verizon service (0.00 / 0)

i have verizon cable service in NY and we do not have msnbc and it is bs, i called once and they said cablevision service has an exclusive deal in ny we should do something about this,

i saw olbermans clip on crooks and liars the other night breaking down how much it took the healthcare industry to buy congressman and senators, i got chills from watching

whatever you think people owe you, that is what you owe people

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by: eomonroe00 @ Wed Aug 05, 2009 at 09:08:53 AM CDT

Same boat here...DMV argument is over played (0.00 / 0)

We just switched to Verizon FiOS for TV, internet, blah, blah and don't get MSNBC due to an anti-competitive deal. Good news is that Elizabeth Varney at the Justice Department apparently has exactly this deal on her plate due to complaints. It was in the NY Times in the past two months.

Also, I don't get this hatred of the DMV. Yes, it can take an hour to get through their process. But I've had the joy of being in the NY, CT, AZ, and CA DMV offices in the past 10 years and they were all very efficient, even when crowded. My only time wasted was waiting for other people ahead of me to complete their turn.

And don't forget working at the DMV sucks: one clerk told me of people who literally jump over the counter when they're told they have to go home to get paperwork they needed. Plus their managers pound service, service, service into the worker bees heads at every turn.

So the DMV argument is a bit dated, a golden oldie that's no longer operant. Unless you hate government, period, and refuse to be rational.

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by: TSlavin @ Wed Aug 05, 2009 at 11:35:38 AM CDT

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NJ privatized under Wittman (0.00 / 0)

The Republican privatized version really was a nightmare.  Count on spending a half dozen trips to register a leased car.  Count on several of those trips taking at least three or four hours.  The whole thing operated on a do-loop principal where you simply got pushed forward one problem at a time.

The contractor was a politically-wired Republican outfit from California.  Politically wired to the GOP that is.  McGreevy restored the old DMV and it works.And has worked through Codey and Corzine.  Wonder if Christie would restore the nightmare.  Bet he would.

Motto: Privatized Republican DMV very bad.  Government run DMV pretty good.

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by: David Kowalski @ Wed Aug 05, 2009 at 12:28:25 PM CDT

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Willie Horton & Swift Boats Were Stupid, and Dems are f'ing (0.00 / 0)

INCOMPETENT.

We got a more noblerer, educatederer, smarterer, nicerer, betterer and gooderer class of Dim-O-Cratic

over 'educated', over credentialed, over paid, political fucking LITE weights who are too concerned with being the next McNeil-Lehrer George Kennan / Teddy White, sagely scratching their chin, clearing their throat and pontificating.

Just like ALL the fascist campaigns, this idiotic soundbite might disappear into the memory hole with hundreds of others idiotic soundbites,  OR

it might be the next harry & louise, swiftboat, willie horton fascist home run.

Anyone wanna bet that lucy is gonna pull the football, AGAIN, right before 'our' DishRag-O-Crats deliver the resounding Tome of Truth?

rmm.


It is too full o' the milk of human kindness To catch the nearest way

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by: seabos84 @ Wed Aug 05, 2009 at 09:25:39 AM CDT

Ludicrous arguments by GOP (0.00 / 0)

I think they are complaining short term because it was taking the auto dealers too long on the computers to get their rebates straighted out, which is a point, but so what, everyone is eventually going to get their money.

The crazy arguments are that this isn't stimulus, which is totally wrong, and that the money shouldn't be replaced in the $787B package.  Who really cares, as this is plan is working, and should continue to be used to help stimulate demand for autos.

Finally, if I hear another GOP'er talk about long term deficits after they ran two wars off the books, and had two large tax cuts which benefited the upper 1% of wage earners disproportionately, I think I'll scream.  I'm not sure why Dems don't continually come back to this argument that the GOP has nothing to say about deficits when they cut taxes while the two wars, and other government expansion, was happening.  Did they really think this was not going to explode the deficit??  Oh right, it was all that economic growth we were going to get which would keep the debt down, I forgot!!

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by: statsguy @ Wed Aug 05, 2009 at 09:28:17 AM CDT

Not the only problem (0.00 / 0)

CARS has some deficiencies (that may actually be addressed in the Senate version of the expansion on the table), like its upper middle class tilt and the fairly weak MPG savings on the private fleet--but for what it was, it was the most schockingly effective govt's program in a long time. Contrast it with the foreclosure protection attempts, which didn't contemplate banks deciding they were better off foreclosing anyway.

What I'd like someone to tackle next is this developing meme among the mouth breathers on Web 2.0, that government health care is unconstitutional. Now THAT is brainstem-less!

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by: torridjoe @ Wed Aug 05, 2009 at 09:38:50 AM CDT

But (0.00 / 0)

It's still not as dumb, I mean awesome, as:
1) Obama can't speak without a prompter
2) Obama is not a citizen.  

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by: tremayne @ Wed Aug 05, 2009 at 10:23:10 AM CDT

... (4.00 / 1)

"michelle's arms are bare"
"if Obama took 6 months to decide on a puppy, how could health care be done in just 2"
tire pressure gauges
his surgeon general is too fat to be SG
don't let the government get its hands on medicare (said by Laffer no less)

I'm thinking we need a blog to catalog all the sub-amoeba level stupidity still coming out of the right wing puke funnel.  It hasn't slowed in the slightest since being clubbed by the electorate, if anything, the stupity is accelerating toward some kind of singularlity of moronism.

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by: Daniel De Groot @ Wed Aug 05, 2009 at 10:54:27 AM CDT

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I tend to think (4.00 / 3)

that letting Republicans attack and Democrats parry tends to help them, not us, regardless of how foolish the initial attacks are or how devastating the parries are.  I'd rather the Dems were doing things that put them on the defensive.  It's odd that the side that has more power and is more popular and whose policy preferences have greater support refuses to do so.  

Things like "don't let the government get its hands on medicare" are only possible because Democrats stopped making a positive case for this and other social insurance programs decades ago. That meant no one was making that case to most Americans.  We could have been using Medicare and Social Security as positive examples of the good government and the Democratic Party can do for people, which would have made sense given that those programs are wildly popular.  It's time to make that case.  

Support a Pennsylvania Progressive for Governor - Joe Hoeffel

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by: David Kaib @ Wed Aug 05, 2009 at 12:24:02 PM CDT

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the stupidity IS accelerating (0.00 / 0)

And that is by design. It's called the "flypaper strategy." When I worked (very briefly, fortunately) in the seminar business, the primary strategy for getting people to register for "get rich quick" themed seminars was to make all sorts of outrageous claims in your marketing and then "see whatever sticks." That's what this is all about, and the stupid TV media is falling for it hook-line-and-sinker.

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by: jeffbinnc @ Wed Aug 05, 2009 at 13:32:42 PM CDT

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I think it's hilarious (0.00 / 0)

Let the GOP think & announce "Cash for Clunkers" is a failure - I believe the public knows otherwise - it only adds the GOP's vacuousness and lack of credibility.

My condolences for choosing to put up with Chris Matthews and his braindead show.

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by: alyosha @ Wed Aug 05, 2009 at 11:55:43 AM CDT

Smerconish and his ilk don't have to make rational claims (0.00 / 0)

Their followers won't demand rationality from them. And most "journalists" say it's "not their job" to check the veracity of what people say. The purpose of these right-wing talking heads like Smerconish is just to say whatever they can to reinforce a broad theme that has no basis in reality but appeals to the emotional firings of the reptile brain.

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by: jeffbinnc @ Wed Aug 05, 2009 at 13:40:39 PM CDT