The Public Option Hasn't Delayed Anything

by: Chris Bowers

Tue Sep 01, 2009 at 10:30


Even though the national media narrative is now portraying the public option as the focal point of the debate on health care reform, that debate hasn't held up health insurance reform by even a single day.  Instead of the public option, it is the process focus on bipartisanship, and negotiating with bad-faith Republicans, that is the hold-up. Consider the following:

  • Five Congressional committees--three in the House and two in the Senate--have been given purview over health insurance reform legislation. Four of those committees have passed a health insurance reform bill. The only one to not pass a bill is the Senate Finance Committee.

  • All four bills to pass committee have a public option. The one committee expected not to report a public option is the one that hasn't passed a bill. As such, the public option is not the source of this delay.

  • Of the 65+ members of Congress who have threatened to vote against health care reform legislation without a public option, not a single one of them sits on the Senate Finance committee. The Progressive Block is not the source of this delay.

  • Not a single Republican voted for any of the four bills to pass a Congressional committee so far. The only committee where Republicans are being given equal negotiating power is the one that hasn't passed a bill. As such, it seems that Republicans are holding up the bill, not the public option or the Progressive Block.
Whatever attention the debate on the public option is drawing, the variable holding up health insurance reform is the degree of bipartisanship sought in the process by the Senate Finance Committee. It is a focus on bipartisan process is holding up health insurance reform, not the public option.
Chris Bowers :: The Public Option Hasn't Delayed Anything
This is hardly surprising, given that the Republican negotiators are, once again, acting in bad faith. Charles Grassley, the lead Republican negotiator, is raising money off of his attempt to defeat health care reform altogether. Mike Enzi, one of the three Republican negotiators, is bragging that he is the reason nothing has passed. Not that anyone could have predicted they would act in bad faith.

Even if Republicans are understood to be bad faith negotiators when viewed as a whole, many will argue that it is necessary to make a lasting, good-faith, public effort to negotiate with them anyway. Otherwise, Democrats will take a hit when they inevitably have to go it alone on health care.

That might be the case, but it is only true if you assume that the electorate cares about political process stories. That is a difficult assumption to prove, given that not a single national priorities poll has ever shown that more than 2% of the country considers bipartisanship to be a top goal for elected officials in D.C. to address. If the country cared about bipartisanship and political process, they would have told us so in open-ended national priorities polls. They haven't done so, and yet Democrats continue to allow a focus on bipartisan political process to derail health insurance reform anyway. It is hard to imagine that is helping our approval ratings.


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This article, and a quickhit suggest a national ad campaign (4.00 / 1)
Hat tip to metamars for the quickhit. And I accept the implied criticism of our push back against the wackowacko anti health reform nuts (see I did it again!)
Here's metamars excellent quickhit to set the parameters

You won't win the healthcare debate by calling people stupid racists
metamars
Subtitle: Elite right-wing foes of healthcare reform are telling lies. The folks listening to them are mostly just scared
   To the extent Democrats resist, it's mainly on Web sites like the invaluable Media Matters for America. What's needed, however, is a strong counter-narrative informing voters that they're being had: conned, tricked and manipulated by, yes, New York, Washington and Hollywood "media elites" who lie for money. Vulgar? You bet. It's called "populism," and it once dominated the very states where talk-radio bombast now holds sway.

   No, the argument can't be won overnight. On the other hand, it can't be won at all by calling people stupid racists.

(emphasis metamars)

because thats on the money. Chris Bowers excellent point, that the Health Insurance Companies and their allies are funding a massive disinformation campaign, somethimes completely under the radar on channels we dont watch or sent directly to the door, to scare the living shit out of people who are already afraid. Some of it is to justify the actions as Chris Bowers describes here, of just stopping any changes top the cash machiones that fire hose money into Health Insurance Industry bank accounts, and partly to stop any legislative actions Obama and elected Democrats may have thought necessary or possible.

What this suggests to me is a national ad campaign that says just that. "These people are paying for these lies to scare the shit of these people."

This is actionable, this is powerful, this is part of the theme of getting Obama elected in the first place, "not this time, not this election" -it is protection for the Party and reform ongoing, it is worthwhile for future reform efforts, its protection against the fear meme crap. It could also give the MSM something other than hairbrained lies to talk about.


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F.A.I.R. (0.00 / 0)
FAIR is on the case.

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While I appreciate the work, brilliant necessary work, of determining (4.00 / 1)
the linkages and reporting them. I would bet that less than .001% of the public is aware of that report.

That report needs to be the facts behind a visual well made tv spot, something like this:

Scene showing angry, confused concerned people milling moving without direction holding signs,

voice over "Someone is spreading fear"

close up of a face that is  loudly asking a question? or making a point but silent

"Someone is telling lies about health reform"

Still black and white Images showing a corporate printing house, showing money changing hands showing men is suits laughing.

rolling text of freddomworks etc. expenditures and donations

VO "They are lying to protect the the status quo because it makes them so much money"

rolling text of Insurance corporate profits

image of a family on their front lawn,

VO
"families in America want Health Reform with a public insurance option so everyone is covered"

text Everyone covered affordably.

30 seconds

I am sure soemone can do better than that.


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The government has a defect: it's potentially democratic. Corporations have no defect: they're pure tyrannies. -Chomsky


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Don't take this comment the wrong way (0.00 / 0)
I think it is vital that my fellow citizens be more fully informed as to the reality of the healthcare situation and why reform is necessary.

But, I think the idea of calling out the "opponents" as liars (as accurate as that label may be) will play in the public sphere as a continuation of the shouting match. Like two kids on the playground, calling each other "liar!". If the people don't trust their government, or those supporting healthcare reform, what makes you think they'll believe you when you call their "leaders" liars?

If the pro-reform coalition wants to confront the lies - debunk them. Don't get destracted by an argument about which side lies more than the other.


"It sounds wrong...
     ...but its right."


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I do not take it the wrong way. (4.00 / 1)
Thanks for the warning, but you made your point very well. Obama made the point well during the election though. he did have debunkers, the fast hit squad, making good points and getting them to the airwaves quickly and well. But he also made the points that this is happening, this untruths, this scattershot fearmongering and issue sidelining was not going to happen "Not this time"

In fact I would say that his anti-swiftboat stands were VERY effective.

Health Reform is being swiftboated.

A national anti swiftboat message needs to be made strongly.

It could include Obama from the campaign saying, again, Not this time, the issues are too important," etc.

It worked during the election, it was appreciated, it was a motivator, it was a truth teller. leadership is appreciated, honesty is appreciated.

We need to counter the Health Insurance Industries Swiftboating of health reform JUST AS EFFECTIVELY as swiftboating was fought during the campaign.


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The government has a defect: it's potentially democratic. Corporations have no defect: they're pure tyrannies. -Chomsky


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Regarding more effective rhetoric (0.00 / 0)
While I may often ask myself "What would George Galloway say?", In this case, it may well be better to ask "What would FDR say?" I think what's needed is not just a "debunk", but a rebuke - something with a punch to it.

So, if using one of the "L" words (liar, lies) is too much, there are still alternatives that have more of a bite than something like "silly season (in politics)". See this quick hit.

I'd also like to see sharper rhetoric aimed at Obama, but fact-based, and more substantial than "charges" of socialism. If the public wants a socialized medical care system, at least as an option, I don't see why this criticism (of "socialism") shouldn't be mocked, openly. I have a conservative aunt, whose father was murdered by a Communist for the crime of singing a pro-royalist song, who also is a nurse, and she has said for decades that we should have socialized medicine. And she doesn't gag when says that.

Hopefully, some day we will have more honest debates, which can rely on careful analyses of which branches of government in the US are efficient, and which aren't.* We really have both situations, so concern about a potential boondogle are not, a priori, without merit.

I had also suggested that Obama directly challenge Senators to a debate, from which I expect them all to slink away. A bit risky, since the legislation(s) are so long, but if Obama could pull it off effectively, it would also create a very visible (and free) opportunity to punch back.

* Not to mention which foreign systems, that we might seek to emulate, work and which don't. I had a conversation with a local owner of a health food store, who was quite politically active. She fought hard to keep hospitals open, and also went around the world doing research on healthy supplements.

She's also dead-set against socialized medicine, and had horror stories (regarding waits that could easily be fatal, and the lack of advanced equipment which would have allowed for brain surgery that would not involve removing the top of the skull) from her native Portugal to back up her belief.

So, we need to make sure that we get something like the foreign systems in Michael Moore's Sicko, and not like Portugal. (Or Greece, where I heard from a friend that they had cockroaches in their public hospitals, circa 1995!)

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I agree with you (0.00 / 0)
I was commenting specifically on the kind of ad campaign suggested by HOP.

Clearly, the President calling out and rebuking the "liars" in public forum is not in the same class as an ad campaign run by some other organization. Unfortunately, I don't think we can depend on Mr. Obama to do such.

I agree, too, that a number of the lies and misconceptions of the opponent's side need to be mocked. But I'm unconvinced that a national TV ad campaign is the best venue for such. That's a job of those on the ground and on the inner tubes.  

"It sounds wrong...
     ...but its right."


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More directly on "The Public Option Hasn't Delayed Anything" (0.00 / 0)
and the fact that its time to start acting.

The public doesnt care bi-partisan is true, but someone cares, and thats Versailles. Vesailles is the entire group of self important media fops, who like the courtiers of the Sun King in the 1600's France mimic and parade their "importance by association", and they like to pretend that by association they too rule autocratically.

As luck or planning would have it, they have accepted, or started to accept, the bewigged handkerchief wielding editorial board has, as storied here at openleft, seen the Obama outreach, found it sufficient, and has said now is the time to act.

But they have, and the process is completed, and the passing of reform is now called for.

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The government has a defect: it's potentially democratic. Corporations have no defect: they're pure tyrannies. -Chomsky


HB 3200 (0.00 / 0)
the house bill has a puny public option, that only covers a few million of the poorest of the uninsured and does not kick in until 2013. The Senate HELP bill is even worse. Advocates of the public option need to explain what the proposals presently made really offer, because it is nothing like the public option Obama campaigned on.

You seem to have answered your question before asking it (0.00 / 0)
First you stated what the public option does, then you asked other people to explain it. Are you literally asking a question, or using the question to add rhetoric to your overall point?

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robust public option (0.00 / 0)
netroots, HCAN, and others have been talking about a robust public option. I think many people think that what will be offered is that anyone can buy into it who wants to. Well nothing like that has been proposed.  

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Obama ran on a public option? (0.00 / 0)
Obama ran on a mandate system and rule reform. Obama said vefore he ran for Senate, that he liked the single payer system, but hasnt supported that or a public option, until it was forced on him by the pledge block, the progressive caucus.

If you have links to campaign materials that talked about that, it would help us move forard, but really, his position has moved left of healthcare since taking office, not right.

The final Bill will be negotiated, whenit gets to the floor of the house, when it gets to the floor of the senate, and whent hey both gewt to reconcilliation.

If you think there are changes that need to be made, this is where the fight is. We need to set up a dialogue with the progressive block, or find a channle of disicussion, or set up a=n experts panel on exactly these finnishes to the final conference committee.

Do we have any idea who will be doing the final negotiations on conference BTW...?

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The government has a defect: it's potentially democratic. Corporations have no defect: they're pure tyrannies. -Chomsky


[ Parent ]
Obama opposed (4.00 / 2)
a mandate to force people to buy health insurance.  In Iowa, he even used that position to attack Hillary.

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Right right, you are right. I conflated. (0.00 / 0)
I conflated Hillary's and Obama's position.

But it makes my point even more strongly, Obama has been shoved left on Health reform, just as Hillary would have had to be. He has not come far enough, and it is time for him to pick up Excalibur and say "The watery bint has given me power to govern, and we will have a robust public option and all will be covered affordably!!" While Rahm clicks coconut shells together behind him so we know he's on a horse.

We have taken us this far. Citizens demanding, citizen supporting the progressive block, bloggers and angry lassies and lads demanding real reform, single payer activists included.

Obama has come with us, a little, not away from us, was my point.

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The government has a defect: it's potentially democratic. Corporations have no defect: they're pure tyrannies. -Chomsky


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It's Just Blaming The Victim, Once Again (0.00 / 0)
Only instead of it being a rape victim, or a laid-off worker, it's a key piece of policy that's vital to solving the problem.

But the logic and psychology are exactly the same.

"You know what they say -- those of us who fail history... doomed to repeat it in summer school." -- Buffy The Vampire Slayer, Season 6, Episode 3


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