Ben Nelson Does Not Support the Opt-Out

by: Chris Bowers

Fri Oct 23, 2009 at 12:00


I know the focus is on the House today, but... Ben Nelosn apparently does not support the opt-out (more in the extended entry):
Chris Bowers :: Ben Nelson Does Not Support the Opt-Out

The state opt-out provision is considered a possible way to get moderate Democrats to support a bill with a public option. However, the spokesman for Democratic Sen. Ben Nelson of Nebraska, a key moderate, said Nelson opposes the idea of a national public option with an opt-out for the states.

In addition, the idea is opposed by Sen. Olympia Snowe of Maine, the only Republican to support any kind of health care proposal so far. Snowe's spokesman, John Gentzel, confirmed to CNN her opposition to the modified public option.

That is a little puzzling, given that on Tuesday Nelson said:

"Well, there are different kinds of public options.... What was interesting in the poll numbers that I saw, that while there's support for public option generally, generically, when you start talking about it specifically as it relates to states being able to opt out or opt in, have their own, the support overwhelmingly goes up to 76 percent."

So I guess Nelson opposes an idea that he thinks has 76% support. That wasn't even what the poll he cited actually question actually said, but it is what Nelson thinks it said. The question that got 76% actually read:

"What if this government-sponsored plan was run by state governments and was available only to people who did not have a choice of affordable private insurance?"

Maybe someone in his office told him that when opt-outs didn't have 76% support, he decided to oppose it.  Or, maybe he was actually just favoring the opt-ins. Or, maybe he just like rejecting compromise offers, and then demanding even further compromises.

Whatever it is, Nelson is back on the table as one of the main obstacles to a public option. After quite a few steps forward, here is another step backwards.


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its pretty simple (0.00 / 0)
All Democratic members much be told they have to vote for cloture.  If they don't they will see primary challenges that are well funded by the national party.

That will never happen. (4.00 / 1)
I think the most we could hope for (and even this is a stretch) would be for the national party to stay out of it and refuse to support the incumbent against a netroots funded primary challenger.

As for the "puzzling" aspect of Nelson's behavior, it is only puzzling if you assume intellectual honesty plays the slightest part in any of Nelson's statements. He works for the insurance corporations. He will do whatever needs to be done to kill the public option. But he knows that makes him look bad to voters, so he makes positive statements when he thinks it won't affect the outcome, and then says something different when the ground shifts and whatever he said he likes has a chance of succeeding. It's not puzzling; it's bullshit. And all the conservative corporate whores are playing the same game, regardless of whether there's a D or an R in front of their name.

Ben Nelson is concerned about Ben Nelson. To get his vote, the ledger of punishments and rewards for Ben Nelson needs to shift. If he screws us and helps his corporate masters, he will be richly rewarded by them. I think our best leverage point is on Harry Reid because he is most vulnerable. If Harry Reid will not make life unpleasant for a filibustering Nelson, the anti-Reid ads should keep running in Nevada.

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Even Russ Feingold (0.00 / 0)
voted with the Republicans to sustain a Republican filibuster yesterday, so, you know, they don't care about that.


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But would he filibuster it? (4.00 / 1)
That is the magic question, which I don't think is answered here.

He says he hasn't made any threats to filibuster (0.00 / 0)
"A state public option I can support," said Nelson, although he added that he hasn't made any threats to oppose the bill based on the public option.
http://www.politico.com/news/s...


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I can't tell how much of this is (0.00 / 0)
ego-driven. Just the need to be seen as the Most Important Vote, the Median Senator Who Gets Discussed In Very Important Publications. I suspect almost as much as is driven by campaign contributions.

Really? (0.00 / 0)
I hate to say 'I told you so' but I told you so.

Nelson is cought in a pickle (0.00 / 0)
because as a democrat, he represents Omaha, Nebraska.  Omaha is the per capita, the wealthiest city in America.  More millionaires there than anywhere else.  Mostly old cattle money, insurance, and other industry.  Most of his constituents can afford health insurance, have health insurance, and don't want any changes regarding thier insurance.  Nelson has been around Nebraska politics along time and and extremely well liked and very popular.  He does not want to jeopardize that.  He's not going to tip his hand until the very last second of this process.

Further proof (0.00 / 0)
That the opt-out is really about blue state progressives wanting to throw red staters overboard out of spite, than it is about winning this fight.

I think it's obvious (0.00 / 0)
that Ben Nelson will always be making trouble for us.  That's the one constant with him.






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