President Burris!

by: Chris Bowers

Mon Oct 19, 2009 at 17:15


President Obama may not be demanding a public option, but his replacement in the Senate, Roland Burris, is now saying he will vote against any bill without one:

For Democrats determined to get a health care bill, Sen. Roland Burris is like the house guest who couldn't be refused, won't soon be leaving and poses a plausible threat of ruining holiday dinner.

Suddenly, he can no longer be ignored.

The Illinois Democrat, appointed by disgraced former Gov. Rod Blagojevich, says he'll only vote for a bill to provide health care to millions more Americans as long as it allows the government to sell insurance in competition with private insurers.

And he says he won't compromise.

"I would not support a bill that does not have a public option," Burris, 72, said in a recent interview with The Associated Press. "That position will not change."

Can we start saying President Burris? Not just yet.

First, you would think that a proclamation like this from a Democratic Senator would get more attention.  However, Roland Burris is only listed in 18 news stories on Google today, compared with 68 for Olympia Snowe (as of 4:15 pm eastern). Such a discrepancy strongly indicates that the national media simply doesn't believe Roland Burris--or really any other progressive, for that matter--when they claim they will bring down Democratic legislation because it isn't strong enough.  If reporters and political types actually believed Burris, this would be a banner headline for dozens of national news outlets.

Second, one Democratic Senator opposing any health care reform bill without a public option is not enough to defeat any such bill, even in the 60-vote culture of the Senate.  Given that President Snowe is still dangling the prospect of her support before the Democratic leadership, it would take two Senators (and, given Susan Collins, arguably three) for this to be an effective block.  So, Roland Burris isn't enough, but if he were joined by another (hopefully more credible) Senator, then maybe we would really have something.

If someone in the Senate wishes to seize it, the opportunity is wide open. Last week, Senators Rockefeller and Wyden thought about it, but ultimately took a pass.

Of course, even if another Dem was to vow to vote against any health care bill that lacked a public option, it is still actually possible to pass a health care reform bill without a public option through the Senate.  Reconciliation only requires 51 votes, is very much on the table right now, and can be used for non-public option health care bills, too.

Part of me would actually kind of like to see a bill without a public option pass through reconciliation.  If this happened, it would simultaneously destroy the 60-vote process lie, and also clarify that the Democratic leadership simply wasn't pushing hard enough for the public option (right now, it remains unclear to me whether or not they are with us on this).  Then again, we also wouldn't have a public option in that scenario, and satisfied recriminations are a poor substitute for potentially transformative legislation.

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President Burris! | 33 comments
makes perfect sense (4.00 / 2)
and fits with the observation that Senators care more about manners and getting along than taking a tough stand. But Burris is short timer with little chance at a Senate legacy. This is his legacy. And one vote is significant, even with Snowe, because of various Conservadems.

Now, who will join him? Another chance to redeem yourself for the Bush years Nelson Rockefeller.


Of all the corrupt governors in America (4.00 / 1)
why did only Blago and Spitzer go down?

They resisted the banks.

Upwards of 50 would have been nailed were we to accept the null hypothesis.


Makes you wonder if corruption isn't much more rampant (0.00 / 0)
and Blago and Spitzer are the ones that the banks decided to put in line.  It would make a swell conspiracy theory if both of their crimes weren't so blatant.  

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Spitzer didn't really resist the banks when he was governor (0.00 / 0)


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Oh, c'mon (4.00 / 1)
I heard stock brokers in Jersey repeatedly attack Spitzer when he was AG of New York like he was a cross between Hitler and the Devil.

A few member of the stock market crew invested $2.1 million of their own money to get Spitzer buying private ivestigators to find something.  They got him all right.

This was a vendetta and the brokers got their "head."  Ps- These guys were high muckety mucks at some of the same firms that fed at the public trough not so long afterwards.


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When he was AG, yes (0.00 / 0)
when he became Governor, he began coddling them and forming alliances with them.  

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And, did they play along? (0.00 / 0)
As if nothing had happened before? I'm asking seriously, I dunno. Haven't paid that much attention to Spitzer, even though I like him in general. And imho, from my more sexually liberal European point of view, the craze about his escapades with the hooker was hypocritical and ridiculous. This was a problem between Spitzer and his wife and not a public business at all.

Let it be said by our children's children that when we were tested, we refused to let this journey end, that we did not turn back, nor did we falter

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yeah (4.00 / 3)
at least Blago was willing to fight for some things he and we wanted

Blago: I want health care for kids.
Legislature: No.
Blago: Fuck you. He does it.

Blago: I want to expand kids health-care.
Legislature: You don't have authority.
Blago: Fuck you. He does it.

Blago: I want free bus fares for seniors.
Legislature: Can't do it.
Blago: Fuck you. He does it.

Seems Obama needs some of that spine.


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hmm, I don't think I want Obama to do that (0.00 / 0)
Mussolini made the trains run on time, didn't make him a saint.  

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Don't worry, (0.00 / 0)
he won't.

Montani semper liberi

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Don't worry, (0.00 / 0)
he won't.

Montani semper liberi

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Obama will never stick up for the little guy. (0.00 / 0)
Only torturers, insurance companies and Wall Street thugs.

Watch.

Montani semper liberi


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I don't care for the feelings of the right (4.00 / 1)


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Yup... (4.00 / 1)
...Grayson is next on the block.  Just as Nader was chased around and accused before, and Edwards was marginalized before the baby, as are any others that pose an identifiable and/or rallying threat to money interests.

I'm not CT, but I do think Obama's presidency was pre-ordained much like Reagan's.  This is arguably an empty-vessel presidency much like Reagan's.


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Don't we have our own "noise machine" ? (4.00 / 1)
Why can't these types of stories be pumped in volume? Someone should get him to sign off on it and then keep waving it around until it gets attention. Given how tight the votes will be, it could have a significant impact, especially on other senators who have similar feelings. The more media attention it gets, the more other senators might get behind this and create an effective bargaining position.

It figures it's Burris, the man with nothing to lose, but why not Kennedy's replacement as well? Get all the place holders in line, what do they care? A placeholder block would be sweet justice to these overinflated, puffed up egos.  


He just doesn't have a lot of personal credibility (4.00 / 2)
And his natural allies in this, the netroots, spent so long making fun of him and distancing themselves, that they are likely (and understandably) cautious about embracing him.

It would be pretty funny if a vote failed because of Burris.  I definitely get the impression that he doesn't give a shit.


Time for us to get over it (0.00 / 0)
Sure, he's corrupt, but at least he's on our side on the issues, and isn't some sell-out centrist like Melissa Bean or Dan Lipinski, even though he could easily be so since he's not running for reelection.

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can't Bernie join in? (4.00 / 4)
Sherrod too...

I believe him (4.00 / 2)
More than anyone, Burris has nothing to lose.  He will never win a real election and has almost no chance to even win a primary.*  But he can become a hero to the netroots, which might at least give the illusion of being electable.

* I haven't look at any actual numbers, but seriously, no way.


maybe he has Tommy Douglas aspirations (0.00 / 0)
whatever he has I'm thankful

now if the guy that occupied Burris' Senate seat before Burris had the same aspirations and was willing to fight for them


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This is actually old news (4.00 / 1)
He made this vow a month ago.

http://www.politico.com/livepu...


A timely reiteration? nt (0.00 / 0)


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If life was fair (0.00 / 0)
this would be true:

If this happened, it would simultaneously destroy the 60-vote process lie, ...

Now, it might among activists, but it doubt it would have any effect in the Village.

Who are the best keepers of the people's liberties? The people themselves. The sacred trust can be no where so safe as in the hands most interested in preserving it.
James Madison


To paraphrase... (0.00 / 0)
You can't believe a thing Roland Burris says, including "and" and "the." And anybody who does is a sucker.

I'll do it better (4.00 / 1)
You can't believe a thing Roland Burris says

You can't believe a thing Rahm Emanuel says


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Getting 12 may be easier than 3 (4.00 / 3)
Frankly, it's easier to oppose passage than to say you're going to filibuster your own party (a Conservadem bluff we should call). I've been saying for a while that we should be whipping to find 12+ senators who will oppose passage -- that is, to deny 50 votes for a bill w/o a public option.

A small dissent from Chris -- this is on the entire caucus, not leadership and whether they are with us. A 52 person caucus (and senate body) majority that supports a PO cannot allow leadership to overrule them. Leadership only serves at the pleasure of the membership and the entire Democratic caucus will be a sad sack of impotent worthlessness if 52 of 60 members allow their leader to go against them.

Health care reform = Employer payroll savings = More hiring and more jobs!


Agreed (4.00 / 1)
I just got an identical email from both of my Senators (in CO) asking me to sign a petition to ask the Senate leadership to bring the public option to an up or down vote.  I signed it and then emailed them to join Sen. Burris.

Really wtf are my Senators doing if they think they're doing asking me to do their job for them as if they couldn't influence the workings of the Senate but my signature on a piddly petition could!  They better show some backbone and make this plan of Steve in Sacto a reality.


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Noble Obama, gentle Obama, kind Obama (4.00 / 3)
has said through his aides Rahm and Jarrett that he wants a public option but might not get what he wants. Whether the bill has a public option or not he wants the bill.

http://tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo...

Can we please stop talking about Harry Reid, and the Blue Dogs, and Blanche Lincoln and the Republicans. The blame begins and ends at the White House with Obama playing a role he doesn't know the first thing about, namely, leadership.


No (4.00 / 2)
We can certainly blame the White House for its failures of leadership, but that doesn't mean there isn't blame for the rest.  Accountability must lie everywhere - there is no need to choose one actor to blame.  

Who are the best keepers of the people's liberties? The people themselves. The sacred trust can be no where so safe as in the hands most interested in preserving it.
James Madison


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You are certainly right. (4.00 / 1)
I couldn't agree with you more.

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Finally... (4.00 / 2)
Something worthy of Burris'es huge, pre-paid, tombstone -- Defender of Affordable Heath Care.  Hang Tough, Senator, freedom is nothing left to lose!

Couple thoughts. (4.00 / 1)
-Has anyone from the progressive community actually talked to Burris to see where he's coming from? I know the White House has talked to him and it doesn't seem like they're panicking.
-Like you said, if this bill were in real danger I think additional Republican zombies would get activated by their corporate backers to vote for it.
-The way the PO debate has evolved shows the WH was never serious about it as policy. They never focused on the details the way people who cared about it would. And I absolutely do blame Obama 100% for this. He was in a position to define the PO as a mainstream proposal and he repeatedly declined to do so.

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