Editing the Bible

by: Mike Lux

Tue Oct 06, 2009 at 20:30


You have to love the pluck and persistence and creativity of the conservative movement. They always give us something to talk about.

Earlier today, I was debating as to whether to write about health care (my most frequent topic these days), or jobs, an incredibly urgent issue there's been some important articles about in the last 48 hours. And I will of course get back to those centrally important topics soon. But before I do, I have to spend a minute focused on my conservative movement friends. I really have to congratulate them on their creativity.

Some folks I know have been surprised at the level of violent and vitriolic rhetoric they have worked themselves into since Obama took office. Bringing assault weapons to Presidential events, while wearing t-shirts referencing quotes about spilling the blood of tyrants? Talking openly about secession and armed rebellion? Saying that giving women the right to vote was a bad idea? Saying that Obama hated white people? It's all been done in recent weeks by movement conservatives, openly, publicly. I haven't been surprised, because as a student of history, and a staffer for Bill Clinton, I have seen all of these rhetorical flourishes before throughout history.

But every once in a while, folks in the conservative movement surprise me and come up with something new. And this one is a doozy. Apparently the folks at Conservapedia are re-translating the Bible to make it fit better with conservative ideology.

More on this venture in the extended entry.

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According to Conservapedia, there is no "fully conservative translation" which properly meets their guidelines, so the project is much needed. Among other things, they want to:

  • Better explain how certain parables actually promote free market ideology, because apparently the actual language of the Bible doesn't do a very good job of that.

  • Exclude certain, "later-inserted liberal passages." Given that there is a great deal of dispute among Bible scholars over what was original language in the ancient texts and what wasn't, it will be fascinating to see what passages make their list as "later inserted." I have some guesses.

  • Identify pro-liberal terms in existing translations such as "government" and just get rid of then. It's great how you can solve these inconvenient problems so easily.

  • Conversely, of course, identify conservative words and phrases that have been mysteriously omitted from existing translations, and figure out cool ways to stick them into the Bible stories.

Some of their examples are fun, too. When Jesus says, "Father, forgive them for they do not know what they are doing," they are quite suspicious. That quote only appears once in the Bible, they say, plus it sounds way too liberal - it must be wrong. I guess they'll just define that as "later-inserted." And then there are certain words that just appear way too often, like laborer and labored - apparently, they will just get rid of / re-translate stuff like that, too.

Now there are no suggestions about what this new translation might do with all those inconvenient references to the poor - feeding them, housing them, justice for them, etc. There are several hundred of those, so you would have a lot of editing to do to get rid of all that, or make it more "free market oriented." And if you just got rid of it entirely by ascribing it all to "later insertions," you would have a noticeably thinner Bible. And all those references to peace-making, the rich having trouble getting into heaven, etc.- all that would have to go, too.

I find this kind of thing really fun, actually. I really do admire their creativity and pure chutzpah (oh wait, is that too Jewish a word?). And it's a great principle: you find something inconvenient or tricky in a beloved text, just get rid of it. Next up: The Declaration of Independence and Gettysburg Address.

My belief system is more complicated than just being a Bible believing Christian in the traditional sense, but one of my grandpas was a minister, my dad was the lay leader of the Nebraska Conference of the Methodist church, my brother is a minister, and I was raised with, and still have, the values of the social gospel. Conservative Christians have always had a lot of trouble explaining a great many passages of the Bible, so I guess this is their way of getting rid of them. But let me just share a few they will find especially troublesome to translate:

Ecclesiastics 1-10

"My child, do not refuse the poor a livelihood, do not tantalize the needy. Do not add to the sufferings of the hungry, do not bait anyone in distress. Do not aggravate a heart already angry, nor keep the destitute waiting for your alms.
Do not repulse a hard-pressed beggar, nor turn your face from the poor. Do not avert your eyes from the needy, give no one occasion to curse you; for if someone curses you in distress, his Maker will give ear to the imprecation. Gain the love of the community in the presence of the great bow your head. To the poor lend an ear, and courteously return the greeting. Save the oppressed from the hand of the oppressor, and do not be mean-spirited in your judgments. Be like a father to the fatherless and as good as a husband to their mothers. And you will be like a child to the Most High, who will love you more than your mother does."

Psalm 22: 24-26

"I shall proclaim your name to my brothers,
Praise you in full assembly:
'You who fear Yahweh, praise him!
All the race of Jacob, honour him!
Revere him, all the race of Israel!'

For he has not despised
Nor disregarded the poverty of the poor,
Has not turned away his face,
But has listened to the cry for help."

Isaiah 2:4

"Then he will judge between the nations
And arbitrate between many peoples.
They will hammer their swords into ploughshares
And their spears into sickes.
Nation will not lift sword against nation,
No longer will they learn how to make war."

Isaiah 10: 1-4

"Woe to those who enact unjust decrees,
who compose oppressive legislation
to deny justice to the weak
and to cheat the humblest of my people of fair judgment,
to make widows their prey
and to rob the orphan.
What will you do on the day of punishment,
when disaster comes from far away?
To whom will you run for help
And where will you leave your riches."

Amos 8: 4-7

"Listen to this, you who crush the needy
And reduce the oppressed to nothing,
You who say, 'When will New Moon be over'
So that we can sell our corn,
And Sabbath, so that we can market our wheat?
Then we can make the bushel-measure smaller
And the shekel-weight bigger
By fraudulently tampering with the scales.
We can buy up the weak for silver
And the poor for a pair of sandals,
And even get a price for the sweepings of the wheat.'
Yahweh has sworn by the pride of Jacob,
'Never will I forget anything they have done.'
Will not the Earth tremble for this."

Matthew 6:24

"No one can be the slaves of two masters: he will either hate the first and love the second, or be attached to the first and despise the second. You cannot be the slave of both God and money."

Matthew 7: 1-5

"Do not judge, and you will not be judged;' because the judgments you give are judgments you will get, and the standard you use will be the standard used for you. Why do you observe the splinter in your brother's eye and never notice the great log in your own? And how dare you say to your brother, "Let me take that splinter out of your eye," when, look, there is a great log in your own? Hypocrite! Take the log out of your own eye first, and then you will see clearly enough to splinter your brother's eye."

Matthew 25: 31-46

"When the Son of man comes in his glory, escorted by all the angels, then he will take his seat on his throne of glory. All nations will be assembled before him, and he will separate out people from one another as the shepherd separates sheep from oats. He will place the sheep on his right hand and the goats on his left. Then the King will say to those on his right hand, "Come, you whom my Father has blessed, take as your heritage the kingdom prepared for you since the foundation of the world. For I was hungry and you gave me food, I was thirsty and you have me drink, I was a stranger and you gave me welcome, lacking cloths and you clothed me, sick and you visited me, in prison and you came to see me." Then the upright will say to him in reply, "Lord, when did you see the hungry and feed you, or thirsty and give you a drink? When did we see you a stranger and make you welcome, lacking cloths and clothe you? When did we find you sick or in prison and go to see you?" And the King will answer, "In truth I tell you, in so for as you did this to one of the least of these brothers of mine, you did it tome." Then he will say to those on his left hand, go away from me, with your curse upon you, and to the eternal fire prepared for those for the devil and his angels. For I was hungry and you never gave me food, I was thirsty and you never gave me anything to drink, I was a stranger and you never made me welcome, lacking cloths and you never clothed me, sick and in prison and you never visited me." Then it will answer, "In truth I tell you, in so far as you neglected to do this to one of the least of these, you neglected to it to me." And they will go away to eternal punishment,, and the upright to eternal life."

Luke 1: 46-55

And Mary said:

"My soul proclaims the greatness of the Lord
And my spirit rejoices in God my saviour;
Because he has looked upon the humiliation of his servant.
Yes, from now onwards all generations will call me blessed,
For the Almighty has done great things for me.
Holy is his name,
And his faithful love extends age after age to those who fear him.
He has used the power of his arm,
He has routed the arrogant of heart.
He has pulled down princes from their thrones and raised high the lowly.
He has filled the starving with good things, sent the right away empty.
He has come to the help of Israel his servant, mindful of his faithful love
according to the promise he made to our ancestors
Of his mercy to Abraham and his descendents for ever."

Luke 4: 18-19

"The spirit of the Lord is on me
For he has anointed me
To bring the good news to the afflicted.
He has sent me to proclaim liberty to captives,
Sight to the blind,
To let the oppressed go free,
To proclaim a year of favour from the Lord."

James 2: 1-9

"From James, servant of God and the Lord Jesus Christ. Greetings 'to the twelve tribes of the Dispersion.'

My brothers, consider it a great joy when trials of many kinds come upon you, for you well know that the testing of your faith produces perseverance, and perseverance must complete its work so that you will become fully developed, complete, not deficient in any way.

Any of you who lacks wisdom must ask God, who gives to all generously and without scolding; it will be given. But the prayer must be made with faith, and no trace of doubt, because a person who has doubts is like the waves thrown up in the sea by the buffeting of the wind. That sort of person, in two minds, inconsistent in every activity, must not expect to receive anything from the Lord."

Now this is a blog post, not a book, so the words above represent a very slim selection of all the passages conservatives are going to have to either delete as "later-inserted", or figure out how to make more "free-market friendly." There are plenty more I could mention.

Amy Sullivan in The Week suggests that the whole project is so absurd, so laughable that it might as well be a hoax. Maybe so, but given all the other stuff our conservative movement friends have been doing lately, I wouldn't put this project past them.


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Editing the Bible | 48 comments
Not that unusual (0.00 / 0)
Pretty much everyone edits the Bible how they choose. Most people, for instance, edit out all the bits about animal sacrifice, dragons, talking donkeys, selling your children into slavery and prohibitions on the eating of shellfish.

I guess it's a little odd that they're editing out what many would consider "the good stuff", but since no two people ever seem to agree on what "the good stuff" in the Bible is, and the book itself doesn't quite make itself clear on the subject, I don't see what the big deal is.

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Including Thomas Jefferson (0.00 / 0)
He didn't like miracles and other aspects of the New Testament. So he cut the bible into strips and rearranged them.  How long will we continue to be guided by interpretations of these mythologies?  

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Thomas Jefferson (4.00 / 6)
edited the bible so that the sociopolitical message of Jesus could be appreciated without all of the mojo provided by the church. The message is actually a political message, but most importantly to progressives, Jesus saw everyone, every individual, as capable of moral action, or call it moral autonomy. That message is devastating to the powerful who, like most church leaders or oligarchs, increase their hegemony via their presumed access to morality and thereby strip the poor of their last possession.

The message is as timely now as it ever was.

On another note, it will be interesting to see how the new Jesus-Con tasered some hapless leper and rallied the market over 15000.
 


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Mostly agree (4.00 / 2)
Except why the pronouncements of Jesus should matter more than anyone else who has demostrated equal validity over time.  

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I also agree (4.00 / 2)
but it is this view of Jesus that makes him comparable to others with similar messages. In my opinion, Jesus and others are relevant only in so much as they  are simply human. For me, this is when their teachings become profound.

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Yeah, it's as old as Christianity itself... (4.00 / 5)
The Nicene council pretty much threw away dozens, if not hundreds of now apocryphal books from the new testament.

Translating the bible to the vernacular offered a great opportunity to those who wanted to change the wording.

Luther made some modifications when he broke from the church.

The Anglicans made sure that the King James version of the bible was "translated" in the correct way to fit their beliefs.  This one is the most "official" in mainline protestant denominations, but evangelicals will go off on many other translations.

And on and on it goes...there are dozens of modern translations, some more liberal, some more conservative. Still, it's pretty gutsy of them to essentially rewrite the bible.  Fundies are pretty adamant about the "literal inerrency" of the bible, and they pretty much memorize the King James version.  The ones who are really fervent go and translate the old texts from the original greek, latin, and aramaic.  They obsess over every word and meaning of the words.  It would be difficult to get peopel to buy into the stuff, but, I imagine that the neocons would somehow manage to find a way to do it.

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Some of the fervent ones do (4.00 / 1)
Although I have known some who seriously argued that the King James version was more accurate than the original Aramaic. I did point out that this was insanity bordering upon British Israelitism, but they stuck to their guns.

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new translation (4.00 / 1)
Ignoring the things you don't like has been done for as long as there has been a Bible. Actually re-translating it to drop the inconvenient stuff is not the standard.

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It's That Last Part of The Clip From Matthew 25 (4.00 / 6)
that really bites them in keister:

Then it will answer, "In truth I tell you, in so far as you neglected to do this to one of the least of these, you neglected to it to me." And they will go away to eternal punishment,

That's them it's talking about, going away to eternal punishment.

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And don't forget .. (0.00 / 0)
Conservapedia .. is the brain child of famous wing-nut Phyllis Schafly(sp?)'s son

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In the Begining, The Earth Was Flat & Safe For (0.00 / 0)
Flat Heads ... "

how's that for a start?

rmm.  

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But they will sure as hell try! (4.00 / 2)
No one can be the slaves of two masters: he will either hate the first and love the second, or be attached to the first and despise the second. You cannot be the slave of both God and money.

Alas, but you can... If you make money your god. (0.00 / 0)
I have a feeling their idea will work.

They will write their corporatist, plutocratic bible, then corporate-sponsored "grassroots" groups will distribute millions of copies. Enough people will start using it, encouraged by millions of dollars of corporate financed propaganda, fear, hate, and anger, and they will use it to teach their children from the time they are born - and BAM!, you have a new denomination of Christianity that is as much at odds with Catholicism, Baptists, and Mormons as they all are with each other.

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If you read Jeff Sharlet's (0.00 / 0)
The Family and visit the web site talk2action.org, you'll see that this new denomination is already here - the homeschool movement is one of the more visible parts of it.  Just cook up a new 'founding document' like the to-be-sanitized Bible, and you're all set!  Theocracy, ho!

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Yep - you could start any new religion no matter how insane if (0.00 / 0)
you program children from the time they are born that David Koresh or Jim Jones or Marshall Applewhite is the living incarnation of God. They will always feel it deep down in their gut - and they will indoctrinate their own children... if they don't do themselves in first.

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isaiah 58:3-7 (4.00 / 1)
from JPS:

3 "Why, when we fasted, did You not see?
When we starved our bodies, did You pay no heed?"
Because on your fast day
You see to your business
And oppress all your laborers!
4 Because you fast in strife and contention,
And you strike with a wicked fist!
your fasting today is not such
As to make your voice heard on high.
5 Is such the fast I desire,
A day for men to starve their bodies?
Is it bowing the head like a bulrush
And lying in sackcloth and ashes?
Do you call that a fast,
A day when the Lord is favorable?
6 No, this is the fast I desire:
To unlock the fetters of wickedness,
And untie the cords of the yoke
To let the oppressed go free;
To break off every yoke.
7 It is to share your bread with the hungry,
And to take the wretched poor into your home;
When you see the naked, to clothe him,
And not to ignore your own kin.


Ecclesiastics 1-10 (4.00 / 1)
"My child born in the wedlock of one man and one woman, do not refuse the deserving poor a livelihood; if they are willing to work, let them prove themselves by finding a job. Do not add to the sufferings of the hungry by giving them food and preventing them from fending for themselves.  Do not keep the destitute waiting for your alms: tell them no alms are forthcoming, and end their waiting."

? (0.00 / 0)
Could not find Ecclesiastics, but Ecclesiastes 1:10 does not say that. Neither does Ecclesiastes have the verse you quoted in the entire chapter. Please advise, thanks.

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Read the post. (0.00 / 0)
Find the quote there. Compare to mine.

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What will this do to Bible Literalists? (4.00 / 2)
A friend of mine believes in the literal interpretation of the bible.  He has stated "god was able to create the earth, the plants, the animals, the entire universe... don't you think if he did that he could manage to get a book published?"  I have to admit, I don't quite hold to that line of thinking.  Actually, I have to admit that I think the bible holds The Answers just as much as the myths described in Edith Hamilton's textbooks.

But these proposed changes.... How will they affect bible literalists?  Will their view of the world change?  Will they interpret this version of the bible as a heretical bastardization of the true bible?  Will their heads explode?  (I hope not - that friend is also a partner with me in an online retail site...)


Contradiction Is Consistency! (0.00 / 0)
Surely, if War Is Peace, that must follow, no?

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In the American Empire (0.00 / 0)
this may be true:

Contradiction Is Consistency!

This nation is a bundle of contradiction, has been from before the beginning. That's pretty damned consistent.


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My guess (4.00 / 2)
is that this new bible will be revealed as the true Word of God only after Prophet Limbaugh gets hold of it.

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This is, by far... (4.00 / 1)
...my favorite comment in this whole thread.

I probably have better things to do with my time than this.

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If they are rewriting the Bible to make it Conservative (4.00 / 3)
I hope the General sues their asses. Republican Jesus is his copyright:

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New testament (4.00 / 1)
So many eloquent passages from the bible about the need to acknowledge and serve poverty. But they are rivaled by equallly evocative  writings from Stephan Crane, John Steinbeck and others. Yet we don't "worship" them. The problem isn't biblical interpretation. The problem is insisting that religion is the only valid interpretation of morality.    

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In the beginning, there was Hoover. Strike that. (4.00 / 3)
there was Reagan. Reagan banished all from the garden of Eden.

The Garden of Eden was an evil scourge and Sodom and Gomorrah was open for business.

 

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Sodom and Gomorrah was open for business (0.00 / 0)
(The) sun enter the Capricorn (and) the star of sin will shine
The king of Sodom drink again
Lady Babylon's wine
(One) hungred and twenty days in the depth of the dead sea
And walk the path of peccatus
(And) the setian alchemy
Rise of Sodom and Gomorrah
Reveal the gnosis
Of Borora
The princess Justine
Sing a song of her sin
Of pleasure and pain
And the virtues in vain
To the ear that will hear
And the one without fear
To the old fallen ones and the forbidden thing they all have done
(The) sun enter the Capricorn (and) the star of sin will shine
The king of Sodom drink again
Lady Babylon's wine
Rise of Sodom and Gomorrah
Reveal the gnosis of Borora
Hear the king Bera
Cry out in the land of cannan
And the daughters of lot
Cry for their father and their god.
("The cry of complaint of Sodom and Gomorrah
Yes, it's loud and their sins are heavy")

(Sorry, can't help myself. )


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On The Other Hand (4.00 / 2)
19 All the silver and gold and the articles of bronze and iron are sacred to the LORD and must go into his treasury."

20 When the trumpets sounded, the people shouted, and at the sound of the trumpet, when the people gave a loud shout, the wall collapsed; so every man charged straight in, and they took the city. 21 They devoted the city to the LORD and destroyed with the sword every living thing in it--men and women, young and old, cattle, sheep and donkeys.

Never let yourself be convinced the Bible is a liberal tome, either.  Many hands went into its writing.  No honest read of the the Old Testament even leads to the conclusion God is one of the good guys.


Not Only That (0.00 / 0)
There's the sins of eating at Red Lobster & wearing polyester blends.

Tough book to figure.

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No art (4.00 / 1)
My daughter pointed out to me the other day that art is basically forbidden from the Ten Commandments themselves.

4"You shall not make for yourself an idol, or any likeness of what is in heaven above or on the earth beneath or in the water under the earth.

Note the period.  Every translation seems to have that.  One is not to make a likeness of anything in air, earth or water -- pretty much anything -- and it isn't limited to idols.  That part we think of as being the actual commandment is the previous sentence ("Thou shalt have no other gods before Me") and the next:

5"You shall not worship them or serve them; for I, the LORD your God, am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers on the children, on the third and the fourth generations of those who hate Me,

6but showing lovingkindness to thousands, to those who love Me and keep My commandments.



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And this is, in fact, taken seriously in Islamic art (4.00 / 3)
This is one of the reasons why most Islamic art is heavily focused on Geometric patterns and other non-representational things, rather than on images of people.

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Silly Muslims. (4.00 / 2)
They also take that bit about usury seriously!

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No NON-ABSRACT Art (0.00 / 0)
Live Valatan says, Islam takes this seriously.

But by the same token, modern abstract art is perfectly Biblical too.  You know, the kind that conservatives despise, saying, "My three-year old could do that!"

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The Orthodox (4.00 / 3)
get around that by painting icons. They say the relevant word is "graven," i.e. three-dimensional, so no statues.

The Catholics, bless their pagan hearts, throw it out altogether and it's a good thing, or Western art as we know it would it would not exist. The Muslims make geometric images.

But this commandment is why a lot of lower Protestant churches are ugly as sin. To some of them, beauty is literally anathema.

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You see! (4.00 / 6)
The Pharisees were trying to save Jesus, with their helpful advice in free enterprise within and without the Temple.  Unfortunately, his tendency to get drunk on wine led them to determine that he had a preexisting medical condition, which then led the overly bureaucratic Roman Death Panels to determine that it would be inefficient to ration care to him as he aged, and they therefore ordered him killed.

You're my favorite waste if time (0.00 / 0)
isn't that an old T Bone Burnett tune?

I love this idea. We should encourage them to edit other holy books as well, you know, take American Conservatism Global.

I met a guy in graduate school that was translating the bible into Klingon. Don't know if he ever finished it.



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The Bible is a bunch of crap... (4.00 / 1)
...edited or not.

It is fun to watch folks take it seriously (0.00 / 0)
I'd be laughing, too, if it were not the case that some of the people taking the book too goddamned seriously are intent on punishing the rest of us, or trying to make us pertain to the standards they divine from the words they attribute to the imaginary vapor they refer to as god.

Its almost cute. Like confusing small pets with a laser pointer or a flashlight and watching them try to catch hold of something that is not quite there.


"It sounds wrong...
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Not ALL of it is crap. (0.00 / 0)
If you really think about it, Jesus was a socialist.  His teachings indeed are rife with what today is considered socialism.  I'll bet you doughnuts that the actual teachings of Christ will be edited out or rewritten to reflect right-wing love for greed, heartlessness, and power.



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The early church community compiled the Bible (4.00 / 2)
Early Christians met to "remember" Christ in the love feast called the Lord's Supper/the Eucharist, etc. This happened before there was a "new Testament." When they put together this Testament they CHOSE to emphasize love of God and neighbor in order to re-emphasize the overall message the of the Hebrew Scriptures that they also adopted. The message was simple: "Love God wholeheartedly. Love your neighbor as yourself." The test of how you loved God was how you treated others.

There was a precedent for choosing certain writings as sacred: the Hebrew Scriptures had been officially compiled only about 100-200 years before there were followers of Jesus. The Jews too chose a set of Scriptures that showed God revealing that justice toward neighbor was to be the basis of honoring God.

Of course the right pays no attention to scholarship. They make everything else up, so why not make up a weird version of Christian Scripture?


Even scholars make stuff up (0.00 / 0)
its not like god wrote the damn book. Can a mythological entity even write a book? All religious texts were made up at some point.  

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The bible has been changed many times (4.00 / 2)
in the past as new translations come out that modify the meaning of some of the previous texts.    I would like to think that in most cases, modifications were made with good intentions to better reflect the word of God.  

This is different.  This is revision for the sole purpose of promoting a political agenda.   Nothing could be more wrong.    


I gather you aren't familiar with past translation/transcription efforts. (4.00 / 1)
King James is, for example, replete with examples of modifications deliberately made for a political agenda "Thou shalt not suffer a witch to live." - Exodus 20 - when Witches didn't exist when the Pentateuch was formalized http://www.biblegateway.com/pa... One could argue that little of the New Testament has been unaffected - there are more known changes from the presumed singular original texts than there are words in the New Testament.

Heck, portions have been added and removed for political agenda. Portions of them have been multiple editors interweaving different sources from centuries apart, and heck, by any modern definition, many of the books are likely forgeries.

So there's nothing particularly new here.


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There's no "they" there... (0.00 / 0)
"They" are expurgating the Bible to make it less liberal.  Who are they?  Oh, some Wiki editors.  The play this is getting on the front page of every liberal blog says more about our need to gloat over this hypocrisy than about anything of real moment actually taking place.

Thanks Mike (4.00 / 2)
Nice selection of passages to make the point. One other that should be of interest (from my favorite copy, "New World Translation").- Revelation 22;18 "I am bearing witness to everyone that hears the words of the prophecy of this scroll: If anyone makes an addition to these things, God will add to him the plagues that are written in this scroll; 19 and if anyone takes anything away from the words of the scroll of this prophecy, God will take his portion away from the trees of life and out of the holy city, things which are written about in this scroll.

Government by organized money is just as dangerous as government by organized mob..... FDR

God Spoke to King James?? (4.00 / 1)
I once had a friendly but frustrating conversation with a "born again bible beliving" Christian who insisted that the original Bible was written in English (the King James version) and that my contention that Aramaic was the language of Christ's time was liberal propiganda.  Oh well...

Editing the Bible | 48 comments
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