Goldman Sachs is a Problem and the Symptom of a Worse Problem

by: Ian Welsh

Wed Jul 15, 2009 at 20:35


Let's chat about Goldman Sachs profits, why they're making so much money, and why it's a problem rather than a case of "good for them".

Market Manipulation Zero Hedge has made the case that Goldman could be using their program trading to move the markets in the direction they prefer, as the largest program trader in the market, twice as large as the next biggest. The case was reasonably strong, but was made stronger when the New York Stock Exchange suddenly decided to stop releasing the data on program trading which made it possible to track what Goldman was doing. Coincidence? Possibly. It is also possible that you may wish to purchase this fine bridge I have for sale, only ever driven over by a little old lady.

Government Bailout Money Through AIG Goldman received 13 billion from AIG, after receiving 5.9 billion before the bailout, which caused AIG to collapse (not that it wouldn't have eventually).  The 13 billion is a straight government giveaway, since if AIG had been allowed to go under, GS would have received cents on the dollar, at best.

Goldman Sachs is now a bank. And that means they get money at bank rates from the Fed, which means their cost for money is as low as it is possible to be, which increases their profits.

Goldman Sachs has contacts at the highest levels of government.  Glenn Greenwald laid this out best, with a stunning list of occasions in which Goldman was present for decisions or where Goldman Sachs employees (the most significant of whom was Hank Paulson) were hired for key spots in the Treasury department.  He also notes that Goldman's executives were the top campaign donors for the year.  I'd say they've gotten their money's worth.

Privatize the Profits, Socialize the Losses.  Or, as a friend put it "Goldman trades high volatility".  Which is to say, they take risks.  Big risks.  If those risks fails (as when they were AIG's largest customer), well then, they get bailed out by the government.

Heads Goldman Sachs wins. Tails the taxpayer loses

It's a good game, if you can be in on it.  And this is only an overview.  For example there is some speculation that Goldman may have been front running other traders (knowing what trades were coming up and putting in their orders first to take advantage of it.)

The larger issues are simpler...

Ian Welsh :: Goldman Sachs is a Problem and the Symptom of a Worse Problem

Goldman was bailed out by government money and is now making lots of money.  They've paid back the money from TARP, but they haven't paid back the 18 million paid to them through AIG.  They should.

Worse than that is the possibility that they are manipulating the market.  I make no claims that they are, but the evidence is that they could be.  The market is thin enough, and dominated enough by program trading that they could move the market if they chose.  It may just be coincidence that they're having their best year ever, while normal traders who rely on normal market correlations got slaughtered:

The last few days the the market has traded "organically."  I and many other market participants have noted that prior to the week before July 4th the market had been acting "very odd" - normal correlations between interest rate, foreign exchange the the stock markets had been on "tilt" for the previous couple of months, with the amount of "tiltage" increasing dramatically in the last three or four weeks.  In fact, many of my usual indicators that I use for daytrading had become completely useless.  Suddenly, just before the July 4the weekend, everything started correlating normally again.  I have no explanation for this "light-switch" change but it aligned almost exactly with the day the NYSE had "computer problems" and extended trading by 15 minutes. Was there a configuration change made to their networking infrastructure, one asks?

 

Again, this could be nothing but an odd market, and have nothing to do with Goldman Sachs.  Sometimes indicators do go haywire, and this is an unusual period.

But the perception amongst market participants and the general public is increasingly that the market is crooked and working to the benefit of insiders, especially Goldman Sachs.  Given Goldman's clout, both financially and politically, this is not an unreasonable belief when the market is trading so thinly. But normal investors aren't going to want to get back into the market if they believe that it is being manipulated.

The SEC, Fed and the New York State Attorney General Andrew Cuomo need to do a full investigation.  The results need to be revealed.  The US is already, in its economic policies, which preferentially bail out the rich and important, leaving ordinary people in the dust, trending towards becoming a bannana republic.  Lack of certainty about market manipulation on the flagship New York Stock Exchange is the sort of thing which will keep investors out.

And, to put it simply, the US needs foreign investors, the deep liquidity, back, and it needs them back in a big way.  There are policies which would not require them to come back, but those policies have not been followed.  If the US wants to run these huge deficits (not just government, but trade and monetary), money needs to recycle back to the US.  Yes, the balance of payments deficit is lower than in the past, and the savings rate is up, but the deficit is not down enough and the savings rate is not up enough, especially given the huge debt overhang.

Goldman is a problem, but more than that it is a symptom of the deeper malaise in the US, where the system works for connected rich insiders and doesn't work for ordinary people.  


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They're not just connected to guv, they're IN it big time (0.00 / 0)
Thanks for posting here. I've really enjoyed your work since BOP and, per usual, you're spot on with this piece. ZH has honed in on this in a pretty impressive fashion, as has Taibbi, and given the kinds of reactions they've gotten... they're probably onto something pretty serious.

GS has invested an awful lot buying their way into government and they pretty much own this administration lock, stock and high frequency algo barrels. Being in power means never having to say, "The defendant pleads guilty, yer honor," much less "sorry."

Talk about ROI! Nothing like Greed With Impunity to brighten up one's weekend in the Hamptons!

"In our country, the lie has become not just a moral category but a pillar of the State" -- Alexander Solzhenitsyn


Yah (4.00 / 1)
Thanks for the kind words.  Happy to be here.

I've been arguing for years that there's no investment which has as good an ROI as buying the government.  GS seems to be the indisputable proof (not that there haven't been other obvious cases...)


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Indeed you have (0.00 / 0)
If anyone wrote a textbook on how to buy influence as a protection racket, GS would almost have to own the copyright... especially these days, especially if they didn't write it. But there are lots of other contenders... like everyone on Darth Cheney's Energy "Task Force."

It's more enlightening, perhaps, to point out who doesn't have that kind of racketeering prowess, yes? Silly question, I know, as we all know who that is.........


"In our country, the lie has become not just a moral category but a pillar of the State" -- Alexander Solzhenitsyn


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You are absolutely right about market manipulation (4.00 / 1)
and investors deciding not to participate in markets that are perceived to be manipulated.  

That is why someone SEC, Justice Dept. Congress, someone needs to start investigating the "Doomsday Machine" that Goldman Sachs created and lost track of somewhere in Germany.

Goldman Sachs is the epitome of TBTF.  I said this yesterday and I will repeat it:

The profits that Goldman Sachs made are mostly from trading hardly something that is sustainable over the long term other areas of the conglomerate didn't do well.  So, if its trading tanks again will Treasury, Fed and/or FDIC bail them out again?

Nothing has changed for Goldman Sachs despite still being a bank holding company subject to some level of regulations and oversight.

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GS (0.00 / 0)
has way too much influence.  They are practically a fourthbranch of government.

But the charges Zero Hedge is making are pure tin foil hat stuff.  


Firms like Goldman do serve an important purpose in a capitalist economy (0.00 / 0)
And to do what they do (provide liquidity through trading, finance or help finance business and government activity, offer advisory services), they need to be able to take on risk and gamble with their and other peoples' money, and make a decent profit if they succeed.

The thing is, when that risk, and profit, are disproportionately higher than the benefit that they offer the economy and thus society, when that risk is meaningless because the taxpayers will always bail them out, and when that profit is made via excessive and unfair access to government connections, a firm like Goldman ceases to justify its own existance.

One could, of course, make the libertarian argument of "tough noogies", them's the breaks. But our country wasn't founded on libertarian priciples (sorry, Paulites, but it wasn't, and if you think otherwise, you're crazy). It was founded on liberal policies, that tried to strike a balance between absolute freedom, and the good of society.

None other than the father of the American economy, Alexander Hamilton, said as much, repeatedly (and it's notable that despite serving as the first Treasury secretary and founding the first US national bank and the Bank of NY, and having ample opportunity to do so, he never profited from his government service).

So I ask again, what purpose does a Goldman serve, when it seems to benefit itself way out of proportion to the benefits it bestows onto the society that allows it to exist and function? We don't need to shut it down, but should be limit what it can do, for the good of all? We have the right, and power to do this, legislatively (although of course it would have lots of friends in the judiciary, ready to strike down laws that hurt it, but that's a different issue).

The liberal soul shall be made fat. He who waters shall be watered also himself. (Proverbs 11:25)


Goldman Sachs IS government (0.00 / 0)
emocrat said "They're not just connected to guv, they're IN it big time."

fladem sad "They are practically a fourth branch of government"

Peer a little deeper. THEY ARE GOVERNMENT. Think about that. The myth of "a government of, by and for the people" is just that .. a myth. Big business, especially the financial industry (74% of our economy) and especially Goldman Sachs IS OUR GOVERNMENT.

I realize that many of us understand that we are not a democracy, but a government of special interests; that our elected officials do not represent us (at least as long as we tolerate it), but rather the special interests of big business. (All polls show about 75% of all Americans want a public option in health care. Let's see if we get it.)

But I am not sure most Americans understand that, literally, big business IS government.  


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Goldman was behind the Iraq war? (0.00 / 0)
Goldman was behind warrantless wiretaps, torture, indefinite detention, etc.?

I understand and accept that firms like Goldman have hugely disproportionate power over government, especially in matters that relate to the economy, but to suggest that they ARE the government is a bit much, right up there with truthers, Bilderberg/CFR CTs, and how Israel actually controls US foreign policy through AIPAC. It's not that simple.

Powerful, yes, absolutely powerful, um, no.

The liberal soul shall be made fat. He who waters shall be watered also himself. (Proverbs 11:25)


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