thanks (4.00 / 1)

thanks for this. can this be emailed out to the openleft community?

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by: art3 @ Thu Oct 22, 2009 at 20:54:33 PM CDT

The timing is difficult (4.00 / 1)

But we might be able to get something together in the morning.

Other, larger groups are moving.

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by: Chris Bowers @ Thu Oct 22, 2009 at 21:01:34 PM CDT

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good (4.00 / 1)

goood. im calling moore. my family is from and still lives there. i know a staffer there. i mean katpru? massa? good grief!

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by: art3 @ Thu Oct 22, 2009 at 21:07:24 PM CDT

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no Boswell (IA-03) on that list (4.00 / 3)

I hope that means he's a yes because of the deal on Medicare reimbursement rates. Or is he a firm no? I couldn't get an answer out of his spokeswoman today.

Join the Iowa progressive community at Bleeding Heartland.

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by: desmoinesdem @ Thu Oct 22, 2009 at 21:02:52 PM CDT

who are the New Dems on that list? (0.00 / 0)

i didn't see Congressman Jim Himes (CT-4) on that list.  i just called his office and left a message in support of Medicare+5.

he's a New Dem, unfortunately.  they are largely predictable on financial matters but on Medicare+5 vs. negotiated rates i don't know where they stand.  besides Melissa Bean who are the others?

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by: Gaucho @ Thu Oct 22, 2009 at 23:12:09 PM CDT

In July, the new dems signed a letter... (4.00 / 1)

....in support of a public option on medicare rates... it was a pleasant surprise to everyone.

REID: Voting against us was never part of our arrangement!
SPECTER: I am altering the deal! Pray I don't alter it any further!
REID: This deal keeps getting worse all the time!

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by: lord_mike @ Thu Oct 22, 2009 at 23:42:06 PM CDT

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I'm personally skeptical of Med +5 (4.00 / 1)

but regardless, there are votes for that public option that come from Democrats most of us are not expecting.

Chet Edwards comes to mind, John Salazar too, supposedly Frank Kratovil is coming around to it.

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by: DTOzone @ Thu Oct 22, 2009 at 23:47:57 PM CDT

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How can anyone be skeptical of administered rates? (0.00 / 0)

This is the only system that has ever been effective at controlling costs around the world. The success or failure of reform hangs on this issue.

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by: bmull @ Fri Oct 23, 2009 at 04:26:03 AM CDT

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The Medicare + 5 option does not have consignment... (0.00 / 0)

...i.e. Doctors don't have to accept the patients, and at reimbursemnts way lower than private rates.. well, they won't.

That's the big flaw in Medicare + 5

REID: Voting against us was never part of our arrangement!
SPECTER: I am altering the deal! Pray I don't alter it any further!
REID: This deal keeps getting worse all the time!

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by: lord_mike @ Fri Oct 23, 2009 at 04:39:56 AM CDT

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That's exactly why I'm skeptical of it (4.00 / 1)

The worst possible thing that can happen is a public option failure where those on it receive terrible care, have a hard time seeing a doctor, etc. It would delegitimize the whole thing and give conservative fodder to use to dismantle or privatize it.  

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by: DTOzone @ Fri Oct 23, 2009 at 10:53:53 AM CDT

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John Dingell (4.00 / 1)

is my rep and while he's NOT an undecided I just left a message with his LD asking him to push strongly for Medicare +5. I hope it helps.

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by: Spartacus X @ Thu Oct 22, 2009 at 23:17:49 PM CDT

Are you sure about this Chris? (4.00 / 1)

I only ask because I know Pelosi wants pad. I find it odd that they apparently had the votes this afternoon, but not now.

I get the feeling they have the votes already, but Pelosi doesn't want it to pass by the skin of it's teeth, she wants 230ish votes. They're making us whip votes they don't need, just so when it comes to a vote, and it passes by a larget than expected margin, everyone goes "oh wow, and we thought it would be close!"

Not that it makes this any less important, of course, but something to keep in mind.  

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by: DTOzone @ Thu Oct 22, 2009 at 23:42:13 PM CDT

Also about the list (4.00 / 1)

this is for a Med+5 public option, correct?

I was surpised to see Tanner, Boucher, Pomeroy and Holden on here because I had considered them gone on the public option all together.

Also Mitchell leaning no? I had him pegged as a solid yes on this.

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by: DTOzone @ Thu Oct 22, 2009 at 23:56:24 PM CDT

public option (4.00 / 1)

Those in Congress who are pushing for the strongest version of the public option need to remind the centrist waffler colleagues that starting strong allows for a little movement.  If the House sends an already compromised bill to the conference committee, it will get more watered down there.

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by: global yokel @ Fri Oct 23, 2009 at 00:46:03 AM CDT

It doesnt matter if it can pass the House (0.00 / 0)

The problem is the Senate, where it appears to have no chance.  

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by: BobTegas @ Fri Oct 23, 2009 at 00:54:42 AM CDT

Room to negotiate (4.00 / 1)

Everyone knows that M+5 won't pass the Senate.  But if it passes the House it gives more room to negotiate.

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by: Mark Matson @ Fri Oct 23, 2009 at 01:56:15 AM CDT

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I wouldn't count out Medicare+5% (4.00 / 1)

because negotiated rates won't work and Dems will get blamed for this.

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by: bmull @ Fri Oct 23, 2009 at 04:37:12 AM CDT

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Did my part... (0.00 / 0)

...got a few others to call in tomorrow... hope it ends up working!

REID: Voting against us was never part of our arrangement!
SPECTER: I am altering the deal! Pray I don't alter it any further!
REID: This deal keeps getting worse all the time!

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by: lord_mike @ Fri Oct 23, 2009 at 03:10:01 AM CDT

The article at thehill.com suggests that there is some confusion in numbers... (0.00 / 0)

...including liberal "no's" who are upset about other portions of the bill, and a few others who are confused about the particulars.  Hopefully, that can be all ironed out this morning and we get a good result!

REID: Voting against us was never part of our arrangement!
SPECTER: I am altering the deal! Pray I don't alter it any further!
REID: This deal keeps getting worse all the time!

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by: lord_mike @ Fri Oct 23, 2009 at 03:30:06 AM CDT