We're #1! We're #1!

by: AdamGreen

Thu Oct 22, 2009 at 02:29


At FiveThirtyEight.com, Nate Silver broke down the top ten reasons the public health insurance option is gaining momentum.

In a game of "rock, paper, scissors, bloggers, Washington Post," bloggers/online activists definitely trump Washington Post!

The full list (drum roll please)...

1. The tireless, and occasionally tiresome, advocacy on behalf of liberal bloggers and interest groups for the public option. Whatever you think of their tactics -- I haven't always agreed with them -- the sheer amount of focus and energy expended on their behalf has been very important, keeping the issue alive in the public debate.

2. The fact that the CBO thinks it will save money.

3. The seeming inevitability of health care reform, which neuters the voices of those who aren't opposed to the public option per se so much as the entire project of health care reform.

4. The fact that the locus of power has shifted from the Gang of Six -- Bingaman/Conrad/Baucus/Snowe/Grassley/Enzi to the Group of Six -- Pelosi/Dodd/Obama/Reid/Baucus/Snowe.

5. The "innovation" of the opt-in/opt-out family of compromises, which have more liberal "street cred" than co-ops or triggers and are potentially also much more politically advantageous.

6. The fading from memory of the tea party protests and the "government takeover" meme.

7. Polls in myriad swing states and swing districts showing the public option is reasonably popular in these regions.

8. Constituent letters and e-mails.

9. The insurance industry's "senior moment": forgetting that this isn't 1993 and that the shelf life of a misleading study would be measured in hours (rather than days or weeks) and would damage its credibility in the process.

10. The Washington Post's somewhat bizarre decision to make its poll showing support for the public option its lede in yesterday's paper, even though public opinion has been fairly steady on the issue for months.

In the words of one of Nate's commenters, "Great, simple article. Loved it."

Speaking of progressive group pressure, I made my first appearance on Rachel Maddow Wed night talking about the PCCC's new ad pressuring Harry Reid. Wuddyathink?

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We're #1! We're #1! | 18 comments
Good job! (4.00 / 4)
I saw you on Rachel M's show tonight, Adam - ya did good! And I thank you, and your campaign, along with all the others who have pushed tirelessly for the reform we so badly need.

For the first time since the 60's, I feel like we are watching as a major shift in our consciousness, our politics, and our democracy unfolds, day by day. These are indeed interesting times, and it is exciting to be living through them.


RE: We're #1! We're #1! (0.00 / 0)
In the words of the Sphinx (Wes Studi) in Mystery Men:

"All others are number two, or lower!"

Tim Wolfe


Let's give credit where it's due! (4.00 / 1)
High on the list should be resolute refusal to deal with the fact that none of the likely "public option" plans will be available to more than a small percentage of the public.

That, along with shunning single-payer advocates, has been a big winner.

And rising up the charts is the misappropriation of "Medicare for All" framing, to further fool people into believing "public option" is an everybody-in, nobody-out program.

All told, it's been a campaign to be proud of!


Dirty politics raises its head, in our favor this time (4.00 / 2)
The Baucus bill is political poison. Young, healthy people without much money are going to hate an overpriced personal option.

That will be a problem no matter what, but the Baucus bill was almost the worst one imaginable.

The state opt-out, though, will come down to "If Republicans want to screw their voters, we'll let them".  


So all this great work... (4.00 / 1)
... explains why [a|the] [Federalist]? [strong|robust] public [health insurance]? [option|plan] is being rebranded as Medicare Part E? Well done.

I am in earnest -- I will not equivocate -- I will not excuse -- I will not retreat a single inch -- AND I WILL BE HEARD.  

THE RACHEL MADDOW SHOW (0.00 / 0)
You were just fine!!!  However, I usually never watch the Rachel Maddow Show.  It's something about her that make for a complete turnoff for me.   Is it those habitual smirks and the "I know so much more than you" attitude?  The first time (and only time) I watched her show...I thought she was a transgender who hadn't quite finished the sex-change operation.  Anyway, your add and your interview probably would have gotten a lot more viewers..if you had run the add and appeared on FoxNews, instead of MSNBC, which I understand that according to ratings....is down near the bottom of the barrel.  Moving on...my own health care insurance is very much the same as what Congress has...so of course, I am not in the least bit interested in "change".  

You're The Asshole Who Called Henry Louise Gates "just another not too bright black man" (0.00 / 0)
So, odds are 10^100 to 1 that Rachel Maddow does know so much more than you.


"You know what they say -- those of us who fail history... doomed to repeat it in summer school." -- Buffy The Vampire Slayer, Season 6, Episode 3

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What's the point of putting an ad on Fox?! (4.00 / 1)
That comment totally discredited your post right off the bat!

Fox News DOES have high ratings, but they are almost exclusively OLD REPUBLICANS who don't want to be exposed to reality. A large part of Republicans won't watch any other network because they're "liberal media" (idiots!) while Democrats and Independents get their news from a wider variety of sources -- including people like me who never watch TV news at all and read all their news on Internet news blogsites together with CNN-online and the national and international International press (BBC, Asia Times, London Times, etc. online).

You could put $50 million worth of advertising on Fox and it would reach nobody worth bothering about. 80% of Republicans are complete ass-hats and HATE any health-care bill. They don't even care what's in it, they're against it. Obama and the Democrats are for it so it can't be any good. That's their idiot view and there's no point trying to reason with such morons.

MSNBC is watched by Democrats and Independents, so that's where to put your ads. Duh!


[ Parent ]
Good job... (4.00 / 2)
Especially in bringing us into the discussion. One mistake I think a lot of progressives have made with Harry Reid is in talking mostly about the inside game in DC. And while he is Majority Leader and theoretically someone who's all about making deals and counting votes, he's ultimately the top Nevada advocate on Capitol Hill. That's why he's always won tough reelection fights like the one he may face next year, and that's what the conversation here in The Silver State is focusing on. By turning the conversation on Reid and health care to "What is Reid doing for Nevadans?", you're doing something that will really get his attention and ultimately (hopefully!) keep motivating him to do the right thing.

The right-wing trolls at Jon Ralston's blog may be self-imploding and Steve Sebelius may be giving you an interesting answer that you weren't expecting, but ultimately your PCCC ad is provoking conversation all over Nevada and it's energizing local progressives to encourage Reid to deliver.

Yes, Virginia, there are progressives in Nevada.


thanks, Andrew (0.00 / 0)
Would love to hear more about how an ad like this provokes conversation locally, if you'd care to share.

[ Parent ]
Well done. (0.00 / 0)
Good show "old boy".

Hitting Reid Where He Is Most Vulnerable (4.00 / 2)
Progressive Change Campaign Committee's (PCCC) strategy of going right into Reid's district is a model for future progressive victories.

Showing that Reid's constituents favor the public option and that they will vote against him if he fails to support it is the most effective strategy for turning around Congressional Democrats who are poised to flout the popular will.

Nationwide petition drives are useful in a general sense.

But zeroing in on an elected representative's district is a more powerful intervention when a progressive organization like PCCC can use polls to show that the stance representatives take on pending legislation in Congress is going to cause their constituents to defeat them if they seek re-election.

Also, getting a good mix of interventions is key. You, Adam, and your PCCC team, are to be complimented on optimizing all possible levers of influence: nationwide petitions, targeted TV ads in a representative's district, telephone polls and appearances on major progressive TV broadcasts like Rachel Maddow.

PCCC's excellent work on Reid shows that savvy progressives with high-tech voter mobilization and campaigning skills have the potential to create game-changing political momentum even in the face of overwhelming opposition.

Nancy Bordier is the author of Re-Inventing Democracy: How U.S. Voters Can Get Control of Government and Restore Popular Sovereignty in America.  


good job (4.00 / 1)
very clear and articulated points, broke down the argument very well

whatever you think people owe you, that is what you owe people

You Did Well, My Friend (0.00 / 0)
In fact, you were so cool that I found myself questioning, "Wait is this really the first time Adam's been on Radchel Maddow?"

"You know what they say -- those of us who fail history... doomed to repeat it in summer school." -- Buffy The Vampire Slayer, Season 6, Episode 3

gaining momentum is nice (0.00 / 0)
but i'm still waiting to see exactly what we end up with, before i get triumphant and congratulatory. i know there are a lot of people here who believe single payer is "impossible," or going with the "public option" is the only way we'll step towards it. but reading the details on the MadMax plan reminded me that there are still plenty of ways the dem leadership can phuque it up, and with serious political consequences.

it's a good day when the blogosphere can inject some sanity into the sausage making process. but it's not going to pay for the trip to the urgent care i just had to make. really, it's that simple to me. will the "public option" give me health care? not insurance, not another bill i'm required to pay, but actual care? regardless of my "pre existing" conditions, and without interference from insurance companies that makes receiving actual care more difficult?

so far, most of the dem leadership cannot explicitly answer my questions. that's my problem with the way this whole "public option" debate has gone down. i believe too many progressives are once again paying too much attention to the speechifyin', and not enough to the details of specific policy proposals. dems sure do seem to be going out of their way to keep them from us.  


Great Job - We're up to $57K on the ad! - Question (0.00 / 0)
Got to get that sucker to $100K and really put the fear of god into our sock puppet of a majority leader.

One thing about the segment - neither you nor Rachel touched on the idea that Reid can reduce the threshhold to 50 votes by unilaterally putting a robust public option into the bill. Isn't that what we're trying to pressure him to do?

http://www.actblue.com/page/ha...


hmm... (0.00 / 0)
are you referring to reconciliation?

If so, that's not our goal. Our goal is him getting the votes needed to 50 by demanding that his fellow Democrats say up front that they will not support a Republican filibuster. If we can get an up-or-down vote, only 50 votes are needed.


[ Parent ]
So When Working Class Americans (0.00 / 0)
Have to pay 1/4to 1/3 of their disposable income for crappy private insurance that won't actually provide access to healthcare (and that has little to no cost control), they should be sure to thank "progressives".  

I'm sure they will, just not perhaps in the way progressives are anticipating.


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