"Governing A Closely Divided Country" That Doesn't Exist

by: Paul Rosenberg

Sat Oct 24, 2009 at 10:30


On Thursday, David wrote:

When the New York Times' John Harwood reported that a top Obama adviser told him that progressives "need to take off the pajamas, get dressed and realize that governing a closely divided country is complicated and difficult," it was a rejoinder that expressed far more than Village disdain for grassroots pressure and activism. It represented a deeper assertion, pervasive in political circles,  that says we all must be patient with the Obama White House because we're only 10 months into the new administration. "Governing a closely divided country is complicated and difficult" is a euphemism for both "stop pushing so hard," "don't expect so much change so fast," "he's trying to do too much too fast" and every other similar dollop of conventional wisdom.

David took aim at the counsel for patience, pointing out how quickly Reagan moved in his nine months in office.  But what about the claim of a "closely divided country?"  Does this look "closely divided"?

     

If you're not pre-hypnotized, the above charts look none too "closely divided".  But, you might wonder, how do the current House and Senate look in historical comparison?  Since popular election of Senators started in 1914, we've had 48 Congresses.  The current Senate is tied for the 13th most lopsided majority, in the top 1/3 of the size of Senate majorities (more in the extended entry):

Paul Rosenberg :: "Governing A Closely Divided Country" That Doesn't Exist

There have been 16 Senates with majorities of less than 55 votes.  While one could plausibly argue that all these were "closely divided"--at least in a relative sense, they represent the bottom 1/3 of the size of Senate majorities--the exact opposite of the group that the current Senate majority belongs to.

Lopsided House majorities are noticeably more common, but the current House majority is still in the top half of House majorities over the same time period--21st, to be exact:

What's more, the smallest 16 House majorities include all six Republican majorities from 1995 through 2008.  How often did we hear about those majorities being "closely divided"???

Looking at presidential elections since 1914, the 2008 election does look relatively close--it's just 14th out of 24:

But re-election margins tend to be much bigger than first-term elections.  And divided government has been the dominant pattern since 1968,  If compare Obama's election in 2008 to other first-term presidential elections since 1964, only George H.W. Bush got a larger majority:

Not to mention the fact that Obama was elected as part of Democratic trifecta--quite the contrary of George H.W. Bush or Ronald Reagan. In short, the record is clear.  The 2008 Democratic trifecta represents an electoral victory that's solidly in the top 1/2 to 1/3.  Given that the largest majorities in this time period came during the New Deal Era, and relied on a substantial number of Southern Democrats, this numerical measure is, if anything, an under-representation of how significant the current majorities are.

Finally, there is the most basic measure of all--how the American people identify politically.  Here's Pollster.com's chart of party identification over the past year.  While independents play an increasingly significant role, there is nothing remotely close to parity between Democrats and Republicans:

Note in particular the lack of any great surge around the August recess, when a tremendous conservative astroturf effort was launched. The didn't even get back to the level acheived in June, and they're now down almost a full three points since then, as can be clearly seen in my summary chart of month-by-month averages of the above data. Note how the Democrats have been increasing their dominance over this time period since one year ago, quite the opposite of the Versailles "Dems are doomed" narrative that a few trolls around here have been pushing of late:

Republicans may gain some ground in Congress next year--particularly if Dems continue running away from their base, and from positions that are more popular with voters than they are.  But that won't be because of any great surge in Republican Party ranks.  It will be because of Democratic base demoralization--just as in 1994, plus a relatively small energized GOP base.  This in turn would reflect elite political priorities, rather than the politics of the nation as a whole.  And that is the only way that the modern GOP can continue to survive, much less thrive.


For reference, here are all 48 congresses, listed in order of the size of majority, first sorted by Senate majority size, then by House majority size:


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As you point out, it isn't a deeply divided country. (4.00 / 4)
The only deep divide in this country is between corporations, their corporate owned politicians, and the rest of us.  Obama is hiding behind and using bipartisanship and divided country as an excuse for his lousy performance in office so far.  He is worse than Clinton and Bush's third term.   I don't know how much worse than that a Democrat neoliberal can get.  

I dunno… (4.00 / 2)
...I think if we look at it as a binary thing, then no, the country isn't "closely divided." The reality of what party affiliation or non-affiliation means is probably a bit more complicated than that, which is why we have a significant enough number of ConservaDems to stall things. And I think Obama's caution--which will move from troubling to untenable if we don't get a fairly effective public option in the healthcare bill--is kinda predicated on that.

"This ain't for the underground. This here is for the sun." -Saul Williams

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Obama: Snatching Defeat from the Jaws of Victory? (4.00 / 4)
As Paul correctly points out, the country is not divided.

Pundits and duplicitous politicians like Obama who claim that it is so closely divided that bipartisanship is needed to pass legislation (and water it down in the process) are using these claims to camouflage the fact that they are doing the bidding of their corporate campaign financiers who do not want the legislation passed.

Just as House and Senate leaders were on the verge of crafting passable bills that include a public option with an opt out provision, which seems like the only compromise that could pass both houses and survive the reconciliation process, the dead hand of Obama reaches out to squelch the public option by announcing that he favors a trigger plan that would kill it for the foreseeable future.

Now we know the truth. Obama was remaining on the sidelines throughout the bil crafting process because he was dead sure that progressives could not create enough of a backlash to force lawmakers like Reid to include a public option. Now that they have and Reid appears to be listening to his constituents who say they will vote against his re-election if he doesn't put a public option in the final bill, Obama and Rahm are showing that inside their gloved fists is an unyielding resolve to kill it.

If they succeed, they will be creating a rift inside the Democratic Party that may well lead either to a primary challenge against Obama if he runs again, a third party challenge, or both.

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The loneliness of the long distance president (4.00 / 4)
Like the protagonist of the similarly named novel and as some have pointed out, Obama seems determined to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory. Unlike that protagonist, though, his reasons seem less clear. Is this pent-up man vs. world anger expressed passive-aggressively (and, of course, self-destructively), or are the reasons less dramatic, e.g. fear/need of special intersts, political foolishness, etc.?

What does Olympia Snowe's vote really mean to Obama? It's obviously not genuine bipartisanship. He'd had to be massively stupid and/or crazy to believe that.

"Those who stand for nothing fall for anything...Mankind are forever destined to be the dupes of bold & cunning imposture" -- Alexander Hamilton


I'm Leaning Toward Massively Stupid At The Moment (4.00 / 4)
Though I agree it's not genuine bipartisanship.  It's the mere appearance of bipartisanship, which others will easily dismiss (one Republican?)  But that only makes it more massively stupid.

Are there other, deeper motives as well?  Oh, certainly.  But being guided by them, instead of the obvious policy necessity is nothing less than stupid, stupid, stupid!

"You know what they say -- those of us who fail history... doomed to repeat it in summer school." -- Buffy The Vampire Slayer, Season 6, Episode 3


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The mainstream media… (0.00 / 0)
...is overplaying Sen. Snowe just like they overplayed the importance of Baucus and everything else that suggests a rift within the Democratic, liberal or whatever-you-wanna-call-its base. The "sourcing" on every hot-button headline story is just plain bullshit. As near as I can tell, it's the corporate overlords who run the media who are pushing an agenda. Obama has done plenty that is worthy of criticism, but there is nothing--and I truly mean nothing--that tells me he is making some of the moves on healthcare that are being implied.

"This ain't for the underground. This here is for the sun." -Saul Williams

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True Re Media Overplaying, But (4.00 / 6)
Obama has done nothing but play into this sort of thing since before he was inaugurated.

"You know what they say -- those of us who fail history... doomed to repeat it in summer school." -- Buffy The Vampire Slayer, Season 6, Episode 3

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Following eight-years of (4.00 / 2)
...criminal "my way or the highway" governance, I think that at 10-months (and only two after the nightmare of August), the first African-American president in a country that is racially-charged is still thinking a whole lot about being perceived as governing for "all the people"--even Rupublicans who don't like him. He's just hardwired that way.

It's not even that the corporate media isn't on Obama's side so much as they're not on "our" (the progressive) side, so I still feel the way to move the president is to be noisy and vocal about everything. Months ago, they were reporting that folks with health insurance were lukewarm about healthcare reform, which has proven to be inaccurate. I think continuing to push back--and hard--is the answer.

"This ain't for the underground. This here is for the sun." -Saul Williams


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What does Olympia Snowe's vote really mean to Obama? (0.00 / 0)
Guaranteed passage.

Without Snowe you are playing a game of chicken with a couple of conservative Democrats, daring them to support a filibuster.  With Snowe you don't have that issue and passage of the bill is guaranteed.

For those that believe the public option is extremely important the risk assessment is obvious.  For those who believe in 50+1 passage the risk assessment is obvious.  For Obama and Beltway conventional wisdom, who believe 60 Senate votes are required and the Public Option is only a nice to have addition to an already good policy, then that game of chicken looks like a very bad idea.

Is there any truth to all the other reasons people push on this site?  Perhaps a bit, even if wildly overblown by many here.  But guaranteed passage is the main reason Obama wants Snowe on board.  


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If Obama Believes Everything David Broder Tells Him (0.00 / 0)
Then he's even more of an idiot than he otherwise seems.

What Republican ever took David Broder seriously, except as a useful stooge?

"You know what they say -- those of us who fail history... doomed to repeat it in summer school." -- Buffy The Vampire Slayer, Season 6, Episode 3


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Please explain (0.00 / 0)
Are you claiming that David Broder is responsible for today's filibuster norms?  Of course, it isn't really Obama's believe that we need to worry about, it is the belief of those who would join in the filibuster.

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Broder's The Symbol (4.00 / 3)
A lot of folks who supported Obama thought they were voting for change, not for meek acceptance of the status quo, of which Broder is the symbol.

Under Obama, however, we're getting actual backsliding, since it's long been a customary norm that everyone in a party caucus routinely supports the leadership on cloture votes.  That doesn't mean that it always happens (plenty of Dixiecrats voted against cloture to end filibustering civil rights legislation).  But it is a norm, it's what's expected, and those who don't support their party's leadership are the ones who have to explain themselves. Now, however, all that is out the window, and Obama and Reid won't even consider threatening to retaliate against disloyal caucus members.

The issue here isn't Versailles so much as it is Obama's unquestioning acceptance of Versailles--even as it becomes deliberately more hostile to progressive legislation.

And, of course, that doesn't even begin to address the issue of passing what's needed through reconciliation, so that the filibuster becomes moot.

Bottom line: if Obama really wanted to pass health care with a public option, he would be marshaling a whole different set of arguments, and bringing a very different range of pressure to bear on various Senators. And that's what's got people steamed.

"You know what they say -- those of us who fail history... doomed to repeat it in summer school." -- Buffy The Vampire Slayer, Season 6, Episode 3


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You LIE! (4.00 / 1)
Obama is a brilliant and decent man who's got it all figured out and you're just trying to smear his good name because you're jealous and some kid beat you up in the 4th grade!

Plus you obviously don't value your freedoms! (Or is it hackneyed bromides, I forget.)

"Those who stand for nothing fall for anything...Mankind are forever destined to be the dupes of bold & cunning imposture" -- Alexander Hamilton


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Guaranteed passage of WHAT? (4.00 / 2)
A watered-down bill with a never likely to be implemented Potemkin Public Option? Why not rename it the Gift of the Magi Health Care Reform Bill of 2009? And spare me the "Well that's still better than nothing" nonsense. Obama and Dems were elected with a wide margin and big mandate for REAL change and control two branches of government.

If they can't pass pretty much any damn bill they want, it's because they either don't WANT to pass it, or lack the smarts or guts to do it. Do you actually believe that Ben Nelson or Mary Landrieu's votes are harder to get than Snowe's (and as Paul points out, reconciliation makes all these considerations moot)?

There are only two possible defenses of Obama's strategy. One, that it's beyond brilliant. And two, that it really is the best that he could do. The first is beyond ludicrous, the second sheer nonsense that only the politically ignorant could believe in (and which no lack of shills regularly spout, pretending to be honest pragmatists, Broder being their leader).

To believe in publically declared justifications in politics is to be politically naive.

"Those who stand for nothing fall for anything...Mankind are forever destined to be the dupes of bold & cunning imposture" -- Alexander Hamilton


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Just out of curiosity (0.00 / 0)
Did something happen to John Emerson's front-pager from last night? Am I crazy, or was it actually disappeared for some reason?

Are You Crazy??? Look On The Front Page! (0.00 / 0)
No, you're not crazy.

It was supposed to go up today at 12:30 PM.  Somehow, the "PM" didn't take (it defaults to AM) and I didn't realize it until I woke up this morning and saw it prematurely on the front page.  So I reset it, and now it's up for real.

"You know what they say -- those of us who fail history... doomed to repeat it in summer school." -- Buffy The Vampire Slayer, Season 6, Episode 3


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Thank you Paul (0.00 / 0)
Now that is what I'm talking about!

And in the subject at hand in (4.00 / 1)
the staffer's b.s. rant...

76% of Americans want a public option.


A similar conclusion would hold (4.00 / 2)
about the lack of division if you look at public opinion on a wide range of issues (as Paul has pointed out a number of times before using GSS data.)

As a general rule, it's best to translate everything said by the corporate media, the chattering class and most public officials like this - whether one is speaking of division, or unity, what is possible or what is considered off the wall, "the public" really means "the Village."  

It's much easier to follow things when you do this as a mental find and replace.

Politics is the art of the possible, but that means you have to think about changing what is possible, not that you have to accept it in perpetuity.


"Closely divided" is a relative term (0.00 / 0)
For example, that 1937 Senate figure of 79 still falls short of Obama's preferred figure of 80 which they proclaimed last January. :)

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Yeah (0.00 / 0)
He didn't make the NBA, either.

"You know what they say -- those of us who fail history... doomed to repeat it in summer school." -- Buffy The Vampire Slayer, Season 6, Episode 3

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Only once (4.00 / 1)
Only once in the era since the popular election of Senators did Republicans have the same kind of "closely divided" majority.  That was in 1921-23 when they had 59 Senate seats (of 96) and 302 House seats.  On one other occassion, they had 270 House members but not the needed Senate votes (1929-31).

If Republicans had this majority they'd be crowing about their historic landslide instead of apologizing for a closely divided country.  After all, when W had far narrower majorities, he governed with an iron hand.

Btw, the chart understates the majorities in years with a stong third party showing like 1992 and 1996.  Clinton won by nuch bigger margins than W.  The last election as close as either of W's in the electoral college was 1916.  Just a guess, but the last one as close as 2000 was probably the election the Republicans stole through the corrupt bargain of (ahem) 1876.  The last time consecutive elections were as close was 1796 and 1800.  That was a closely divided country.  This is not a closely divided country.


Heck! (0.00 / 0)
Reagan was claiming a mandate in 1981, while the Dems still held the House.  And Gingrich claimed one in 1995, even had the press questioning if the President of the United States was "still relevant."  No one asked that about Eisenhower, once the GOP lost its super-ephemeral hold on Congress in 1954.

So, yes, there is just a wee bit of asymmetry there.

"You know what they say -- those of us who fail history... doomed to repeat it in summer school." -- Buffy The Vampire Slayer, Season 6, Episode 3


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Asymmetry yes (0.00 / 0)
but a big part of that is the difference between how the parties behave.  

Republicans treat wins by Republicans as evidence that the voters want conservative policies.

Democrats have often treated wins by Democrats as proof that you have to run to the right to win, because voters want conservative policies (perhaps with a heart, or run by a more competent manager).  


Politics is the art of the possible, but that means you have to think about changing what is possible, not that you have to accept it in perpetuity.


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perhaps, but isn't the flaw here (0.00 / 0)
That we are counting the Blue Dogs, Nelsons, Lincoln, etc. to get such big majorities. IF (I say if) they are against the public option and the like, presto, no huge majority.


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Except among the voters nt (0.00 / 0)


Politics is the art of the possible, but that means you have to think about changing what is possible, not that you have to accept it in perpetuity.

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Optics vs Math (0.00 / 0)
Right.  Paul is correct about the optics and shows in detail how we are not a "closely divided country" right now.  However, the math to get passage in the Senate remains the same.  We have 60 Senators in the Democratic caucus, but we haven't put point to test, yet.  60 is only a magical number if the caucus holds and Democrats agree not to join filibusters against main Democratic initiatives.

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It's NEW Math, Pahdnuh! (4.00 / 2)
Even though it formerly took more votes to break a filibuster, the Senate norms were such that it was rarely employed--particularly compared to nowadays.  And as a result those doing the filibuster were the ones bearing the onus of public opprobrium.  That's a huge difference from where we are today.

"You know what they say -- those of us who fail history... doomed to repeat it in summer school." -- Buffy The Vampire Slayer, Season 6, Episode 3

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Exactly! (0.00 / 0)
It all comes down to the filibuster.  What gnaws at me is everyone here knows that, then makes up tons of other reasons for all this.  Those other reasons, assuming they exist at all, are secondary.  

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