Stronger Demands Do Not Make a Movement More Frightening

by: Chris Bowers

Thu Jul 30, 2009 at 14:47


Via Quick Hits, over at Common Dreams, Jeff Cohen argues that the "Netroots" should have made a stronger demand on H.R. 676, which would have led to a better public option. It is not a new idea, but I am quoting it here because of a major hole in its overall theory of change:

Had liberal groups sent out millions of emails building a movement that posed an existential threat to the health insurance industry, Sen. Baucus and Blue Dog Democrats and their corporate healthcare patrons might well be on their knees begging for a comprehensive public option - to avert the threat of full-blown Medicare for All.(...)

To win serous reforms, we need activist leaders who are tough-minded progressives making maximum demands for reforms that truly address our nation's problems.  Leave the inside-the-Beltway deal-making to the politicians, properly frightened and moved by the roar of mass movements.

Given that he is complaining entirely about the leadership here, Cohen has an extremely top-down view of the diffuse, decentralized netroots (a word that he oddly capitalizes). He is also conflating two worthy, but distinct, ideas with one another. Frightening politicians into progressive action via mass movements and making more progressive demands are not the same thing, and have no causal relationship with each other.

More in the extended entry.

Chris Bowers :: Stronger Demands Do Not Make a Movement More Frightening
My experience in politics has taught me that it is impossible to influence politicians unless they are frightened of you. Over the past couple years, the only votes we have managed to flip on major legislation have come as a result of either strong swings on public opinion (as happened in Iraq from 2004-2006), or from spending resources on advertisements and / or primary challenges (click here, here and here for a few examples). That the House quickly passed executive bonus compensation in the wake of the AIG bonus scandal is another good example. Non-progressive politicians will only act progressive when they are afraid doing otherwise will cost them something of great value (such as their jobs).

I also agree that it is best to start from the strongest possible negotiating position. If you pre-compromise your demands, then it is likely you will lose more ground in the negotiating process than those who do not. This is both because you have demonstrated a willingness to cave, and because you have already lost ground in the process.

However, making stronger demands does not make politicians more frightened of you all by itself. To put it another way, movements don't get bigger just because they make stronger demands. A person attending a rally, making a phone call to Congress, or writing on a blog does not become two people just because s/he made a stronger, more vehement demand. Members of Congress aren't afraid of us now because we usually don't represent a threat to their fundraising, their re-election, the pork they bring home to their districts, or the local media coverage they receive. The other side makes more phone calls (most of which are astroturf), has more lobbyists appearing in their offices, and does a lot more to benefit Blue Dogs and other center-right members of Congress than we do. None of that would have changed if we made more left-wing demands.

The amount of people and resources we have to frighten non-progressive members of Congress into progressive legislation is a different variable then the degree of progressivism we are making in legislative demands. Changing your demands does not change your ability to frighten members of Congress to accede to those demands. I agree that we need more ability to frighten members of Congress into action, and I agree that we need to start from less compromised negotiating positions. However, engaging in the later does not magically create the former, despite the lingering left-wing fantasy that a vast lumpenproletariat has not risen up simply because no one is representing their innate desire for revolution.


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so how do we pressure (frighten) congress outside of an election year? (0.00 / 0)
or are we doomed to lose influence between each 2-year mark?

We can't. Gotta throw some Democrats under the bus in the general (4.00 / 2)
Primary challenges won't do it.

We need to throw a Democrat under the bus and give the seat to the GOP.  Essentially find a few conservative Democrats with viable GOP candidate running against them.

Then start running ads in the district saying all the ways that the Democratic incumbent is just as bad as the GOP challenger.  "Might as well stay home.  There isn't a real Democrat running."

Take down 5-6 incumbents that way, and then we'll have power.  Look at how many GOP candidates are willing to take pro-choice or anti-creationism positions.  None.  Because their base will throw them under the bus.

Until we do the same, it's just bitch and moan, then vote for the lesser of two evils.


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i agree, but with one caveat: (4.00 / 2)
we can only afford to do this if we have a surplus of democrats. which we do now.

in the past, we couldn't afford to do this. better to have a conservative dem than no dem.

50 democrats < 50 democrats < 60 democrats < 55 progressives?

i don't know... maybe.


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Have to be careful how we do it... (4.00 / 4)
...It has to be crystal clear that the incumbent got taken down for not being progressive enough, and not the other way around.  Every time a swing district incumbent democrat loses, the CW is that the candidate was "too liberal"

One way to do that is to run green party candidates in places where it might make a difference.  chief obstructor, Mr. Ross from AK could be taken down that way...  the green party is quite viable in AK...  He would be my number one target!

REID: Voting against us was never part of our arrangement!
SPECTER: I am altering the deal! Pray I don't alter it any further!
REID: This deal keeps getting worse all the time!


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evan bayh (4.00 / 1)
He will have a republican challenger in 2010. i  think this race is ripe for a third party (NAtional Healthcare Party) challenge. He is one of the worst Dems, so who cares if he is gone. Im going to be a freshman at Notre Dame this year so i will begin to organize around campus and in south bend. this is for real.

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Direct action (4.00 / 2)
Strikes, sit-ins, building take-overs.  Basically, start behaving more like the French, or like Americans during the Great Depression.

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well said. and that being said, organizing at the grassroots level for single payer is a great idea. (4.00 / 1)


Jim Madison fucked up (4.00 / 1)
whether intentionally or not.

In civilized countries, where they have proportional representation, they build the governing coalition AFTER the election invests representatives with power.

In America, however, we must build the governing coalition BEFORE the election. Thus we get the stealth agenda of the shadow government wrapped up in a typical milquetoast package.

Since we never really get serious about Constitutional reform (maybe we will after a disaster) we must build an alternative coalition to the shadow government BEFORE the election.

In other words, forget about accomplishing any roll back of the empire, police state, plutocracy etc. without cementing the libertarians with the run-of-the-mill left.

I would offer them

1. currency reform
2. a simplified progressive tax code
3. a roll back of empire
4. a restoration of civil liberties
5. an end to the drug war

in exchange for
1. common sense on the need for a safety net
2. common sense on the need to protect the environment
3. common sense on the need for government to finance technology R&D

Above all, both sides get to use the power of democracy to war down the proud who use government to help the few at the too: something we can all agree on.

The alternative is the victory of entropy and a new Dark Age. The choice is yours.


Very interesting! But please run it past, well, whoever you need to run it past (0.00 / 0)
I'm not exactly sure where to go for leading libertarian groups, but ronpaulforums.com seems like the place to ask. I'd love to hear what they answer you.

You could also feel them out for what issues to try and push off to the states. IMO, that may be the only way to deal with wedge issues. I.e., let people fight it out in their own states. :-)

There are transpartisan political tools in the works, such as Nancy Bordier's, but it'd be good to whip up a considerable buzz ahead of time.

If we do not hang together, we will all hang separately.

- Ben Franklin

I wonder if Franklin foresaw that it'd be bankers and corporatists who would be doing the 'hanging'. I think it was Jefferson who feared exactly that.

For contact leads, you can also refer to my diary References from "Voice of the People: The Transpartisan Imperative in American Life"

Finally, if Codex Alimentarius is even half as bad as this video presented it to be*, people of all political stripes will be hopping mad after December. Maybe I'm being subjective, because I'm a big user and believer of natural food supplementation, but I recently posted a quote claiming 125 million other American users, as well.

* Even ignoring the speakers claims about truly massive fatalities, which I have a hard time taking seriously.

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To me, the diarist misses the point... (4.00 / 3)
that mobilization and making more demands creates the impetus for building the fear.  It is the way people power can offset the power of money and the insiders.

That is what happened in the social movements Cohen referred to.  It does not start in a vacuum, but when people start to make demands and those demands grow along with the number of those making the demands.

The framework, HR 676, exists, and that is where the left should have coalesced.  Instead, too many give what amounts to blind faith in Obama, when he has shown repeatedly that he is not aligned with the desires of progressives.

This, from Tikkun, sums it up pretty well about Obama supporters, and is not much different than what Cohen said:


Rather than vociferously demand a single-payer program, or an end to the war, or anything else they believe in, most Obama supporters have largely opted out of politics. They refuse to challenge the president in any way, for fear that doing so would weaken him politically. Moreover, too many of them have embraced a secular mysticism when it comes to Obama, as though he were the messiah, believing that his ways are not our ways, but that he must have a Grand Plan and know what he is doing. Thrilled, as are we, by the valuable public discourse that he has introduced; delighted, as are we, by the intelligence and decency and sense of inner calm that he embodies; rejoicing, as do we, that we now have a president of whom we can be proud, his supporters have then closed their eyes to the actual details of the policies he has backed.

Many Obama supporters intuitively and correctly suspected that if they focused on his policies they would be deeply disappointed about issues such as his prioritization of the needs of Wall Street and the multinational bankers over the needs of the millions of people thrown out of their homes or their jobs in the current economic meltdown. His administration recently decided to let the big banks return the money they received (interest-free) without making significant reforms or capping the outrageously high compensations their upper managers receive.

Other Obama supporters have watched those policies with private disappointment, unwilling to turn that into public challenge.

As a result, without serious pressure from his political left, Obama feels he must turn his attention only to his political right, and as a compromiser and "builder of unity," he naturally will be pulled in that direction. Without a clear and loud message from his supporters, Obama has decided that there is no reason to shift from his original health care plan toward a new openness to single-payer care. Will he even stick to his campaign pledge to include a strong and meaningful public option? He hasn't felt such an obligation with regard to issues around torture and human rights and many other issues, but he is clearly trying to stand up for his preferred health plan, at least at this stage: he is making more bully pulpit speeches for it than the Clintons did for theirs. It's up to his supporters not to abandon him to the pressures of Washington. It is now, more than ever, that he needs to hear our ideas

http://www.tikkun.org/article....


not a magic formula, but not unrelated either (0.00 / 0)
if you need public support for the efforts that strike fear into the hearts of Congress, it can be easier to get it when what you are lobbying for is worth the fight. similar to the way a good candidate can energize supporters. who wants to give money and time for a lame one-third-assed compromise? the same applies to pipe dream fantasies, too, though. i guess i'm in the Plausibly Liberal Party.

not everything worth doing is profitable. not everything profitable is worth doing.

or, What Digby Said (4.00 / 2)
As for winning the larger argument among the citizenry, as dday writes below, and as I've been saying for years (and for which I was especially chastised by all sides during the kumbaaya campaign) liberals gave up the war of the rhetoric a long time ago and contented themselves with playing around the edges of conservatism. Until that changes, liberals will be fighting on their turf and that means that no matter how much institutional power liberals attain, needed change is going to be more difficult than it already is --- which is to say extremely difficult. When people don't know what "change" means beyond a change of occupancy in the white house, the other side can very easily fill in the blanks with tales of terrorists and government boogeymen coming to kill senior citizens. And that makes the nauseating sausage making more revolting --- and obscure -- than ever.


not everything worth doing is profitable. not everything profitable is worth doing.

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This is key (0.00 / 0)
My experience in politics has taught me that it is impossible to influence politicians unless they are frightened of you.

Those who can be influenced without fear, already have.  

--Aaron Schutz (Core Dilemmas of Community Organizing)







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