There Is No Backup

by: Chris Bowers

Tue Aug 18, 2009 at 12:37


One of the key elements to the Progressive Block strategy on health care is that it was developed jointly by the Congressional Progressive Caucus and the progressive netroots. It was neither a strategy handed down to the netroots from on high, nor was it a random proposal cooked up in a comment thread. The idea bubbled up from both groups, in discussions on blogs, email lists and Hill meetings, until it was jointly adopted by the Congressional Progressive Caucus and netroots organizations like Democracy for America and Fire Dog Lake.

This co-equal development of the Progressive Block strategy has the advantage of tremendous buy-in from both groups. Because neither the progressive netroots nor the CPC had to spend most of their efforts convincing the other group to be involved, we could spend most of our time diving right into the organizing.

The fruits of that organizing are now becoming clear. After signals that the public option was about to be thrown under the bus, once again it was saved by a group of 64 members of the House declaring they will vote against any health care reform legislation that does not include a robust public option.  This group is reinforced by the thank you calls from netroots activists, expressing their gratitude to those 64 Representatives for their principled, gutsy, vital stance.  The end result of this is that the Progressive Block has prevented the public option from being dropped from congressional health care negotiations. In fact, the Progressive Block is right now the only reason the public option has not already been dropped.

As exciting as this is, it is also extremely nerve-wracking to realize that, right now, those of us involved in the fight are the last line of defense for the public option.  A few netroots organizations, the Congressional Progressive Caucus, and a dedicated corps of netroots activists are the only ones holding the key section of the line in this fight.  While there are other people engaged in the fight, there is no back-up for us in the position we are occupying. If the Progressive Block caves, then the public option is simply not going to happen.

As frustrating as Democratic and progressive leaders have often been in key fights, there was always a comfort in being able to critique their efforts and tactics from a distance. In this fight, we don't have that luxury, because we are the leadership. There is no backup.

I am not writing this to either pat ourselves on the back, or to use scare tactics to agitate people into action. This is simply my honest appraisal of the situation. We have to work to keep the Progressive Block together at all costs. Today, that means thanking the 64 members of the House who have said they will vote against health care legislation unless it includes a robust public option. Go to the Democracy for America website, and send off a thank you letter. We can still win this fight, but only if we do everything we can to make Conservadems easier for the Democratic leadership to pressure than the Progressive Block.

Write a thank you letter to a member of the Progressive Block.

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There Is No Backup | 18 comments
The public should better not hear that! (0.00 / 0)
Even though Dem voters sure are irritated about the low public profile of the president in the healthcare reform, they sure cling to the impression that he is secretly pulling the strings behind the screens in order to ensure a public option. That in fact the whole "change" thing consists of only the progressive caucus and their supporters sure would be a dire disappointment for the unsuspecting public.
:-|

Let it be said by our children's children that when we were tested, we refused to let this journey end, that we did not turn back, nor did we falter

Go on the offense (4.00 / 3)
Get people to start appearing on television and advocating for medicare for all.  All things considered I think it would have a real shot of gaining Republican support and the insurance industry will be begging for the public option if that starts gaining ground.

Defending always makes you nervous and it is never really a good position to be in.  

So go on the offense.

http://transgendermom.blogspot....


I kind of like this, and it will help on the eventual work necesary to pass single payer as the next step. (0.00 / 0)
I would like, and I suppose I'll get attacked, if it attacked the Insurance companies as opposed to some combination of Obama is a sell-out loser working for the CIA and that's why we cant have everything now.

He is still saying Public Option, against so much of the old elite, I would love to reward Obama, just like the heroes in congress. Disagreeing with the way he pushes isn't the same as saying he is the second W.

Medicare for all! The Public Option is our only compromise. Health Reform now.

I really want to think a little longer into the future, and the next goal, and how to achieve that. And what's being done now to prepare, and what we should do next. Next on health, and then next on everything.

Change
"We must break up the banks and never again let them get so big that they distort our politics and take down the economy.


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Be careful what you wish for? (4.00 / 3)
As frustrating as Democratic and progressive leaders have often been in key fights, there was always a comfort in being able to critique their efforts and tactics from a distance. In this fight, we don't have that luxury, because we are the leadership. There is no backup.

Just think of how long you and others have fought to make this dynamic happen.  Sure, it's kind of scary now that you are there, but this was the goal.

The next step is to actually succeed.


Here is what I don't get ... (0.00 / 0)
why has it taken so long for the Progressive caucus to realize that if they stick together ... they wield tremendous power ... especially since the Republicans are currently the party of "No!!!!"? ... They have the numbers to sink any sucky legislation .. and have the added benefit of making Obama do the right thing .. because if they stand firm .. they can make Rahm come groveling to them .. and stick it to the Blue Dogs too

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Its the difference between the voice of protest (0.00 / 0)
and the voice of responsibility.

They have realized, that it can be done, and if it can, there is a responsibility to do.

Change
"We must break up the banks and never again let them get so big that they distort our politics and take down the economy.


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Pretty easy, actually (0.00 / 0)
Imagine for a moment that the Block holds.  They get the public option to conference, but the final bill does not have it.  They stick to their word and vote against the final bill.  Obama is defeated and there is no health care bill and no one will try again for at least eight years under a new Democratic president.

See the difference between the Progressive Block and the Blue Dogs?  When the Blue Dogs defeat a bill they feel better about themselves.  If the Progressive Block actually defeats the bill there will be tons of soul searching and much regret.  After all, we had such a block in the 70's under Nixon and that is one of the reasons we don't have universal health care today.

We are playing a game of chicken, only the other guys are drunk where we are sober with a baby in the car.

Don't get me wrong, I do think this is a good strategy; at least for this situation right now.  But don't fool yourself it is without risk.


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Of course it has risks ... (0.00 / 0)
but the problem is .. will Obama corral the Blue Dogs .. and in effect .. tell them to swallow the bitter pill .. or will that happen to the Progressives ... in the past .. its the Progressivees that have been made to swallow the bitter pill .. it's not time for the Blue Dogs to swallow that bitter pill

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Overestimating (0.00 / 0)
I think you are way overestimating the power of the presidency.  There is no reason to believe Obama has the power to tell anyone to do anything.

In reality it is pretty obvious that Obama will try to get everyone to compromise and produce a bill that will pass.  Any compromise agreed upon will have his final approval.


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re (0.00 / 0)
I think you are way overestimating the power of the presidency.  There is no reason to believe Obama has the power to tell anyone to do anything.

doesn't obama control the dnc? can't he cut off the money for someone and give it to his/her primary opponent?


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Reality will set in... (0.00 / 0)
Having the Progressives stick together will most assuredly kill health care reform because public support for public option is declining, not gaining.  If its in any final bill for the Senate, the bill will not pass.  This will have long term consequences for the Democratic Party and the Presidency, and it will mean years of Republican rule again.  Face reality folks...liberals and progressives make up a small minority of the overall Democratic Party, and you are cutting off your nose to spite your face to not at least go for incremental gains this year in health care reform to start helping people.  Every other issue of importance to us in the Democratic Party will go out the window with a weakened President and Democratic Congress.  So when you are on here whining about all the other things we can't do, don't forget that not allowing reasonable legislation to pass this year may make you feel personally great, but it does nothing but show the public that the Democratic Party cannot accomplish things and rule.  Pubic option is dead and the sooner you move on from it, the better.  But be careful about taking down your President and you Party by not seeing the bigger political picture.

Throw down your values (4.00 / 3)
and join the Democratic Party in its heroic fight against the forces of ever so slightly more evil.

You talk about "every other issue of importance" but on every issue of importance to me, I see nothing but concession after concession.

So if you truly represent the moral and strategic heart of the Democratic Party, I must continue to repudiate said party. You can't get me to join you by telling me I must stop fighting for what I believe in, or by telling me that Kabuki fights are good enough.

Weakened President? Weakened Democratic Congress? If they can't accomplish this, they are in fact weak.  Or, their interests are not really our interests, no matter what they say to get elected.  So why again ally with them in their "every other issue of importance"?

When the Democrats concede on issues to win elections, compromises, praise from corporate pundits; it is already clear how weak they are. They have already advertised that they can be pushed around.

Democratic voters would do well to stop voting for such people.


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Throw down your values?? (0.00 / 0)
I am mature enough and wise enough from all the years of fights, to know that I don't always get everything I want, but sometimes I get 100% of it, 75% of it, or 50%.  It has nothing to do with my personal values, but everything to do with fighting the good fight and knowing that sometimes not everybody is with me.  I don't throw out the baby with the bath water, and I sure as heck know I am going to get much more of what I want from having a Democratic President and a Democratic Congress.  I refuse to contribute to weakening my President over one aspect of one legislative initiative, no matter how much I personally want it.  I want to give him some early wins, let him weather this economic storm he inherited and strengthen his overall position with the general electorate, and then allow him to go after some of the other things I want.  If I can help him get top a second term, that's where I believe the real changes will come.

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How does it not weaken your President to sign a bad bill? (4.00 / 2)


"It sounds wrong...
     ...but its right."


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As mature and wise as William Greider? (4.00 / 1)
http://www.thenation.com/doc/2...

After his brilliant beginning, the president suddenly looks weak and unreliable. That will be the common interpretation around Washington of the president's abrupt retreat on substantive heathcare reform. Give Barack Obama a hard shove, they will say, rough him up a bit and he folds. A few weeks back, the president was touting a "public option" health plan as an essential element in reform. Now he says, take it or leave it. Whatever Congress does, he's okay with that.

The White House quickly added confusion to the outrage by insisting the president didn't really say anything new. He's just being flexible. He still wants what most Democrats want--a government plan that gives people a real escape from the profit-driven clutches of the insurance companies. But serious power players will not be fooled by the nimble spinners. Obama choked. He raised the white flag, even before the fight got underway in Congress.

 

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Please provide evidence (4.00 / 3)
"This will have long term consequences for the Democratic Party and the Presidency, and it will mean years of Republican rule again."

On what basis is this true?

Conversely, why is in NOT true for the conserative Democrats and right-wing idealogues when they were blocking legislation? When the right wing blocks legislation in service to the lobbyists and coporations they are considered principled heroes. To hear you tell it, when progressives and leftists block legislation, their supporters will abandon them as failures. Why?

Its almost as is you are trying to dissuade the progressive caucus from doing what their consituents want then to do. And I mean consituents, as in the citizens they represent, not the payola artists that fund the right and center.



"It sounds wrong...
     ...but its right."


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Good Day For Health Care (4.00 / 3)
We are so focused on the public option itself we missed what Noam Scheiber points out today:

I'm almost certainly going to get in trouble for blogging on vacation, but I thought this point needed to be made and didn't see anyone making it: I have no idea whether the administration intended to shift its position on the public option over the weekend (you can make a plausible case that it didn't), and, if so, what it hoped to accomplish. But what it has accomplished seems really important and helpful. Prior to all the apoplexy on the left, the two poles of the debate were the president, who wanted a reasonable, fairly moderate set of health insurance reforms, but was nonetheless being branded a socialist or whatever, and a lot of lunatics on the right screaming about death panels and enemies lists and home invasions.

Around the conference table at TNR, we've been saying for weeks that what Obama really needed was a group of equally vocal, equally zealous critics on the left, pulling the debate's center of gravity in the other direction. And, wouldn't you know, that's exactly what's happened over the last 48 hours. We've now got a pole on the left to match the intensity of the pole on the right. (Don't get me wrong: I'm not suggesting a moral equivalence between the two. As far as I'm concerned, the critics on the left are basically right and the critics on the right are either insane or deeply cynical.) From a sheer tactical perspective, I think the White House and the Democratic leadership in Congress have dramatically improved their position.

The benefits arise both in the broader national debate and in the congressional negotiations. In the national debate, Obama now looks like the centrist voice of reason instead of an over-ambitious lefty (I'm caricaturing, of course, in the spirit of the cable-news coverage). Inside Congress, Obama may not get a public option, but if he doesn't, he was never going to get it. And now he can extract a ton of concessions in return, because he can point to a left-wing of his party that's ready to eat him alive for failing to deliver on it (whereas that left-wing outrage was largely hypothetical before now). That kind of leverage is extremely helpful.

I think that is correct.


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