I Have an Idea for Stopping Foreclosures

by: donnydonny

Tue Aug 25, 2009 at 00:09


As we all know, the Senate screwed us over in the spring when they took the enforcement mechanism, cramdown, out of Obama's carrot-and-stick plan for stopping foreclosures. Not surprisingly, the plans signed into law without cramdown isn't working. The big bailed-out banks are still taking homes away from people who would have been able to afford them if the bankers had wrecked the economy, and record numbers of families are going homeless.

I have an idea for helping out some of these people and cramming down their mortgage principals that doesn't require legislation. I'm interested to hear your thoughts, see if you all think this is workable and worth pursuing...

The idea, which I'm thinking of as "community cramdowns," is to organize big crowds of citizens and activists, backed by support from local credit unions and alternative banking institutions, to go to foreclosure auctions, buy peoples homes and then give them back to them. The key here is that people would have to keep out other potential bidders. This would require forming an intimidating crowd at the scene of the auction to prevent other interested investors from placing their bids. Hundreds of people, lots of signs and a message of compassion for the struggling homeowners would likely prevent most interested buyers from participating in the auction.

After the home is purchased, it's given back to the original homeowner with a new mortgage from the community credit union at the new, lower principal with fair rates that they will be able to pay back. Just like any other transaction like this, the homeowners would have to show proof of income and display under penalty of perjury that they can afford the new mortgage. This kind of arrangement should work for the same crowd of homeowners that judicial cramdowns would have worked for.

The Farmers' Holiday Association did something like this successfully during the Great Depression with farms that were being foreclosed on. Obviously, there is a lot to be worked out in how to make this work with homes in 2009. But it seems, to me, possible and like the kind of thing we need to be taking on by ourselves given the way our government is completely bought out by the big banks.

Please add your thoughts in the comments. Tell me why this is a stupid idea (or a good one, if it is)...

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That's not a valid QuickHit! (0.00 / 0)
This is purely your own opinion, it doesn't contain any news, and it's too long. So, this should have been posted as a diary. You seemed to have missed Chris recently demanding us not to misuse QHs for this. Pls don't do this again, ok?

sorry (0.00 / 0)
I'm 90% sure I posted this as a diary, and it looks to me like it appeared as one. Sorry if it some how got on the quick hits list.  

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Ah, I see. But that's strange. (0.00 / 0)
Can the system screw this up? Or was it my browser? I didn't scroll down, it was up at the page, under the donate button. Hmm...

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Also,your idea may even be illegal. (0.00 / 0)
"This would require forming an intimidating crowd at the scene of the auction"
Horrible idea.
Don't be surprised if this will be deleted, if Chris notices this.

Looked this up, this may be extortion. And that's a federal crime... (0.00 / 0)
...under the RICO act:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/E...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/R...

I mean, come on, if the mafia would send thugs to intimidate people at paublic auctions, in order to buy properties at the lowest prices possible, you sure would call this a crime. And where's the difference if your activist crowd does the same? Prosecutors aren't likely to see this in a different way.

Really, I'm quite surprised that you didn't immediately see the problem in this...


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Looks like it already happened. (0.00 / 0)
It's not in the QH list anymore. So, repost this as a diary, if you like. But I would recommend you to think of another idea than an "intimidating crowd". We're liberals, not mobsters.

Hmm did Chris move this into diaries, or am I totally confused now? (0.00 / 0)
Strange. I'm 99,99% sure it was in QHs. Didn't know Chris can move QHs including all comments.

Whatever, now it's at the right place. But the "intimidating crowd" is still a bad idea. Speculators won't let themselves be forced out of auctions easily. It's very likely they will come with bodyguards and maybe even groups of thugs. Really, nothing good can come out of the "crowd" idea.And there's several other problems with this, too:

- Many of the house in floreclosure where bought by speculators, so called "flippers". You certainly don't want to bail out them and reward them for their gambling, which drove the prices up?
- But if you don't bail out everybody, someone has to make decisions. This opens the whole thing to conflicts of interest, favor trading, and outright fraud. Just look at the fights inside HOAs! This would be even worse.
- To give the home back to the original owner certainly isn't always a good idea. What about the renters, who moved in good faith, and are now suprised by foreclosure? Don't they have a better ethical case than their landlord?
- Also, many of the owners will be totally unable to pay for any mortgage, not even one that is only half as big. What to do in those cases? Make them renters? But some of them jumped at a chance to "own" a house they couldn't even realistically afford to rent. You want to reward them for being unrealistic, even irresponsible?
- Who will pay for the mortgage if the owners have no chance to get ANY credit, because of a ruined credit rating, or even bankruptcy ? Will the groups have to turn into realtors, holding the property? Who's gonna pay for this?
- There's money to be made with buying low and selling high at a later point. If the self help groups hold some of the properties, those will eventually be sold. Who is going to pocket that money? Again, an open invitation to profiteering and fraud.

Just some quick arguments that show this concept comes with some dire problems. I'm sure a specialist on this field would find many more. So, sry, but imho this isn't really thought through yet. It's an interesting starting point, but much work has to be put into this to make it a usable concept.


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I see you also posted this at DKos (0.00 / 0)
http://www.dailykos.com/story/...

And while the folks there pointed out the "renter" problem that I noticed, too, I'm speechless that nobody so far has any problems with your idea of the "intimidating crowd". Strange ethics!  


Your idea requires solidarity to work (0.00 / 0)
which is in short supply in America.

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