White House to Fox: "I Wish I Knew How To Quit You"

by: Adam Bink

Mon Oct 19, 2009 at 16:15


Last week, in the midst of the Obama Administration's smacking of all of us as "internet left fringe", they gave me some HopeTM when Anita Dunn decided to engage in something of a war against Fox. I wrote at the time:

Simultaneously, White House Communications Director Anita Dunn has engaged in something of a week-long war this past week against FOX News, on the record. Earlier she said FOX is "opinion journalism masquerading as news" to TIME Magazine, then followed up on CNN yesterday, saying FOX is "either the research arm or the communications arm of the Republican Party", then did an interview with the New York Times published today, saying "We're going to treat them the way we would treat an opponent... As they are undertaking a war against Barack Obama and the White House, we don't need to pretend that this is the way that legitimate news organizations behave."

And here's the real money quote from a NYTimes interview she did:

Ms. Dunn [...] stressed that administration officials would still talk to Fox, and that Mr. Obama was likely to be interviewed on the network in the future. But, she added, "we're not going to legitimize them as a news organization."

Then, yesterday, Axelrod and Emanuel, appearing on the Sunday talk shows, confirmed they would allow WH officials to continue to appear on FOX.

The whole thing seems rather akin to spanking FOX and sending them to their room. As a strategic matter, is this effective? FOX's senior vice president for programming, as well as Roger Ailes, both have said they like it when the White House attacks them, in terms of how it helps their ratings and appeal among their demographic, which voted 88% for Bush in 2004. I actually believe them. On the other hand, there are other Americans who listen to the White House's comments and tune out FOX. It might be a little of both.

But what this comes across to me as akin to is not finishing what you started. Does the White House actually believe that if they send FOX to their room, FOX will ask fewer biased questions, Glenn Beck will talk about how the stimulus is working, etc.? And if my theory is right, and the White House's comments get Democrats and independents to stop watching FOX, and get hard-core Republicans to watch FOX even more... then, um, in terms of their audience, aren't they even more of what Dunn called an opponent, a research/communications arm of the Republican Party? And if that's the case, then why continue going on? Hell, why doesn't Obama start going to state Republican conventions? Same demographic, same biased questions, same communications arm of the Party. I have trouble finding the difference, with the exception that Obama might get booed. On the other hand, that might play into his team's brilliant strategy to not appear as a captive of the movement left or movement right.

Dunn said "we're not going to legitimize them as a news organization." What doesn't make sense about that statement and then today's news is that legitimizing is appearing on FOX. If I formed a liberal talk cable TV station from scratch today, my legitimacy would only go up if I got a White House official to appear for an interview on my program. Otherwise I would just be considered fringe.

Now, you can argue that FOX is already considered "mainstream". The objective, then, is to fringe-ify FOX, which is what Dunn was trying to do. Either Axelrod and Emanuel undercut her altogether, or this White House is doing a job half-assed.

Adam Bink :: White House to Fox: "I Wish I Knew How To Quit You"

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We can't pick and choose where (0.00 / 0)
we follow the "don't judge them by their words, judge them by their actions" mantra many of us use on the admin regarding the PO, DADT and other issues.

Chris Wallace said that the WH refused to have someone on his show and has been pretty straightforward with that when he's tried to get someone on. Of course when they're asked if they will never come on Fox by media shills like Howard Kurtz or John King, they say sometime in the future an appearance on that network may happen. I get the feeling that has more to do with them not being tagged with the "only go on channels where people agree with them" label rather than them making promises to appear on Fox.


There's another awful possibility.... (0.00 / 0)
Rahm Emanuel runs some numbers, and Dunn becomes the latest in a long string of truth-tellers to be flung under the bus. Watch and see what happens after a couple of days of this, including -- ta-da -- Glenn Beck's upcoming morality play on the subject, which, according to Digby, he's already promising to unveil this very evening. (He's such a tease, that one. I think he must have trained under Tammy Faye Bakker. Oops, did I really say under?)

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re: numbers (0.00 / 0)
Rahm Emanuel runs some numbers

like?


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Like the usual numbers, that's what numbers (0.00 / 0)
Is this hurting us? Is this helping us? Can we roll Fox News and take them out of the game? Polls of voters, reactions within the party. Then again, this is such an obvious trial balloon, maybe it's more like: Who's for us? Who's against us? Who can we count on? Who can we not?

If the count comes up negative enough, someone will want blood. Dodd's will do. Do you doubt that Emanuel -- and the President himself, for that matter -- are capable of such things? Hell, maybe Dodd's in on it herself, and gets a villa on the Amalfi coast out of it if it all goes south. (That last is a joke, okay? Most Obama soldiers appear willing to fall on their swords for free.)


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oh, thanks (0.00 / 0)
doubt? no, no

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The problem is confusing action for words. We absolutely should judge their words - because they matter. Their words can legitimate Fox, or wingnuts, or particular arguments. This matters even if their deeds do not match their words.

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