


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I get the feeling that Obama (4.00 / 2)
while he's clearly in possession of a superior mind, having been an outsider in multiple ways since he was old enough to sense it (e.g. racially, culturally, intellectually), and naturally wanting to fit in and belong and feel like he belonged, decided to partially dumb down his intellect so as to remove at least one of these barriers to fitting in. He continued to cultivate his intellect in private, and among the few people whom he could trust and who operated on his intellectual level. But with most others, he played a part, that of the "smart", but not ostentatiously smart, regular guy, the basketball player, the style-conscious outgoing frat boy type, the cool guy, the politician, etc. And while it might have been an act, it was probably so effective, and he probably played it so often, that he ended up becoming the part, and it's as much a part of him as is the intellectual or policy wonk. So when we see him in "Yes we can!" mode, yes, it's an act, but the sort of act that is effectively the person.

And I think that it's in this sense that he operates on level 3, not because he can't, and doesn't, also operate on level 4, but because level 3 thinking, even if it's a put-on, is part of how he effectively functions. It might sound bizarre, but I've seen it in others, and think that it's not uncommon among really smart people who came from non-elite backgrounds. They want to be a part of a "higher" world, but also don't want to lose touch with the "regular" world. Which is to their credit, but it does come with some drawbacks, namely this splitting in cognitive functioning, which might have originally been adaptive, but which in some ways has become maladaptive, at least when he needs to be operating at level 4, i.e. as president. We don't need no stinking level 3 fish-gutting "jes folks" in the White House, thank you. Perhaps he's afraid that if he does spend more time at level 4, people will like him less. This might not be consciously happening, but I suspect that it is happening.

I think that Obama is basically an intellectually superior person who, realizing just how lonely and frustrating it can be to operate at a high intellectual level, all too often cops out by reverting to an easier and more reassuring intellectual level, where he might not be able to accomplish as much, but where at least he's not as alone and liable to be dislike or misunderstood. It's a cowardly stance, but also an understandable one. But he is president, he is capable of functioning at a very high intellectual level, we are in the midst of various serious crises that would best be served by someone operating at such a level, and for the sake of the country, he really does need to step up to the task and stop being the lonely and misunderstood little boy. He ASKED for the job, and it's his moral duty to do it, at the level that he's capable of doing it, and for which a lot of us voted for him, having traded the experience of a Clinton for the potential of an Obama.

I sense that he's slowly coming to this, but it's taken some time as he gets used to the job and lets its powers, demands and obligations fully sink in. But if he ever decides to just go there, and stay there, it could be a sight to behold. I'm hoping that he does, and that he doesn't end up being the phenom althlete who never quite fulfilled his youthful promise.

"Those who stand for nothing fall for anything...Mankind are forever destined to be the dupes of bold & cunning imposture" -- Alexander Hamilton


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This Sounds Plausible To Me (4.00 / 2)
But I think there's more to it as well.  There's also a go-along-to-get-along mentality that he consciously speaks out against, yet has deeply internalized.   The failure to act on Don't Ask, Don't Tell--even when the vast majority of public opinion has shifted--is a case in point.  That's not something that requires any great act of cognition.

"You know what they say -- those of us who fail history... doomed to repeat it in summer school." -- Buffy The Vampire Slayer, Season 6, Episode 3

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It's really the same thing (4.00 / 1)
This seeming tendency, and really need, to revert to a more amiable and unthreatening form, that is intellectually deficient and morally wanting, just to be better liked and loved. He wants to belong. He wants people to like him, even love him. He doesn't want to be the guy who spoils the party, who makes people uncomfortable. He doesn't want to start fights. He doesn't want to engage in fights. He wants non-confrontational approaches and solutions. He wants to square the circle. He wants everyone to be happy, hold hands and love each others. He wants his parents to be alive and back together, showering him with love. He doesn't want people to say "Hey, look at that guy who thinks he's so smart and is trying to rock the boat--who does he think he is?". So he reverts to a dumbed-down and less threatening form of himself, to avoid that, and avoid confrontations and fights.

And the results show it, half measure solutions to very serious problems that absolutely demand tougher and more comprehensive measures. It reminds me of Clinton, the brilliant politician who kept running away from fights, because he hated fighting, and didn't like upsetting people and making enemies (and yet made so many enemies anyway). Whether it happens on an intellectual, a policy, a political, or even personal level, he tends to do this, because he doesn't want to be excluded or disliked. But that's what strong and effective leaders invariably are, excluded and disliked. Leadership is a very lonely and in many ways unsatisfying job, because you're out there on your own, doing things that people don't like. If you're not willing to do such things, and risk people disliking you, then you're not fit to be a leader. And Obama is still struggling with this apparent need, as I see it.

It's cowardly, and it's weak, and Obama really needs to push through this and become the leader that he's capable of being, and absolutely needs to be. There is no way in hell that he can ever do the things that he needs to do without making enemies, upsetting lots of people, and having one nasty confrontation after another. Nor can he achieve what he needs to achieve with anything less than an intellectual rigorous and honest approach, that leaves behind the easy bromides and platitudes of level 3 thinking. Basically, he needs to be as smart, and tough--and honest--as he's capable of being, to do the job as it needs to be done. I.e. he needs to grow up, move past loved icon, and become the statesman.

Washington, Lincoln and FDR did it. Now it's Obama's turn. He has no choice, if he wants to even begin to approach their level of success. And he clearly wants to.

"Those who stand for nothing fall for anything...Mankind are forever destined to be the dupes of bold & cunning imposture" -- Alexander Hamilton


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IQ (0.00 / 0)
We know that tested IQ can increase due to the environment one is raised.  The most obvious example is that fact that IQ test scores go up 3 points every decade and have for as long as these tests have been around.  (They have to re-normalize them frequently.)  So the average kid today would literally score as gifted 100 years ago and the average kid 100 years ago would score as legally retarded today.

But that said, Kegan levels are clearly related to how well one can think.  Whether you want to call that IQ or not is up for debate, but certainly there is a relationship or overlap.

Personally, I don't think a high percentage of the adult population is higher then level 3.  Perhaps it is possible for the perfect education system to raise that number to a large majority, but I have my doubts there as well.  But if anything, I suspect the numbers are higher today than 100, 150 years ago, based on the IQ scores I mention above.

Fighting for the end of slavery is not represent a higher level then self help.  If anything, it may actually be a lower level for the people directly involved.  Fighting for your own freedom is pretty fundamental.  Fighting for someone else's is a bit more complex, but when it is right in front of you, it requires less abstract reasoning then imagining yourself in a completely different time and place.

While liberalism and the Enlightenment may be the brainchild of high level thinkers and fundamentally at Kegan level 4, I don't for a moment think most people in liberal society -- even most people who call themselves liberal -- conceive of it in quite that manor.

While doing what we can to raise everyone's ability to analyze and think abstractly, raising their Kegan cognitive levels, is something society should pursue, the solution will never be complete.  This means that we also need to know how to wrap liberalism in level 3 and 2 packages.  That is hard, because the wrapping will at a fundamental level will contradict liberalism itself.  But such packaging is still needed, I believe.

This actually leads us to Lakoff's work.  By using the appropriate frames we can get people working in lower cognitive levels to arrive at liberal conclusions.

Personally, I'm often amazed at how well the Enlightenment has held up over time, despite all these issues.  But I also don't think anyone has ever solved this fundamental problem, which leaves all this achievement fairly vulnerable.


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Several Points (4.00 / 1)
I'm not sure how much IQ increases reflect increased intelligence vs. increased modernization.  I tend to think it's more of the later.  I do agree--as does Kegan--that there are more people operating at higher levels now.  Kegan estimates that roughly half of all adults are levels 4 or 5.  Which is a lot by historical standards, but not nearly enough given the complexity of the world that people face.  (Hence the title of his book, "In Over Our Heads".)

Fighting for the end of slavery is not represent a higher level then self help.  If anything, it may actually be a lower level for the people directly involved.  Fighting for your own freedom is pretty fundamental.  Fighting for someone else's is a bit more complex, but when it is right in front of you, it requires less abstract reasoning then imagining yourself in a completely different time and place.

This could be argued re fighting to free yourself, even if you've been taught all your life that "slave" is who you are, and you don't even have a name, other than "boy."  But fighting to end slavery is something more than fighting to free yourself.  An order of magnitude more.  It is, indeed, precisely the same thing as "imagining yourself in a completely different time and place."

The rest of what you say, about the relation between levels and Lakoff I agree with completely, and even think I've said this before.  Ruth Benedict's Patterns of Culture long ago made the case that some traditional cultures are liberal, some quite authoritarian.  So it very clearly can be embedded in the level 3 structure of a society and/or culture.

It's also the case that one would expect more people to readily make the transition to level 4 in a less authoritarian society.  The transition is facilitated by a combination of challenge and support.  Authoritarian societies may have more than their share of challenge, but are woefully lacking in support.

"You know what they say -- those of us who fail history... doomed to repeat it in summer school." -- Buffy The Vampire Slayer, Season 6, Episode 3


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There is really no evidence (0.00 / 0)
of something called "general intelligence" and the tests used to determine this are extremely biased with respect to class, etc.  See Gould's Mismeasure of Man

--Aaron Schutz (Core Dilemmas of Community Organizing)

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Yes, But (4.00 / 1)
What Mark's referring seems orthogonal to this point. You don't have to believe in "G" to see this happening.  All sub-populations show this shift. Which is to say that blacks today score higher on IQ tests than whites before WWII.

The problem with such findings is that it simply defies common sense that the general level of intelligence was so low in the past.  If blacks today are smarter than whites then, then what about blacks then?  Hence, the interpretation that it's about modernity much, much more than intelligence.

"You know what they say -- those of us who fail history... doomed to repeat it in summer school." -- Buffy The Vampire Slayer, Season 6, Episode 3


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I understand where you're coming from (4.00 / 1)
I tend to grade people on a curve, so I judge people for acting to best of their ability within their capacity.  What I suggest, though, is that some people just have an innate greater ability to do math or music and this isn't something that can be fully taught or sculpted by environment.  I think it reasonable to hypothesize a similar variation in cognitive development due to unspecified factors which, if they were fully understood, would you to look at two people and say that one has a higher upside for progression along Kegan's stages.

In a way, I'm disagreeing with the notion of a culture of "achievement" where anyone can do anything if they just put their mind to it.  It could be said that the conservative response is that people don't accomplish as much as they can because they are lazy while the liberal response is that they fail because they are held down.  I choose to believe that egalitarianism is a legal fiction that we embrace rather than an actual fact.

Right now, Obama is a black box whose inner workings remain opaque.  Arguably, he has so much potential to do good precisely because he is a black box, but it's also infuriating because I can come up with several explanations for why he acts the way he does, some good and some bad, and they all seem to fit.  I don't think Obama is some sort of multi-dimensional chess grandmaster, but since I've never actually read Kegan and you presumably have, I have to ask: if Obama were operating on Level 5, what would it look like and would it be as annoying to people on Level 4 as acting on Level 4 is to people on Level 3?

Things You Don't Talk About in Polite Company: Religion, Politics, the Occasional Intersection of Both


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Put This Way I Tend To Agree With You (4.00 / 1)
Earlier, it seemed like you were talking about hard and fast limits.  If you're talking about gradients and degrees of difficulty in developing at different rates of speed, I think that's a far more accurate picture.

BTW, Einstein was slow at math as a kid.  And even as a senior professor, David Hilbert, one of the towering mathematical figures of all time, was known for interrupting presentations by PhD candidates, and saying stuff like, "This is all too complicated and confusing. Isn't there a simpler way to do this?"  These are two different, but related phenomena.  Speed of cognition and depth are two different things, and in some they coincide--quick learning leads to more depth--while in others its the very deliberation that brings greater depth.

"You know what they say -- those of us who fail history... doomed to repeat it in summer school." -- Buffy The Vampire Slayer, Season 6, Episode 3


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secondary orality (0.00 / 0)
"This is the typical level of adult functioning
in a traditional, pre-modern society.  And it's
a natural facet of this condition that one cannot
clearly see, much less critique and struggle
against the power systems operating through the
society that in turn defines the very nature of
oneself."

Good point.

"What began to change all this several centuries
ago, was that societies became too successful.  
They were becoming too dynamic, and there arose
a need for people to take on new tasks at a
level of volume that had never been seen before."

Buy why, after thousands of years of feudalism,
did societies suddenly become so successful?

The answer, I believe, is the printing press
which is often described as the greatest invention
ever. The printing press lead to cheap books,
widespread literacy, and then to the Enlightenment.

http://www.historyguide.org/in...

It is only now, when visual entertainment
has replaced reading as our main source of information
and entertainment that we have become a post-literate
society. Most people know how to read, but read
only minimally.

"When the test was last administered, in 1992, 40 percent
of the nation's college graduates scored at the proficient
level, meaning that they were able to read lengthy, complex
English texts and draw complicated inferences. But on the
2003 test, only 31 percent of the graduates demonstrated
those high-level skills."

http://www.nytimes.com/2005/12...

According to the New Yorker article "Twilight of the Book"

"The scholar Walter J. Ong once speculated that television
and similar media are taking us into an era of "secondary orality,"
akin to the primary orality that existed before the emergence of text."

Does "secondary orality" explain the "dumbing-down of society"?

"Whereas literates can rotate concepts in their minds abstractly,
orals embed their thoughts in stories. According to Ong, the best
way to preserve ideas in the absence of writing is to "think
memorable thoughts," whose zing insures their transmission.
In an oral culture, cliche and stereotype are valued, as
accumulations of wisdom, and analysis is frowned upon, for
putting those accumulations at risk. There's no such concept
as plagiarism, and redundancy is an asset that helps an
audience follow a complex argument. Opponents in struggle are
more memorable than calm and abstract investigations, so bards
revel in name-calling and in "enthusiastic description of physical
violence." Since there's no way to erase a mistake invisibly,
as one may in writing, speakers tend not to correct themselves
at all. Words have their present meanings but no older ones,
and if the past seems to tell a story with values different
from current ones, it is either forgotten or silently adjusted.
As the scholars Jack Goody and Ian Watt observed, it is only in
a literate culture that the past's inconsistencies have to be
accounted for, a process that encourages skepticism and forces
history to diverge from myth."

http://www.newyorker.com/arts/...

Personally, I am very encouraged that a minority of people are
starting to abandon TV for the internet... getting their news and
entertainment through blogs and a renewed interest in reading.


Interesting, But Overstated In Part, I Tthink (4.00 / 1)
According to Ong, the best way to preserve ideas in the absence of writing is to "think memorable thoughts," whose zing insures their transmission. In an oral culture, cliche and stereotype are valued, as accumulations of wisdom, and analysis is frowned upon, for putting those accumulations at risk.

Typically, traditional societies honor and value their elders.  It's partly because they know all the old stories, but they are also respected for accumulated wisdom, which is not just knowing the stories, but knowing which stories--and which parts of stories, and which characters and actions--are the appropriate reference points for informing people at which time.  This involves analysis, there's just no two ways about it,  And it's highly prized.

"You know what they say -- those of us who fail history... doomed to repeat it in summer school." -- Buffy The Vampire Slayer, Season 6, Episode 3


[ Parent ]
Any relationship between literacy (4.00 / 1)
and forms of cognition have really been pretty well demolished by literacy scholars.

--Aaron Schutz (Core Dilemmas of Community Organizing)

[ Parent ]
You Know This Field Far Better Than Me (4.00 / 1)
But aren't there differences between individual literacy and the effects/functioning of an entire culture?

"You know what they say -- those of us who fail history... doomed to repeat it in summer school." -- Buffy The Vampire Slayer, Season 6, Episode 3

[ Parent ]
That's a different question (4.00 / 3)
I think, and more related to the requirements of operating within a world in which written literacy is a key requirement.  And the increase in literacy is related to industrialization/modernity, etc.  So they are somewhat confounded.  But as far as I know there is no direct relationship between WRITTEN literacy and the operation of a culture.  (Literacy scholars today, by the way, tend to see any set of cultural capacities, any coherent ability to make sense of a particular aspect of the cultural world, as a kind of "literacy".)

--Aaron Schutz (Core Dilemmas of Community Organizing)

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Cause or effect? (4.00 / 2)
One of the things I've noticed over the years -- and this is purely anecdotal -- is the seeming impact on literary forms of changes elsewhere in the culture. For example, I smell cinema at work in the difference between Henry James and Don DeLillo, or Thomas Mann and Friedrich Dürrenmatt.

There's also corporate prose, which tends to jam as much meaning into single words as it can, seemingly because a) time is wasting, and b) it saves you having to master -- and remember -- the syntax of idiomatic prepositional phrases and dependent clauses, and those perilous conjunctive phrases which join them the the main idea.

The result, it seems to me, has been the development of a peculiarly dense and ungraceful jargon, which nobody outside the field can understand, not to mention few inside it. (Maybe we should be grateful for that, although it does allow a lot of damage to pass unnoticed in places like Senate hearings.)

Finally, there's just plain magical thinking. This isn't confined to the non-literate classes, by any means. When a CEO reflexively turns in the future into going forward, does he really believe that he therefore controls the future? Does he think we'll think he does? Is it a loss of status everywhere in the business community to admit uncertainty? Is Woe unto he who.... an appropriate response?


[ Parent ]
What I'm Thinking About In Part (4.00 / 2)
Is when cultures get mismatched with the challenges around them.  Which is not always as evident as we might wish--and not always in the direction we suppose.

For example, I think it's virtually unthinkable the problem of global warming would have arisen had we maintained a strong oral tradition.  The kind of short-term micro-rationality that's gotten us into this fix has always been a part of human cultures.  But the breakdown of oral tradition seems deeply implicated in the shifting power relations that have allows that sort of thinking to run amuck and overwhelm everything else.

If everyone in elite positions of power--not just in government, but business as well--could recite stanza upon stanza of Walt Whitman or Robinson Jeffers, I just don't see any way that we could get ourselves into this mess.

Other messes?  Sure!  The human capacity for mischief is virtually limitless.  We're monkeys after all, and that's what monkeys do.  But self-destruction on such an epic scale is something it seems that only losing orality could lead to.

"You know what they say -- those of us who fail history... doomed to repeat it in summer school." -- Buffy The Vampire Slayer, Season 6, Episode 3


[ Parent ]
Really ? (4.00 / 1)
"But as far as I know there is no direct relationship between WRITTEN literacy and the operation of a culture."

Really? That seems to go against logic.

Look at the cultural differences between Protestants (and their emphasis on reading the bible to decide for themselves what the bible says) and Catholics (and their emphasis on having the priest tell them what the bible says), and Jews (and their high respect for studying the Talmud).

Also from what I've read, pre-literate societies have a much greater cultural emphasis on the importance of memory, since every story has to be memorized and passed down to the next generation orally.


[ Parent ]
Good points (4.00 / 2)
I was too sweeping in my statement.  

--Aaron Schutz (Core Dilemmas of Community Organizing)

[ Parent ]
Here's what seems like a good summary of the key (4.00 / 1)
critique of the Ong "Literacy and orality" thesis:

Although their study was published a year before Ong's influential book appeared in print, Scribner and Cole essentially subscribed to what Deborah Brandt (1990) has called the "strong-text theory of literacy" (13) that she associates with Ong as well as with David Olson and Jack Goody. Scribner and Cole wished to find empirical verification for the claims made by Olson, Goody, Havelock and others that literacy shapes culture as well as cognition, that it separates "primitive" from "civilized" societies (4), and that "mastery of a written language affects not only the content of thought but also the process of thinking--how we classify, reason, remember" (5). Instead, they found that, although literacy does indeed have a profound impact on human life and culture, that impact is complex and localized and cannot be described in terms of "generalized changes in cognitive abilities" (234). Their results could not substantiate a claim that people living in oral cultures think only in the ways Ong describes or that they are incapable of thinking in ways that Ong associates with literate cultures.

http://www.albany.edu/faculty/...

(not sure I buy the rest of that page's argument, but I haven't thought about it enough.)

My literacy study days were a while ago.  

--Aaron Schutz (Core Dilemmas of Community Organizing)


[ Parent ]
Divide (4.00 / 1)
My understanding is that although Scribner and Cole disagreed with Ong as to the Literacy versus Orality divide, they weren't disagreeing that much in that they were arguing for a Schooled versus Orality divide.

"Their surprising finding was that literacy in itself had very little effect on performance in these tests, though formal schooling did."

http://www.languagehat.com/arc...

This is something Ong seems now to be agreeing with. After all "secondary orality" describes someone who can can read, but who just doesn't read very much.


[ Parent ]
Right (4.00 / 2)
it's not literacy as an independent influence.  But as you note above, likely the capacity to read and write did have some impact on the particular kinds of skills that were foregrounded in a particular culture.  

I forgot to note above about your protestant/catholic divide.  It wasn't "caused" by literacy, although it did lead to differences in a focus on literacy (which likely led to other changes).

--Aaron Schutz (Core Dilemmas of Community Organizing)


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Another Thought (4.00 / 3)
When I was 16, I hitch-hiked cross country to the Newport Folk Festival.

Passing through Detroit I was picked up by a black minister who spoke to me entirely in Bible quotations. He expressed himself with complete and utter fluidity, and no sign whatsoever of artifice, strain or distortion.

He was like a jazz musician who could freely interpolate melodies from a thousand different songs into the melody he happened to be playing, only the melody this man was playing was his internal thoughts, never heard directly except through the Biblical quotes he wove together.

Over 40 years later, that's easily the most memorable ride I got.

No way he was functioning without a high level of critical consciousness.  He was no juke box.  He was Duke Ellington and Charlie Parker rolled into one, with hints of Sun Ra on the side.

"You know what they say -- those of us who fail history... doomed to repeat it in summer school." -- Buffy The Vampire Slayer, Season 6, Episode 3


[ Parent ]
Did others catch the story last week on the GRE's new "personality score?" (4.00 / 1)
"The Personal Potential Index:"
http://www.washingtonpost.com/...

So every liberal arts student must read their Foucault, but y'know, not too closely?

Per the Wa Po,

"The index asks professors to log onto a Web site and rate a student on such skills as 'Works well in group settings' and 'Accepts feedback without getting defensive.'"



thanks for this, Paul and Natasha (4.00 / 3)
As somebody always on the lookout for good ideas to steal and riff off, hitting up Open Left on weekends is always a treat.

This is a great short explanation of something that has confounded me for a while now.  I have always known that the self-help narrative is in opposition to group struggle.  But the notion that people who only know the self-improvement song lack even the language to describe or analyze power relationships is someplace I had never thought to go before this.

That young people imprisoned in this narrative cannot conceive of operating power relationships not only in the present, but in the study of history, is really scary.  I do think, as some of Clio B's commenters suggested, that NCLB and turning schools into test prep centers has a lot to do with this awful mental stunting of a generation.  And it's getting worse.

After being surrounded by young people like that for a while, and knowing that I am nearly sixty myself I sometimes feel a little like that android at the end of Blade Runner who had "seen things you people wouldn't believe."  

Anyhow, this is really great stuff.  Thanks again.

"If you want that good feeling that comes from doing things for other people, then you have to pay for it in abuse and misunderstanding..."
Zora Neale Hurston


Just remember (4.00 / 2)
that these complaints about the lack of critical thought among young people have (as paul pointed out to me) been rampant since pretty much the beginning of education.  Whether the more specific complaints of Clio B are more contemporary may be a different issue, but I kind of doubt it.  Whether NCLB has had a significant impact on this is hard to know, as much as I hate NCLB.  Certainly it reduced the number of students who encountered truly critical teachers.  

--Aaron Schutz (Core Dilemmas of Community Organizing)

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Yeah, Aaron you're right .... (4.00 / 2)
It's definitely a but much to blame it all on NCLB, though the shoe does fit awfully well.

The self-help explanation of the world is way bigger and wider and older than that, as explained above, and really belongs to an earlier, less complicated age.

"If you want that good feeling that comes from doing things for other people, then you have to pay for it in abuse and misunderstanding..."
Zora Neale Hurston


[ Parent ]
I too like Sundays on Open Left and glad to see Bruce here (4.00 / 1)
I have interviewed Glen Ford 4 times on my Montana lefty radio show and adore him.  And I never miss you or Glen on Mark Thompson's show.  When I despair, I read Blackagendareport.com and know I am not alone.

I would like to add to this discussion that Freud screwed the whole 20th century up.  His nephew Edward Bernays and Walter Lippman brought the awfulness of marketing  and public relations into our lives.  Make people feel bad about themselves. And then sell them junk and books and solutons to fix them.  It's all in  your screwed up head. And it was a way to create a bunch of sheeple.  Thank god, I finally discovered Carl Jung. If we make Jung our guide in the 21st century, we can relegate Freud and public relations folks to the back of the line.  

To Jung, a mature person is not necessarily a navel gazing self help freak, but somebody who really tries to get inside other people's heads and tries to get in their shoes.  They become more social and part of a group and then begin to see themselves in larger and larger groups.  In the Bible it says that "we are all of one body with gifts differing".  We are all one.  We all have the same archetype and myth telling.  We dream the same dreams.  It is the essence of a we society.  The philospher Jesus said "where two or more of you are gathered, there I will be".  See!  Two or more.  Not all alone.  Not just you and Jesus.  It's about the group and the struggle together.

I call Obama the "Tsk Tsker in Chief".  He is always lecturing us and other countries about self improvement. "A rising tide lifts all boats" my ass.  Hey, Mr. President you have to have a boat!  Some folks don't even have a damn life jacket.  They watch as the rich in their yachts speed by and throw them a "how to swim" pamphlet.  

A whole bunch of psychologists and marketeers have tried to convince us that it is us who are screwing up.  But it is not.  It is this screwed up economic system called capitalism and a political system that has become neo feudal.

 


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Thanks, Bruce (4.00 / 2)
That was a real find by Natasha that I was happy to be able to expand upon and share.  I'm glad others will be sharing it, too.

While educationaction makes a good point, I wouldn't ignore the impact of NCLB, which is both direct--cutting way back on time available for the rudimentary prep work for critical thinking--and indirect, in the way of steamrolling over alternative approaches.  A while back, shortly before NCLB, if I've got my timeline memories straight, California had developed a statewide test intended to measure progress in critical thinking, and the right went absolutely nuts attacking it--successfully, in the end.

Progressives might well have fought back, and gotten it reinstated, but NCLB made all of that moot.  Yes, critical thinking is more difficult to assess by test.  Yes, portfolio evaluations are much more helpful, according to my non-expert understanding (educationaction can correct me if I'm wrong).  Yes, people learn at different rates, and as someone who was generally way ahead of grade level, I think this is unfair to those who learn both more slowly and more quickly than others.  Learning slower does not make you stupid, any more than learning faster by itself makes you smarter.

Even so, standardized testing of critical thinking skills would constitute a significant turn in direction that could lead us toward much broader and deeper changes in the future.  So losing that fight--losing even the opportunity for that fight, was a big blow.  

Who knows how many other such blows have been delivered by NCLB?

"You know what they say -- those of us who fail history... doomed to repeat it in summer school." -- Buffy The Vampire Slayer, Season 6, Episode 3


[ Parent ]
Standardized testing of critical thinking skills (4.00 / 1)
might be helpful, I suppose.

The problem is that the way multiple choice tests work is to frame what "counts" as critical thinking in quite narrow ways.  The structure of this form of testing literally cannot capture the nuances of complex thinking.

So what would happen is that schools in low-income areas would teach the tests' definition of critical thinking "as" critical thinking.  This might actually be an improvement, bringing critical thinking at least back onto the radar.  But it might also do damage to the richness of the idea of critical thinking.  

And then if you let some of the "psychometricians" (e.g., test-making statisticians) get ahold of these tests, they would then have the power to define critical thinking.  In the end it is the test and not the standards that underly the test that end up defining the area being addressed.

Portfolio assessments allow much richer assessments.  However, testing requires that an assessment must be able to be "reliably" or "replicably" assessed by different people.  This generally requires the construction of a fairly narrow understanding of what counts as a good portfolio (not always, but failing to construct such a schema will reduce reliability among raters).  

And this can then lead to "gaming" the portfolios and teaching the creation of portfolios as if they were kind of multiple choice tests.

The same thing happens, for example, in AP essays, where the strict definition of "good" eliminates some of the best and most creative thinking.  

My colleague Pamela A. Moss has done a lot of work examining the relationship between the demand for reliability and the capacity to develop rich assessments.  I did a lot of work with her on teacher portfolio assessment--e.g., how to decide who is and is not a good teacher based on a portfolio that teacher constructed.

For those who are interested:

Article not behind a pay wall:

http://epaa.asu.edu/epaa/v12n33/

"A central dilemma of portfolio assessment is that as the richness of the data available to readers increases, so do the challenges involved in ensuring acceptable reliability among readers."

Articles behind pay walls:

http://www.questia.com/googleS...

http://aer.sagepub.com/cgi/con...

--Aaron Schutz (Core Dilemmas of Community Organizing)


[ Parent ]
I don't know if you will read this, (4.00 / 1)
because this post is a few days old, but I wanted to tell you that you are one of the most incisive thinkers in the progressive blogosphere.  This is quality analysis.  Creative and insightful.  

After all, what is a more perfect embodiment of "a culture of 'achievement' and 'self-help' than a candidate-centered "movement" united by the slogan "Yes We Can"?

Psychobabble masking existing power relationships.  


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