on the WaPo editorial (4.00 / 1)

they sound like they're backed into a corner. The media's goal has always been to help deliver a defeat to the President, for no other reason than because it would be a great story. This editorial sounds like an act of desperation. No longer confident that the public option will be dropped, and that they'll get the epic story they all want, they have to come flat out and say "You will lose unless you do what we've been trying to do for the past couple of months"

This is telling;

If anything, the administration fanned the flames of this irrationality with its repeated statements about the importance of the public plan. Now it is paying the price.

Really?

It's also telling that when I'm looking at this editorial, on the side, an advertisement for...insurance.

Read between the lines.  

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by: DTOzone @ Thu Aug 20, 2009 at 21:35:52 PM UTC

Go away, corporate hack! (0.00 / 0)

Oh, wait, your not??

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by: Mark Matson @ Thu Aug 20, 2009 at 21:46:03 PM UTC

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I thought he is!? (0.00 / 0)

I feel confused now (must be virulent)

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by: Gray @ Thu Aug 20, 2009 at 22:13:39 PM UTC

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The times, they (4.00 / 2)

are a changing!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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by: Tom Wells @ Thu Aug 20, 2009 at 21:44:48 PM UTC

Come writers and critics (4.00 / 3)

Who prophesize with your pen
And keep your eyes wide
The chance won't come again
And don't speak too soon
For the wheel's still in spin
And there's no tellin' who
That it's namin'.
For the loser now
Will be later to win
For the times they are a-changin'.

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by: Gray @ Thu Aug 20, 2009 at 22:15:44 PM UTC

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I cannot support all CPC members across the board. They are not all alike. (0.00 / 0)

For instance, Emanuel Cleaver of Missouri, only a day or two ago, said that he is willing to "push the reset button" on insurance reform (Which he called healthcare") because he "said health care reform is "too important" to be passed with only Democratic votes, as White House chief of staff Rahm Emanuel has recently suggested."

And look, Donna Edwards, a netroots favortie, has gone back and forth on the PO so many times, it's like she's playing pong with herself.

I will donate to the fifteen members of the CPC who have gone on camera and taken a pledge to suport at public option and further, to vote down any bill that doesn't have a public option.

Once a health insurance reform bill is passed that has a public option I will donate money to any member of the CPC that voted for it (or, again, any member that voted down a bill that didn't contain a P.O).

To give the members of the CPC money up front is just giving Lucy the football to hold, again.

To repeat, I will donate, this evening, to the 15 CPC members who have signed a pledge to support the public option, the rest can have my money when they sign the pledge, or after the right bill goes through.

ymmv

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by: El Gato Negro @ Thu Aug 20, 2009 at 23:20:02 PM UTC

Harry Reid (0.00 / 0)

We need devise a strategy to pressure Harry Reid to force a filibuster on this issue. A true filibuster. Are Conrad and Baucus really willing to filibuster on the Senate floor against something that almost every democrat in the country wants? Senator Reid needs to call  their bluff. His latest idea of splitting the bill up is totally asinine.

Somehow we need to get him to step up.

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by: dorf @ Fri Aug 21, 2009 at 02:49:48 AM UTC

Filibuster is already happening (0.00 / 0)

if Republicans have the votes to sustain a filibuster, they'll file a cloture motion, if we already have 60+ votes, they won't even bother like they did with Sotomayor.

More importantly we need to make sure we have 60 votes for cloture...and nag every Democratic Senator and even a couple of Republicans, to vote for cloture.

This bill is pretty much already being filibustered...now is the time to go about the country and point out that Senators are keeping much needed healthcare reform from passing and shame them into voting for cloture.

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by: DTOzone @ Fri Aug 21, 2009 at 04:24:37 AM UTC

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