Realignment--Iraq, Populist Economics, What Will It Take?

by: Paul Rosenberg

Sat Sep 22, 2007 at 14:37


[Yes, Virginia, I've been asked to frontpage on the weekends.]

While I dared to dream of a Democratic landslide last year a little earlier than most, I started talking about about realignment just the month before the election.  I wrote a post, "What A Dem Landslide Could Mean," in which I argued that political realignments happen when one party wins two consecutive wave elections in the House, It always starts in the House, though the timing of the Presidential election that gets all the glory can vary.  In 1896, in fact, the Republicans actually lost a fair number of seats-but nothing compared to what they'd gained in 1892 and 1894.

Yesterday, there were two posts here that touched on the issue of realignment, which made me think it was time to write about it again.  Then Chris invited me to start front-paging on weekends, so the opportunity seemed perfect-even if one of the posts was by Chris, and I probably disagree with it more than anything he's posted in months.  But that's fine, because Chris's post is clearly part of a thinking-through process, and what I have to contribute here is part of that same process.

The first post is Chris's "It Is Either Iraq Blurring Strategy Or Iraq Realignment" and the second is David Sirota's "1994 Redux: The Consequences of Dems' New NAFTA".  While I agree with a lot of the points made in both posts, I think that both contain some errors in perceiving the nature of realignment, what it takes to acheive, and what the possibilities for it are.  This post will open up that discussion, and I'll continue it in a couple of follow-up diaries this weekend.

Paul Rosenberg :: Realignment--Iraq, Populist Economics, What Will It Take?
Realignment On The War?

The big picture background for this is the recognition that despite the wave election we won last time, there is still a governing conservative coalition, a somewhat morphed version of the conservative coalition
of Republicans and Southern Democrats that stymied any major liberal policy initiatives between 1938 and 1964. The new conservative coalition has been discussed for a couple of months here at OpenLeft.

Then, beginning on September 10, Chris wrote a series of diaries on what he called "The Iraq Blurring Strategy".  At first he was very worried that the Democrats' lack of clarity, courage and commitment-even more than their lack of success-would allow the GOP (especially endgangered moderates in the House and Senate)  to blur the issue next year, and escape the voters' wrath:

This strategy would keep the working conservative majority in power not by ending the war, but by making it appear that it wants to end the war.

Now, however, Chris has come to believe that it's just not possible.  The voters are too fed up.  What they want is not anything that the compromisers can offer:

However, the more I think about it, there simply is no compromise to be had on Iraq at this point within the electorate, which makes me far less worried about the blurring strategy. For the 30%ers who support the working conservative majority, even talk of making withdrawal from Iraq as a "goal" is reprehensible....

For the rest of the country, there is no compromise on Iraq, either. Mere talk of possible future withdrawal is no longer acceptable to the country. Nationwide, the particularly mendacious blurring strategy where bush and Petraeus are selling a forced end to the escalation as a voluntary withdrawal is still viewed as not going far enough by a 50-36% margin nationwide....

So far, I'm with Chris 100%.  Where we differ comes toward the end of this next passage:

So, in short, I do not think that there is any compromise to be had on Iraq, and as long as a politician attempting an Iraq blurring strategy is facing a candidate willing to call out bullshit withdrawals for what they are, I don't think the strategy will work. The country simply isn't having it, even if the media and political elite will continue to try and jam it down people's throats. This is extremely dangerous for the conservative governing majority, because when any governing majority is in the minority on the dominant issue of the day, and it is unable to compromise with the majority on that issue, it is removed from power. This is actually why the media and political elite are calling for " bi-partisan" compromise at all costs on Iraq (and other issues), because if they fail to convince the majority of the country that they have developed an acceptable compromise with them, then there will be a realignment that brings an end to the working conservative majority. [Emphasis added.]

What's wrong with this passage is two-fold: First, that getting our of Iraq is not enough.  It is merely a reactive move, and does not constittute a positive vision.  Second, however important it may be, it does not directly address the core issue of economiccs, and the distribution of wealth and power that not only drives the "war on terror," but drives our entire political process as well.  For these two reasons, the 2008 elections could well produce another wave of Democrats ousting Republicans in the House and Senate, even producing an anti-war majority in both bodies, and yet it would still not break the back of the conservative coalition-and it could well even leave us in Iraq, albeit with much smaller "residual forces."

Realignment On Economics?

The reson for this failure can be seen quite clearly in the post by David Sirota, "1994 Redux: The Consequences of Dems' New NAFTA." In it, David reminds us that it was not just the Iraq war that figured in the wave election last year, and is not the only issue on which the voters who elected a Democratic majority are being betrayed.  His latest latest weekly newspaper column for Creators Syndicate, "Over The Dead Bodies...Again" is about an expansion of NAFTA to include Peru, Colombia and Panama.  In his diary, he says:

in the interest of looking at strategy (this is, after all, the Strategery section of OpenLeft), let's take a moment and go beyond the substance of the new NAFTA as laid out in the column and look at the self-destructively insane politics behind it.

How insane?  Consider: :

While the war is the most high profile of the issues, the fight over jobs, wages, the economy and political corruption underlies everything - and is all encapsulated by the trade debate, as it was during NAFTA. And any look at polling trends show that Americans understand that NAFTA sold them out, and want a change. This is why, as I noted in the column, so many Democratic candidates ran explicitly on a promise to end NAFTA-style trade agreements.

That's why Democratic leaders' push for this new NAFTA is not just a shameless reversal of a campaign promise or a wholesale abandonment of the middle class, it is also politically dangerous because it threatens to further depress support for Democrats from Democratic and Independent voters.

Next David cites an analysis by Public Citizen that I think is flawed, as I explained in my comment.  It doesn't undermine the main thrust of David's argument, but it does add an important analytical point that matters more for the big picture.  Public Citizen argued:

"In 1994, the Democrats lost control of the House after turnout amongst labor households and non-unionized working class families declined. Polling found that upset about NAFTA's passage and specifically about local representative's support of NAFTA moved many traditional Democratic party voters to stay home on election day. The 1994 elections were remarkable in that low turnout -- not swings from Democratic to Republican party support -- decided many of the seats which switched parties on margins of fewer than 1000 votes."

In response, I cited data from the American National Election Survey that contradicted this claim.  It could still be true about voters in specific marginal districts, but it is not true of the nation at large-although that could be entirely (rather than just partially) the result of more contested elections boosting turnout overall.  Still, the national data also shows the most dramatic swing away from voting for congressional Democrats among people in the middle third of the income strata and above them, rather than those below, who shifted much less dramatically.  Here's a table I didn't include in my comment:

  Democratic  % Vote By Income Percentile 1986-1998
Year1 0 to 16 percentile2 17 to 33 percentile3 34 to 67 percentile4 68 to 95 percentile5 96 to 100 percentileAll Voters
198678.872.258.653.451.960.8
198873.562.457.355.035.158.1
199075.977.071.056.125.664.3
199270.571.060.854.230.859.4
199467.669.947.634.932.046.8
199664.266.750.537.038.348.9
199856.558.049.442.645.248.4

It is simply not credible that battleground districts could be dramatically out of sync with such a strong national trend.  The 1994 election was a seismic shift in Congressional voting, but it did not create a true ruling majority.  The House margin was extremely thin-as the Democrat's House margin is today-and the policies pushed were significantly to the right of the country as a whole (as Newt found out rather rudely, when the country reacted in outrage when he shut down the government).  Furthermore, it was a lone wave election, not followed by another.  This is not the pattern for a full realignment, but it is a very significant realigning-style shift, and looking at marginal defeats in closely-contested districts only serves to distract from this basic fact.

Looking Back To Perot

Why is this point so important?  Simple:  It's a bridge to the big picture explanation of what's really going on here regarding the realignment politics-and what's been going on since at least the 1980s.

In the book, Three's A Crowd: The Dynamics of Third Parties, Ross Perot and the Republican Resurgence by Ronald B. Rapoport and Walter J. Stone, they argue-following realignment theorist Walter Dean Burnham and others-that third parties impact American politics by articulating concerns that aren't being addressed by the political system, and creating a constituency for which the two major parties then contend.  While Clinton made an initial bid for Perot's support, it was the GOP, culminating with "Contract for America" which made the more serious and succcessful bid, which is what brought the GOP the margin they needed in 1994.  The GOP didn't really deliver on what the Perot constituency wanted, but it took a long time for this to finally sink in.  2004 was the first year that they went majority Democratic.  In contrast, the Clinton Administration's push for NAFTA was very high profile, and involved a direct confrontation with Perot-the one time that the American people got to see Al Gore debate with real ferocity and passion.

The authors show a strong correlation between the Perot vote in 1992 and the Congressional Republican vote in 1994.  Without a strong showing by Perot in 1992, the Republicans would never have taken over Congress.  But what drew poeple to Perot in the first place?  Two issues seemed to be of utmost importance:  economic nationalism-seen in the opposition to NAFTA, and the strong desire for a balanced budget.  But what's behind those issues?  I would argue that it's primarily the weakening of the New Deal economic order, and consequent rise in personal economic insecurity, and the failure of the Democrats to vigorously fight to defend it.

It's the hegemony of "free market" ideology, widely embraced by Democrats as well as Republicans, and virtually ubiquitous among the media, that is central to the problems we face.  Of course, "free market" is a heavily-loaded ideological term.  There is a world of difference between the competetive marketplace-which capitalists have always loathed because it drives down profits-and the oligopoly capitalism that has been the mainstay of those promoting this ideology until very recently, when crony capitalism has emerged as even more central and pernicious.

Thus, in my analysis, the challenge we face is to address a dominant, hegemonic ideology that favors a tiny slice of the rich at the expense of everyone else.  This is manifest in the trade deals that David Sirota writes about, it is manifest in the intense establishment resistence to single-payer, despite the obvious enormous savings involved, and it is manifest in the continuing mania for privatization, despite its failure on every front.

We need to discredit the narratives of free trade ideology and replace them with new narratives that tell of real alternatives--that the market is good servant, but a terrible master, and that democracy is more than a beauty pageant front for plutocracy.

This, For Example...

I have much more to say, but I'll leave with a teaser for the next diary.  As just mentioned, one thing that's vitally necessary to fight back is the development of counter-narratives, and journalists/author/filmmaker Naomi Klein has a new book out, The Shock Doctrine: The Rise of Disaster Capitalism.  In it, Klein argues that "free market" ideology is so wildly unpopular that it has only been possible to impose it by force, or by taking advantage of natural shocks, such as Katrina or the recent Southeast Asian tsunami.  She draws a direct parallel to the development of shock treatment, and its exploration by the CIA as a tool for brainwashing and reprogramming.

Here's a short (just under 7-minute) film synopsizing her argument, co-produced by the director of Children of Men, Alfonso Cuarón:

The Shock Doctrine Short Film
A Film by Alfonso Cuarón and Naomi Klein, directed by Jonás Cuarón.



(If you think this video should be front-paged, be patient.  It will be with my next diary.)


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good analysis (0.00 / 0)
How different do you think history would have been (in terms of Democratic politics) if Carter had passed universal health care in 1977?


Unbelievably Different (4.00 / 1)
The American people never abandoned support for the welfare state.  Medicare was barely over a decade old when Carter was President.  Universal health care for all at that time would have significantly expanded the momentum created by Medicare, and given a whole new generation of Democratic politicians--particularly the Class of 1974--a personal stake in defending a long-term political project that they had taken part in.  Uniting people and political leaders in a common cause creates a powerful bond that helps resist the sorts of attacks we've seen since then.

"You know what they say -- those of us who fail history... doomed to repeat it in summer school." -- Buffy The Vampire Slayer, Season 6, Episode 3

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asdf (0.00 / 0)
Yeah and it would have passed too. The Dems had 61 senators in 1977 and 58 until 1980. I forget when Byrd got the fillibuster rule changed to 60 votes, but even if it was after the 1978 election, you still could have gotten 3 moderate republicans (since there still was such a thing back then) to vote for UHC.

I think that was Carter's biggest mistake. 


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trade issues (4.00 / 1)
I don't think that globalized free trade has really benefitted the citizens of either First or Third World.  We need to come up with a strong, people oriented solution to the problems that globalization has introduced.

Chief amongst these problems is job security, American workers as well as those in foreign sweat shops face severe job insecurity as manufacturers seek out the lowest cost locales to conduct business.

It makes sense to assemble parts in places where the cost of living is low, but that is not the real search.  The real search is for places where they don't have to pay taxes or living wages, for places without labor laws or where such laws are not in force for fear of losing the factories.

The only answer to the problems of worker abuse is to start imposing standards on the treatment of workers for goods imported to our country.  Without some regulation by us the buyer we will continue to import cheap goods whose biggest cost is the suffering of those making the goods, and whose second biggest cost is the loss of jobs in America because such abuse of workers in illegal here.

I would propose an import duty which increases as the human rights abusers in the exporting country increase.  If they don't allow unionization either due to legal or physical threats, tax it.  If their workers work unpaid or mandatory overtime tax it.  If their workers are denied job security, tax it.  If their workers suffer in unsafe conditions, tax it.  Increased cost of doing business is the only threat that corporations listen to, so force them to listen.

We will suffer from increased cost of imported goods, but be rewarded by a return of jobs to our country and improved quality of life abroad.  Lets globalize worker protections as well as corporate operations and branding.

My job is not to represent Washington to you, but to represent you to Washington- Obama
Philly for Obama


I Don't Think It's The Only Way (0.00 / 0)
The only answer to the problems of worker abuse is to start imposing standards on the treatment of workers for goods imported to our country.

But it's a good way, and it's good that you bring it up.

Howetver, IMHO, we should also be working to strengthen international law and international instutions, such as the ILO (International Labor Organization).

The problem with your suggestion in isolation is that it leads to yet another go-it-alone approach.  Much sounder than invading Iraq, but still subject to some of the same sorts of problems--it provides an example that others can use for their own purposes, it undermines international cooperation, etc.

OTOH, a two-track approach, which develops some of the measures you talk about, but also seeks to strengthen international approaches and institutions, has the benefit that when people object to our unilateralism, we can turn around and say, "Fine. You don't like our unilateralism.  Let's sit down and negotate something we can all agree to and enforce together."

"You know what they say -- those of us who fail history... doomed to repeat it in summer school." -- Buffy The Vampire Slayer, Season 6, Episode 3


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How does what you talk about (4.00 / 2)
square with what's happening in fact? What I mean is its nice to talk about reallignment, but one of the things that I've realized over the last few months is that it's not enough for them to be Democratic. How does this shift occur if we have two choices- one is unacceptable idealogically and the other is unacceptable because they have shown inability to lead. So what are we left to do with your views of reallignment? I hope this question makes sense. I am only now fully begining to understand how the netroots people are wrong in their perceptions. That they talk a good game, but the actual substantive of change doesn't seem like it will occur. For example, how does what you say jive with picking Clinton, whom I think will leave this party where it was in the 1990s by the end of her administration versus the primary voter perception that she is a symbol of what they want? There is precedent for my concern over Clinton, but more importantly, I don't see how just winning two cycles means anything if its not also a resultant shift in leadership. I don't see that change of leadership happening in time soon. Perhaps the shift you need to look at is one not of electoral outcome (a fools gold) but of completition of progressive legislative outcomes. Only the later seems fit to indicate any real shift.

change in leadership (4.00 / 1)
This is what keeps me up at night! Because in the proverbial realignment, leadership generally does not come from Congress but from the president. The quintessential examples in modern times are FDR and Reagan. That's why I agree that the '94 elections was not a realignment, but more a continuation of the Reagan realignment (culminating in Bush's '04 election).

As for progressive policies being the marker of shifts, well I think you're right there too. For our side that should be the marker because we believe in progressing. For the right, the marker is subtle dismantling of the welfare state.

But I don't think we need to worry so much about getting different leaders in Congress. From the 30s-60s? Yes. But Democrats in Congress now, although they can be timid creatures, do typically vote the correct way.

So really the question is how do we get the next FDR into office? And I thought I had the answer with John Edwards. Someone who is very progressive AND very electable. But for some reason the majority of the rest of the Democratic primary electorate does not agree with me at this time.

Nostalgia can be so dangerous.


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This Is Very Important (0.00 / 0)
McKinnley shows what happens when the realignment comes but the leadership is not there. (Not that I'm a big fan of the 1896 GOP's direction, but you get the point.)  Our situation is not fully analogous, because we are still struggling to figure out what the problems are, or at least how they should be conceptualized.  But we definitely will have a leadership vacuum unless Edwards is the nominee, and possibly even if he is the nominee.

However, the fact that this is happening in the internet age, with the explosion of peer-to-peer communication indicates that the role of presidential leadership may be less dominating.  While it would be great to have another Lincoln or an FDR, we may be able to bubble up enough from below that we change directions fast enough to save ourselves from the various forms of disaster facing us.

However, there is clearly an intense need for us to be developing leadership ASAP, both in the Senate, and for the White House in the future.

"You know what they say -- those of us who fail history... doomed to repeat it in summer school." -- Buffy The Vampire Slayer, Season 6, Episode 3


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Media (4.00 / 1)
Given the stranglehold on the current media discourse by multinational corporations and neo-liberal economic policies, I actually think the president is at least as important if not more important than it used to be.

The president still has the largest bully pulpit in the world. And is still one of the few political actors that can cut through the current media clutter. So having someone in that role who can articulate a progressive narrative that directly contradicts the dominant neo-liberal one I think is essential for a successful ideological realignment. Especially since so many people are ready for that message. They just need the leadership to communicate it and advocate for it.


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Excellent Questions! (0.00 / 0)
Winning two wave elections is necessary, but by no means sufficient.  My whole point in writing about this is precisely to burrow into the deeper considerations of what's necessary, both in terms of activism and in terms of what we need to demand of our elected officials and others.

We are obviously very much stalled right now, and I want to help understand why, and what can be done.  Identifying the existence of a conservative coalition is the beginning of this process, not the end.  Ditto the various other barriers we face.

One thing I intend to get around to is revisiting my proposal for an organzing strategy in battleground districts.  (I don't mean that it should only happen there, but it should be focused there first.)  We need to develop a more robust political infrastructure of our own that can be constantly involved in lobbying, advising, and when necessary bringing significant popular pressure to bear.  We are still essentially episodic in our activism, and much more reactive than proactive.  Those are things we need to change.

And if Hillary is President, then lobbying against some of her major initiatives will just have to be part of what we do.

Perhaps the shift you need to look at is one not of electoral outcome (a fools gold) but of completition of progressive legislative outcomes.

The two are intimately related, however.  And with sufficient organizing, we can get scumbags voting for good things just to save their own hides.  A significant majority--in the mid-60s or higher--is necessary in order to really get things done in the House.  Until you get there, most of the legislation you pass may be good, but it won't be epochal.  And we need both.

I hope this answers some of your questions.  But I know it's not going to answer them all, and it shouldn't.  If it did, I wouldn't need to write some of the diaries I'm working on.

"You know what they say -- those of us who fail history... doomed to repeat it in summer school." -- Buffy The Vampire Slayer, Season 6, Episode 3


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Define Battleground Districts (0.00 / 0)
When you say battle ground districts, do you mean the districts which are shifting from Republican to Democrat in the general elections? Or do you mean the districts where progressive Democrats are challenging Conservative Democrats in the primaries?

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Rep v. GOP Battlegounds Districts (0.00 / 0)
These are relatively well-defined, and consitute a middle-ground of the electorate.  There is already a track record of polling them, and the argument I'm advancing is that the voters there are showing signs of realignment which are more than just being open to GOP-lite "centrist" appeals.

While I would love to see a coherent national strategy to deal with districts where primary challenges are being mounted, they are not structurally identifiable with a larger narrative in the same straightforward way.  They occur by relative happenstance.  So my first priority is to urge the creation of a national structure with some staying power and a built-in logic to it.

See my posts here, here, and here.

"You know what they say -- those of us who fail history... doomed to repeat it in summer school." -- Buffy The Vampire Slayer, Season 6, Episode 3


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To be more clear (4.00 / 1)
in order to find a shift- wouldn't we need to see that the choice of leadership being choosen isn't merely a difference in party but vastly different shift in ideas. I mean FDR when he started to win in the landslides was winning because  the American people had accepted vastly different ideas. Where that occuring here to any degree other than tweaks?

We Definitely Need A Shift In Ideas (0.00 / 0)
Usually that comes from strong leadership. But right now it looks like we're going to have to create that shift ourselves.

"Trickle up" democracy.

"You know what they say -- those of us who fail history... doomed to repeat it in summer school." -- Buffy The Vampire Slayer, Season 6, Episode 3


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I don't share your faith that (0.00 / 0)
either online or in general people want do much more than regain power. I see and hear tweaking at the edges, but when push comes to shoove people want to be part of the winning team rather than promote winning ideas and leadership. I've studied enough politics both formally and informally to understand what I am seeing on the blogs- its the slow but sure take over of the establishment mentality. Doing whats sensible rather than what will move things forward. I wish and hope that I am wrong,b ut I strongly suspect gut wise that i m not. One of the reasons I ceased to be into politics for a long period of time, and why I may return to that direction is that I ultimately don't have the faith that things change. But we shall see.

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So Women Can't Vote, Blacks Are Slaves and Gays Are Lepers? (0.00 / 0)
I ultimately don't have the faith that things change.

And, of course, the New Deal never happened, either.

Pretty bleak world you live in.

In my world, real change is extremely difficult.  That's part of how you know it's real.

"You know what they say -- those of us who fail history... doomed to repeat it in summer school." -- Buffy The Vampire Slayer, Season 6, Episode 3


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A new and needed narrative (4.00 / 1)
Paul,

I'm glad to see you frontpaging today.  Your post covers lots of ground and I look forward to more. 

The elements of your post I found most interesting and significant were the introduction of the "shock doctrine" perspective and your point that "We need to discredit the narratives of free trade ideology and replace them with new narratives that tell of real alternatives--that the market is good servant, but a terrible master, and that democracy is more than a beauty pageant front for plutocracy."

I believe the process of "discrediting" today's dominant narratives cannot fully succeed without a set of "replacement" narratives that speak as (or even more) deeply to the human psyche as does the "shock" process that has helped lead us to today's debased state of mass consciousness, key manifestations of which are the still-dominant mass  media; anti-democratic tendencies in our political system; the "oligopoly capitalism" you refer to; the various strains of rigid, hate & fear-based religiosity--and the toxic and fascistic interaction of these various macro trends.

I think these new narratives need to speak not only to current events and relatively recent social, economic and political cycles & trends, but also to the core questions, values and deep  human needs that are fascistically
"addressed" ("manipulated" is perhaps a better word) through the above-referenced "institutions" and their synergistically parasitic ability to feed and guide a shock & fear-based mass consciousness.

Fortunately, the technological tools (e.g., the Internet), needed to co-develop and communicate these narratives and the human experience upon which they are based and which they feed, are in a rapid state of development and implementation.

The transformative narratives I most relate to combine progressive, synergistic and wholistically systemic political/economic "reform" focused on media, tech, energy, commons and political systems, with a non-denominational spiritual perspective that is best judged by the biblical standard of "know them by their fruits," not by an argument that says "my god is better than your god and here are the selected scripture quotes that back me up" (which is no more than a scared, angry, immature child's claim of "my daddy can beat up your daddy.")

When I can free up more time, I hope to help to write that narrative.  For now, I'll have to settle for simply trying to live it in small day-to-day ways. 

Your post helps move the "transformational narrative" ball forward a bit.  Thanks for writing it.  It's a fitting contribution for the season of Rosh Hashanah/Yom Kippur and Ramadan, which can remind us of universal human values, but are also a reminder of the last full-scale Mideast war that occurred 34 years ago and triggered our first major oil shock, among other things.  If we remember and focus on only the latter, and our collective response to it and to subsequent "shocks," it's easy to lose hope and to get stuck in bitterness and anger.  This can manifest as a sense of religion, politics or both, that is driven by these negative feelings and that tends to manifest their fruits. 

I hope to help write and live a different narrative, one that acknowledges and realistically deals with the human tendency that leads to wars, but that is rooted in other human tendencies--those that breed compassion, clarity, cooperation, mutual respect and a sense of self that frees us from our fear-based identities rather than merely replaces them with new ones. 

Harnessing modern technology to these positive human tendencies in mutually self-reinforcing ways represents to me the culmination of a very, very long cycle in human history.  It's a narrative well worth writing, one that can help wake our nation up from its current state of fitful somnambulance.

I'm reminded of a turning point in my own life, back around the days of the '73 war.  I had two versions of the same dream, which was the explosion of nuke in my vicinity as part of some massive war.  In the first "take," I felt a brief but overwhelmingly intense moment of primal terror and despair, as I violently lost my life and my world.  In the second dream, the events were the same, but I felt a deep peace and sense of "self" beyond my physical form and identities. 

Both dreams felt incredibly real and, together, they focused my attention on whether the second option might be a real possibility, and what its implications might be beyond the extreme "end of life" scenario in my dreams.  They helped point me on an inner journey that has paralleled my decades-long interest in political, economic and social change.  That journey, in turn, has led me to believe that the external transformation our nation and the world needs must and will be grounded in an individual and collective inner transformation, and that the writing and reading of a narrative that portrays and inspires this multilayered process of change and growth will play a key part in helping it move forward.


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I'm Not Sure There Is "A" Narrative (0.00 / 0)
But rather, a multiplicity of them.

I welcome all who would help weave them together.

Thank you, deeply, for your comment. And especially for sharing your two dreams.  I had similar dream experiences when I was a kid and a teenager.  Not exactly the same, but similar in import and impact.


"You know what they say -- those of us who fail history... doomed to repeat it in summer school." -- Buffy The Vampire Slayer, Season 6, Episode 3


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I agree (0.00 / 0)
Yes..weaving them all together, with strong, shared connective threads that comprise, clarify and strengthen the human aspects of the "worldwide web."  That seems to be where we're headed (I hope). 

Best wishes on your new OL frontpage duties.  I just got back from my first visit to synagogue in a decade or so, to pay respects to my Dad, who passed away a few months ago (and to my mother, who asked me to go), and was glad to see your follow-up post already up there....I'll take a look.


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you got me (0.00 / 0)
things change- but not until there is no other choice. most people right now still don't feel enough pain to change

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FDR won his first presidential election in a landslide (0.00 / 0)
Because his opponent was the least popular president in history.  His success has a lot more to do with a rejection of Hooverism than anything FDR was offering.

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Thats only one example (0.00 / 0)
there are multiple.

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FDR Was A Very Popular Governor (0.00 / 0)
of the largest state in the union.

As such, he had dealt with the largest aspect of the nationwide economic crises facing anyone in the country aside from Hoover.

Sure, it was a repudiation of Hooverism.  But it was also a vote for a a very different vision of what the nation could and should be.

"You know what they say -- those of us who fail history... doomed to repeat it in summer school." -- Buffy The Vampire Slayer, Season 6, Episode 3


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This is exciting... (4.00 / 1)
...I look forward to reading what you have to say on this issue which is one of the chief topics of discussion.

Luam's idea seems a good one. And I would extend it to internal actions by any entity. That is, all actions need to be considered in light of their entire impact, social, environmental, and health as well as the crude and distorting lens of the 'bottom line'.

See Capitalism 3.0 by Peter Barnes for some interesting ideas about this.

Oh yeah, I put this video up on the blog where I post.

Peace, Health and Prosperity for Everyone.


shock doctrine (0.00 / 0)
how is this strategy any different than the means used by FDR to establish the welfare state in the first place?  He used a vast national crisis to create the modern system of social services.  I have a feeling that the American people probably would have been equally amenable to a megalomaniac like Huey Long, had he become President.  Similarly, I doubt that LBJ is able to get Medicare or all of the civil rights legislation passed without something like the Kennedy assassination hanging over the nation's head.

It seems to me that incrementalism is the rule except in times of great crisis.  The lesson seems to be that shock can be used for good or for evil.  But where does that leave democracy?  Is it inherently unscrupulous to enact progressive legislation under circumstances like this?


Turn the Question Round (0.00 / 0)
Isn't it unscrupulous not to attempt to improve quality of life when you have the opportunity to do so?

The fact that circumstances rarely allow substantive change does not in any way mean that it is cheating to take advantage of situations when change is possible.

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but... (0.00 / 0)
if those circumstances are a terrified, cowed and pliant populace, then where does that leave democracy?  If the only way to make serious change, for the better or for the worse, is by terrifying and misinforming the masses, then don't your actions fly fundamentally int eh face of the notion of government having the consent of the governed? 

Aren't we back to the old arguments that a benevolent Monarch is more capable of effecting change than a deliberative body ever will be?  I'm not comfortable with that.


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But That's Simply Not The Case (0.00 / 0)
First off, it's not the case that major change only happens when faced with crises.  Major change is more likely when faced with crises, true.  But some major change happens simply because awareness grows, political power grows, and people are finally able to get something done.

Second, just because change happens in response to a crisis doesn't mean that it depends on " a terrified, cowed and pliant populace."  In fact, the New Deal proceeded in several stages--the first incarnation under the NRA was thrown out as unconstitutional--and there was a great deal of deliberation over the most lasting aspects of it, as opposed to the emergency measures that had to be implemented swiftly.

Indeed, some of the emergency measures were required precisely to make sure that people were acting in a coolheaded deliberative manner.  The most obvious example of this was the  bank holiday, which curbed a terribly destructive run on the nation's banks.

If you're just playing devil's advocate, you're doing an excellent job.  But if you actually believe what you're saying, then you are sincerely misinformed about major aspects of political history.

"You know what they say -- those of us who fail history... doomed to repeat it in summer school." -- Buffy The Vampire Slayer, Season 6, Episode 3


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I am pretty much playing devils advocate (0.00 / 0)
And pointing out/adding to the discussion using fear is always bad, even if it fear used by the left in order to accomplish 'progressive' goals.  Considering that I got a response that was basically 'I'm fine with accomplishing progressive goals by these means,' I think it added to the discussion.

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I Didn't See That (0.00 / 0)
Who exactly said 'I'm fine with accomplishing progressive goals by these means,'?

I must have missed that one.

"You know what they say -- those of us who fail history... doomed to repeat it in summer school." -- Buffy The Vampire Slayer, Season 6, Episode 3


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I fact the citizenry has already moved far.... (4.00 / 1)
....far in advance of the political 'leadership'. Many here in Free Left Blogistan are equally lagging in their understanding of just how progressive the people are.

No...I'm not smoking anything. Clik thru my post:

Why I am an Idiot!

To the Pew Center study which covers the last 20 years and you will see what that I have good reasons for my assertion. The main issue now is to ensure that the political 'process' reflects the will of the people. No small task in the era of Couric, Hannity and Murdoch. But...

The deck was stacked a lot worse in the 1890s and early 1900s and I say we can do at least as well as they.

Despite the CW Hillary has not been elected yet. And even if she is she's going to need progressives to support her if she intends to solve any of the nation's pressing problems.

If she doesn't intend to do more  than reward her cronies then she will go under the bus.

The problems we face are real. They are not fixable by any form of ''conservatism' nor 'triangulation', Bill proved the latter, and until a strong progressive President and/or Congress is in power the citizenry will continue to change 'leadership' until solutions are found.

And they can only be found in the progressive policies we are creating.

Peace, Health and Prosperity for Everyone.


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You Are Anticipating A Post I Hope To Do Tomorrow (0.00 / 0)
Even the Pew survey undertates it, really, as I will try to explain then.

"You know what they say -- those of us who fail history... doomed to repeat it in summer school." -- Buffy The Vampire Slayer, Season 6, Episode 3

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I look forward to that! (0.00 / 0)
I need more facts to drive home this sea change to my fellow 'progressives'!

Peace, Health and Prosperity for Everyone.

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Well, Part of the Story Is That Not So Much Changed (0.00 / 0)
Pew tells the story of change.  And that story is real.  But even at the public's most conservative they were really a lot more liberal than the political elites made them out to be.

Reagan, for example, was never very successful in getting people to like his policies just because they thought he was a friendly guy.  And when Iran-Conta blew up, his approval ratings plummeted to the low 40s even while the Dems were scrambling all over themselves to say "no one's talking about impeachment."  (Sound familiar?)

"You know what they say -- those of us who fail history... doomed to repeat it in summer school." -- Buffy The Vampire Slayer, Season 6, Episode 3


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Major Changes DO Usually Require Crises, But Not Always (0.00 / 0)
And more to the point, that's not the argument here.

There's an enormous difference between ideas that (a) have been developed over a period of decades, (b) have been debated and refined, and (c) applied on a smaller scale, or fully implemented in another country, and that (d) enjoy broad popular support, and ideas about which none of these things are true.

The New Deal may have been created in a very short time, but a great deal of what it involved drew on experiences in the states, which in turn drew on experiences in Western Europe.  By the time LBJ got Medicare passed (it had nothing to do with JFK's assassination, other than the Democrats crushing the GOP in the 1964 elections), Germany had had universal healthcare for all its citizens, not just its elders, for eight decades.

In fact, aside from the Civil Rights Act of 1964, virtually all the landmark legislation that Johnson got passed came after the 1964 elections, and was the result of significant gains in that election, which freed Congress from the control of the consevative coalition for the first time since 1938.  It was the combination of Johnson's unprecedented legislative skill and this unprecedents political opportunity that made the Great Society possible.  It was not the result of crises at all.

Similarly, the progressive movements of the 1960s kept the legislative momentum going well into Richard Nixon's presidency.  The enviornmental laws passed at that time--the Clean Air Act, Clean Water Act, creation of the EPA, etc.--were not the result of crises.  They were the result of growing awareness and deteriorating conditions, certainly, but the air was nothing like the air in LA had been a couple of decades before these actions were taken.  These laws were passed in a very deliberative manner that this exact opposite of what Klein is writing about.

Furthermore, Klein's point is that these policies are presented not as policy options, but simply as conforming to the way the world works, as if they were written by the laws of nature (see Frances Fukiyama, for example) and as if there is no alternative (see Margaret Thatcher).  This is, arguably, the most fundamental difference between the policy options you are seeking to equate with free market ideological policies.

It's one thing to say, "We're in a crisis, we need to do something quickly that is commensurate with the gravity of the situation we face."  It's another thing completely to say "We're in a crises.  We have no choice but to abandon our principles and traditions, and accept these new policies, being dictated by outsiders, whether we like them or not."

"You know what they say -- those of us who fail history... doomed to repeat it in summer school." -- Buffy The Vampire Slayer, Season 6, Episode 3


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Great job (4.00 / 1)
Democrats had the Presidency, at least 270 House members and at least 60% of the Senate for just 10 years since the membership of the House was set at 435 in 1912 (between the elections of 1932 to 1938 and following the elections of 1964 and 1976.  That represents eight yeears of huge progress and one huge opportunity blown.

Several points to amplify what's been said.  Wikipedia says that 67% of Perot voters voted Republican in the House elections of 1994.  That was a key dynamic.  Although Democrats lost 54 seats only 24 were seats vacated by retired Democrats, 34 were incumbents, and four retiring Republicans were replaced by Democrats.  Of course, a greater number actually did retire.

The election of 1994 showed significant Republican gains in Washington and IIRC New York, Califormia and New Jersey.  The number of Republican members from these traditionally Democratic states was rolled back but was replaced by further gains in the south.  A Democratic revolution might see temporary gains in the south that were slowly replced by seats in the rest of the country.

If one section of the country is ready for a massive change over it is the Great Lakes.  Five Republican House members have already announced they will not seek re-election in this region (Hastert, Weller, LaHood, Ramstad, Pryce) and another representative died leaving a vacancy (Gilmor),  At least three seats in Ohio and three in Michigan are considered vulnerable in addition and several other retirements are expected (Regula, maybe Sensenbrenner). 

Trade, the loss of manufacturing jobs, the failure to replace critical infrastructure and the sell-out of failure to invest in education can all be big issues here.  A whole slew of Republican governors in this region were elected promising to make big changes to reinvigorate these states.  They flopped big time.  John Engler, Tommy Thompson, and the convicted pair of George (?) Ryan and Bob Taft plus the infrastructure cutter Tim Pawlenty left a lot of bitterness and a few super rich behind.  Crooks and liars, indeed.  Mitch Daniels doesn't look so hot either.

We need a convincing narrative and convincing candidates to bring this home.  No Lipinskis or Beans, thank you.

And I am convinced that the time is golden to sweep out a lot of the remaining Republican dead wood in the Northeast.  Replace these people and we will get some progressives.

The Republican class of 1994 produced very little leadership, mostly followers and the ambitious.  We need to do better and I don't mean electing a few cautious big mouths.

The rest of the story is pretty much pre-sold.  Democrats will save the environment, preserve social security and may even expand health care coverage.  The media is against us but then the media was solidly against FDR and he continued to cream them and the Republicans for years.  People can tell the difference between the truth and the foul mouthed lies of Limbaugh, O'Reilly, Coulter, and Dobson.


I Agree Completely (0.00 / 0)
I am with Tom Schaller on this.  We have huge opportunities outside the South, and a tremendous opportunity to turn the GOP into a strictly regional party.  To do that, one thing we need to do is craft regional narratives and policy initiatives for the other regions of the country.

Schaller writes a lot about the West, which is certainly important.  But the Great Lakes is indeed the land of low-hanging fruit, as you have pointed out.  And if we handle redistricting right, there will be even more to reap in 2012 as well.

"You know what they say -- those of us who fail history... doomed to repeat it in summer school." -- Buffy The Vampire Slayer, Season 6, Episode 3


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Don't completely right off the South. (0.00 / 0)
The Democratic Party should be the natural governing party of the entire nation because it is the only truly modern political party of the two. By that I mean that of the only two choices it is the only one that believes in promoting the social welfare of society. The current GOP is a throwback to McKinley's GOP. One of laissez-faire capitalism and imperialism. And no democratic populace in an advanced post-industrial economy can stand such a party for long. It just isn't logical given what's involved in the promotion of a laissez-faire capitalistic system.

So that's a long-winded way of saying that the GOP shouldn't just be a regional party. It should be a completely irrelevant party. At this point I only see 5 or 6 states where Democrats are completely dead in the water at this time: South Carolina, Georgia, Alabama, Texas, Utah, and maybe Idaho. Outside of those states (and Texas will be leaving that category soon just because of demographics) there are huge opportunities in the South. And the appeals don't have to necessarily come from conservative Democrats.

Don't right off the South. There's a lot of GOP deadwood down here too.


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I'm Not Saying To Write It Off (4.00 / 1)
But I am agreeing with Schaller that we shouldn't pander to them.  And furthermore, to the extent that the GOP does pander to them, they should be forced to pay a heavy price for that.

"You know what they say -- those of us who fail history... doomed to repeat it in summer school." -- Buffy The Vampire Slayer, Season 6, Episode 3

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Please do not forget the.... (0.00 / 0)
Mountain West. Sirota writes, correctly I think, that 'folks' there are opposed to becoming the new West Virginia with Mountain Top removal being replaced by the lakes of toxic mud methane drilling creates. All courtesy of yer Republican Party.

We should have many allies in the recreation industry as this is becoming as, or more, important to the local economy as resource extraction.

It will be interesting to see how LaRocca, I think that's his name, does in Idaho and, just as important, if he's got the balls to run a progressive campaign there. And if Idaho voters are ready for that.

Peace, Health and Prosperity for Everyone.


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I Agree With Schaller That The West Is Where The Dems Should Look (0.00 / 0)
Instead of the South.  And, having lived in Idaho, however briefly, I would dearly love to see it return to the glory days of Frank Church.

However, I think it's clearly going to take a lot of hard work over a number of cycles before we really start to see major payoffs on a region-wide basis.  In contrast, I think that the Great Lakes area is ready to pop in 2008, "big time," as America's #2 war criminal would say.

"You know what they say -- those of us who fail history... doomed to repeat it in summer school." -- Buffy The Vampire Slayer, Season 6, Episode 3


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I must admit I don't know much about the... (0.00 / 0)
....Midwest. I do think that the Mountain West is pretty close to turning blue. I recall fly fishing in Montana 10 years ago and in every paper in every little town we stopped in the op-ed and letters to the editor where filled with the locals outrage at the Federal Government and it's failure to be a good neighbor.

And this was when the Feds where doing their best to be good neighbors.

Not cut down every tree, strip mine the place and pollute the hell out of the water; of which, there is a real shortage in most of this area. Nevada, Eastern Oregon, Idaho, much of Colorado and all of New Mexico and Arizona being located in this place called 'The Great American Desert'.

But I'm with Chris and  Governor Dean...we run progressive candidates everywhere. And let the chips fall where they may.

One place I'd like to see a competitive progressive in a primary would be  Il-05.

Rep Emmanuel is a real roadblock to change and it would be good to let him know that he might not always be in the House.

Peace, Health and Prosperity for Everyone.


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Rahmbo is machine politician .. (0.00 / 0)
he has money .. and the infamous Chicago machine backing him up .. that's a lot to overcome

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Well, So Was Dan Rostenkowski (0.00 / 0)
And he became a poster boy for the defeat of the Dems in 1994.

"You know what they say -- those of us who fail history... doomed to repeat it in summer school." -- Buffy The Vampire Slayer, Season 6, Episode 3

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Great Post (0.00 / 0)
And I look forward to more about how we can overcome the power of the economic elite, the ideology of the "free market," oligopoly/crony capitalism, and the idea that democracy is a beuty pageant.

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