Nomination At A Glance, September 19th Update

by: Chris Bowers

Wed Sep 19, 2007 at 12:35


All State Polls Taken August 17th through September 18th
Democratic Nomination, At a Glance
State Est. Date # Polls Clinton Edwards Obama Richardson
Net Avail Cash Jun 30 Q2 $29.6M $11.8M $33.6M $6.9M
Iowa Dec-Jan? 5 26.2% 23.6% 21.0% 11.6%
New Hampshire Jan 08 4 37.8% 14.0% 17.3% 9.3%
National Feb 05 NA 39.5% 12.1% 21.5% 2.9%

I have moved Edwards into second place, even though the difference between Edwards and Obama is wafer thin right now in both Iowa and New Hampshire. Obama has far more money and an advantage over Edwards in national polls, but that could easily change once Iowa and New Hampshire are over.

Republican Nomination, At a Glance
State Est. Date # Polls Romney Giuliani Thompson McCain Hukabee
Net Avail Cash June 30 Q2 $12.1M $14.7M $2.8M $0.1M $0.4M
Iowa Dec-Jan? 5 30.8% 14.4% 13.4% 6.6% 9.8%
New Hampshire Jan 08 4 27.5% 22.8% 11.5% 12.5% 5.3%
South Carolina Jan 19 4 9.8% 22.0% 22.3% 14.0% 6.8%
National Feb 05 NA 9.9% 27.2% 20.1% 12.1% 3.4%

(Note: I have included South Carolina on the Republican side because it is currently scheduled to take place ten days earlier than the Democratic version, which I do not currently see as meaningfully separate from national polling given its late date.

Romney's lead in New Hapshire is slipping, and Rudy Giuliani appears to be the main beneficiary. Still, unless someone starts to challenge Romney in Iowa, a smaller lead in New Hamshpire does not matter all that much for him. Of course, speculation of that sort is difficult until we actually know the primary calendar.

Methodological notes can be found in the extended entry.
Chris Bowers :: Nomination At A Glance, September 19th Update
Methodological Notes
  • Nomination at a Glance archive can be found here
  • My averages are different from those at Pollster.com, because I use a simple mean while they use a trendline system. Mystery Pollster writes about that here.
  • An explanation for my projected calendar can be found here.
  • Only announced candidates with 5% or more in most polling averages are shown.
  • National polling averages taken from Pollster.com. Virtually all early state polls can also be found at Pollster.com.
  • “Net Available Cash” equals cash on hand minus debts minus amount raised for general election. More information can be found at Open Secrets. Current numbers are not precise, as all data is not yet available.
  • For Democrats, early state polls that only include Clinton, Edwards and Obama in the questions were not included.
  • For Democrats, early state polls that include Gore in the question were only included when Gore-less results were unavailable.
  • February 5th is not actually a national primary, but due to the large number of states holding nomination events on that date, national polls are used as a placeholder.

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Republican Stats (0.00 / 0)
Are you assuming the same effect on new hampshire from iowa's results for Republicans?  If so, I would think that 2000 at least would present sort of a problem for your model.

Double dip (0.00 / 0)
Iowa got two bites at the apple in the 2000 Republican contest, the Iowa straw poll and the Iowa caucuses.  In fact, the straw poll mattered the most as it eliminated three "mainstream Republicans" from caucus competition (Liddy Dole, Dan Quayle, Lamar Alexander) essentially handing the Iowa caucuses to George W. Bush over a fractured right wing.

Caucus night was one of the many occassions where Tv coverage skewed markedly to favor Bush.  The big early story was that Steve Forbes did far better than expected.  By the morning, Forbes showing was downplayed and George W. Bush was made an overwhelming victor.  I'm not sure how he would have survived an expectations loss in Iowa followed by an actual thrashing by McCain in New Hampshire.  We'll never know.

Republicans in Iowa got less than two full bites at the apple this cycle as the media downplayed the once all powerful straw poll (after all it made Bush the frontrunner for five whole months).  At the least, Mitt got to test his ground game and Giuliani, McCain, and Thompson did not.  Barring a gaffe that the media actually plays up, I can't see Mitt Romney losing this thing and it makes no frigging sense.  We better get a few shots in on him before the primaries are over as he is nationally pretty much of an unknown and he rewrites his story every time to fit the occassion.

A weakened, set up meat will be (well) dog meat (and yes, I deliberately chose that given his dog abuse story.


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Was that in response to my comment? (0.00 / 0)
I was just asking if Bowers was using the same numbers for Republicans and Democrats, when I don't think there is much evidence to suggest that the Iowa Republican caucus has much effect on the New Hampshire Republican primary.  Frankly the projections are just total bullshit anyway - statistically it is like trying to predict an election by polling five or six people.

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It is going to be nail biting time for the campaigns post Thanksgiving (0.00 / 0)
as far as field outreach goes.

Maybe even the week before Thanksgiving right up to Jan.2nd if a volunteer canvasser can find people at home in NH or in Iowa that'll be a bonus. Weekends, for most voters, will be preoccupied with Christmas shopping/holiday parties and weekends are usually when the campaigns get the weekend activists to show up for door to door canvassing. College kids from greater Boston area?throughout New England filled a huge role in canvassing. Where are college kids mid Dec? Studying for Finals and then scattered at home for the holidays.

I predict that the campaigns will be operating in the dark unlike other years for the immediate weeks prior to the actual caucus and primary.

Iowa will take on tremendous importance as a result.

These early dates are nightmares for these campaigns.


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