Republicans who Voted for Sotomayor and Lessons for Health Care, etc.

by: tremayne

Thu Aug 06, 2009 at 16:56


Sonia Sotomayor was confirmed by the Senate with all Democrats (minus the ailing Ted Kennedy) supporting her as well as nine Republicans. There has been on ongoing assumption that Republicans are united on everything as demonstrated by the House's unanimous anti-stimulus vote earlier this year. So why did Sotomayor pick up nine Republican votes? Several reasons. 

1. Four Republicans who are not seeking reelection voted to confirm her: Judd Gregg, Kit Bond, Mel Martinez and George Voinovich. If you don't have to worry about the crazy right fringe and fundraising you might actually cast a vote based on what you think is right.

2. The Maine Senators, Susan Collins and Olympia Snowe, voted for her. They represent a very blue state (Obama +17) and would have a hard time explaining the vote, especially to women and, perhaps, minorities (although not a large Hispanic population there).

3. Dick Lugar voted for her. He has always been more moderate and is close with Obama.

4. That leaves two Senators which may seem surprising: Lindsay Graham of South Carolina and Lamar Alexander of Tennessee. Surprising until you consider this news item: South Carolina has the fastest growing Hispanic population in the nation followed by the number two state, Tennessee. Strength in numbers.

Similar dynamics will come into play for health care reform, climate change legislation, etc.  The retiring Senators, even without compromises, may be less influenced by campaign contributions and right-wing pressure. The Maine Senators probably want to be reelected and that could be difficult in an Obama+17 state if one or the other cast the deciding vote against a major bill. And local considerations could also lead to a Senator or representative to break from the pack.

The point is, once again, write the best health care bill possible (and the other issues) and put it up for a vote. Don't assume unanimity on the GOP side: make them cast the difficult vote.

UPDATE: And good luck to Republican Senator John Kyl on getting reelected in 2012. More than a third of the state of Arizona will be Hispanic then, Obama will be running for reelection and Kyl only took 53% in 2006 when the Hispanic population was still in the 20s percentage-wise. He voted against Sotomayor and basically called her a liar who's answers lacked substance. 

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Actually .. he hasn't ... (0.00 / 0)
3. Dick Lugar voted for her. He has always been more moderate and is close with Obama.

for some reason ... Obama gets along well with Lugar .. don't know why(although I am sure there are reasons) .. but Lugar has never been a moderate ... unless a moderate is someone who votes like a wingnut .. but doesn't say anything bad in public about Obama


well (4.00 / 1)
Progressive Punch has him rated, right now, as the 6th "least conservative" Republican Senator. That doesn't include today's vote which will probably put him in the top 5. My memory is that, for a Republican, he's been more moderate, at least on certain issues.

Here's their chart:

http://progressivepunch.org/me...



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Getting more moderate (4.00 / 1)
Lugar votes progressively 30.3% of the time this session and 15.56% of the time in the clutch.  In this session, he's the fourth most moderate Republican, That's a better ranking and the scores are considerably better than his career marks.  

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It's the Hagel-Lugar foreign policy angle (4.00 / 1)
Obama is in sync with them on most FP issues. Granted this issue is a domestic one. But this, I think, explains much of their simpatico.

The liberal soul shall be made fat. He who waters shall be watered also himself. (Proverbs 11:25)

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Or it could just be that their personalities mesh. (4.00 / 2)
I've got Republican friends.  I think they're insane and they know it, but they're still likeable enough folks and, for some odd reason, they seem to feel the same way about me.  I don't see why Obama/Lugar would be any different.

Check out Blue Arkansas:
http://bluearkansas.blogspot.com/


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But neither Lugar nor Hagel are insane (4.00 / 1)
I think that yes, they have compatible "thoughtful"-type personalities, but I also think that many of their FP ideas mesh and he just respects them as politicians and people, even if he doesn't agree with them on everything. I have no problem liking and being friends with Repubs or conservatives, even if we disagree on many things, so long as they're sane, intelligent, honest and civil, and reality-based. Not many of those these days, though. Most have long since become Dems, or indies.

The liberal soul shall be made fat. He who waters shall be watered also himself. (Proverbs 11:25)

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Bond is the one that I don't get (4.00 / 3)
He's pretty out there on the far-right fringe. Perhaps he doesn't want to make it harder for whoever's running to replace him in the GOP to get elected, in a soft red swing state? I assume that MO has a significant Hispanic population? Or, perhaps, it's part of some 11D quid pro quo with Obama over his FISA vote, which Bond was a key promotor of?

In any case, the pundits are being predictably dense over how this will hurt the GOP. It's not the vote against Sotomayor itself that's the problem, but the accusations that she's a stupid racist woman who's captive to her unhinged liberal emotions that will hurt them.

As it should.

The liberal soul shall be made fat. He who waters shall be watered also himself. (Proverbs 11:25)


Adios John Kyl (4.00 / 1)
2012 won't be a year with a lot of pickups, but I think we can get the seats in Arizona and Nevada, and maybe India if Lugar retires.  Do we have any good, reasonably progressive options that fit the state we can run?  Pastor and Grijalva may be a little too old, and Giffords and Kirkpatrick are both a little too conservative for my tastes.  What about Phoenix Mayor Phil Gordon?  Any others?

Check out Blue Arkansas:
http://bluearkansas.blogspot.com/


The guy who ran against Kyl was okay (4.00 / 1)
Last go round against Kyl, the Dems put up a halfway decent candidate in Pederson, a real estate developer. House members like Mitchell also might be candidates. I never got Kyl or the reason he'd be electable in a state that already had McCain.

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LOL (0.00 / 0)
We may pickup a Senate seat in India? Now THAT is outsourcing lol.  

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I'd be surprised if Kyl even runs (0.00 / 0)
Kyl can read demographics, too.  My guess is this means he will retire.  The way he is voting now is probably to win favor with whomever will set him up with a cushy private sector gig come 2012.  Or maybe sooner if he wants to resign before the end of his term.

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